Dear BILL WHITTINGHILL, in peace, yes it was a mistake, if u read further u will find that God Himself regret that He made human.
Genesis 6:6 And today we are the chosen one too set thing in order. Example 1 Peter 2:6John 14:6 Make ppl see Jesus Christ only in Him thru The Holy Goust can we see God. Many see a different God today, but are driven away, becouse of the eval who is in them and the eval in the spiritual world, who every one not see. Ephesians 6:12-19 W e all need to come thru in Jesus.
I know nice ppl who have going too church for 40 years and they have the holy spirit in one way, but are bounded in television and work. I belive that God have a place for them. What i try to tell is: Not everybody sees the Spirit of the Holy. And remember we have all different work in the Lord. 1 Corintihans 12 And in that the eval can grow if they dont stop it by a gift they have. A friend may se it and pray to stop it.
Galatians 6:2
Thats why Paul continue to tell us, dont give up! We must be standfast in the Word of God and dont complane. And Love Jesus and all ppl, and rases.
Dinosaurs existed before the flood and to a lesser extent after the flood. The record found in fossils indicates that the present planetary ecosystem is incapable of producing and supporting large bodied reptiles and mammals.
Apparently, before Noah's flood destroyed the antediluvian ecosystem, the earth could produce large bodied long living reptiles that we call dinosaurs (a word which means a fearful or monstrous lizard). The word of God states that not only did all humans, except eight, were destroyed by the flood, but also the earth itself was wrecked ( Genesis 6:13).
The first possible mention of dinosaurs in the Bible is in Job 40. God, speaking directly to the patriarch Job, challenges him regarding a mysterious beast known as the Behemoth.Now behold the behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox; See, now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the muscles of his belly.He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are like tubes of bronze; his ribs are like bars of iron. ( Job 40:15 - 18, HBFV, see also verses 19 to 24)
The second possible reference to huge, now extinct dinosaurs is in Job 41. God, again speaking directly to Job, challenges him regarding his ability to catch or tame a creature referred to as Leviathan.Can you draw out the leviathan with a hook, or hold down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a ring into his nose, or pierce his jaw with a gaff hook? . . .Will you play with him as with a bird? Or will you bind him for your maidens? . . . ( Job 41:1 - 2, 5, also see the rest of the chapter).
The third possible reference to these large reptiles is in Genesis 1:21 where it states that God created "great sea creatures." Many Scriptural scholars feel that these references are talking about the hippopotamus, crocodile, whale or other large known animal. Other scholars of a more scientific mind suggest that these verses are actually referencing dinosaurs.
Hi Mary. The Bible tells us in Genesis 6:10 that Noah's children were only three sons. No mention is made of any daughters. Then the Apostle Peter confirms this in 1 Peter 3:20, "...when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." Here we read, that eight people were only on the ark (plus the animals), & these were Noah, his wife, his three sons & their wives ( Genesis 6:18). So, I think it's safe to assume that Noah didn't have any daughters.
I see no reason to avoid Biblical subjects that are not specifically dealing with the issue of salvation. I also see no reason to assume the offspring of the daughters of men in Gen 6 were only half human and did not inherit sin from Adam.
That's fine, the angels being the sons of God and mating with women is a subject that has no bearing on our salvation. May the Holy Spirit lead us and guide us in the discussions that we do in humility and love toward each other so that we all may grow.
Your other point on sin being passed down from the man is a different discussion that if you post it others may have some helpful replies. I know Adam was not deceived 1 Timothy 2:14 and in Adam, all die 1 Corinthians 15:22.
Eve also ate of the tree, she was not born of man, was she not under the same curse? Was it a curse on mankind as a whole without having it passed down to them from dad or mom? Is the sin nature a sin? Jesus had to have the ability to sin to fulfill the covenant, Hebrews 4:15. Just a couple of questions may others give you answers.
I don't believe angels can have sex with humans and produce offspring, but if they did their offspring would not have been human sinners who inherited their sin from Adam.
The times of Noah were horrendous as in Genesis 6:11. As you said sons of God are used 5 times in OT Genesis 6Job 1Job 2 and Job 38 all referring to angels. It is used 6 times in the NT John 1Romans 8Philippians 2 and 1 John 3, my understanding is referring to those who have accepted and have faith in Jesus.
There are many opinions on fallen angels, devils/demons. There are evil beings on this earth today, we see in Daniel battles that may be going on that we are not aware of, Daniel 10. There is a set of angels that were different and for what they did, God locked them in chains of darkness until the judgment 2 Peter 2:4Jude 1:6, and others can still roam the earth.
In verses 6:4 daughters of men having children, they became mighty men of old. The Hebrew word for old is m-'-w-lm, meaning defined as long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, or world. It was translated everlasting 110 times, forever 136 times.
Giants we see before and after the flood as said in Genesis 6:4 "and also after that". The word giant is Nephilim and also the Rephaim (or Rephaites, the terrible ones), You can find them throughout the OT and their descriptions are not just a tall big man, Numbers 13:33Amos 2:9 and more.
When God created everything the seed is after his kind, a dog will have a dog, a bear will have a bear, and so on, a man and woman may have a tall big man but it will not be a giant. Angels can on earth have a body that can eat, and drink, Genesis 18, fiscally wrestle Genesis 32 and we are told how we should entertain strangers because they may be an angel, Hebrews 13.
Just a few things you may look at. If an angel left his first estate and came down to earth could he mate? Was that why God locked them in darkness and other bad angels and Satan can still roam the earth? After the flood, there were only 8 where did these giants come from?
Dear "John", That was a good question. Hope you get more answers that are grounded in the Word dear friend. Just want to give you a new thought here. But God actually repented that He created man in any case! I advise you to go ahead and not think so much about things that are difficult right now. Because you find out. He who seeks he finds.
This is an interesting thread, and a topic much discussed in Christendom today!
I agree with you, Marke. I don't believe the 'sons of God' are angels. Not one of the old time preachers/commentators I've read believed so either.
I believe the godly line of Seth began to degenerate and instead of taking godly women to themselves for the sake of maintaining a holy race, they looked upon the fair daughters of men and began to mix, believers and unbelievers....much like today's ecumenism.
Once there was no holy race left that was totally devoted to the One true God...destruction ensued!
The sad thing about history is that we don't learn from history, Marke! What has been is again...and the crazy thing is, people do the same things as those 'back then' did who apostasized, and are deluded into thinking they will come out of it all without ending up with the same tragic results as they did in the past! Lord, help us!
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. ...
Some people assume the sons of God in this passage refer to angels. I don't. The term "sons of God" is clearly used in the Bible to refer to angels as well as to human believers. I do not believe the passage in Gen 6 refers to godly angels having sex with human women resulting in wicked angel/human offspring. I believe a better interpretation would be that believing men had sex with unbelieving women and their offspring ended up becoming unbelievers of renown.
If not, I find it problematic to say the offspring of angels were born with the sin of Adam, knowing that sin is not passed through the mother but through the father, to the offspring, else Jesus would have inherited Adam's sin from his mother.
Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
I believe it was to clearly point out the fulfillment of Prophecy. Please see:
Son of David prophecy : 1Kings 9:5, Jeremiah 33:17, 2Chronicles 7:18, Psalms 132:11,
The coming promise of deliverance : Jeremiah 23:5, Jeremiah 33:15, proclaimed: Matthew 22:24,43,44,45, Matthew 1:1,
Luke 18:38, some identified JESUS as by different names for significance to themselves, healer, deliverer
Son of GOD : Genesis 6:2,4, Daniel 3:25, Matthew 8:29, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 27:54, Mark 1:1, Luke 1:35, Romans 8:14, Matthew 11:27,
Son of Man : prophecy : Daniel 7:13-14, Revelation 1, Genesis 3:15, Ezekiel 30:1-4, Job 25:4-6, Job 35:8-16, Matthew 24:30, proclaimed : Mark 14:21, John 12, Matthew 11:19,
Additionally he was called the BRANCH : Job 14:7, Psalms 80:15, Isaiah 11:1, Isaiah 14:19, Jeremiah 23:5, Zechariah 3:8, Zechariah 6:12, proclamed: John 15,
"Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?"
"Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?"
Interesting discussion indeed my brother. I would add the following.
During the flood of Noah, that more than likely, there were babies and children who died during this event. The thought of this happening breaks my heart as a dad and grandpa. There is no mention of Satan being granted permission to create this flood.
Genesis 6:17 is very clear.
"And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die."
The creator must have processed the thoughts of what would happen to the little ones, and how scared they must have been. And then look into the future and see in the same word the following.
Psalms 127: 3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
So, the question still remains.
Does the creator have evil thoughts?
I don't expect any of mankind to know this answer, for only the creator knows.
Genesis 6:4 reads as follows: The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
God the Father Cannot Look Upon Sin - In Reply - 2 years ago
Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said
Not to Noah, as in ( Genesis 6:13 ) for, as yet, he is not taken notice of, or any discourse addressed to him; but rather to or within himself, he said what follows, or thus concluded, and resolved on in his own mind: my Spirit shall not always strive with man;
meaning either the soul of man, called the Spirit of God, ( Job 27:3 ) because of his creation, and is what he breathes and puts into men, and therefore is styled the Father of spirits; and which is in man, as some in Aben Ezra observe to be the sense the word used, as a sword in the scabbard; and so the meaning is, it shall not always abide there, but be unsheathed and drawn out; man shall not live always, since he is corrupt, and given to carnal lusts: or else, as Jarchi thinks, God himself is meant, and that the sense is, my Spirit shall not always contend within myself; or there shall not always be contention within me concerning man, whether I shall destroy him, or have mercy on him; I am at a point to punish him, since he is wholly carnal: or rather this is to be understood of the Holy Spirit of God: ( 1 Peter 3:18-20) and to be thus interpreted; that the Spirit of God, which had been litigating and reasoning the point, as men do in a court of judicature, as the word signifies, with these men in the court, and at the bar of their own consciences, by one providence or by one minister or another, particularly by Noah, a preacher of righteousness, in vain, and to no purpose; therefore, God determines to proceed no longer in this way, but pass and execute the sentence of condemnation on them: for that he also is flesh;
not only carnal and corrupt, but sadly corrupted, and wholly given up to and immersed in sensual lusts and carnal pleasures, so as not to be restrained nor reformed; even the posterity of Seth, professors of religion also, as well as the profane world and posterity of Cain.
Not to Noah, as in ( Genesis 6:13 ) for, as yet, he is not taken notice of, or any discourse addressed to him; but rather to or within himself, he said what follows, or thus concluded, and resolved on in his own mind: my Spirit shall not always strive with man;
meaning either the soul of man, called the Spirit of God, ( Job 27:3 ) because of his creation, and is what God breathes and puts into men, and therefore is styled the Father of spirits; and which is in man, as some in Aben Ezra observe to be the sense the word used, as a sword in the scabbard; and so the meaning is, it shall not always abide there, but be unsheathed and drawn out; man shall not live always, since he is corrupt, and given to carnal lusts: or else, as Jarchi thinks, God himself is meant, and that the sense is,
my Spirit shall not always contend within myself; or there shall not always be contention within me concerning man, whether I shall destroy him, or have mercy on him; I am at a point to punish him, since he is wholly carnal: or rather this is to be understood of the Holy Spirit of God, as the Targum of Jonathan, which agrees with ( 1 Peter 3:18-20 ) and to be thus interpreted; that the Spirit of God, which had been litigating and reasoning the point, as men do in a court of judicature, as the word signifies, with these men in the court, and at the bar of their own consciences, by one providence or by one minister or another, particularly by Noah, a preacher of righteousness, in vain, and to no purpose; therefore, he determines to proceed no longer in this way, but pass and execute the sentence of condemnation on them: for that he also is flesh;
not only carnal and corrupt, but sadly corrupted, and wholly given up to and immersed in sensual lusts and carnal pleasures, so as not to be restrained nor reformed; even the posterity of Seth, professors of religion also, as well as the profane world and posterity of Cain.
Note Genesis 3:24 "drove out the man" singular, Genesis 3:23, "from the Garden of Eden" Genesis 3:22, "the man" is become like one of us, to know good & evil" is this religion?
* Note, Genesis 4:14 ._._." everyone thst findeth me shall slay._." proof more people in earth. Genesis 4:15,
* Genesis 4:16, appears she was from Nod.
Likewise in Genesis 4:23, the man that was slain wasn't mentioned here.
If you read & study the WORD of GOD, many times you will notice names & several other details are left out at times. 1Kings 17:9-24, same Widow? = Luke 4:26, Luke 7:12, Luke 21:2-3, yet many names are mentioned, when studying often times their names come up again, helping understand a more vast picture. Genesis 6:1-2, is this also in reference to Genesis 4:19, ?
Note Genesis 5, generation of Adam leaves out Cain, Abel & all other people. Again: Genesis 5:1-2, Gen 5:3, "male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day they were created" = them, their, they.
(Originally posted under wrong verse, should be Hebrews 11:5-7)
Enoch
Genesis 5:21-22
Hebrews 11:5-6
Jude 1:14-15
Noah
Genesis 6:1 through Genesis 9:29
Matthew 24:37-39
Luke 17:26-30
Hebrews 11:7
1 Peter 3:19-20
2 Peter 2:5
2 Peter 3:3-7
Whether or not a person acknowledges it, Enoch and Noah are fathers to every man, woman and child living today. However, without saving faith they will only be fathers according to the flesh to our generation. That genetic relationship will be undeniably proven before God, but it will not only profit us nothing, it will actually make anyone in our generation more guilty than the people in theirs if they mock or ignore the testimony concerning them in these last days without repenting and believing in Jesus Christ as they did. We need to carefully consider and draw both encouragement and warning from their examples of faith if we want to share any of the benefits of the heritage they have left us.
Jesus Christ is the one who will catch us up to be with Him, like He did Enoch, if we are confirmed by the Holy Spirit to be those who please Him and His Father. He is also the unexpected Bridegroom who will close the wedding feast door that lets in the prepared wise virgins but shuts out the unprepared foolish virgins where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth, like He closed the door of the Ark that Noah prepared behind him and his household, shutting out those who were unprepared outside.
Although no one should count on it, if in His grace the Father continues to patiently wait beyond our short lives to send Christ with His holy angels for the final harvest, we still must hold to the fear of the LORD we see in these two ancestors of ours and uphold their testimony so that we may be partakers with them in the pleasure the Father has in their faith and the faith of all those mentioned in this chapter of Hebrews. That is one of the ways we will be able to add our own testimony of faith to theirs.
John 21:25, if Jesus CHRIST's acts could not be contained & HIS ministry was about 3 yrs. Then how could we expect on earth all the information about the days before the flood? Yet GOD in HIS infinite wisdom gives us more than enough.
I believe these are the scriptures, you're looking for: John 1:12,
As Rev 4:10-11 states, God created all thins for His pleasure. Elsewhere in Scripture it says that God created everything for His Glory (can't find the verse right now). In another place it says that God created the earth to be inhabited.
So here we have in Scripture these purpose for creation. He did not need to create because He is complete withing Himself in need of nothing outside of Himself. But He did choose to create everything other than Himself because it pleases Him to see His glory displayed in all of creation and in His plan for the beings He created. God was benevolent in creating the universe and all living things, not out of pride or conceit. He desired to share Himself with beings He created, not because He needed these relationships, but because He wanted to have others outside of the Godhead benefit from His love and goodness. And in doing so, He glorifies Himself in creation as He exercises His attributes to their fullest.
I often think about what it means that He created for His glory. This is not well-defined in Scripture. I guess if He wanted us to know in full His reason for creating all things, He would have elaborated more in Scripture. Maybe we will understand this more in eternity. We are limited creatures. He is infinite Creator. So we cannot expect to comprehend all of Who He is and His purposes. But knowing that He and His purposes are absolutely good helps us to trust His actions.
10The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
This is confirmed by God saying at the end of the first 5 days that God saw that it was good. At the end of the 6th day when He created the beasts and especially man in His likeness He said it was very good. The 7th day He rested from all that He created and blessed it. He was satisfied and pleased with creation and put his blessing over all of it.
The fall has brought the curse and dissatisfaction and wrath as the serpent intended, not God. If Satan can no longer have the pleasure of God and the blessings God spoke over His creation, he has made it his sole purpose with everything in his power to make sure no one else can have it.
God put enmity between two seeds in the curse of the serpent, the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. This was prophetically spoken to make a separation between them in God's new creation, like when he spoke light into existence and separated light and darkness on the first day of the old creation. Cain couldn't stand Able being blessed for offering a blood sacrifice when he wasn't for his earthly offerings. Cain killed Able, which demonstrated Cain was born of the seed of the serpent with his focus on earthly things and hatred of anyone being blessed when he wasn't. Able was of the seed of the woman by faith offerng a sacrifice in the likeness of the one who's resurrection is the beginning of the new creation, Jesus Christ.
We can overcome the fall, curse, dissatisfaction and wrath God intends for the devil and return to the rest where God is satisfied and pleased with us. But the only way to do that now is to become His new creations in Christ and let the old creation pass away
Genesis 6:6 And today we are the chosen one too set thing in order. Example 1 Peter 2:6 John 14:6 Make ppl see Jesus Christ only in Him thru The Holy Goust can we see God. Many see a different God today, but are driven away, becouse of the eval who is in them and the eval in the spiritual world, who every one not see. Ephesians 6:12-19 W e all need to come thru in Jesus.
I know nice ppl who have going too church for 40 years and they have the holy spirit in one way, but are bounded in television and work. I belive that God have a place for them. What i try to tell is: Not everybody sees the Spirit of the Holy. And remember we have all different work in the Lord. 1 Corintihans 12 And in that the eval can grow if they dont stop it by a gift they have. A friend may se it and pray to stop it.
Galatians 6:2
Thats why Paul continue to tell us, dont give up! We must be standfast in the Word of God and dont complane. And Love Jesus and all ppl, and rases.
God bless us all in Jesus name, love u in Christ
Promise Ephesians 6:1-3, Psalms 103:5,
Hopefully these are helpful
Apparently, before Noah's flood destroyed the antediluvian ecosystem, the earth could produce large bodied long living reptiles that we call dinosaurs (a word which means a fearful or monstrous lizard). The word of God states that not only did all humans, except eight, were destroyed by the flood, but also the earth itself was wrecked ( Genesis 6:13).
The first possible mention of dinosaurs in the Bible is in Job 40. God, speaking directly to the patriarch Job, challenges him regarding a mysterious beast known as the Behemoth.Now behold the behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox; See, now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the muscles of his belly.He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are like tubes of bronze; his ribs are like bars of iron. ( Job 40:15 - 18, HBFV, see also verses 19 to 24)
The second possible reference to huge, now extinct dinosaurs is in Job 41. God, again speaking directly to Job, challenges him regarding his ability to catch or tame a creature referred to as Leviathan.Can you draw out the leviathan with a hook, or hold down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a ring into his nose, or pierce his jaw with a gaff hook? . . .Will you play with him as with a bird? Or will you bind him for your maidens? . . . ( Job 41:1 - 2, 5, also see the rest of the chapter).
The third possible reference to these large reptiles is in Genesis 1:21 where it states that God created "great sea creatures." Many Scriptural scholars feel that these references are talking about the hippopotamus, crocodile, whale or other large known animal. Other scholars of a more scientific mind suggest that these verses are actually referencing dinosaurs.
The literal meaning of th
I see no reason to avoid Biblical subjects that are not specifically dealing with the issue of salvation. I also see no reason to assume the offspring of the daughters of men in Gen 6 were only half human and did not inherit sin from Adam.
That's fine, the angels being the sons of God and mating with women is a subject that has no bearing on our salvation. May the Holy Spirit lead us and guide us in the discussions that we do in humility and love toward each other so that we all may grow.
Your other point on sin being passed down from the man is a different discussion that if you post it others may have some helpful replies. I know Adam was not deceived 1 Timothy 2:14 and in Adam, all die 1 Corinthians 15:22.
Eve also ate of the tree, she was not born of man, was she not under the same curse? Was it a curse on mankind as a whole without having it passed down to them from dad or mom? Is the sin nature a sin? Jesus had to have the ability to sin to fulfill the covenant, Hebrews 4:15. Just a couple of questions may others give you answers.
God bless,
RLW
I don't believe angels can have sex with humans and produce offspring, but if they did their offspring would not have been human sinners who inherited their sin from Adam.
The times of Noah were horrendous as in Genesis 6:11. As you said sons of God are used 5 times in OT Genesis 6 Job 1 Job 2 and Job 38 all referring to angels. It is used 6 times in the NT John 1 Romans 8 Philippians 2 and 1 John 3, my understanding is referring to those who have accepted and have faith in Jesus.
There are many opinions on fallen angels, devils/demons. There are evil beings on this earth today, we see in Daniel battles that may be going on that we are not aware of, Daniel 10. There is a set of angels that were different and for what they did, God locked them in chains of darkness until the judgment 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6, and others can still roam the earth.
In verses 6:4 daughters of men having children, they became mighty men of old. The Hebrew word for old is m-'-w-lm, meaning defined as long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, or world. It was translated everlasting 110 times, forever 136 times.
Giants we see before and after the flood as said in Genesis 6:4 "and also after that". The word giant is Nephilim and also the Rephaim (or Rephaites, the terrible ones), You can find them throughout the OT and their descriptions are not just a tall big man, Numbers 13:33 Amos 2:9 and more.
When God created everything the seed is after his kind, a dog will have a dog, a bear will have a bear, and so on, a man and woman may have a tall big man but it will not be a giant. Angels can on earth have a body that can eat, and drink, Genesis 18, fiscally wrestle Genesis 32 and we are told how we should entertain strangers because they may be an angel, Hebrews 13.
Just a few things you may look at. If an angel left his first estate and came down to earth could he mate? Was that why God locked them in darkness and other bad angels and Satan can still roam the earth? After the flood, there were only 8 where did these giants come from?
Interesting subject,
God bless,
RLW
Genesis 6:6 Matthew 18
I agree with you, Marke. I don't believe the 'sons of God' are angels. Not one of the old time preachers/commentators I've read believed so either.
I believe the godly line of Seth began to degenerate and instead of taking godly women to themselves for the sake of maintaining a holy race, they looked upon the fair daughters of men and began to mix, believers and unbelievers....much like today's ecumenism.
Once there was no holy race left that was totally devoted to the One true God...destruction ensued!
The sad thing about history is that we don't learn from history, Marke! What has been is again...and the crazy thing is, people do the same things as those 'back then' did who apostasized, and are deluded into thinking they will come out of it all without ending up with the same tragic results as they did in the past! Lord, help us!
Blessings!
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. ...
Some people assume the sons of God in this passage refer to angels. I don't. The term "sons of God" is clearly used in the Bible to refer to angels as well as to human believers. I do not believe the passage in Gen 6 refers to godly angels having sex with human women resulting in wicked angel/human offspring. I believe a better interpretation would be that believing men had sex with unbelieving women and their offspring ended up becoming unbelievers of renown.
If not, I find it problematic to say the offspring of angels were born with the sin of Adam, knowing that sin is not passed through the mother but through the father, to the offspring, else Jesus would have inherited Adam's sin from his mother.
Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Son of David prophecy : 1Kings 9:5, Jeremiah 33:17, 2Chronicles 7:18, Psalms 132:11,
The coming promise of deliverance : Jeremiah 23:5, Jeremiah 33:15, proclaimed: Matthew 22:24,43,44,45, Matthew 1:1,
Luke 18:38, some identified JESUS as by different names for significance to themselves, healer, deliverer
Son of GOD : Genesis 6:2,4, Daniel 3:25, Matthew 8:29, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 27:54, Mark 1:1, Luke 1:35, Romans 8:14, Matthew 11:27,
Son of Man : prophecy : Daniel 7:13-14, Revelation 1, Genesis 3:15, Ezekiel 30:1-4, Job 25:4-6, Job 35:8-16, Matthew 24:30, proclaimed : Mark 14:21, John 12, Matthew 11:19,
Additionally he was called the BRANCH : Job 14:7, Psalms 80:15, Isaiah 11:1, Isaiah 14:19, Jeremiah 23:5, Zechariah 3:8, Zechariah 6:12, proclamed: John 15,
Also "shall be called Nazarene " Matthew 2:23,
Hopefully this is helpful
God was never created. He is self-existent and eternal, never having a beginning. He needs nothing outside of Himself to exist or have life.
This is hard for our finite, creaturely minds to truly understand. Nothing caused God to Be. He is I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE.
"Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?"
"Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?"
During the flood of Noah, that more than likely, there were babies and children who died during this event. The thought of this happening breaks my heart as a dad and grandpa. There is no mention of Satan being granted permission to create this flood.
Genesis 6:17 is very clear.
"And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die."
The creator must have processed the thoughts of what would happen to the little ones, and how scared they must have been. And then look into the future and see in the same word the following.
Psalms 127: 3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
So, the question still remains.
Does the creator have evil thoughts?
I don't expect any of mankind to know this answer, for only the creator knows.
Peace be with you brother.
Genesis 9:5, 1Kings 13:9-32, 1Samuel 6, note 1Samuel 6:7,10,12, Numbers 22:12-35, Daniel 6, Matthew 10:28-31, Luke 12:6-7, context Luke 12, Isaiah 11, Isaiah 11:6-10, Genesis 6:18-20, Genesis 7:1-9,23, Genesis 8, Psalms 145:8,9,
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Genesis 4:25,26, Genesis 5:1-3, Genesis 5, Genesis 6:1-13, Genesis 7, & 8, Genesis 9:8-9, Hebrews 11:1-7, 1John 3:12,
Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:45, Deuteronomy 32:8, Matthew 3:21-38, Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:22,45,
Jude 1,
Not to Noah, as in ( Genesis 6:13 ) for, as yet, he is not taken notice of, or any discourse addressed to him; but rather to or within himself, he said what follows, or thus concluded, and resolved on in his own mind: my Spirit shall not always strive with man;
meaning either the soul of man, called the Spirit of God, ( Job 27:3 ) because of his creation, and is what he breathes and puts into men, and therefore is styled the Father of spirits; and which is in man, as some in Aben Ezra observe to be the sense the word used, as a sword in the scabbard; and so the meaning is, it shall not always abide there, but be unsheathed and drawn out; man shall not live always, since he is corrupt, and given to carnal lusts: or else, as Jarchi thinks, God himself is meant, and that the sense is, my Spirit shall not always contend within myself; or there shall not always be contention within me concerning man, whether I shall destroy him, or have mercy on him; I am at a point to punish him, since he is wholly carnal: or rather this is to be understood of the Holy Spirit of God: ( 1 Peter 3:18-20) and to be thus interpreted; that the Spirit of God, which had been litigating and reasoning the point, as men do in a court of judicature, as the word signifies, with these men in the court, and at the bar of their own consciences, by one providence or by one minister or another, particularly by Noah, a preacher of righteousness, in vain, and to no purpose; therefore, God determines to proceed no longer in this way, but pass and execute the sentence of condemnation on them: for that he also is flesh;
not only carnal and corrupt, but sadly corrupted, and wholly given up to and immersed in sensual lusts and carnal pleasures, so as not to be restrained nor reformed; even the posterity of Seth, professors of religion also, as well as the profane world and posterity of Cain.
JESUS CAME TO REDEEM US WITH HIS BLOOD.
And the Lord said
Not to Noah, as in ( Genesis 6:13 ) for, as yet, he is not taken notice of, or any discourse addressed to him; but rather to or within himself, he said what follows, or thus concluded, and resolved on in his own mind: my Spirit shall not always strive with man;
meaning either the soul of man, called the Spirit of God, ( Job 27:3 ) because of his creation, and is what God breathes and puts into men, and therefore is styled the Father of spirits; and which is in man, as some in Aben Ezra observe to be the sense the word used, as a sword in the scabbard; and so the meaning is, it shall not always abide there, but be unsheathed and drawn out; man shall not live always, since he is corrupt, and given to carnal lusts: or else, as Jarchi thinks, God himself is meant, and that the sense is,
my Spirit shall not always contend within myself; or there shall not always be contention within me concerning man, whether I shall destroy him, or have mercy on him; I am at a point to punish him, since he is wholly carnal: or rather this is to be understood of the Holy Spirit of God, as the Targum of Jonathan, which agrees with ( 1 Peter 3:18-20 ) and to be thus interpreted; that the Spirit of God, which had been litigating and reasoning the point, as men do in a court of judicature, as the word signifies, with these men in the court, and at the bar of their own consciences, by one providence or by one minister or another, particularly by Noah, a preacher of righteousness, in vain, and to no purpose; therefore, he determines to proceed no longer in this way, but pass and execute the sentence of condemnation on them: for that he also is flesh;
not only carnal and corrupt, but sadly corrupted, and wholly given up to and immersed in sensual lusts and carnal pleasures, so as not to be restrained nor reformed; even the posterity of Seth, professors of religion also, as well as the profane world and posterity of Cain.
Jesus came to redeem us from sin
Note Genesis 3:24 "drove out the man" singular, Genesis 3:23, "from the Garden of Eden" Genesis 3:22, "the man" is become like one of us, to know good & evil" is this religion?
* Note, Genesis 4:14 ._._." everyone thst findeth me shall slay._." proof more people in earth. Genesis 4:15,
* Genesis 4:16, appears she was from Nod.
Likewise in Genesis 4:23, the man that was slain wasn't mentioned here.
If you read & study the WORD of GOD, many times you will notice names & several other details are left out at times. 1Kings 17:9-24, same Widow? = Luke 4:26, Luke 7:12, Luke 21:2-3, yet many names are mentioned, when studying often times their names come up again, helping understand a more vast picture. Genesis 6:1-2, is this also in reference to Genesis 4:19, ?
Note Genesis 5, generation of Adam leaves out Cain, Abel & all other people. Again: Genesis 5:1-2, Gen 5:3, "male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day they were created" = them, their, they.
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Genesis 9:22, honestly ask yourself would you go tell others? Or cover? Who showed their father honor? Genesis 9:23
Noah, "knew what his younger son had done to him." Genesis 9:24, it wasn't that he just saw.
There's additional information, to help readers understand, Genesis 9:18, Genesis 9:22, Genesis 9:25, Genesis 10:15, note Canaan, 1st recorded rape of a girl Genesis 33:18, Genesis 34:1-2, & Sodom & Gomorrah, Genesis 10:19, Genesis 13:13, Genesis 18:20, Genesis 18, Gen. 19,
Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, Ezekiel 16:49, Jude 1:7, it appears to point to a root of evil started with that person.
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Enoch
Genesis 5:21-22
Hebrews 11:5-6
Jude 1:14-15
Noah
Genesis 6:1 through Genesis 9:29
Matthew 24:37-39
Luke 17:26-30
Hebrews 11:7
1 Peter 3:19-20
2 Peter 2:5
2 Peter 3:3-7
Whether or not a person acknowledges it, Enoch and Noah are fathers to every man, woman and child living today. However, without saving faith they will only be fathers according to the flesh to our generation. That genetic relationship will be undeniably proven before God, but it will not only profit us nothing, it will actually make anyone in our generation more guilty than the people in theirs if they mock or ignore the testimony concerning them in these last days without repenting and believing in Jesus Christ as they did. We need to carefully consider and draw both encouragement and warning from their examples of faith if we want to share any of the benefits of the heritage they have left us.
Jesus Christ is the one who will catch us up to be with Him, like He did Enoch, if we are confirmed by the Holy Spirit to be those who please Him and His Father. He is also the unexpected Bridegroom who will close the wedding feast door that lets in the prepared wise virgins but shuts out the unprepared foolish virgins where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth, like He closed the door of the Ark that Noah prepared behind him and his household, shutting out those who were unprepared outside.
Although no one should count on it, if in His grace the Father continues to patiently wait beyond our short lives to send Christ with His holy angels for the final harvest, we still must hold to the fear of the LORD we see in these two ancestors of ours and uphold their testimony so that we may be partakers with them in the pleasure the Father has in their faith and the faith of all those mentioned in this chapter of Hebrews. That is one of the ways we will be able to add our own testimony of faith to theirs.
I believe these are the scriptures, you're looking for: John 1:12,
Genesis 4:26, Genesis 5:22-24, Genesis 6:1-7,
Revelation 22:18,19, Deuteronomy 4:2,
As Rev 4:10-11 states, God created all thins for His pleasure. Elsewhere in Scripture it says that God created everything for His Glory (can't find the verse right now). In another place it says that God created the earth to be inhabited.
So here we have in Scripture these purpose for creation. He did not need to create because He is complete withing Himself in need of nothing outside of Himself. But He did choose to create everything other than Himself because it pleases Him to see His glory displayed in all of creation and in His plan for the beings He created. God was benevolent in creating the universe and all living things, not out of pride or conceit. He desired to share Himself with beings He created, not because He needed these relationships, but because He wanted to have others outside of the Godhead benefit from His love and goodness. And in doing so, He glorifies Himself in creation as He exercises His attributes to their fullest.
I often think about what it means that He created for His glory. This is not well-defined in Scripture. I guess if He wanted us to know in full His reason for creating all things, He would have elaborated more in Scripture. Maybe we will understand this more in eternity. We are limited creatures. He is infinite Creator. So we cannot expect to comprehend all of Who He is and His purposes. But knowing that He and His purposes are absolutely good helps us to trust His actions.
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10The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
This is confirmed by God saying at the end of the first 5 days that God saw that it was good. At the end of the 6th day when He created the beasts and especially man in His likeness He said it was very good. The 7th day He rested from all that He created and blessed it. He was satisfied and pleased with creation and put his blessing over all of it.
The fall has brought the curse and dissatisfaction and wrath as the serpent intended, not God. If Satan can no longer have the pleasure of God and the blessings God spoke over His creation, he has made it his sole purpose with everything in his power to make sure no one else can have it.
God put enmity between two seeds in the curse of the serpent, the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. This was prophetically spoken to make a separation between them in God's new creation, like when he spoke light into existence and separated light and darkness on the first day of the old creation. Cain couldn't stand Able being blessed for offering a blood sacrifice when he wasn't for his earthly offerings. Cain killed Able, which demonstrated Cain was born of the seed of the serpent with his focus on earthly things and hatred of anyone being blessed when he wasn't. Able was of the seed of the woman by faith offerng a sacrifice in the likeness of the one who's resurrection is the beginning of the new creation, Jesus Christ.
We can overcome the fall, curse, dissatisfaction and wrath God intends for the devil and return to the rest where God is satisfied and pleased with us. But the only way to do that now is to become His new creations in Christ and let the old creation pass away