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  • Lanya on Isaiah 44:22 - 11 years ago
    Its wonderful
  • Arap Cherangan on Isaiah 44:3 - 11 years ago
    This is an inspirational chapter.
  • John on Isaiah 44:8 - 12 years ago
    Powerful! God has let us know, there is no other.
  • Gloyd on Genesis 1 - 12 years ago
    When reading this chapter I would go read other accounts of the beginning. Isaiah 44:18 Job 38 and proverbs 8:22 to 31. Also the first flood Jeremaih 4 about half way to the end of the chapter. We were all here in our spirit bodies. Same form, different puddy. God is a consuming fire, Hebrews 12.
  • Jacques on Matthew 28 - 12 years ago
    Let us look again at what Jesus says.

    Verse 18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    19: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    Jesus says, "ALL POWER is given unto ME in heaven and in earth. In verse 19 He says "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the NAME" . *Not names* ..

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a CHILD is born, unto us a SON is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The MIGHTY GOD, The EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.

    Jesus says in Revelation 1:8

    8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY.

    Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the FIRST, and I am the LAST; AND BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD.

    Jesus says in Revelation 1:11

    1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the FIRST and the LAST:

    1 Timothy 3:16
    3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

    Jesus says in Luke 24:47 And that REPENTANCE and REMISSION OF SINS should be preached in HIS NAME AMONG ALL NATIONS, beginning at Jerusalem.

    48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

    49 And, behold, I SEND THE PROMISE OF MY FATHER UPON YOU: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

    As we go into the book of Acts we find almost immediately the promise being fulfilled. And let me clear this scripture up.

    Ephesians 4:5 ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism,

    6 ONE God and Father of ALL,

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    John 1:14 And the Word was made FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is PREFERRED BEFORE ME: for HE WAS BEFORE ME.

    Now back to Acts 1:5

    Jesus says in Vs. 5 : For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost NOT MANY DAYS HENCE.

    Acts 2:1 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

    2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

    3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

    4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    Read the rest of chapter 2 and how men mocked and said " these men are full of new whine" but Peter stood up with the eleven.

    Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

    14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

    After you read through to vs 37 says the men were pricked in there hearts and asked what shall they do?!

    Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

    Peter tells them what Jesus told him to preach unto ALL nations.

    Luke 24:47 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in HIS NAME among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the NAME of JESUS Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
  • Jacque on Isaiah 9 - 12 years ago
    That's right Jeff! Revelation 1:8 says - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the *Almighty*. Jesus spake this.

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -v,14- And *the Word was made flesh*, and dwelt among us*, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    Whoever you are ~ 123 ~ let me give you some knowledge. John 3:16 says For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *SHOULD* not perish, but have everlasting life.

    It does NOT say that you SHALL be saved! I bought an ozarka water the other day and it said on the back of it, " this item SHOULD not be sold individually." well i bought it by its self. So, maybe it wasn't meant to be sold individually but it was. Same goes with the scripture. Yeah if you believe that Jesus is god and you believe this,

    Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, -6- One God and Father of all,

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we MUST be saved.

    If you think there is three gods you are sorely mistaken. There's not two nor five. Only ONE !

    Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
    Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
    1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
  • Jacque on Acts 2 - 12 years ago
    Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism.
    I'll give scriptures to show the Oneness of God.
    Isaiah 9:6 - Revelation 1:8 ( Jesus spake this ) Isaiah 44:6 - Isaiah 44:8. Isaiah 42:8 - 1 Corinthians 2:8 .. And to end this with no argument whatsoever .. John 1:1 - John 1:14 - * 1 Timothy 3:16 * - The only way of receiving Salvation is through Acts 2:38 !! Jesus Is GOD !
  • Bane on Isaiah 44 - 12 years ago
    "Interpretation of prophesy is necessarily mystical and miraculous by its very nature. The boundaries of time and eternity were broken in the moment when the Almighty told us the future before it was lived.. As an example in Isaiah one of these startling moments is the naming of Cyrus as the one who would rebuild the temple. The precognitive details are given not only before Cyrus lived but before the nation was taken captive and the temple destroyed by the Babylonians. Thus, peering into prophecy is like peering into the transcendental moment. When success is the companion of the one seeking for truth to be revealed that is not readily available on the surface it is a semi-mystical experience. However, the interpreter of prophecy is not like those who follow the Khabbalah. The student of Khabbalah looks for special revelation in hidden meanings under the words themselves. Khabbalah as a system discards the natural meaning, and a different mysticism, which is more akin to spiritism, with specters and ghostly apparitions is a possible accoutrement to the discovery of the second and, to him, more important, Khabbalah, or "hidden meaning." I reject the concept of hidden meaning in the sense of Khabbalah. The true interpreter of prophecy seeks, in the visions, a transportation beyond the natural ordinary experiences. But he seeks by natural and ordinary means of studying the literal meaning of written prophetic words that were written in a precognitive time frame. He then goes on to discover their fulfillment in historical time. The experience of connecting the precognitive and the historical is mystical and can leave one with the feeling of having touched eternity."
    The words in the quotation marks are the words of a man who did a great thing in Bible study, much more than an ordinary man can achieve, including me. He is present on the net and I got lots of help when I was stucked down.
    Mentioning Cyrus is in the Is 44:28
    "That saith of Cyrus, [He is] my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid."
    Chapters 40-55 are DeuteroIsaiah and are definitly not written by Isaiah himself, so we do not know if the author of chapter 44 was alive when Cyrus helped Jews to rebuild the temple. This boders me because I conflict the man who knows much more than I do, but this about DeuteroIsaiah is a definite thing.
    Reading the Holy Bible is hard work, whole life work but blessed is the one who does it.
  • Converted by the Second Witness on Revelation 11 - 14 years ago
    Please read and understand the mystery of the Two Witnesses as the time is short. The two witnesses in the latter-days (our days) are typified by many characters in Old Testament scripture which are summarized in the book of Revelation:

    Malachi 4:5: Behold, I will send you ELIJAH {first latter-day messenger} the prophet before the coming of the GREAT {awesome} and DREADFUL DAY {comet�s impact see Daniel 2: 34; Revelation 8:10, 11; 9: 1} of the LORD:

    In the past type, Elijah was the first witness of his generation until the manifestation of Elisha, the second witness. Elisha asked and received a double portion of Elijah�s spirit in 2 Kings 2:9.

    2 Kings 2:9 �Ask what I {Elijah} shall do for THEE {Elisha}, before I be taken away from thee. And ELISHA {typifying the Second Witness} said, I pray thee, let a DOUBLE PORTION of thy spirit be upon me.

    Since Elisha received a double portion of Elijah�s spirit, it reveals how the latter-day second witness fulfills his ministry, according to the scroll of life�s first side, as well as the prophecies that latter-day Elijah should have fulfilled. This is the reason Elisha received Elijah�s mantle, as recorded in 2 Kings 2:13.

    2 Kings 2:13 He {Elisha} took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him�.

    {Latter-day Elisha) grew out of latter-day Elijah�s church. This parallels the past type, when Solomon was as a tree�s branch that came out of the loins (rod/trunk of a tree) of David to be king in Israel (see Isaiah 11:1).

    Isaiah 11:1: And there SHALL {latter-day prophecy} come forth a ROD {latter-day David} out of the stem of JESSE {typified by the father of old David}, and a BRANCH {latter-day Solomon} shall grow out of HIS {latter-day David�s/rod�s} roots:

    The prophetic statement in Isaiah 11:1 is also confirmed in Revelation 5:5.

    Revelation 5:5: And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the LION {originally referred to latter-day King David but is actually fulfilled by latter-day King Solomon} of the tribe of {spiritual} JUDA {typifying the U.S.A.}, the ROOT {loins} of {latter-day} DAVID, hath prevailed to open the BOOK {scroll of life}, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

    In the past type, God � personifying a scroll�s record of that generation � sent the Assyrian (see Isaiah 10:5, 6) against the hypocritical nation of Israel�s ten tribes. After the Assyrian had taken the ten tribes of Israel�s northern kingdom into captivity, the Egyptians then overthrew the Assyrian empire. This spared the kingdom of Judah and Jerusalem in the south of Palestine from the same fate that befell the ten tribes, who were deported from the north of Palestine. However, God warned the kingdom of Judah in Palestine not to rejoice over the fall of Assyria, because the Babylonian will be coming to rule over Palestine, as illustrated in Isaiah 14:29.

    Isaiah 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of HIM {the Assyrian who typifies latter-day Elijah} that smote THEE {land of old Israel/Palestine, which typifies latter-day Christendom/latter-day spiritual Israel} is BROKEN {by old Egypt, which typifies the latter-day fifth reigning kingdom}: for out of the SERPENT�S ROOT {the Assyrian who typifies latter-day David} shall come forth a COCKATRICE {representing Nebuchadnezzar�s Babylon, which typifies latter-day Solomon�s/Chosen Vessel�s ministry}, and his FRUIT {representing Nebuchadnezzar�s armies, which typify the believers of this new doctrine and then the great multitude} shall be a FIERY FLYING SERPENT {personifying coals of fire that follow the comet/cockatrice}.

    The city of Nebuchadnezzar�s Babylon did not exist until the Assyrians built it, as stated in Isaiah 23:13.

    Isaiah 23:13: Behold the land of the CHALDEANS {Babylonians}; this people was not, till the ASSYRIAN {serpent�s root} founded IT {cockatrice/old Babylon} for them that dwell in the wilderness: THEY {Assyrians} set up the towers thereof, they raised up the palaces thereof; and he {Assyrian} brought it to ruin (before the people who became the Babylonians rebuilt it).

    As the Babylonian came out of the Assyrian and Solomon came out of David, so the Chosen Vessel (latter-day Solomon) came out of latter-day David�s church in Waco, Texas. This is likened to Yahshua being baptized in John the Baptist�s ministry. The Chosen Vessel is the branch that came forth from the rod (Latter-day David). Just as Solomon built the temple instead of David, so the branch (second witness/latter-day Zerubbabel/Solomon) will build the spiritual temple before the comet hits the land (see Zechariah 6:12).

    Zechariah 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the MAN {latter-day Solomon} whose name is The BRANCH {that bears fruit, see Ezekiel 7:10}; and HE {Chosen Vessel} shall GROW UP {from the rod/latter-day David} out of his place, and he shall build the temple {as Moses, Solomon, and Darius built the temple} of the LORD {Hayah Havah}:

    Latter-day Elijah gathered followers, a number of whom now believe latter-day Elisha�s doctrine. Also, before latter-day Elijah was killed on April 19, 1993, God caused the scenario to take place at Mount Carmel in Waco, Texas, so latter-day
    Elisha�s ministry would be easier to promote. Accordingly, the ministry of latter-day Elijah has prepared the way for latter-day Elisha, as prophesied in Isaiah 40:3.

    Isaiah 40:3 The voice of HIM {latter-day Elijah} that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare YE {referring to the tribes of Christendom} the way of the LORD {Hayah Havah manifesting as the Chosen Vessel}, make straight in the desert a highway for our God (manifesting as latter-day Moses).

    The first messenger (Elijah-type) in our day is also typified by the prophecy that seemed to refer to the new king, Eliakim, in Isaiah 22:22.

    Isaiah 22:22 And the KEY {to the kingdom} of the house of David will I lay upon HIS {Eliakim�s/Cyrus�} shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.

    This prophecy concerning Eliakim is referring to the same Cyrus who is mentioned in Isaiah 44:28. Since King Cyrus� decree failed to rebuild Jerusalem and her temple, it reveals how the first latter-day messenger (Elijah-type) fails to construct the latter-day spiritual temple. Therefore, as Moses, Solomon, and Darius built the temple of God instead of Aaron, David, and Cyrus, it reveals how the second latter-day messenger (Elisha-type) receives the key of knowledge to fulfill all unfulfilled prophecies (see Revelation 3:7).

    Revelation 3:7 �These things saith he that is HOLY {scroll of life�s record}, he that is TRUE {scroll of life�s record pertaining to the Chosen Vessel/second messenger}, HE {Chosen Vessel} THAT HATH THE KEY {to unlock all mysteries in God�s word, see Revelation 10:7} OF {latter-day} DAVID {latter-day Eliakim/Elijah}, HE {latter-day Solomon} that OPENETH {the scroll of life with the key of knowledge, see Revelation 5:5, 6}, AND NO MAN SHUTTETH {with their wrongly-fitting key of error}; AND SHUTTETH {when latter-day Solomon does not reveal/open God�s mysteries with his key of knowledge}, AND NO MAN OPENETH {with his or her key that does not fit the figurative lock of written prophecy};

    According to the song (testimony) of old Moses, he brought out the Israelites from Egypt, constructed the temple, fed the people, gave them laws, and led them to the Promised Land, (see Deuteronomy 32:2).

    Deuteronomy 32:2 My {Moses�} doctrine shall drop as the rain {to ripen the spiritual barley, wheat, and fruits}, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:�

    Today, the new doctrine of latter-day Moses is sung from the scroll of life�s first side. The people who accept latter-day Moses� song (doctrine) are also able to sing the song pertaining to latter-day Moses, as prophesied in Revelation 15:3.

    Revelation 15:3 And THEY {first and second latter-day groups of redeemed} sing the SONG {new doctrine} of MOSES {latter-day Moses, see Deuteronomy 31:30} the servant of GOD {seventh angel}, and the song of the LAMB {sunlight-ministry of latter-day Yahshua/Lamb who manifested according to the prophecy in Acts 1:11}, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, THOU {latter-day Chosen Vessel/Elisha/Yahshua} King of {the three latter-day groups of} saints.

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