Discuss Isaiah 60

  • Chris - In Reply - 4 days ago
    Hello Michael. This is indeed a wonderful chapter that you've quoted from ( Isaiah 60) declaring the Glory of Israel in Christ's future Millenial Kingdom in Jerusalem ('the LORD's Glory & Light is risen upon Israel', v1). This is the promise found in Isaiah 60:15: "Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations."

    As we read through this chapter, we note that in the events leading up to that time & during that time, Israel will be gathered together, not just by their numbers, but because of spiritual enlightenment & turning to the LORD ( Isaiah 60:16, 18-22). And interestingly, the nations too will flow into that Holy Land ( Isaiah 60:3-14), and those who refuse, rejecting Israel will perish (v 12). And so the vision of verse 8 ("Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?") given to Isaiah, is where he sees the speed & intensity of those coming to the Mount of the Lord as a great cloud from the nations (cf Hebrews 12:1, 'a cloud of many witnesses with that true abiding faith'). He sees those of the nations rushing to her, even as a flock of doves do when suddenly stirred up & flee to the security of their sheltered windows (cotes) in the city walls. This period in the future gives us joy & hope for the many of Israel and the world living at that time, to come to their senses & turn to the Lord Jesus for their salvation, peace & security.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 8 months ago
    That's good, brother Bennymkje, may our Lord GOD bless us today and always, and give us His protection.

    You know, our conversation is in heaven( Ephesians 1:3-8); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself. By the way, The last ENEMY that shall be destroyed is death-1Co.15:26 combined with Luke 20:35-36. It is the Power, great mystery. Philippians 3:20-21 combined with Romans 8:18-19.

    As is written, look up, and lift up your heads; your redemption draweth nigh. Aleluia!

    Furthermore, the current time, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, it is of resurrection - Daniel 12:1-3 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 11:15-18 - and we which are alive and remain - We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be CHANGED(by the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD, self-executing), i.e. we shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air( Isaiah 60:8), i.e. to meet the Lord in the 3rd heaven, 3rd heavenly place in Christ( 2Corinthians 12:1-4), and so shall we ever be with the Lord. --> Would it be or will it be in the day 1335, the misterious biblical day, day 1335? 45 days after 1290 days? Daniel 12:12.

    Wherefore comfort one another with these words- 1 Thessalonians 4:18 combined with Daniel 12:2-11.

    Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing.

    May our Lord GOD bless us and keep us, and give us His protection, today and ever

    Amen
  • Oseas - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Very interesting.You know:2Ti.3:1-This know also,in the last days PERILOUS times shall come.Why? 2Timothy 2-5 give us extense list why perilous times. And Re.2:9&24-29 reveal:9I know thy works, tribulation and poverty(but thou art rich)and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not,but are synagogue of Satan. 24-But unto you I say, as many as have not this doctrine and have not known the depths of Satan,as they speak;I will put upon you none other burden.

    25That which ye have already hold fast till I come.

    26And he that overcomes,and keeps my works unto the end,to him will I give power over the nations:

    27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron;as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers:even as I received of my Father.

    28And I will give him the morning star.

    29He that hath an ear,let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    About Satan,the MAN of sin,son of perdition,the Word of GOD reveals:Is.14:13-14:

    13Thou hast said in thine heart:

    (1)I will ascend into heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8),I will exalt my throne above the stars of GOD(above GOD's stars?See Daniel 12:3, always be careful,perilous times now,also according Re.12:4.Take a look):

    (2)I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation,in the sides of the north:(Why Satan intends to sit in the sides of north?Ps.48:2 reveals why:Beautiful for situation,the joy of the whole earth,is mount Zion,on the sides of the north,the city of the great King-JESUS-

    14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;I will be like the most High(clouds? Revelation 12:14& Isaiah 60:8).Satan,a former Cherub, ruler of Eden,intends to be equal GOD.Ez.28:1-10 reveal:2Thus saith the Lord God;Thine heart is lifted up,and thou say,I am a God,I sit in the seat of GOD,in the midst of the seas(nations);thou art a MAN,not God,though thou set thine heart as God's heart:

    I will bring strangers,the terrible of the nations,against thee:they shall draw the Sword against the beauty of thy wisdom.
  • Oseas - 8 months ago
    Re.16:13-15

    13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the MOUTH of the dragon,and out of the MOUTH of the Beast(of sea), and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet.

    14For they are the spirits of devils,working miracles,which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,to gather them to the battle of that great Day(Lord's Day,the seventh)of God Almighty.

    15Behold,I come as a thief. (Get ready)

    Blessed is he that watcheth,and keepeth his garments,lest he walk naked,and they see his shame.

    Re.12:9-16

    9And the great dragon( Revelation 13:11)was cast out,that old serpent,called the Devil,and Satan,which deceiveth the whole world: he was(will be)cast out into the earth, and his messengers- 2Corinthians 11:13-15-were(will be)cast out with him.

    10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,NOW is come salvation,and strength,and the kingdom of our GOD,and the power of His Christ:for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,which accused them before our GOD day and night.

    11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,and by the Word of their testimony;and they loved not their lives unto the death.

    12Therefore rejoice,ye heavens( Philippians 3:20-21),and ye that dwell in them.Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!for the Devil is come down unto you,having great wrath,because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

    14And to the woman were given TWO WINGS of a great eagle,that she might FLY into the wilderness( Isaiah 60:8),into her place,where she is nourished(by the Word of GOD)for a time,and times,and half a time,from the face of the serpent.

    15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman,that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

    16And the earth helped the woman,and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 9 months ago
    Ronald Whittemore

    Paul prophesied:1Tessalonians 4:15

    15We say unto you by the Word of the Lord,that we which are alive and remain unto the COMING of the Lord shall not prevent (precede) them which are asleep.

    (Comment:Daniel prophesied:Dan.12:1

    - At that time(END of Time) shall Michael stand up to fight against the red Dragon,whose satanic religious body has 7 heads,10 horns and a TAIL- Revelation 12:9-12;

    - then there shall be a time of trouble (great tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time( Matthew 24:21);

    - and at that time(current time)thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book ( Revelation 7:1-14).

    Furthermore,in this current time or now,even now,from now on,the Devil shall be cast down into the bottomless pit(Re.20:1-3).

    Daniel 12:2-THERE WILL BE RESURRECTION SIMULTANEOUSLY

    And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake(according to the prophecy of Isaiah 26:19-21.Take a look), some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    Comment: So, there also shall be resurrection in fulfillment of prophecy of Isaiah combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16, as follow:

    16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout (shall descend from the 3rd heaven,we believers are still in the 2nd heaven-Ephesians1:3-8 combined with Philippians 3:20-21),with the voice of the archangel-MICHAEL- , and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    1 Thes. 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds( Isaiah 60:8, and 1Corinthians 15:51 combined with Philippians 3:20-21 and Revelation 5:8-14), to meet the Lord in the air(in the 3rd heavenly environment-3rd heaven-far above of the current second heaven- Luke 20:35-36 combined with Matthew 25:6): and so shall we ever be with the Lord.(Where?- Revelation 11:15-18 and Re. 5:10, and Matthew 5:5, and John 17:24. Take a look).

    That's for your meditation
  • Oseas - 9 months ago
    It is very important to know who comes first: Michael or JESUS?

    Daniel 12:2

    2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    Paul prophesied: 1Tess.4:15-17

    15 We say unto you by the Word of the Lord,that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven(from the 3rd heaven,we the believers are still in the 2nd heaven-Eph.1:3-8 combined with Phil.3:20-21)with a shout,with the voice of the archangel,and with the trump of GOD:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds( Isaiah 60:8, and 1Corinthians 15:51 combined with Phi.3:20-21 and Re.5:8-14), to meet the Lord in the air(in the 3rd heavenly environment-3rd heaven-far above the second heaven- Luke 20:35-36 combined with Mat.25:6): and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (Where?-Re.11:15-18 and 5:10, and Mat.5:5).

    Daniel 12:3

    3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. (The stars were made by our GOD since the beginning- Genesis 1:16-made with own light given by GOD for them to shine in heaven(Eph.1:3-8), but the Greater Light is JESUS, and the Lesser Light is the person of the Holy Spirit- John 15:26 and 16:12-15. Take a look).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi again Gigi.

    Thanks again for replying.

    The reason I periodically presents this is not to divide but to show that some of what we are saying is the same thing.

    For instance, There is no marked separation between the Old and New Testament as far as what and whom the blood of Christ covers.

    The difference is those sacrifices pointed forward to one who would come and be slain for the sins of the whole world.

    We look back at it.

    I often emphasize that if we set the salvation topic aside and let the scripture give us its chronological order of the end times scenario we all come up to the 7 year tribulation with the last half being the great tribulation. Most agree up to that point.

    But then they argue about the rapture.

    Well if we set the rapture argument aside for a second and focus on the tribulation period and what chronologically comes after it using Revelation 20:1-4. we come to the Millennium.

    Lets get clarity on what is going on here!

    After the tribulation period and after the rapture when the salvation issue has been already settled. Shouldn't we be expecting judgment on the inhabitants of the earth?

    If the kingdom here on earth has already started, chronologically the first 1000 years of the kingdom Satan is Chained!

    Jesus is literally sitting on David's throne ruling with a rod of iron FROM JERUSALEM, and we too rule and reign with Christ upon the earth.

    Isaiah 11:1-12.

    Isaiah 60:1-12.

    There is 100's of these verses of a kingdom here on earth.

    This haven't happened yet, Christ is not reigning here on earth in Jerusalem and we're not reigning with him. ( We are pilgrims and sojourners in a foreign land.)

    Furthermore, If this happened at the cross, none of the conditions mentioned in the OT concerning the kingdom has been met.

    And, the 1000 years have expired!

    When did Revelation 20:7-8 occur?

    Spiritualizing the scriptures is a must for those who hold certain views.

    But yet it doesn't solve these problems.

    More another day.

    GB.
  • Alex7 - 1 year ago
    2 Thess 2:3....The day of the lord cannot come till there 1st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed.....Jesus said it was gona be like this.....I am the light of the world but the Night comes when no man can work.....6.5 million Jews died in Hitlers death camps....That should tell ya something about the times we are in.....And Isaiah 60:2 said that darkness was gonna cover the earth and gross darkness the ppl.....No Salvation or the Kingdom till the man child (The H.G.) is born Rev 12:10.....Which is mankinds fruit unto God via his good seed the contents of that book in the fathers right hand that Jesus wrote with his own blood at Calvary.

    .......The last 2 k yrs have been nothing but wars and senseless killings.....The 2 days he was in the tomb is translating to 2 k yrs of Spiritual darkness for humanity......As Isaiah 60:2.....said darkness was gona cover the earth and gross darkness the ppl.....Churches and bibles on every corner but our world has become another Sodom and Gomarrah.

    ......I am the light of the world but the night is coming when no man can work.....Israel has become a nation again after 2 k yrs....Thus the Israel of God cannot be far behind.....When the book will be opened that he wrote with his own blood.....Sin will come to an end simply b/c the manchild which is the H.G.is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and JUDGEMENT.....The prince of this world that lives in humanity is gona be Judged.....As our God is a consuming fire.....

    .....But what happened to the early Church....They were a great Army.....But God gave them up....Till the woman is in travail and Child birth.... Micah 5 :3 Therefore shall he give them up till she that is in travail has given birth....The woman in Rev 12 :5 that is giving birth to the man child the H.G. that is gonna reprove the world of sin and righteousness and Judgement.....But Jesus said 4 times in John 6... I will raise them up AGAIN THE LAST DAY.....Ezek. dried bones...Gbu
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Christ: Real and imaginary

    I have spent some time in dissertation on the true Christ and man's attempt to immerse himself in Christian circles (or "churchianity") by attempting to fit in; ingratiating himself into a social network; and or live out some moralistic lifestyle that they think makes them accepted by God. As long as we are in the church age the Laodicean church exists; and we aren't quite in the final world religion "Mystery Babylon". Thus; there are still a few who still believe even in some of the worst churches; and those who are in the Philadelphian type church hold on albeit with "little strength" ( Rev. 3:8; either signifying few in numbers or little left in energy to exist in the hostile last days type world with many falling away).

    Another problem which in various manifestations affects many denominations today is erring in not taking scriptures LITERALLY.

    There are a few verses such as Isaiah 60:16 that are clearly not literal. The issue quite often is trying to fit the whole Bible into a particular framework so as not to violate a doctrine that we uphold. This can be related to eschatology with those who want to insert the church into every promise and covenant made with Israel and supposedly invalid today; or with those who in liberal churches want to assimilate into the lifestyles that are popular to suit their worldly passions.

    The Word of God is not something we can cherry pick to select what we want to hear; God is a God of love but also wrath. These practices basically attempt to put God in a box; or make Him more palatable. It seems we want God to be like our cable TV or other entertainment where we control the narrative and choose the storyline. Galatians 6:7 shows clearly that we reap what we sow and cannot mock God. Things that are unclear in their final fulfillment will be seen to be literally fulfilled. Perhaps some prophecy can be tabled; as to lifestyles; once in judgment it is too late a lesson learned.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 97:1 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 97

    Verse 1 indicates the "multitude of isles" being glad when the Lord reigns. This term has been said to refer to the Gentile nations or the outermost parts of the world. Ezekiel 39:6 and Isaiah 41:5 seem to refer to these parts of the world during the Tribulation with Isaiah 24:15 giving a prophetic indication that even in the fires God will be glorified.

    Verse 2 on clouds and darkness are similar to Solomon's description of God in 1 Kings 8:12 similar to other passages.

    Verse 3 through 5 show the affects on the earth of His coming. We are reminded of 2 Thessalonians 2:8 as well as the battle of Armageddon.

    Verse 4 reminds us of Matthew 24:27 when the Son of Man comes as to His appearing.

    Verse 5 shows us similar references to Psalm 68:2 among other places.

    Verse 6 shows as things are now; God's presence evident to all as we see indicated in Romans 1 and Psalm 19. Man will see His glory when He comes to rule in the Millennium.

    Verse 7 shows that finally idol worship will end when Christ comes back. People will eventually cast forth their idols of gold and silver during the Tribulation judgments as Isaiah 2:20. Perhaps some of that sadly will occur because Satan himself will demand worship and that will eliminate worship of any false gods but also the true God with the mark of the beast sealing people's fate.

    Verse 8 shows how Judah and the remaining nation of Israel will rejoice; which will happen when He is returning as Zechariah 12:10 indicates. Verse 9 shows the majesty of God unparalleled.

    Verse 10 shows how saints are delivered; either from or through disaster.

    Verse 11 reminds us of His light and no longer a need for the sun and moon from Revelation 21:23 but also found in Isaiah 60:19.

    Finally the last verse talks about rejoicing of the righteous and thanks at remembrance of His holiness. Good sentiment for all times or dispensations and the age to come.
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen, Amen Nacol1900:

    We are the exactness of Christ, and the kingdom is VERY PHYSICAL; just not the physical that the eye of flesh can see.

    We are still with CHILD until we depart this body (the RAPTURE, gathered one by one).

    Then we PUT ON CHRIST; not only immortal LIFE, but also an omnipresent BODY.

    Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the new creation) DIED ANYMORE: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS (omnipresent); and are the CHILDren of GOD, being the CHILDren of the Resurrection.

    THE MAN Jesus Christ ....is the BODY of the of the HOLY GHOST ...... OMNIPRESENT ....He is THE ANGEL .... we don't give up our body, we just exchange the MORTAL for the IMMORTAL (the RAPTURE).

    Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY ...... ONE SPIRIT .....

    John 17:22 And the glory that thou GAVEST ME, I have GIVEN to THEM (the new CHILD), that they may be ONE even as we are ONE.

    John 1:51 ....hereafter (the resurrection) you shall see (not with the physical eye) heaven open (the BODY of man) and the angels ascending and descending of the Son of man (the new creation)---- CHRIST IN YOU ----

    Isaiah 60:22 And a little one (Christ) shall BECOME a THOUSAND, a small one (Christ) a STRONG NATION (Israel).

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    David:

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a CHILD is BORN, a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulders .....

    Isaiah 60:22 And a LITTLE ONE shall become a thousand (by the operation of God through Christ's death and resurrection ..... Colossians 2:12

    Revelation 12:5 and she brought forth a man child, who was to RULE ALL NATIONS, with a rod of IRON ...

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh (lies and deception), and keepeth MY WORKS (the WORK'S of the CROSS), to him will I give power over the nations:

    Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron ....even as I received of my Father.

    Romans ...God did predestinate (a priesthood) to be conformed to the IMAGE of his SON ...

    God Bless YOU!
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 72 - 2 years ago
    Psalm 72.

    There is some debate as to whether the authorship should be stated as "of" Solomon or to him.

    The beginning of the Psalm (first four verses) are descriptive of the earth with God's judgments for the people; focusing on the poor and needy; and how it is throughout the earth.

    Verse 5 shows how at least through the Millennium reign the sun and moon endure. Isaiah 60 seems to suggest in verse 20 that it may last forever; whether the need of the sun and moon to see God in heaven is necessary or it doesn't exist in the new earth and heaven is conjecture beyond the scope of this study. ( Rev. 21:23).

    Verse 8 shows His dominion throughout the earth in the Millennium and verse 10 repeats how the wealth of the nations will go to Him when they worship in Jerusalem every year. ( Zech. 14:16; Rev. 21:26; Isaiah 60:3.

    Verse 15 to me is somewhat mysterious that prayer would be made FOR Christ when He returns. Could this mean entreating God for Him to receive greater earthly wealth; or something to that effect?

    Verse 17 once again discusses His name continuing as long as the sun; again it seems that perhaps with a new heaven and earth the sun will last forever too.

    It would seem at the end that David did write this (I should have read that in the beginning).

    At any rate; once again we see future blessings for God's people and the nation of Israel once the fullness of its Covenant promises are realized; and they finally recognize their Messiah.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on Isaiah 60 - 2 years ago
    Alex1939...Alexis M...May i give ya my view of Isaiah 60:22...A lil one shall become a 1000 and small one a strong nation...I the lord will hasten it in its time...This is the multiplication of Christ Jesus via his seed the word sown in humanity...The Sower and his seed...The Children of Promise...An Israel of God is that strong nation... Gal 6:16...There has to be an Israel of God via the seed of Jesus...I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven... Gen 22:16...Which are spirits the H.G many ...The Children of Promise that are gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitudes...Thats y he has to know us...That he might sow his incorruptible seed in our hearts...That Christ might be formed in us...Its gonna start with a lil one...one lil one is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Just as Jesus was just a lil one but he was multiplied and became as the stars of heaven... a number no man cd number John saw,simply b/c of his seed the words of the book that he wrote with his own blood...That New Covenant...I will know them all from the least to the greatest...This (Know them all is an intimacy) that is gona result in a birth of Christ in everybody...Isaiah speaks of a knowledge ( an intimacy ) that is gona cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...In Isaiah 11:9...Thats y he has to know us...Thats y the Woman is giving birth...And that y we must be bornagain of his incorruptible seed...Thus Christ will truly be multiplied as the stars of heaven in humanity....They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin....He has a seed to sow in humanity...Thus our new heart and new spirit..Thus the babes and sucklings...The Israel of God...ok lemme go...Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains...a time of Jacobs trouble that heavenly Jacob the H.G... Jeremiah 30:6 ..
  • Alexis M Kahale on Isaiah 60 - 2 years ago
    This in my personal view on Isaiah Chapter 60 verse 22 means a little one shall become big or famous a thousand times and this can be possible if we have hope in the Lord our Saviour. With him everything is possible.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    alex1939...Michelle good Question... John 3 :16 God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on him will not perish but have eternal life.

    .....1 st Peter 1:23...Being Born again of an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED even by the WORDS of God that liveth and abideth for ever.

    ......Nicodemus was teaching that the works of the law wd bring righteousness....But Jesus was teaching that we wd needed to birth a New Heart and a New Spirit...A new innerman...Mankind needs someone Heavenly to guide him...Christ in us..The H.G.

    .....Which is the Child of Promise...The woman in Rev. 12:10 is giving birth to the Child of the Kingdom...Now is come salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ...Remember smite the shepard then i will turn my hand to the little ones...The babes and sucklings that are able to praise God with a perfect praise...Our new hearts and new spirits...

    .....What Jesus did at Calvary by the shedding of his blood is gonna result in a New Covenant...And a Kingdom is in this Child.

    .....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...Which is the result of the heavenly Birth... Isaiah 60:22 kjv...A lil one is gona become a 1000 and a small one a strong nation...I THE LORD WILL HASTEN IT IN ITS TIME...Which is that which is born of the spirit the H.G...An Israel of God...Which is Christ/the H.G. born in us.

    .....Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man....Mankind is gonna have a spritual baby which is the H.G...That HEAVENLY BIRTH...Thats y Hebrews 11:1 describes faith as a spritual pregnancy...The substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.. is a beautiful picture of a spiritual pregnancy the Child is the H.G...the gift of God...By the seed of the bridegroom...ok lemme go...
  • Marilyn Mitchell on Isaiah 60 - 2 years ago
    Isaiah chapter 60

    Verse 12

    The United States should take heed to this verse

    For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish ,yea those nations ,shall be utterly wasted

    Our country seems to have forgotten the ruler if the universe, our one true Heavenly Father .
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Kimberly Jesus spoke of a time coming when no man cd work....When he said i am the light of the world but the NIGHT cometh when no man cd work....And Isaiah also mentions this spiritual darkness coming that wd cover the the earth... Isaiah 60:2....Darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness the ppl.....This abomination of desolation began with the great falling away of the early Church.... Micah 5:3 said he was gonna give them up...till the woman goes into birth pains....The last 2 k yrs have been nothing but wars and rumors of wars...and senseless killings around the world....6.5 million Jews died in Hitlers death camps....All the churches have been DESOLATE even the big mega Churches are beyond desolation....No amount of prayer cd stop the horrors that has been going on in this world and the CHURCHES THE LAST 2 K YRS....Joel saw it and said how does the priest and the Ministers do mourn for the new wine ( the new covenant ) that has been cut off....B/C joy is withered away from the sons of man....Joel saw this great falling away.....But Joel said the time is coming when God was gonna pour out his spirit on all flesh in Joel 2 :28 kjv....Satan is now in the pulpits....Standing in the Holy Places....Our Ministers and pastors and Evangelists are now in love with dollars....And materialistic things....and the honor that comes from man....And I also am the chiefest of sinners ....Lord have mercy on me a sinner...But God has given me sight beyond sight...GBU KIM
  • PROPHECY - 2 years ago
    REVELATION 12: WHO IS THE WOMAN?

    The WOMAN is all flesh and blood, Christ's bride.

    Jeremiah 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a MAN doth travail with a CHILD? wherefore I see EVERY MAN with his hands on his loins, as A WOMAN in travail, and all faces are turned to paleness.

    Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I TRAVAIL IN BIRTH again, until CHRIST BE FORMED IN YOU (the Holy Ghost, GOD).

    1 Timothy 2:14 .... but the WOMAN (all flesh and blood) being DECEIVED was in the transgression.

    1 Timothy 2:15 ....the WOMAN shall be SAVED in CHILDBEARING ....a man child (CHRIST FORMED IN YOU) ...

    Revelation 12:1 ... a WOMAN (all flesh and blood, in the AGES TO COME) clothed with GOD, and the CHRIST under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars (angels, ministering spirits) upon her head.

    Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME .....

    WHO IS THE MAN CHILD?

    Revelation 12:5 And the WOMAN brought forth a man child, that was to RULE ALL NATIONS with a rod of iron ... Psalms 2:8-9 .... Psalms 149:9

    Revelation 2:27 And he (the MAN CHILD that overcomes DECEPTION) shall rule them with a rod of iron .....even as I received of MY FATHER.

    Isaiah 60:22 A little one (Christ) shall become A THOUSAND, and a small one (Christ) a strong nation (TRUE ISRAEL) ....

    Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and it shall prosper in the things whereto I SENT IT.

    Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME ....all will be FULFILLED: GOD will be ALL in ALL .... 1 Corinthians 15:28.

    God Bless ALL.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    God doesn't need possessions as we understand it, 'having or owning things' that are necessary for our survival or happiness. In Psalm 50:10, God says: "For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills." God owns all things He has created, even the special called-out people (first Israel, then those who've come to faith in Christ) & also that special city Jerusalem (Zion). Psalm 87:2-3 says, "The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God." According to this verse, Zion is synonymous with City of God, and it is a place that God loves. Zion is Jerusalem.



    Zion is first mentioned in 2 Samuel 5:7. Zion was originally an ancient Jebusite fortress in the city of Jerusalem. After David's conquest of the fortress, Jerusalem became a possession of Israel. The royal palace was built there, and Zion/Jerusalem became the seat of power in Israel's kingdom. When Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the meaning of Zion included the temple area ( Psalm 2:6; Psalm 48:2,11,12; Psalm 132:13). Therefore, the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:6, "Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God."

    Zion is also used in a spiritual sense in Scripture. In the Old Testament, Zion refers figuratively to Israel as the people of God ( Isaiah 60:14). In the New Testament, Zion refers to God's spiritual kingdom: Hebrews 12:22. Peter, quoting Isaiah 28:16, refers to Christ as the Cornerstone of Zion ( 1 Peter 2:6).

    Mount Zion, as a geographical area, is now the focus of much dispute (mainly between Jews & Muslims). The Bible is clear that one day Zion will be the sole possession of the Lord Jesus, and Zion, both the nation and the city, will be restored. ( Isaiah 52:1; Isaiah 60:14). When Jesus returns to Earth, His rule will be from Jerusalem ( Zechariah 14:1-4; Luke 1:32,33). I hope you can see why Zion is so important & especially significant in God's Eyes as a special City of God (on Earth).
  • Linda - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 2 years ago
    Yes! You are Correct.

    The 7th Trumpet Will Sound First.

    Then The Dead In Christ Shall Rise (Come Out Of) Their Graves.

    And They (The Risen Dead) Shall Appear Unto Many Of Us. Matt.27:53

    Then: We which Are Alive And Remain (On The Earth):

    Shall Be Caught Up (In Excitment) Together With Them In The Clouds.

    In The Clouds? Ezek.3816 / Hebrew.12:1 / Isaiah 60:8

    Who Are These that Fly As A Cloud To Their Windows?

    God Likens People To Clouds.

    So: We (Clouds) Shall Be Caught Up (In Excitement) Together With Those

    (Clouds) Who Have Risen Out Of Their Graves And Walk Among Us.

    And We Will All Meet The Lord In The Air.

    In The Air? (In The Air Waves) In Cyber Space.

    Back To Isaiah 60:8 Who Are These That Fly As A Cloud To Their Windows?

    Their Windows?

    Their Computer Screens: Windows 9 / Windows 10 / Windows 11

    Who Are They That Fly (Rush / Hurry) To Their Windows?

    They Are God's Children Who Are Eagerly Waiting For Their Lord's Return To Earth.

    Jesus is Going To Come Back "To" The Earth. He Is "Not Going To Hover" In The Heavens "And Wait" For All Of His Children To Fly Up To Where He Is.

    And So (In This Way) Shall We Ever Be With The Lord.

    In This Way? (Via Internet) Every Eye Shall See Him.

    Re: Rapture? Nothing But Wishful Imaginations.

    It Is Written in Hebrews 9:27

    It Is Appointed Unto Men (People) Once To Die;

    But After This The Judgement.

    No-One Can Escape Their God-Given Appointment With Death.

    Matt.24:13 / Mark 13:13

    Ye Shall Be Hated Of All Men For My Name's Sake:

    But He That Shall Endure (Persecution) Unto The End (Unto Death),

    The Same Shall Be Saved.

    Rev.6:11 White Robes were Given Unto Every One Of Them; And It was Said Unto Them, That They Should Rest Yet For A Little Season,

    Until Their Fellowservants Also And Their Brethren, That Should Be Killed As They Were, Should Be Fulfilled.

    2 Thess.2:3 Let No Man Deceive you By Any Means:

    For That Day Shall Not Come, Except There Be A Falling Away First.
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen, Brother Alex!

    Isaiah 60:22 A little one (child) shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the Lord will hasten it in his time.

    GBU
  • T Levis - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 6:23, Job 10:22, 1John 2:11, Exodus 10:21, Isaiah 8:22, Jeremiah 13:16,

    John 1:5 also prophetic of Isaiah 60:2, if crucifixion isn't dark, I don't know what time is. Ephesians 5:11,

    Isaiah 5:20, John 12:46,

    Isaiah 6:8-10, Mark 4:12, also prophecy, fulfilled

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey SolaScrip,

    Is there scripture outside Revelation that confirms an exact 1000 years? The answer is no. Are there false teachers out there? The answer is yes, there are many, 1 John 4:1. Are there scriptures that say the Son of God will reign on earth? The answer is yes. Psalm 2:6-9 Psalm 22:27-31 Isaiah 2:1-4 Isaiah 9:6-7 Isaiah 24:21-23 Jeremiah 23:5 Ezekiel 20:33-44 Ezekiel 39:21-29 Zechariah 2:10-13 Zechariah 8:2-3 Zechariah 14:1-9 Matthew 19:28 Revelation 11:15 Revelation 20:4 and more.

    Is there any scripture that says people will go to or reign in heaven? The answer is no. Are there scriptures that say the elect will reign with Jesus on earth? The answer is yes. Daniel 7:27 2 Timothy 2:11-13 Revelation 5:10. Are there scriptures that describe how things change after Jesus returns? The answer is yes. Zechariah 8:4 Isaiah 11 Isaiah 60:15 Isaiah 65:18-25. These people will be alive on the second coming of Jesus, they will have the opportunity to live longer if they choose to obey God.

    Are there things that have not been revealed to us? The answer is, yes? Jesus will return and set up the kingdom here on earth and He will put all enemies under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:25. Will death still be during the time Jesus is ruling? The answer is yes. The purpose is to fulfill the rest of the scriptures with Jesus, Israel, the Gentiles, and creation that has not yet been fulfilled.

    The only scripture that gives us 1000 years is Revelation, but many scriptures tell us the kingdom will be set up on earth. We have these, Numbers 14:21 Psalms 115:16 Micah 4:1-3 Matthew 5:5 Matthew 6:10. Not to debate, with the time it will take I cannot say the 1000 years are false.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sorry Yvonne Mathis, I have been having some trouble recently with Internet server or something. I tried to respond with scripture.

    (will we know people? In Heaven) John 10:14, John 15:15, Acts 15:18, 2 Corinthians 3:2, 2 Corinthians 6:7-10,

    1 Corinthians 13:12, Isaiah 40:11, Isaiah 60:4, Isaiah 66:18, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, Ephesians 1:10, Luke 16:19-31,

    Hopefully these are encouraging & helpful in answering your questions in this.
  • Dewey tribbett - 3 years ago
    I am leading discussion on Isaiah 60: 1-6
  • GiGi - In Reply on Isaiah 60 - 3 years ago
    Hi there, I recently studied up on what is meant by these trees. This is speaking of Asherah poles or trees, that were set up next to an altar of Baal. They could be living or cut, but often carved in an image of Asherah (Ishtar, Isis are some equivalents.) These were often erected among groves of trees on top of a hill used as a sanctuary for pagan worship to these idols. People also planted trees next to the altars of Baal either to create a grove or to have trees to use as Asherah poles. It is likely that they adorned these poles with silver and gold ornamentation to honor these idols.

    Such practices using trees were common among the Druids and Germanic tribes who were pagan. This does not mean that a Christmas tree automatically is an Asherah pole or an evergreen idol worshipped by the Druids/Germanic pagans.

    I think that each person needs to search their hearts about what the Christmas tree represents to them, since it seems the origin of their use is in paganism. But, with prayer, God will let someone know if it is proper to have one to commemorate the advent of Jesus our Lord. The Israelites erected altars to worship God and remembrance stones/pillars to be a reminder of what God has done for them which is similar to what the pagans did. So, there is biblical reference for God's people having symbols to remind them of God's work and Person, as long as one does not worship the symbol instead of God or have the symbol represent God, Himself. It is a fine line to walk. I don't really have a definitive answer. Perhaps going a year without a tree may help someone discern if it is a practice that is needed for them or, changing the way it is viewed, perhaps simply as decor that bring cheer to the heart in the dark winter days. In any way, we do need to be aware of what unbelievers will think or say about how we apply such customs in our lives,, because they are a witness for good or not.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Isaiah 60 - 3 years ago
    Christmas trees will be priced way high due to all the forest fires this year. You could buy a fine slab of barbecue instead.

    I have a large manger inside my home which I love. It looks like a cave with moss leaves and straw. figures, lots of animals; even the little drummer boy.
  • Rick - In Reply on Isaiah 60 - 3 years ago
    Hi Larry The simple answer to this is purpose, if it is gotten because decorative and enjoyed for there smell and

    its a blessing to the individual and its a reminder of what God gave us in the celebration of his Sons birth ok. If it

    it is adored and worshipped then its gets elevated to idolatry which is anything that influences the mind above Gods Word

    because that's our primary focus daily to love God. Second one not Good Romans 14 whole chapter
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Isaiah 60 - 3 years ago
    Jeremiah 10:1-4, Deuteronomy 16:21-22, Jeremiah 10:1-21,

    Hopefully these help you further in your study & willingness to seek truth & GOD's will.


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