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  • Annie Hargett on Exodus 20 - 2 years ago
    What does Paul mean in Galatians 3:19 when he says the law was given by angels to Moses, when we read in Exodus that God gave Moses the 10 commandments? Is there not a contradiction as God spoke to Moses but Paul says the law was given by angels to Moses, the mediator?
  • Growing Up in Our Faith - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    It helps if you describe briefly what kind of warfare you're going through. It can be physical, mental or emotional or spirits.

    I went through the whole list. With Jesus inside of you, "they" know their time is over. Satan will accuse that you are not saved! That hurts but is not the Truth. I tell everyone to write the date of salvation in your Bible. "It is written!"

    LUKE 11:24-26

    Christ sends the evil spirits away. But if we neglect feeding on the Bible frequently; building up our most holy faith..

    The spirits may return: Luke 11:24-26 (the stronger man is Jesus 11:21). You must furnish yourself with Bible, Praise, and Assembling with the church folk)

    A reading list for you:

    Ephesians 6

    * Acts 19:19

    Galatians 3:13

    Luke 6:28

    Matthew 5:44

    Ephesians 2:13

    The angels are sent by God, so we can ask in prayer for their presence in our homes. Act on the promises of the Lord. God wants us to go on from being milk fed baby Christians, to stand up and be warriors of FAITH in ahi's Word.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Brother Giannis none of this section isn't directed towards you, and thank you for sharing.

    Galatians 6:16.

    Here's a verse that the replacement theologist often uses.

    They combine that with Romans 9:6 and off they go.

    Totally ignoring the surrounding scriptures and the context of the chapter, sometimes several chapters such as Romans Chs 9,10,11.

    Let's look at the Israel of God in Galatians and the false teachings of some.

    Here's the situation Paul is dealing with. Galatians 3:1-5.

    You have to include the previous verses to get the context.

    Galatians 6:12-16. Paul is talking about the Church, BUT what is often missed is he divides them into 2 groups.

    Vs. 15) For in Christ Jesus neither CIRCUMCISION availeth any thing, nor UNCIRCUMCISION, but a new creature.

    Vs,16) And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on "THEM," and mercy, and upon the "Israel of God."

    Notice THEM in verse 16, "Uncircumcised, Gentiles"

    The Israel of God, " Circumcised! Messianic Israelites". Children of the promise mentioned in

    Romans 9:8.

    So you see also in Romans 9:6, Paul is referring to those offspring of Abraham whether Ishmaelites, Arabian, Egyptian, or Israelites.

    And those of the Promise, The remnant,

    For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    Galatians 4:22-23.

    Here's the Context.

    For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

    Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

    Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Romans 9:3-5.

    You see if you put it in context it explains itself.

    You have to twist a lot of scripture to make these passages the Church.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Hi Giannis.

    Part 1

    As I promised I would get back to you on your reply and questioning.

    Let's start with the verses you gave as the promises that Israel forfeited over to the Church.

    1. Genesis 12:1-3,

    2. Genesis 12:7,

    3. Genesis 13:14-17,

    4. Genesis 15:5-7

    5. Genesis 15:13-15,

    6. Genesis 15:18-21,

    7. Genesis 17:4-10,

    8. Genesis 21:17-18

    You stated, "Abraham and his seed pass to Jesus and His children. and you say according to

    Galatians 3:16. Paul atributes these verses to Christ it is obvious that they are for Israel as well.

    Let's look at Galatians 3:14-17.

    If you notice in the link the promise/covenant was not a land covenant. Verses 2-8 you gave are all the land covenant.

    Did you notice in Genesis 15:15-17. God told Abraham he would die before they would enter the land?

    Look how Stephen put in Acts 7:4-5.

    "and is is after God performed the covenant!!" So when will he inherit it? Hebrews11:8-10.

    Now the 1st verse is a preview of both. The Promise his seed going to be given land. "Israel"

    ( and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. ) "Christ"

    This is the only portion associated with Galatians 3:16.

    Here is the covenant Paul is speaking of in Galatians.

    ( And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:

    That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; AND THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF "HIS" ENEMIES;

    And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. )

    Genesis 22:16-18.

    The Gospel was preached even before there was a law to be broken.

    Galatians 3:8.

    " Important verse"

    I removed "if it" because I believe it's in italics and shouldn't be there.

    ( Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet be confirmed, NO MAN DISANNULLETH, OR ADDETH THERETO.) Galatians 3:15.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Part 1.

    DearSpencer, lets talk about God's promises to Abraham.

    Lets go to Genesis. The verses that describe God's promises to Abraham are the following:

    1. Genesis 12:1-3,

    2. Genesis 12:7,

    3. Genesis 13:14-17,

    4. Genesis 15:5-7

    5. Genesis 15:13-15,

    6. Genesis 15:18-21,

    7. Genesis 17:4-10,

    8. Genesis 21:17-18

    Now in most of them God gives His promises to Abraham and his seed. Who is this seed. the obvious answer is that it is his biological descedants. Paul in his epistle to Galatians 3:16 disagrees, he says "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.". So we can agree that all the promises given to Abraham and his seed pass to Jesus and His children, Which are they? The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and the 8th. Only one is left the first. You will argue that although Paul atributes those verses to Christ it is obvious that they are for Israel as well, the land covenant as you call it. You are right about that. But that promise that Cannan will be given to Israel by God wasn't fulfiled when Joshua and his descendants conquered that land? Yes it was. So what other promise/covenant given to Abraham is left to be fulfiled? I cannot see any other, correct me if I am wrong. GBU
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Giannis.

    Again thanks for your reply.

    We're in agreement with the blessings of Abraham to all people by faith.

    But we are in disagreement that the keeping of the law binds those promises. Galatians 3:17 says otherwise.

    You mentioned Matthew 19:28.

    Now quoting you concerning judas.

    Your quote:

    "Remember that Jesus said to all 12 apostoles, including Judas, that they will sit on thrones to judge the 12 tribes of Israel. Did that come true for Judas? No, because Judas at the end walked another way. What is then happened to that promise given to Israel? It was gone as soon as they crucified Jesus and took some other way. God's promises are never unconditional,"

    End quote.

    Judas didn't catch Jesus by surprise and he was prophesied to betray Jesus in the old testament. And early on in John 6:70.

    Take a look at the verse you referred to.

    "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have FOLLOWED ME, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

    Several things here.

    Jesus sitting on his throne doesn't depend on his disciples following him. If so it wouldn't be still expected after Christ was crucified, as seen here in Acts 15:14-17. and elsewhere in scripture after the crucifixion.

    Jesus says That ye which have FOLLOWED ME. A desciple is one that follows one's teachings . Does that sound like Jesus?

    When were they sent out with the power and influence of the Holyspirit? After Jesus resurrection and after the death of Judas. Paul was born out of due season. There's your twelve.

    Concerning 1949. yes they're in the land but is Christ sitting on David's throne?

    They won't behold him as a nation until they say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord. And is the lion laying down with the Lamb? Is the devil chained a thousand years? None of the Millennium prophecies have been fulfilled. See Isaiah 65:19.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Jesse!

    God called out a Gentile and made a unconditional covenant with him and confirmed it with a Son. The Child of promise. And we're children of the same promise.

    It has nothing to do with Israel or any other people inability to keep the law. So why would God void his Promises to Israel and give those promises to another gathered people who cannot keep the law.

    See Galatians 3:17-18.

    And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

    For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

    Here is what's being challenged.

    Hebrews 6:13-19. Touching this unconditional covenant I believe you see it performed in a unconditional manner in Genesis 15. when God put Abraham to sleep and performed it by himself.

    We are joint heirs in that promise.

    " Galatians 4:28."

    Some lay it on Israel to initiate Gods promise or it will be taken away is in the same group that says you can loose your salvation.

    So the Church has not taken over the promises to Israel,

    The Church also is not spiritual Israel. And the Church is not the Israel of God.

    God fulfilled his promises of the first coming of Christ and he will fulfill the many promises of Christ second coming and set up His literal Millennium kingdom here on Earth.

    Thank you and God bless.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I think Galatians 3:29 is a very powerful verse. Please pay special attention to that " AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE". I think it is very obvious then...
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Giannis.

    Are we heirs of the promise? Yes.

    Are we as Issac children of promise? yes. These particular promises you are referring to in " Galatians 3:17." has nothing at all to do with " Replacement theology "

    Here we are talking about promises to the NATION OF ISRAEL

    All through the scripture God promised to restore "THE NATION OF ISRAEL." and set up a literal kingdom here on earth.

    Concerning Romans 9:6-8.

    vs 6, Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For "THEY are not all Israel, WHICH ARE "OF" ISRAEL:

    This verse doesn't include us Gentiles at all. At this particular junction. Paul is making a distinction between the natural seed and the spiritual seed of the natural / Kinsman offspring.

    There has always been an remnant. The distinction is to show the seed is not recond on birthright alone, if so the Ishmaelites would be included.

    Key verse: Romans 9:3.

    Are we Paul's

    kinsman in the flesh? No.

    John 10:16. says there is 2 sheep folds that will come together and become one.

    Israel is one of these sheep folds.

    These verses doesn't apply to us.

    Romans 11:1-5.

    Romans 11:25-26.

    Romans 11:27.

    Here in Romans 11:28-30. notice the distinction in the words like "they" and "their" that shows there's 2 distinctive groups.

    "As concerning the gospel, "THEY" are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, "THEY" are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

    For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through "THEIR" unbelief:"

    God will turn again to the NATION OF Israel.

    Acts 15:14-17.

    The context of my post is on a literal Kingdom here on earth and we are not the children/nation of Israel whom certain promises was given to.

    God bless.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother Spencer, Please read Paul's epistle to Galatians. I am pointing out some verses:

    Galatians 3:7 "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham."

    Who are Abraham's children. Verse 7 says those who are of faith are the ones, that is us the Christians

    Galatians 3:26 and 29 " 26 - For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus./ 29 -And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

    Verses 26 and 29 say that if we are Jesus's children then we are Abraham's children as well.

    Also read Romans 9:6-8 "6 -Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: /7 - Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called./8 - That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

    The above verses say that not all biological children of Abraham are his children, but only the children of promise. The children of promise is us, the Christians.

    It is obvious that the children of faith/of promise, these are the true children of Abraham. Who are they? Christians are. Both gentiles and Jews that believe in Jesus Christ.

    So the promises given from God to Abraham pass to his children who now in the NT is the Church.

    GBU
  • WOMEN MINISTERS - 2 years ago
    Deborah led Israel as a judge

    Ruth preached before the town council

    Hebrews 11:31, book of heroes

    By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace [hid them]

    Esther saved all the Jews 8:18

    Lois and Eunice. 2 Timothy 3:14-15

    Acts 18:26 - And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.

    Acts 2:17-18 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: (Read More...)

    Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Judges 4:4-5 - And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time. (Read More...)

    Romans 16:1-2 - I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: (Read More...)

    Philippians 4:3 - And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow laborers, whose names are in the book of life.

    2 Corinthians 6:3-5
  • The Commandments and Love - In Reply on Matthew 4 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 22

    35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

    36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38 This is the first and great commandment.

    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    40 On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets.

    The Commandments help us keep our lives straight; but loving our neighbors with the God-kind of Love is harder than it sounds. We do it because it is a commandment.

    One of my favorite stop offs is The School Master in Galatians 3, the purpose of The Law.

    Emphasis on Galatians 3:29 and 4:9.

    In my experience, we cannot attain to the God-kind of love (agape) until we set aside everything that is holding us back.

    * Storge - empathy bond.

    * Philia - friend bond.

    * Eros - romantic love.

    * Agape - unconditional "God" love.

    Mishael
  • THE STORY OF TAMAR-for those who asked about her - 2 years ago
    2 Samuel 13

    David loved God, loved his family and loved his country. He was vulnerable through his deep love for all.

    Amnon had a dirty old uncle encourage him to pursue Tamar (Absalom's sister). The uncle tells him what to do. Tamar tried to reason with him that as half sister, David might give her as a wife. Amnon only wanted what he'd been whipped into a frenzy for. After the rape, he didn't want anything to do with her. Nobody told David about it. David did not know what was going on, in his own household but he found out. He was angry at Absalom.

    Tamar went to live in Absalom's house; in seclusion. Absalom simmered in anger 2 years before he dealt with Amnon.

    Tamar is shown in David's genealogy; which is unusual.

    Absalom was married? It's recorded he had 3 sons that must have died at birth because they are not in the genealogy. He had 1 daughter and he named her Tamar too. She was a woman of fair countenance like her Aunt Tamar. I don't know how long she lived.

    Absalom did many many evil things. He raped all of his fathers concubines in full sight of town; and more. 2 Samuel 15

    Abdalom died hanging in a tree by his long beautiful dreadlocks. Joab is fetched and he stabs Absalom in the heart with 3 arrows; the troops with him smote and slew him afterwards.

    To conclude: the better question is what happened to Absalom's 1 daughter, that he named Tamar. Females were not in genealogies as a rule.

    I think David's daughter Tamar died of a broken messed up life. I think In honor of her suffering, Absalom named his daughter Tamar, also. There is no record of the end of her life.

    Galatians 3:13 says, CURSED is any who dies by hanging on a tree. Absalom died on a tree. Judas died on a tree. Jesus died on a tree so that WE ALL MAY LIVE ETERNALLY.

    David's psalms represent a lot of heartache over his life, his kids, his choices. He loved large.
  • Kay - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Galatians 2:16 -

    Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    Galatians 3:

    But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith

    We cannot be saved BY the keeping of the law. Our obeying God's Word is the fruit of the indwelling of the Spirit BECAUSE we are saved. We must rest our whole foot of faith on Jesus, Who is the only One Who kept the entire law for our sake, that His righteousness might be imputed to us. Amen! Praise the Lord!

    Blessings!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    Hi Brook.

    You said grow spiritual by keeping the law? We can't.

    Galatians 3:2-3.

    Galatians 3:5-7.

    Galatians 3:8-9.

    Galatians 3:10-11.

    Galatians 3:12-14.

    Also read Galatians 4. and

    Galatians 5.

    Jesus didn't do away with the Law.

    Jesus took on the penalty of the law that brought death.

    Colossians 2:14-17.

    In fact it's called the ministry of Death.

    Here's a few passages from Paul. at one time he felt the same way you do and set out to kill anyone that followed Jesus.

    2 Corinthians 3:6-11.

    Romans 7:10-11. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

    For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

    Romans 5:20. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

    Philippians 3:2-10. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

    For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

    Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

    Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

    Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

    But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

    Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

    And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

    That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

    Galatians 5:11-12.

    God bless.
  • Douglas L Herrmann - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 2 years ago
    Ms. Jackson, pray for God to increase your faith. Faith is what sets our heart at one with God so we can believe his promises and live for him. Faith give access into grace ( Romans 5:2). We receive the Holy Spirit by the hearing of faith ( Galatians 3:2). Faith is the victory that overcomes the world ( 1 John 5:4). When reading the Bible ask yourself if you really belief what it says. Hebrews 11:6 "But with out faith it is impossible to please God: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him". Faith precedes grace, the Holy Spirit, imputes righteousness and gives victory. Faith the size of a mustard seed will remove mountains ( Matthew 17:20). Hebrews 11 has good examples of faith and the effects of it.
  • Roman - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Paul writes Romans 13 to say basically two things: First, just because the Roman Empire, and most governments are corrupt, doesn't mean that all government in principle is bad. And secondly, he infers that while people should hold the Roman Empire in contempt, and resist it, they should not do so by breaking the law.
  • Aloysious - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Yes! But at the same time the law of God is supreme in that all laws comes from the Bible anyway. It's just that some of our laws today has been modified or are being redefine.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Wwll stated brother Chris!

    God bless you.
  • Daniel Lindenbaum - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Amen brother Chris & neighbor Curious!

    Legalism too is something that borders into this area that Paul addresses as a whole in the books of Galatians. Legalism was hard to shake from the Jews during that time. The "jew-christians (early messianics/Judaizers)," Pharisees, Sadducees and so on all lived under the bondage of the laws. They put others under the bondage of faith by works the same which never saved anyone after Christ shed His Blood for our sins to have Grace by means of Salvation.

    To encourage you all neighbors, I lived in this bondage growing up. I was raised roman catholic and was very involved until I was 19-years old. I was even told by a cardinal back then that our lives in service to God are only of good deeds (which he referred moreso of works). They would twist the book of James to no end. James mentions works but the works that James speaks of is the fruit of the Spirit of the born again; not works by means of Salvation. Anyway, I left the catholic church after a divide toward atheism. Long story short, I nearly died when I was 22-years old and the only person willing to help me in the hospital that time was a born again Christian. They shared with me the verses in the Bible (which I'd never read back then) how to be saved. It took a lot of resistance but God broke through in October 3rd, 2010. My encouragement to you all is that we ought to praise Christ Jesus for dying for our sins, giving up His free Grace, washing us from our sins, His mercy, His Holy Spirit, His Holy Word (KJV in English in my case) and the great promises He gives to the elect including Eternal Life after this. Amen!

    God bless you both and I'll see you someday when I lay my burdens down. Amen!
  • Suze - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    The Old Testament is what Jesus was brought up on and believed in , he quotes is so many times and he is there , figuratively , in every single book of the Old Testament . A decent understanding of the Old sheds enormous light on the New . Give it a go , I promise you will love it .
  • Chris - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Curious-L. Brother Daniel has correctly shared with you what was going on amongst the Churches in Galatia (in North & South Galatia): that Judaizers had infiltrated the Churches ( Galatians 1:6-9). And these Judaizers, as he has explained, were corrupting the true Gospel of Jesus by demanding observance of the old Laws & its practises.

    Then from Galatians 1:11 to 2:21, Paul writes on aspects of his authority to share what he did over & above what these false teachers were claiming: Paul's authority given by Revelation, by the Jerusalem Church's approval, & by his rebuking of Peter.

    And from chapter 3, I think is where your confusion arises. From here on, Paul teaches what the Galatians should be embracing, i.e. Justification by Faith alone & nothing else. In the Church, there would have been both converted Jews & Gentiles worshipping together. Since both were being taught by these Judaizers about adherence to the Law as well as Faith, to the Jewish convert these words in chapters 3 & 4, would have much meaning & they would be in need of more correcting.

    So how does this apply to you & me? Paul is not stating that the Gentiles (including you & me) were ever under the Law, as the new Jewish believers once were, but was emphasizing that since those who were under the Law (i.e. these new Jewish believers) and those Gentiles who were being taught to also embrace the Law, are affected by the false teachers, all should be warned that they don't syncretize the two (i.e. uniting or mixing together Law & free Grace through Faith) - they cannot be mixed together - they're like oil & water. So, Curious-L, you & I were never under the Law, but we're to be careful not to adhere to the Law as well to gain salvation, to which Faith speaks against. The Law was given only to show the Jew their sin & incapability to keep it perfectly & be righteous before God - it was given to ultimately "bring them to Christ, that we (all - Jew & Gentile) might be justified by Faith."
  • Curious-L - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello, well, I'm always told the Old Testament is old and it is done away with cause we in the new and we under a new way. I guess that is not right, but they say this in church I started going too is why. This why I skipped to the New Testament, plus my pastor only teaches from the new anyway, I guess that is not right as well.....Shhh, smh.
  • Curious-L - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Hmmm, a bit more confused as took some of your advise to go to Galatians 1, but came back in this chapter to find this verse 3:23 But before faith came (faith is Christ from my understanding), we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 13:17

    17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

    Comment: if you watch election results, it's obvious that half the population is voting for the half that did not vote. Rain or shine, we need to give voting more of our priority.

    Make a "cheat sheet", so we don't vote for the other party. It happens. Last one I voted in, the "vote party" option was gone. It's necessary to have the names of the person representing your party of choice, on the issues.

    Don't leave it at home on Election Day. :D put in your wallet.
  • Daniel - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Under Law (Mosaic, Levitical, etc) we lived by works. Salvation could only be obtained by works. This was only a temporary solution until Christ Jesus came to die for our sins so that we're freed from law by Salvation; nei, we are saved by Grace through Faith in Christ's finished work at Calvary. Therefore, Spiritual law is nothing more but written on the hearts of those born again.

    What was the situational context of Galatians 3 (most of Paul's letter to Galatia)?

    Galatia heard the Gospel of Grace (not works of the Law) by either Paul or another early witness that was in Paul's fellowship. Judaizers (which aren't much different from modern Messianics) came to Galatia and told them that the Grace of God wasn't enough. They tried to pervert the Galatian church's understanding of Grace and asked they go back under the law (works of physical circumcision, feast days, sabbatical law, etc). Everything Judaizers or Messianics teach is in contrary to the victory Christ Jesus gave us by shedding His Blood so that we may have Grace freely without works.

    None of the context has to do with secular laws by civilization. Obviously, we live in this world and cannot rebel against civil laws of the land. This chapter has nothing to do with that. Reach Galatians back from chapter 1 for better understanding.
  • Suze - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi , Curious . If your nature is as your name , then you should read the Old Testament as well as the New . All your questions will be answered if you read the Old as well as the New . Enjoy and God bless your efforts .
  • Curious-L on Galatians 3 - 2 years ago
    What "Law" is this passage talking about and what everybody is talking about? And who gave me this "Law" that I was under or since my birth. Only law I know about is laws in America? Do I still have to keep the laws in America cause Christ died?
  • D W L on Proverbs 16 - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 16:7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

    Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

    Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

    Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

    Proverbs 16:7 -- I have heard this quoted and applied as Gospel to everyday living. If it were so Jesus wouldn't have died and rose again. If it were so Peter and John wouldn't have been beaten.

    Psalms 37:25 King David said I have never seen the righteous forsaken or Gods seed begging bread. Luke 16:21 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, --- David didn't lie (he said I) have never seen - But that wasn't gospel what Jesus said was.
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15:5 - 2 years ago
    Originally I wrote a post saying that trying to show that "shall be made alive" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 is more than just physical resurrection may be trying to prove too much. But I was wrong.

    The word translated "shall be made alive" zoopoiethesontai is derived from a word that is used in the New Testament for being resurrected or quickened to eternal life. Here are the other passages that use derivatives of this word:

    John 5:21

    John 6:63

    Romans 4:17

    Romans 8:11

    1 Corinthians 15:36

    1 Corinthians 15:45

    2 Corinthians 3:6

    Galatians 3:21

    1 Peter 3:18

    This word cannot mean life common to all men living and moving and having their being in Christ, nor can it mean simply resurrection to either eternal life or the second death. Under this meaning I am persuaded that the word "all" in 1 Corinthians cannot be an unlimited universal "all" and in both instances where it is used in this passage it is limited by the words "in Adam" and "in Christ". "In Christ" appears to be used in this passage by Paul in a similar way to the way he uses that phrase and the phrase "in Him" in Ephesians.

    Ephesians 1:2-4,7,10,13,20

    Ephesians 2:6-7,10,13,20-22

    Ephesians 3:6,11-12

    Ephesians 4:32

    This also suggests that "all men" in Romans 5:18 is limited by the "one man" being referenced, either Adam or Christ.

    The connection that Adam and Christ share in common with the "all" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:8 has several different interpretations that have been offered. Personally I believe there is a federal headship connection. "Things done by one may be imputed unto others, propter relationem foederalem, because of a covenant relation between them." Hodge

    I also believe Adam and Christ are uniquely qualified and appointed by God to be the first fruits of their respective seed. No other human beings can be presented before God in the way they can.


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