Can we then resurrect that 'dead' sin nature? Does it even still exist? Sadly, until we get to Heaven, our sin nature will always remain in us, but the victory lies in how we deal with it & how we deal with Satan who appeals to that nature. Can we resurrect that nature? Every time we listen to Satan, we are resurrecting that nature. Every time we listen to God, we are keeping that nature 'in death' & living in the Spirit. And this was the struggle that was with Paul as he wanted to live in the Spirit, but Satan kept attacking him in his old nature.
So, Joan, the struggle will always continue while we're here on Earth, but Christ gives us the victory. What can you do? You have already pleaded with God for release from your bondage - God hears your cries. Has He put anything else on your heart? I don't know your story, but the Spirit of God is there for you to give it all to Him & to give you victory. If your mind is afflicted, then set your mind on wholesome, spiritual things that are found in God's Word. If it is a lust for something, then turn away from that temptation or remove it from your view altogether & turn to God in prayer & in His Word. When you resist Satan, he will flee ( James 4:7) because He knows that you are calling upon the Power of God against him. This is not just theoretical, but very practical as we stand against the wiles of the devil. Talk to the Lord often, wherever you are & in whatever you're doing & when Satan is near to tempt you, run to the Lord Who is listening for your call. And remember, your stand against the enemy can only be done in the Spirit's Power & not in your own strength.
Joan, Romans 7 is one of those very personal, intimate revelations Paul gave of his life: his battle between the spirit & the flesh. He could have easily avoided mentioning his struggle & given his readers the impression that he was a great follower of Christ, enjoying daily victory over every sin. But, being led of the Spirit, he had to confess that his apostleship, his meeting with Christ & even his vision of the glory of Heaven, were not enough to raise him to any greater position than we are at today. In fact, he said that he was "given a thorn in the flesh" ( 2 Cor 12:7) to keep him humble so those privileges wouldn't 'go to his head'.
So in Romans 7, Paul speaks of his battle in the spirit. He longed to please God in every area of his life, but evil (i.e. the working of the body of sin) was always present with him. And so he struggled, but he found that through all this, that only Jesus Christ could help & deliver him. How so? Two ways: by virtue of Christ's death, Paul & all who believe on Jesus, have their sins dealt with at the Cross. In other words, Satan can no more accuse us before God. And secondly, through Jesus alone, could Paul & us find victory over the flesh. Even though Satan will always niggle at us to make us sin, Christ gives us the power to withstand Satan & the appeals of the flesh. In fact, Paul speaks in Gal 2:20 that he is now crucified with Christ & in Rom 6:6, he tells us that our 'old man' (our old nature) was crucified at the Cross. And if that is the case, we are to reckon ourselves dead to sin & now alive to God through Jesus ( Rom 6:11). (onto Page 2.)
Joan, Romans 7 is one of those very personal, intimate revelations Paul gave of his life: his battle between the spirit & the flesh. He could have easily avoided mentioning his struggle & given his readers the impression that he was a great follower of Christ, enjoying daily victory over every sin. But, being led of the Spirit, he had to confess that his apostleship, his meeting with Christ & even his vision of the glory of Heaven, were not enough to raise him to any greater position than we are at today. In fact, he said that he was "given a thorn in the flesh" ( 2 Cor 12:7) to keep him humble so those privileges wouldn't 'go to his head'.
So in Romans 7, Paul speaks of his battle in the spirit. He longed to please God in every area of his life, but evil (i.e. the working of the body of sin) was always present with him. And so he struggled, but he found that through all this, that only Jesus Christ could help & deliver him. How so? Two ways: by virtue of Christ's death, Paul & all who believe on Jesus, have their sins dealt with at the Cross. In other words, Satan can no more accuse us before God. And secondly, through Jesus alone, could Paul & us find victory over the flesh. Even though Satan will always niggle at us to make us sin, Christ gives us the power to withstand Satan & the appeals of the flesh. In fact, Paul speaks in Gal 2:20 that he is now crucified with Christ & in Rom 6:6, he tells us that our 'old man' (our old nature) was crucified at the Cross. And if that is the case, we are to reckon ourselves dead to sin & now alive to God through Jesus ( Rom 6:11). (onto Page 2).
When Paul talked about doing the things he didn't want to and not doing the things he wanted to
He said oh wretched man that I am. Who can set me free? Then thanked for Jesus, the one that can. I have prayed daily for this and ponder and wonder why i am still in bondage knowing it is not His will.
J Dixon I would be careful in what you claim about Ishmael since he is a son of Abraham.
in Genesis 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation. The Lord himself said he would make of him a great nation. There are around 200 - 300 million Arabs in the world and looks like the Lord kept his promise to Ishmael.
There is less than 15 million Jews in the world per the Jewish almanac. So who is blessed of the Lord and a great nation? Looks to me that the Lord kept his promise to Ishmael. I am no fan of Islam and know it is a false theology as is Judaism that also rejects the Lord Jesus as messiah or Christ.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED? Just curious is all.
It is true the the Arabic nation came from Ishmael but neither he or Hagar were terrorists . Hagar was the property of Sarah and had no free will, she obeyed her owner. Ishmael was a boy teasing as boys do . God had mercy on them because of this . The Arabic nation may not have existed but for the actions of Abraham and Sarah. This story is a warning to Christians the importance of waiting on God
Muslims are a cult and not of God at all. They even reject his name and his son and the holy ghost. They follow a pedophile who did nothing but spew hate. The punishment of Hagar and Ishmael was more than just and very much too lenient.
I have read over again and have had another thought to this. The Promise to Abraham and to his seed was that through Christ they would inherit the world; "..and in thee shall all Nations of the earth be blessed." As Hagar was the property of Sarah, so then was the son that Hagar bore to Abraham. It pronounced that in Isaac would the seed be called; and so Abraham sent away all his other sons.
Jean; about Sarah giving her maid to her husband; it was evidently understood that if a bondwoman bore children of her master, then the children would be her master's, and not hers. So by those standards Hagar's son was by tradition and law of the land Sarah's son; because she owned the maid servant, and whatever she had was the property of her mistress and master. I'm glad we don't do that today!
Jean (cont.); You wrote, "..a Muslim asked me to justify what took place in Genesis 21." The keyword is Just! What was just about despising her mistress? What was just about mocking Isaac? What is just about arrogantly rejoicing over someone else's unhappiness and trial, and hatefully mocking at their joys? The LORD said that Ishmael would be a mongrel and a terror to everyone and it sure is true!
Jean (cont.); As far as Sarah's treatment of her maid-servant; Hagar behaved wickedly toward her Mistress in despising her and mocking her. I don't feel a bit sorry for wicked women with UGLY mocking mouths against their BETTERS; and the fact that she was pregnant was why the Angel was sent to tell her to go back and submit to her Mistress. When they have children that are the same; GOOD RIDDANCE!
Jean; Tell your friend, first of all about Hagar: that in ancient times it was normal and acceptable to have household servants; either hired or owned; for many practical reasons. It didn't necessarily imply oppression or cruelty as it would today. Many times it was because someone had nothing to pay his debt but with his life in service to the one he owed. Maybe Pharaoh gave her to Sarah? Gen. 12
Today a Muslim asked me to justify what took place in Genesis 21.
1. Sarah offering the maidservant to her husband.
2. And later throwing Hagar out when she was pregnant and then again after Ishmael was born.
Please help me to answer this Muslim friend.
End of Day 7 of Reading the Bible in a Year. God shows mercy to Hagar as she is run off by by Sarah. God is fulfilling part of His promise to Abraham concerning the number and importance of Abraham's "seed" but the culmination and exaltation of the promise will be fulfilled through Isaac.
God word is unchangeable, what ever he promised he will do .Isaac was born to Abraham and Sarah at the appointed time God stand by his word to perform it . although Sarah try to help God by using her maid God still gave the promise of the covenant child.Thank God for his mercy that he didn't destroy Abemlech's house hold for Abraham saying Sarah is his sister but God made a way of escap
We know that whatsoever GOD does is ALWAYS well done, HE never makes mistakes. GOD had a plan "To have a nation for Himself through Abraham" in ch 17:1-8 GOD came to Abraham and made him a promise, v.19. Even though we make mistakes, GOD will not change HIS plan for HIS glory... Abraham laughed as well 17:17... we just accept the will of GOD, understand it or not. May HE bless us, we need it.
When Sara tells Abraha to send Hagar and her son away,it was very grieving for Abraham but he was obedient to thLord and he trusted Him also and did as the Lord told him. Sounds harsh, but the Lord knows everything even the future. Even though Sara didn't trust the Lord or in conceiving a child and gave her maid to Abraham, the Lord honoured her request. Does this make sense in my last sentence?
in the modern knowledge the child produce vitamin K in five to seven days, to circumcize must be eight days to prevent hemorrage. bible written 3600 years ago, no human being knows it 3000 yrs ago. comes from superior to man, somebody powerful and mighty.
If God gives you covenant a.ka a promise he will do it. He is a God that shall not lie when wejjump the gun and do it our way sin will be your face and then you have to remove it and people can be hurt by it
Evangelist Chatauna Robinson on Genesis 21 - 10 years ago
Hello Kofi Peprah If I can say it like this, after Sarai gave the handmaid to Abram and the handmaid discovered she had conceived, Sarai stated that she was despised in her handmaid eyes. Sarai also knew she was wrong for what she had done by giving her handmaid to her husband, Genesis 16 5. She did not take God at his word. Sometimes people do this today they do not believe God s word. Then after this God renewed his covenant with Abram and changed both his name and Sarai names to Abraham and Sarah and she bared him a son, Genesis 17 10 thru 21. Perhaps Sarah, still being filled with guilt of what she had done could not bare the mocking 's of a child and his mother. Simply put Sarah did not want Ismael heir with her son, Genesis 21 9 thru 13. So she had Abraham cast out Hagar and her son.
Ismeal was teasing sarah for given birth at her old age which was not sarah 's fault .normally children born at old age are not strong as children born at youthful age.probably hagar told ismeal that and he used it against sarah and her son isaac
Can we then resurrect that 'dead' sin nature? Does it even still exist? Sadly, until we get to Heaven, our sin nature will always remain in us, but the victory lies in how we deal with it & how we deal with Satan who appeals to that nature. Can we resurrect that nature? Every time we listen to Satan, we are resurrecting that nature. Every time we listen to God, we are keeping that nature 'in death' & living in the Spirit. And this was the struggle that was with Paul as he wanted to live in the Spirit, but Satan kept attacking him in his old nature.
So, Joan, the struggle will always continue while we're here on Earth, but Christ gives us the victory. What can you do? You have already pleaded with God for release from your bondage - God hears your cries. Has He put anything else on your heart? I don't know your story, but the Spirit of God is there for you to give it all to Him & to give you victory. If your mind is afflicted, then set your mind on wholesome, spiritual things that are found in God's Word. If it is a lust for something, then turn away from that temptation or remove it from your view altogether & turn to God in prayer & in His Word. When you resist Satan, he will flee ( James 4:7) because He knows that you are calling upon the Power of God against him. This is not just theoretical, but very practical as we stand against the wiles of the devil. Talk to the Lord often, wherever you are & in whatever you're doing & when Satan is near to tempt you, run to the Lord Who is listening for your call. And remember, your stand against the enemy can only be done in the Spirit's Power & not in your own strength.
So in Romans 7, Paul speaks of his battle in the spirit. He longed to please God in every area of his life, but evil (i.e. the working of the body of sin) was always present with him. And so he struggled, but he found that through all this, that only Jesus Christ could help & deliver him. How so? Two ways: by virtue of Christ's death, Paul & all who believe on Jesus, have their sins dealt with at the Cross. In other words, Satan can no more accuse us before God. And secondly, through Jesus alone, could Paul & us find victory over the flesh. Even though Satan will always niggle at us to make us sin, Christ gives us the power to withstand Satan & the appeals of the flesh. In fact, Paul speaks in Gal 2:20 that he is now crucified with Christ & in Rom 6:6, he tells us that our 'old man' (our old nature) was crucified at the Cross. And if that is the case, we are to reckon ourselves dead to sin & now alive to God through Jesus ( Rom 6:11). (onto Page 2.)
So in Romans 7, Paul speaks of his battle in the spirit. He longed to please God in every area of his life, but evil (i.e. the working of the body of sin) was always present with him. And so he struggled, but he found that through all this, that only Jesus Christ could help & deliver him. How so? Two ways: by virtue of Christ's death, Paul & all who believe on Jesus, have their sins dealt with at the Cross. In other words, Satan can no more accuse us before God. And secondly, through Jesus alone, could Paul & us find victory over the flesh. Even though Satan will always niggle at us to make us sin, Christ gives us the power to withstand Satan & the appeals of the flesh. In fact, Paul speaks in Gal 2:20 that he is now crucified with Christ & in Rom 6:6, he tells us that our 'old man' (our old nature) was crucified at the Cross. And if that is the case, we are to reckon ourselves dead to sin & now alive to God through Jesus ( Rom 6:11). (onto Page 2).
He said oh wretched man that I am. Who can set me free? Then thanked for Jesus, the one that can. I have prayed daily for this and ponder and wonder why i am still in bondage knowing it is not His will.
in Genesis 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation. The Lord himself said he would make of him a great nation. There are around 200 - 300 million Arabs in the world and looks like the Lord kept his promise to Ishmael.
There is less than 15 million Jews in the world per the Jewish almanac. So who is blessed of the Lord and a great nation? Looks to me that the Lord kept his promise to Ishmael. I am no fan of Islam and know it is a false theology as is Judaism that also rejects the Lord Jesus as messiah or Christ.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED? Just curious is all.
1. Sarah offering the maidservant to her husband.
2. And later throwing Hagar out when she was pregnant and then again after Ishmael was born.
Please help me to answer this Muslim friend.