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  • Meme on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    These angles left their estate (heaven) came down from heaven and TOOK the daughters of men and children were born (meaning very tall and strong) these are considered the fallen angles the third that fell with satan.
  • Kathryn Leal on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    God never said that angles did not have a specific sex, He merely said that they did not marry. Read you Bible. The angels did have sexual relationships with woman and thus created the Nephilim, the giants of old, men of renown. It was because of this pollution to the DNA of humans that God had to destroy His creation. Only Noah and his family did not allow their DNA to be corrupted. Try reading the book of Enoch to which Jesus Himself refers, and you will learn the whole truth about those days. Also, prepare yourself because Jesus said, "As in the days of Noah, so shall be the coming the Son of Man be....
  • Gilbert on Genesis 6:4 - 13 years ago
    It's me again, I meant the kingship descended upon earth before the flood and after!
  • Gilbert on Genesis 6:4 - 13 years ago
    In Genesis chapter 1-Beasts of the earth(Dinosaurs)and in chapter 2-beasts of the field(mammals of today). In Genesis 6 vs 4; were the fallen angels who fornicated with the daughters of men and procreated GIANTS.In the Septuagint Bible it reads, and they bore them children, these were the giants of old, men of renown. In the Sumerian King's list, the kingship ascended before the flood and after, therfore twice did fallen angels descend upon earth and commited the same sin which equalled the Rephaim after the flood, but, in the book of Enoch,towards the last chapter, it reads that Noah's posterity would produce giants of carnel flesh which equalled the caananites, the amorites etc....etc....
  • J.R. on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    To, Denard

    You may want to check out Jude, and read up what it says angles actually did, and where they will be sent to. Also, angles did, according to the scriptures have come down many times back then, and took coporeal human like forms. they were suboordinate to God's will, but any rebellious ones would not be on the same accord. I mean Jacob wrestled with the angel (I think thats who) and then men who were in Sodom tried to gang rape the two angles that came to sojurn with Lot.
  • Trent on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    This says angels had sex with human women in Earth and their offspring were called Nephilim- like giants, who possibly became Philistines and were mentioned in Numbers 13:33 as inhabiting Canaan.
  • Trent on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    Interesting how verse 3 says man's age will be limited to 120 years and thousands of years later with all of man's innovations in science and health, it still holds true. The oldest people in the world live to be right around 120.
  • Denard on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    We can rule the half angel and half humans out because God say that angels do not have sex. Besides angels would not be able to reproduce with humans anymore then a rabbit can reproduce with a snake and create half snake half rabbit hybird.
    I often wonder what God mean't by giants in the earth in those days. Wanted to ask harold camping that but never got a chance. Insects were bigger and rabbits where 6ft tall so maybe humans could the been 10-12ft tall back then making them giants. Since being that tall was normole noah could the been 12ft and not felt like a giant if everybody eles was that big. Preflood eviroment was diffrent. Maybe people grew smaller after the flood. it may have when down to 9ft, 8ft 7ft until our current average.
  • Jim on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    Passages like these referring to the sons of God are difficult to understand. There really is no possibility of any definitive resolutions to the questions this chapter in Genesis raises. There simply isn't enough information in the Bible itself to do so.
  • J.R. on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    Yea, just to through my own 1/2 cent in there...it also helps to be able to read and speak hebrew, and latin. There are many synonyms that they use, which when translated to english have two COMPLETLY different meanings, or are similar, but different. My best example is when the Holy spirit came in and gave teh disciples power. In that passage it talks aobut different "kinds" of power where as Jesus had Power, the disciples recived a different kind of power a "power to do things" its really hard to explain, but i learned of it only through latin. Think of it as meaning power=the ablility to do work, and Power=Authoritative power(like a judges power). Anyway i digress to my original 1/2 cent. If you take the hebrew literally of the name Micheal, it translates to " Who is like God?" important to take into the fact that it ends in a question mark.
  • Pat on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    If you really want to know about the Giants look in youtube for Giants Found and you will see that these men were/are real and actually existed! God reveals to man thru the Holy Spirit and men wrote it down for the future generations of childrens yet unborn. Praise God! God is TRUTH!!
  • Chris howard on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    everything the bible said happened, really happened!
  • Butch on Genesis 6:2 - 13 years ago
    sorry, jennifer, both you and wesley are way off. do you know the only reason that interpretation was used was because people just found it too incredible? but isnt the Bible filled with the incredible? angels were not supposed to, but these were FALLEN angels, who were attempting to contaminate the human bloodline and stave off the birth of Jesus. you'll notice that noah is described as "perfect in his generations", meaning exactly what it says, his bloodline was not polluted. even jude 1:6-7 says 6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire". so yes angels are not supposed to have sex w/ humans but these guys did and were punished. the "myths" of zeus, apollo, and hercules were all true. the fallen angels claimed to be gods and the people worshipped them. the giants were called "heroes, men of renown". nothing i say is unBiblical. the Bible doesnt get into it but the inferences are there. the book of enoch is more descriptive. the book of enoch is considered apochrapal because of its subject matter and was taken out of the Bible by the catholic church. but several copies of the book of enoch were found w/ the Dead Sea Scrolls.
  • Christopher on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    I believe that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were fallen angels. One reason why is because angels are called "sons of God" in Job 1:6, 2:1 38:7, plus it says in 2 Peter 2:4, "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment"
    What was their sin? It couldn't have been the sin of rebellion, because otherwise, all the fallen angels would be in hell, and we know that they are not. Only some of the fallen angels married women of the earth and sired children who ended up being giants, and that was the sin that 2 Peter 2:4 is talking about, and Jude 6 speaks more about that sin, it speaks of angels that kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation. A group of fallen angels did not keep their first estate, but left it to come down to earth and either took on human form or possessed the bodys of earth men and mated with earth women, and the result was a race of giants, and that was the sin that 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 is talking about. If "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were the line of seth or just men in general, why does it use the word "men" then "sons of God" if men and sons of God both refer to men? The word "men" is in verse 1, and "sons of God" and "men" are in verse 2. "sons of God" and "men" are in verse 4. "sons of God" and "men" must be two different types of beings, otherwise, why not just use the word "men" instead of "sons of God" as well?

    If the sons of God were the godly line of Seth who were unequally yoked together with the ungodly daughters of Cain, I doubt that that would cause their offspring to be giants. They were giant in size because in Numbers 13:33 it says, "And there we saw the giants {nephelim in Hebrew} and it goes on to say, "and we were in our own sight grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. So the nephelim in Gen. 6 must have been giant is size just like the nephelim in Numbers 13, and something happened to make them giant sized, and it could not have been because of godly men marrying ungodly women. Something else went on to make them giants, and that was the unnatural union between angels and earth women who married and had sex.
  • Onefeather on Genesis 6:4 - 13 years ago
    I like Butch's statement about the use of the word renown, if taken by the meaning of the word it leaves the impression that they/are good which they were not it seems.
  • Ron on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    Joe! Who told you that angels are sexless? Read the book of Jude and learn about the angels who had left their first estate. I personally know of demon oppressed people who have been sexually molested by demons, while lying in bed next to their husbands. The scripture is accurate.
  • Kody on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    Personally i feel i am unable to firmly grasp the concept of this passage i have read several times over and am unable to find anything about the fallen angels. I have read about the giants however but again do not fully understand the gravity with which this passage holds if anyone can shed some light on this it would be very much appreciated.
  • Kolo Mary Matthew on Genesis 6 - 13 years ago
    I am thinking of God's promise, and how He fulfills His promise
  • Jennifer on Genesis 6:2 - 14 years ago
    Wesley did just fine explaining this verse. Angels have never in scripture, or other wise, had sexual relations...
  • KK on Genesis 6 - 14 years ago
    Love this Chapter. Not only did the angels find a way to produce a hybrid being, they taught humans heavenly secrets and understandings. Fallen angels didn't account for humans being just that, Human and that God's word was, is and always shall be. It will be and be and be. Then include you through grace and be some more. Anyhow, Part angel part human, where do they go when you die? Nowhere! Confined to the earth where they will hunger, thirst and have no rest. Demons. We know what's up. We don't know the behind the scenes part of the story. What really went down that would cause there to be room in heaven and that evil should try and prevent any one human at all, from getting there?
  • Joe on Genesis 6:2 - 14 years ago
    I don't know ,but I think the angels do they are masculine in gender, but they are sexless, how could it they be married with human? I need to study more about these verse.
  • Butch on Genesis 6:4 - 14 years ago
    this passage speaks of the giants born of the unholy union of fallen angels and human women. "in the earth in those days, and after that" means that before the Flood, these beings were rampant on the earth. after the Flood destroyed them however, it sounds like there was ANOTHER incursion to earth by fallen angels and again they sired these evil deformed giants that were an abomination in the eyes of God. "mighty men which were of old, men of reknown" is NOT a compliment. its meant to convey the giants strength and their pride in their strength.

    ralph, dinosaurs are mentioned in other passages (leviathan and behemoth) in the Bible but this passage is about the Nephilim, the fallen ones, that the fallen angels sired.
  • Butch on Genesis 6:2 - 14 years ago
    good old wesley has the translation all wrong. there are no "sons of seth" or "daughters of cain". the sons of God are fallen angels who forsook their heavenly estate and had sex w/ human women, producing evil, deformed giants. this was an abomination in the eyes of God and was one of the reasons God destroyed the earth w/ the flood because the fallen angels had corrupted the human bloodline.
  • Ben weaver on Genesis 6:4 - 14 years ago
    response to Brian C Lee; For the latest in God's solution for people in trouble, I recommend reading in the New Testament. For starters, maybe John 3, Romans 8, & 1 Jn 1:9. These promises are sure for anyone who yields to Jesus; trusting in Him. The wonderful plan is fortold throughout the Old Testament, but harder to understand. May our Lord direct you to his goodness. love ya.
  • Brion c lee on Genesis 6 - 14 years ago
    my dad is lucifer so i definately beleive in angels having sex with humans. but just because i am his son doesnt mean im evil. i too would like to know the truth about the giants and mighty men and what they are really up to. all i know so far is i feel like a body that has been born to be harvested. let it not be so,Oh LORD please strive with me i will listen save me from these evil sons who betrayed you long ago and know torture us and our friends our mother earth and her precious blood , Oh LORD forgive me for i know not what ive done.
  • Wayne Wright on Isaiah 53:10 - 14 years ago
    How long did he live???? Who is mentioned in Genesis 6:3 and 4?
  • Michael Perry on Genesis 6 - 14 years ago
    @Daniel Brown

    No, I'm not Mormon. I've never read the book of Jasher. My beliefs are not Mormon. The only church I've ever been associated with is the Seventh Day Adventist church, of which I am no longer in association with.

    This will be the final time I post here, and I truly mean this. The only reason I came back is because GOD gave me one last argument to present before I left this page for good. I felt obligated to present it to you because I care about Him, His word, and whether or not it is being represented correctly.

    "The Sons of GOD" are not angels. Firstly, without your book of Enoch, there isn't any proof of this. One cross reference to Enoch in the book of Jude isn't enough to prove that the book of Enoch isn't a false book.

    Secondly, I would like to direct you to John 1:12, which reads: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" KJV

    Right there, in that verse, the sons of God are those who believe in Him. Just as I said from the beginning. Seth's bloodline were those who believed in GOD and stayed true to His word.

    Still not convinced? After all, you might argue that humans become angels and therefore "sons of God" could still be referring to angels. This is a very common belief amongst Christians. I would like to tell you that this is also incorrect.

    Take a look at Hebrews 1:13&14 KJV - "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right
    hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"

    In this text, Angels are described as spirits that were sent to minister for the heirs of salvation. The heirs of salvation are those who believe in Jesus Christ and are saved by Him. So if Angels are spirits that minister to the saved, then the saved can't be the same as Angels! Therefore, the humans becoming angels argument gets thrown out the window.

    The Sons of GOD are those who believe in the LORD. Pure and simple. I'll take what the Bible says over ridiculous conspiracy theory that has absolutely no backing whatsoever other than a book of questionable authority and a few Bible verses taken out of context any day of the week.
  • RALPH M. WATERS on Genesis 6:4 - 14 years ago
    Once again, dealing with a twenty four hour day. This passage allow room to understand that DINOSAURS existed. (There were giants in the earth in those days;)and men of renown. A separation between DINOSAURS AND ANGELS.
    Therefore, this shows the times of the Prehistoric Age.
  • Donna on 1 John 3 - 14 years ago
    WOW! That is so awesomely beautiful how the Lord Jesus made Himself known One on one to you in those 14 seconds. No, there's no reincarnation of mankind, as far as any of us having lived prior to this life.

    There are devils; evil spirits; evil angels, who WERE God's angels, and thus 'sons of God,' who, along with Lucifer (now Satan,) turned from God, and fell from Heaven, and had sexual relations with some of the women of mankind, which women therefore had children by those devils.

    While one may say that those children were half human; mankind, and half-devil, that's not the case. As, the ONLY thing human; mankind, about them would be their 'fleshly bodies.' Inside those bodies were NOT any SOULS, but evil spirits; devils. And God's Word referes to those devils as 'men of renown,' because they lived prior to being born into human bodies.


    Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of RENOWN.


    But I can understand why you would feel like you were one of the apostles, because once you received Jesus Christ, you became a member of 'the FAMILY OF JESUS CHRIST.' We cannot help from feeling like we KNOW one another, and as if we've known one another all our lives. It's the Spirit of God that's in each of us. You were not personally there back in the days of the apostles. But the Lord God Who is IN you, and Whom you are IN, was there. And your spirit is joined with Him; with the Spirit of God.

    As a matter of fact, since you are filled with the Holy Ghost; the Spirit of God, you KNOW ALL THINGS in your heart. You, and I, and all those filled with His Spirit, just don't UNDERSTAND all those things. But our hearts KNOW. That's why when we hear, or read, the truth, it bears witness in our hearts, we KNOW it's true, even if we can't understand why, or how, it's true, etc..


    1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

    1 Corinthians 6:19
    What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


    1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    EPHESIANS 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

    2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

    3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

    4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

    5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

    6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

    8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
    9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

    10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

    11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

    12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

    13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.

    14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

    15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

    16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

    17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

    18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

    19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

    21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end.
    Amen.


    HEBREWS 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

    19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
    20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

    21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

    22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

    23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

    24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

    25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

    26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
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    Almighty God has such a special and great purpose
    for your book! He foresees what's coming. As, He is getting ready to shake this world like never before, to make one last MIGHTY CALL unto mankind to ESCAPE the Great Tribulation. And even though the Great Tribulation is not the worst thing, as God's WRATH TO COME thereafter is worse than that, and the worse of all is ETERNAL DAMNATION, still, the Great Tribulation is going to be horrible, because no one will be upon earth that has the Spirit of God in him, or her. All those that have His Spirit are, altogether, His BODY of people, to Whom He is their Head, and are all us that have received Him; Christ, our Head, and serve Him, and will all be drawn up to meet Him in the air before the Great Tribulation takes place.
    The Great Tribulation is a time when everyone that believes God, and His Son, are real, and that they SHOULD HAVE received Christ, and repented of sin, and desired to obey Him, will WISH THEY HAD NOT PUT HIM OFF. Because they will then see JUST HOW very wicked this world is, that it is NOT for them, and that all that time they spent serving the world just to please themselves was NOT WORTH IT.
    God will use that time to let the eyes of many be opened, and let them seek Him, and find Him, but they will end up having be beheaded; lose their lives, as far as physically, in order to make it to be with Him.
    I see it like this, had they been serving their TRUE Head, Christ, they would not have had to lose their own physical head.

    But they will gladly do so, knowing that they will rise up to heaven instantly.

    But during the Great Tribulation, prior to those that repent of their sins before God being beheaded, God will greatly use them to tell, and teach, others about Him, those that never received Him before. There's a scripture in the Old Testament that, speaking of that time, says 'Do not go to them, let them come to you.'

    In other words, the Lord, using His angels, will be helping His people HIDE OUT from wicked people trying to find and kill them. When it is time for them to die, GOD Himself will decide that, and not the devil.

    But prior to the Great Tribulation, again, the Lord is ready to make one last mighty call unto mankind. It's already started, as people are getting frantic, uncertain, and very uncomfortable, with the way the world seems to be getting by with mocking, and insulting, the Lord God; the Lord Jesus. People, even those that have refused to receive Him, are so like a bunch of kids. While little kids want their way, and like to try to get by with wrong things, I've always noticed how, regardless of how they may try, they would feel betrayed, unloved, and abondoned, if no one cared enough about them to NOT LET THEM get by. There's something about knowing someone cares enough about you to scold you, and try discourage you from wrong, even if you want to do the wrong.

    And what I have seen lately are people who, even though they have not received the Lord, and repented of their sins, they are very disturbed at it seeming as if the Lord God Whom they KNOW is true, even though they have not yet received His Christ; His Word; His only begotten Son, is seeming not very powerful, or why would He let the world get by with all the evil onslaughts, and all the speaking as if they have the right to SILENCE His people.

    The Lord is merely allowing it temporarily, for His own reasons, His own purpose, His own glory, and to the TOTAL SURPRISE of the wicked. He is now letting; incouraging, all those that want to choose the side of Satan, to go ahead and do so, and be as bold as they can be about it (for now.) It's call 'separating the sheep from the goats; the tares from the wheat.' He is letting everyone TAKE THEIR STANCE.

    But BEFORE He calls; draws, His people in whom all is His Spirit, up to meet Him in the air, things are going to happen, earthquakes like never before, whirlwinds; hurricanes, floods, etc., fires, that are going to destroy (not KILL) all those that have not received Him, and those that have that have been walking in sin against Him, devasting them more than they ever imagined could happen. And WE will be the only ones safe and sound, and shining like LIGHTS unto all that WILL run to us to hear about the Lord our God Who's Spirit is IN US, and Who's POWER we have working in and through us.

    Once, during that time, all will hear that will hear, and receive Him, which the Lord will give a certain amount of time, He will then draw us, and all those that are newly born of Him, up to meet Him in the air.

    And THEN the Anti-Christ; Satan, will sit and decare his ugly liar self as God.

    I want to tell you something the Lord told me; gave me, sort of like a poem, about 4 years ago, when He began showing me these things. But I need to get to sleep. I will write more tomoro. Love in Christ Jesus,
    Donna
  • Matthew on Genesis 6 - 14 years ago
    Fallen angels, refer to as sons of God in verse 2&4, did leave their original habitation and took woman they choose and had children with them. These children became giants in the earth, the same became mighty men which (were) of old, men of renown.The thinking and deeds of man were evil and violence, and God repented that he created man.God stated that His spirit will not always strive with man, because of there flesh.Noah walked with God and was saved along with sons and their wives from the flood that destroyed man on the earth.The rainbow we see today represents God covernant with man, that He will not destroyed the earth again with a flood. Praise be to God.


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