5 chapters in and I am having alot of trouble seeing how anybody can take this literally. 900 years people lived in the bronze age? I'll keep reading. But I have alot of questions about the validity of these verses. I ask again if a literal interpretation is correct.
On watching "Easy Rider" a friend of mine commented on what a reactionary country America obviously was in the late 1960s. I could only smile: some people seem rather sweetly and naively to confuse stories with reality. Good stories help us to understand reality - in English, however, "story" and "history" are two different words.
Cain was not the son of Adam. The serpent beguiled Eve. He was not a snake slithering on the ground, he was an upright, man-like creation. It was only after God cursed him that he became a snake- upon thy belly thou shalt go- Before he was cursed he was able to converse with Eve- Thou shalt surely NOT die- Eve had a sexual relationship with this not-quite-human creation and conceived Cain. After this act she had a relationship with Adam and conceived Abel. Twins were in her womb,but they had different fathers-not biologically impossible, as long as the 2 conceptions were very close together. Eve bares Cain and says I have gotten a man from the Lord. All life comes from God, whether that life is God's son or not. Cain had his father's nature from the beginning. His sacrifice was not pleasing to God and he became wroth. Abel was Adam's son and had a sacrifice which pleased God. In the meantime, Adam and Eve were having other children, the Bible does not say how old Cain was when he murdered his brother. So Cain marries one of his sisters and goes off from his parents. His offspring have his nature- the sons of men-, but Seth, the replacement for Abel, has Adam's nature- the son of God. But in the course of time, the sons of God looked upon the daughters of men, and the rest is history, the bloodlines becoming mixed. Not demons falling to earth and having sex with women, sorry. Read what the Bible says and don't put your own slant on it. Even Christ told the Pharisees- you are of your father the devil, to which they respond- we are not of that wicked one. It was Satan inspiring the serpent, who was so close to human that he could interbreed with them, that brought sin.
I don't know how people are getting that Cain is not Adams son when prior scripture says 'Adam knew Eve and they bore Cain and then she bare Abel '...which seems to be saying they are twins because it doesn't speak of him 'knowing'her again ...thoughts please ....
@mike A day to god is something of a thousand years to us. Going back to genesis 2:17
he says, "....for in [the day] that you eat it you will surely die."
now go to to genesis 5:5 "And all the years that Adam lived were [nine hundred and thirty years]: and he died."
He didn't live to complete the day in God's eyes, which is thought to be one thousand years or a millennium. So fundamentally speaking, its been [two days] since Jesus died, in god's eyes that is.
You said "The sons of God spoken of are ones who were after the lineage of Seth, worshippers of God not self!" From what scripture did you read that? I would like to know, because I didn't see anything about that and if I missed out on something I would like to know.
the fact that cain is NEVER included in Adam`s family Chronology is correct. In the bible, after cain runs off to nod and gets married, it reveals his family tree. Then in a totally separate chapter, the bible lists Adam's family Tree. Cain is NEVER mentioned as Adam's son as far as I can tell. That alone shows that Cain is NOT Adam's son. So Cain can only be Satan's seed/son.
Satan was trying to sabatoge and stop the blood line of Christ to come. Satan's attempted to stop the bloodline again by allowing fallen angels to impregnate the women and having hybrids (giants/superpowers/etc.) God chose Noah's family because they were in Adam's geneology and were still pure. That's what the flood was about, to get rid of the hybrids and God promised to never flood the earth like that again. God reminds of of this promise frequently. The Rainbow after it rains is the reminder.
I know some people think how could satan or the fallen angels have sex with human women. Well they were deceitful. They did what ever it took to sleep with the women. They appeared as attractive men and propose themselves as whatever it was that was going to get them in the women's "pants"
Just a few things to keep in mind while reading the bible. It's there, just read it for what it is. Especially about Cain not being in Adam's Chronology. He is NOT Adam's son.
The notion that Satan had sex with Eve is ridiculous. angels and demons were created as heavenly beings. No where in Scripture are we given any inclination that heavenly beings have reproductive organs or sex drives. But we are told that in heaven there is no one married or given in marriage. So to think that Cain was of the seed of the devil is ridiculous. To think that the sons of God in Genesis that were spoken of in Noah's day were fallen angels is once again built upon a crumbly foundation. The sons of God spoken of are ones who were after the lineage of Seth, worshippers of God not self! They did backslide and committed fornication with women.
Up to this point you can see how CAIN and ABEL was spoken of with no daughters involvement. NOW you see sons and daughters. It would be foolish to think only CAIN and ABEL was the only ones conceived by ADAM and EVE.
The way I read the Word from what happened in the garden with Eve and the devil starts out with the exhaustive concordance Greek #1818 wholly seduced which I feel it was more than just a lie. Then,The figs hiding their private parts, them just being naked wouldn't of matter but them having sex with their bodies and being naked would matter after sex and then the sons of cain showing up as kenites and the fact that cain wasn`t included in Adam`s family Chronology and then what Paul says in 11Corinthians 11:2 and 3. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:for I have espoused you (Espouse you) to one husband,that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear,lest by any means,as the serpent beguiled #1818 Eve through his subtilry,so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. Now satan was trying to block and stop the blood line of Christ to come. With Christ saving the living ,Eve then would be theEve; because she was the mother of all living. Through Christ are the living saved, that Blood of His saves us. Nope! Not just a lie in my book that happened in the garden, its much deeper. That event ( sex) is what occured in my book. But when I get home I`ll check all the verses that gives reason and the word beguile is also translated cheat and deceived but. I think when I do look it up to check either #538 #1537 or 1818 is motion in action? Not sure but it is wholly seduce and that's sex and the rest of the story and purpose intended of the results of satan being able to destroy the blood line. Sending his angels down to take woman,have giants missfits and Noah`s family having not messed (sex) with the fallen angels and was the only one to still have perfect blood line that Christ could come through.
let us look at beguile notice in Gen. 29:25, Num. 25:18 , Josh9:22, 2Cor. 11:1-5,Col.2:4-18 and in Noah Webster 1828 " beguile to deceive; to impose on by artifice or craft. So the father of lies John 8;44-51 will be over come by the Father of Truth or the Son of Truth, The Truth John14;1-6.
In Gen. 3:4&5 that crafty lier and so it's all about The devil's lies. Gen 4 Adam knew his wife Eve (they had sex then came Cain.)
In 1Sam. 1:19&20 Elkanah knew his wife Hannah (they had sex they had a son.)and in Matt1:24&25
Joseph did not have sex with Marry until Jesus was born Matt 1:23. The devil did not have sex (knew)
Eve. The devil lied to her. 1Peter 1:23.
Gen 4 Adam knew his wife Eve .....Cain was born,
the humanistic line. IN 5 WE have a line that seeks
after God. Gen. 5:24 Enoch walked with God. As in Gen 6:9 Noah walked with God. Just think about the promise of Gen. 3:15 the virgin born Son of God.
Remember in Gen. 4:4 ,what did Abel bring? Thank
God for 1John 1:7 , John 1:9. Heb 13:11-12 and Heb 9;7-14 Then Enoch, Gen 5:24 and 1Thessalonians 4:13-18 especially 4:17 Hope everyone who reads this is ready 2Cor. 13:5, John 3:16 and Rom. 10:9&10.
Cain came from the tree of good and evil that old serpent the devil. Satan was good then turned evil. He beguiled eve, seduced her/sex. That's the fruit they were not to take. We must remember they didn't put fig leives over their mouths from eating apple`s, They put fig leives around their private parts. The word ' again" if I remember correct and in Hebrew is continued in labor and had Able. Children were two unidentical twins. Two different dads. Adams was able and satan had cain. Must remember when Adam partook satan can transform himself, disquise himself. So he could look female to Adam. The devil wanted to destroy the coming of Christ from the vvery beginning. Now my own opinion of the trinity. God said let us creat man in OUR image. That is an exact signant, or seal like exact look alike. I think of the Gospel of John. Jesus is the Word and the Word is God and Jesus created everything. So, when He sits on the throne in His Spirit He is God and His Holy Spirit has a far reach. When He Was in the flesh and died for our sins because He loves us and wanted us to make it back home to Him,He was the son of man, the Son of God. He didn't come right out and say, I'm God standing here, but when He kept asking the discipels He keep saying, who do you think I AM. I AM, I AM, We ask through Jesus Name to show that we believe He died on the cross for us. The Father is inside of Him and He sends the Holy Spirit, and He is the Holy Spirit. I think with all that He Has told me, Christ is God and Father insideand then I wonder His real size when He says, saying. The earth is His seat and the moon His foot stool, that in His life, or if we wanted to say, in His world, or time, if He stood up He would be, what? 1 million miles standing high. Don't know? But God is Big! And everything you think even with 12 billion souls, HE KNOWS! I think if he wanted more children He could of taken care of another 10 earths filled with them. Truth. Like I've said before, once you really love and trust Him, He will show you someway or another and you will say Thank You Father!
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How does that explain the Trinity? (1) I could easily turn on the light myself, needing no other form. (2) My son could easily decide without my telling him that the light should be turned on, needing no other direction. In your example, either of us alone would have created the same light-filled room.
Dear Zinnia,
The word trinity mean the unity of 3.And we can see, in Gen.1 the bible talked of God creating the heavens and the earth, and the spirit of God moving over the face of the earth without form.
If you go to Gen.2 fron vs7, you will find that the bible talked of the Lord God.
Now these 3 God heads cannot work in isolation, they cannot function with the other and as such, they complement each other.
For example, if you come into your house at night with your child and the light is off,you decide to ask your child to switch on the light, the child goes to the wall and turn on the light and the light will then come.
We will assume that you are God the father giving the word, your child is Jesus Christ who will switch the light on from the sucket, the electricity the powered the light to light is the Holy spirit.
God gave the word to Jesus Christ to bring to manifestation, the Power that Jesus uses to bring it to manifestation is the holy spirit. I hope this explains to your understanding. God bless.
@Stanley Abercrombie>> The word "TRINITY" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Can you please explain that why should we believe that there are THREE GOD HEADS?
I think that God did great works, he did everything that he promised and Capter 5 was more of God Annointed plan. God is the greatest creator of the Universe! There are 3 God heads, Go The Father, God The Son, and Go The Holy Ghost! We need to take time out and realize what kind of plans that God has for our lifes!!!! God sent his son Jesus to die on the cross for our sins so we can have a free life and live that life more abundantly through him! That's all I have to say.
It's funny to notice the two Lamech in the book of Genesis.
The Lamech in chapter 4:18 was the first to commit two dealy sins after his ascestrial father Cian.
He was the first to break the Law of Marriage and he also killed like his grand father Cain.
Now the second Lamech in chapter 5:28 which happen to be from the line of the promised seed, has a great grand father who loved God so much that he was translated and ended up having a grand child that was to bring comfort to his generation.
this two areas made me to believe that evil can flow through linage just as good can flow through linage from generation to generation
he says, "....for in [the day] that you eat it you will surely die."
now go to to genesis 5:5 "And all the years that Adam lived were [nine hundred and thirty years]: and he died."
He didn't live to complete the day in God's eyes, which is thought to be one thousand years or a millennium. So fundamentally speaking, its been [two days] since Jesus died, in god's eyes that is.
You said "The sons of God spoken of are ones who were after the lineage of Seth, worshippers of God not self!" From what scripture did you read that? I would like to know, because I didn't see anything about that and if I missed out on something I would like to know.
the fact that cain is NEVER included in Adam`s family Chronology is correct. In the bible, after cain runs off to nod and gets married, it reveals his family tree. Then in a totally separate chapter, the bible lists Adam's family Tree. Cain is NEVER mentioned as Adam's son as far as I can tell. That alone shows that Cain is NOT Adam's son. So Cain can only be Satan's seed/son.
Satan was trying to sabatoge and stop the blood line of Christ to come. Satan's attempted to stop the bloodline again by allowing fallen angels to impregnate the women and having hybrids (giants/superpowers/etc.) God chose Noah's family because they were in Adam's geneology and were still pure. That's what the flood was about, to get rid of the hybrids and God promised to never flood the earth like that again. God reminds of of this promise frequently. The Rainbow after it rains is the reminder.
I know some people think how could satan or the fallen angels have sex with human women. Well they were deceitful. They did what ever it took to sleep with the women. They appeared as attractive men and propose themselves as whatever it was that was going to get them in the women's "pants"
Just a few things to keep in mind while reading the bible. It's there, just read it for what it is. Especially about Cain not being in Adam's Chronology. He is NOT Adam's son.
Num. 25:18 , Josh9:22, 2Cor. 11:1-5,Col.2:4-18 and in Noah Webster 1828 " beguile to deceive; to impose on by artifice or craft. So the father of lies
John 8;44-51 will be over come by the Father of Truth or the Son of Truth, The Truth John14;1-6.
In Gen. 3:4&5 that crafty lier and so it's all about The devil's lies. Gen 4 Adam knew his wife Eve (they had sex then came Cain.)
In 1Sam. 1:19&20 Elkanah knew his wife Hannah (they had sex they had a son.)and in Matt1:24&25
Joseph did not have sex with Marry until Jesus was born Matt 1:23. The devil did not have sex (knew)
Eve. The devil lied to her. 1Peter 1:23.
the humanistic line. IN 5 WE have a line that seeks
after God. Gen. 5:24 Enoch walked with God. As in
Gen 6:9 Noah walked with God. Just think about the promise of Gen. 3:15 the virgin born Son of God.
Remember in Gen. 4:4 ,what did Abel bring? Thank
God for 1John 1:7 , John 1:9. Heb 13:11-12 and
Heb 9;7-14 Then Enoch, Gen 5:24 and 1Thessalonians 4:13-18 especially 4:17 Hope everyone who reads this is ready 2Cor. 13:5,
John 3:16 and Rom. 10:9&10.
How does that explain the Trinity? (1) I could easily turn on the light myself, needing no other form. (2) My son could easily decide without my telling him that the light should be turned on, needing no other direction. In your example, either of us alone would have created the same light-filled room.
I don't understand was Adam the father of Cain and Able or not in for it olny discloses that Adam had Seth what happened to Cain An Able
The word trinity mean the unity of 3.And we can see, in Gen.1 the bible talked of God creating the heavens and the earth, and the spirit of God moving over the face of the earth without form.
If you go to Gen.2 fron vs7, you will find that the bible talked of the Lord God.
Now these 3 God heads cannot work in isolation, they cannot function with the other and as such, they complement each other.
For example, if you come into your house at night with your child and the light is off,you decide to ask your child to switch on the light, the child goes to the wall and turn on the light and the light will then come.
We will assume that you are God the father giving the word, your child is Jesus Christ who will switch the light on from the sucket, the electricity the powered the light to light is the Holy spirit.
God gave the word to Jesus Christ to bring to manifestation, the Power that Jesus uses to bring it to manifestation is the holy spirit. I hope this explains to your understanding. God bless.
The Lamech in chapter 4:18 was the first to commit two dealy sins after his ascestrial father Cian.
He was the first to break the Law of Marriage and he also killed like his grand father Cain.
Now the second Lamech in chapter 5:28 which happen to be from the line of the promised seed, has a great grand father who loved God so much that he was translated and ended up having a grand child that was to bring comfort to his generation.
this two areas made me to believe that evil can flow through linage just as good can flow through linage from generation to generation