1 Thessalonians 5:5. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Nationality gains you nothing.
We are children of darkness/the night or children light.
Sometimes even Christians through the carnal mind identify themselves as a Jewish, Black, White, Indian ect ect..Christian as if there is some favor to their ethnic group.
We also see those who covet the Identify of the Israelites as though God favor the Israelites.
This is because of a misunderstanding of scripture.
They are set apart for a purpose, (Which I don't care to expound on here.)
Just to mention for clarity you have the ""Black Israelites who say they are the real Israelites."" and You have the Mormons who say they're somehow tied to the tribe of Joseph.
I mention these groups as examples to make my point.
Here's what matters.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: FOR YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:26-29.
Also;
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2 Corinthians 5:16-17.
This is all we should earnestly covet after and display the humility of Christ which is shown in this verse.
When you say "Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.
I wouldn't put it that way by no means.
Here's Law.
The fact that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" does not come by the law that doesn't mean the law was abolished.
And Christ death on the cross did not do away with the law.
The law condemned man because no one was able to keep the law so all mankind was under the penalty of death.
Christ took on the penalty and "PAYED THE PRICE". by death on the cross.
( Colossians 2:14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;)
The law was the ministration of Death. "And still is"
2 Corinthians 3:7-16.
It was to show us our sin and bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:22-28.
Listen to Paul in Romans 7:7-14.
Also.
Galatians 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
So since you are justified by faith and made righteous by Christ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? No! not if you have been freed from bondage.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13
Romans 6:1-23.
James 2:18.
Jesus came to give you a new Heart. A heart of flesh.
If a person is truly saved he/she would have MORE written on their heart than what's written in the law.
There's things we don't do is sin also. James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Ms. Smiley, my minister did a very informative sermon on Baptism a couple of Sundays ago. If you would go on facebook and pull up the Richmond Ave. Church of Christ video, and listen to that sermon I'm sure you will be edified and encouraged to obey the gospel. Also I know some people don't do social media: if that is the case with you you can always read from the King James version of the Bible these scriptures: Acts 2:38, Mark 16:15-16, Acts 22:16: I Peter3:20-21; Acts 10:48, John 3:5; Luke 7:30. Also read 2 Corinthians 5:17 with Galatians 3:27. If after reading these passages you are still unsure or have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at (817) 739-4933. The scriptures I gave you are in reference to specifically the purpose of baptism. There are others that speak to the action itself and who are candidates for taking the action, let me know if you would like those. But God's plan of salvation for us all is a 5-step process given in the book. You must first Hear the gospel, believe what you hear, repent, you must confess faith and then be baptized. Just know this is GOd's plan. Not mine or my minister's. In closing just know,"We speak where the Bible speaks, and are Silent where the Bible is silent."
It's a blessing to go through the book of Gal 3. Truly God doesn't change, neither is his way. If Abraham was justified by faith, then even us today are justified by faith; faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.John1:29. John 19:30. Having therefore confidence to enter the holiest by the blood of Jesus, the blood through which God has made us righteous, and holy , we are going to heaven, I give glory to God. Amen
Makes me think of how the curse came. Adam ate from the tree that God told him not to eat. So, to remove the curse that came with disobedience, Jesus, died on a cross of wood (from a tree).
Verse 13-The way that Christ died by being hung on a tree is important because he lifted the curse that was to be placed upon us by dying this way. We should be truly grateful for this amazing gift that was given in our behalf.
Ronnette (My Prayers to ALL) See YOU in the cloud on 1 Thessalonians 5:18 - 2 years ago
Myfarewellmessagetothissite Matthew 10:14, Luke 9:5. God tells me to go back and convince one more time the people reading this site-must know that God sent his only begotten Son to destroy sins. He died once for all of us Galatians 3:28 in a very powerful way. A pattern that is similar in the Old Testament-sacrificial shedding of blood of the lamb. God knows we cannot save ourselves. So we need a Saviour Jesus Christ. He did it for us All. My prayers are to help everyone understand this basic concept and many will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. We do not believe in vain, nor we put the work of ALL apostles, most especially Paul who was the last apostle to write plethora of information for everyone to be saved. Remember the Bible is complete by itself. God gave us a free gift of grace Romans 5:15-18. The ten Commandments are for us to see how sinful we are. That is why Paul calls it a schoolmaster Galatians 3:24-25. So when you believe, trust and have faith in Jesus Christ's blood that He shed for our sins Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10 we die with Him Galatians 2:20. That is the baptism without submerging yourself into the water Acts 1:5, Acts 10:47,Roman's 6:3, Galatians 3:27, 1 Corinthians 10:2. We are not divided Christians 1 Corinthians 1:13-16, 1 Corinthians 12:13. Once you are saved you are sealed Ephesians 1:13, 2 Corinthians 1:22, John 6:27. Jesus sent Paul to seal us Gentiles Romans 15:28. So grieve not Ephesians 4:30. When the Holy Spirit is in you you do not want to commit sin, if you do, you are letting your old self to dominate your spirit. We are walking in the Spirit of God. God already won. Do not let Satan defeat you (on going Spiritual warfare) that is why let every thought to be with God 2 Corinthians 10:5. I came back to fulfill with the help of the Holy Spirit to ask that you trust only Jesus and not yourself here on earth. Let Jesus do the rest. It is indeed true OSAS.Sealed is sealed.You reap what you sow on earth. Peace&joy to ALL.
For one the law wasn't given to Gentiles it was given to Israel. I wasn't given to JUSTIFY anyone for salvation.
Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE."
Here's a few scriptures to study:
Please don't just read these Scriptures, Study them!! These are very important Scriptures that is ignored by some. Understanding these scriptures can help keep one from being deceived atleast in this area anyway.
Galatians 3:1-29.
Galatians Ch 4 and 5.
2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
Also study.
Hebrews 8:1-13 and
Hebrews 9:1-28.
It's interesting what you will find in Hebrews when ministering the first covenant. It WASN'T about just being obedient to the 10 commandments, There were services that had to be performed to extreme precision.
There was the high priest that ministered THOSE services under THAT covenant in a WORLDLY sanctuary. The services had to be rendered perfectly but they couldn't make you perfect. They had no effect on the heart of man. Men heart is incurably wicked. The new covenant where Christ is the High priest He came to give you a new Heart and the REST that the old covenant couldn't give. Because no one could keep or be justified by the old covenant.
Why is it that those who desire to add their means of justifying themselves they choose what they think is the easiest to do and not realize in their lusty heart they break the commandments.
James 2:10.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Good question. Rejoice evermore.
Passages in Romans 10 shows great importance in preaching it.
vs 8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, WHICH WE PREACH;
vs 14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and HOW SHALL THEY HEAR WITHOUT A PREACHER?
vs 15) AND HOW SHALL THEY PREACH, EXCEPT THEY BE SENT? as it is written, HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THEM THAT PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, AND BRING GLAD TIDINGS OF GOOD THINGS!
Jesus said Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15.
This same group false theology suggests there's no hell or Satan and everyone goes to heaven so even the word salvation is pointless because there is nothing to be saved from. So the death of Christ doesn't display the love of God.
John 3:16 would have to be an error!
The wide gate in Matthew 7:13 doesn't exist.
There's no consequences to sin, no reward for righteous living by the Spirit.
Those who denied Christ, Hate God, murderer ect... And those who love God will sit down with judas, Paul, Peter, Putin, Hitler and sit down at the marriage supper. So our preaching is in vain.
So why do they earnestly stand in our way? They pretend to be beside you when talking about the trinity but when you mention Faith, Believe, ect.. in regards to salvation they come unglued! Why do they bother if whether you believe or not according to them it doesn't matter? That they won't answer.
They stand in the way when it shouldn't matter to them unless the spirit in them is to deceive!
And This doctrine "Salvation by works is by that same Spirit. As seen in Galatians 3:1 and many other verses.
I Agree with Brother Chris "God knowing beforehand the choices that we make & the way our lives will unfold" and the Gospel goes out to all, the invitation is for all, but not all will respond!!
1 John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Matthew 7:13-14. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.
Galatians 3:22. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given TO THEM THAT BELIEVE.
Ephesians 1:12-13. That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
So let's make it clear
Romans 10:8-15 is what's relevant.
But look at verse 16. "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Here's my thought on this that I'm sure can be improved on.
Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF GOD ACCORDING TO ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) Here we have God's way that He Elected..
Next we have "WHEN" God's way was Elected.
Ephesians 1:4. According as he hath chosen us ( IN ) him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION of THE WORLD...
You may find it easier to understand if we look at it as the church or the body of Christ instead of Individuals.
Please see context: Deuteronomy 10:16, Deuteronomy 30:6, even in old testament men have argued their holiness, set apart status, (in the flesh) yet GOD said even then; it's about the heart. Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:25, = Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Romans 4:11, 1Corinthians 7:18,
Galatians 3:28,
They were still arguing circumcision, not equality in GOD. Acts 11:2, Galatians 2:12,
I can get water baptized until I am water logged and it isn't going to do anything for me spiritually. It's just water on the outside of the body. Water baptism cannot produce the ministry Spirit of God. And if I look through this chapter, it's talking about being delivered from sin, dying to sin, and being born into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. You don't do that through water. It's through the Spirit of God!
Spirit baptism, or the baptism of the Holy Spirit, is the name of the ministry of Jesus Christ. I know the term has been misused today so a lot of people try and stay away from the term "Baptism of the Spirit." But in Matthew 3:11, John the Baptist said "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance."
John's baptism is different than Christian baptism. His was for the Jews that they would repent at the coming of Messiah. He says I baptize you water unto repentance, (not remission of sin), but He that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear, He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire. This is Jesus' ministry, to baptize us with His Spirit. The fire represents judgment. But we become a member of the body of Christ the moment we are saved and that is the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
In Galatians 3:27, it says "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ." So the baptism is parallel to and synonymous with putting on Christ, salvation, and receiving Christ. I have to understand this from Paul's perspective. Paul is the one that taught about Spiritual baptism being salvation, and the time that you come into the body of Christ. It is the Lord's ministry, and it is sad that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is misunderstood today and mistaught which takes away from the very function for which it is supposed to serve.
To be fair, I am going to look some more at Colossians 2:12. I may still be on the fence with that one. I hope you have a great day!
Salvation is only received through believing and trusting in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, it is the Gospel of Jesus Christ that saves. The law will only drive the lost soul unto the Gospel and Salvation. Galatians 3: 11, 12, 21-26. Romans 10: 9, 10
Praise the Lord for His redemption through His blood on the cross that gives Salvation unto all those who believe and trust in Him.
May we all pray diligently for our leaders to believe and have the mind of Christ. 2 Timothy 2:1-4
God bless all on this forum with the wisdom of the Lord. May His comforting hand be on all.
The Law was given to Israel. The law given was to convict us of sin.
2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
Galatians 3:11-13.
Romans 7:4-5.
Romans 7:9-10.
Some aspects of the Law such as the Sabbath pointed to Christ work on the Cross that would free us from the curse of the Law. " Death"
Colossians 2:11-17.
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS:
HERE'S. THE KEY IN VERSE 17.
Vs.17) "Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."
Israel "as a nation" regects Christ work on the cross so as of now the have yet to join in that rest.( Yet they honor the Sabbath!)
Please study Hebrews 4:2-11.
That rest comes after salvation. Not to obtain it.
If one wants to observe the sabbath go ahead, but if you do it to earn salvation you fall in the same unbelief as Israel.
The Galatians was warned of the same thing in Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."
Salvation is not for sell its a gift. Ephesians 2:8-9. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Baptism is a big deal to God. Such a big deal, a person was sent in advance of Jesus specifically to baptize people to prepare for Jesus. It was a big deal to Jesus that He was baptized Himself, and invited those around Him to be baptized. It's such a big deal it even says in the Bible to be baptized. It's written in the form of a command. It is a conditional statement. Do this, and this is the result. Whether someone likes it or not salvation is mentioned in the same sentence in Acts 2:38 for example. Also read: Acts 22:16, 1 Peter 3:21, John 3:5, Galatians 3:26-27, Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 2:41.
Just as people were resistant to follow Jesus in His day, we have people who read the above verses and dismiss them as important or "unnecessary." Man tries so hard to perform mental gymnastics to avoid doing something God wants us to do. He comes up with all these creative interpretations of cherry picked verses claiming that when it says to be baptized, it doesn't actually mean it, or is symbolic, or no longer applies, or [fill in the blank].
What it comes down to is do you believe the Bible verses above or not? Do want to follow Jesus or not?
Is there a risk of being baptized? No.
Is there a risk of not being baptized? Yes.
How is this not an easy decision?
Bible clearly says to be baptized, but why is someone who wants to follow Jesus so adamant about not doing it? Physically you're wet for a couple minutes, then you dry off. Similar to what most people normally do daily anyway. So, the hesitancy probably isn't because of that. What else would motivate people to try so hard to disobey Jesus then? Embarrassment? Many do it publicly, but you can also do it privately. What else makes people so desperate to disobey Jesus then? Something inside them is resisting. Maybe searching ones heart and motives and praying and study of the scriptures might help reveal ones real motives behind this.
The "Age of Accountability" matter has come up here before, where someone asked what that age might be - he/she suggested 8 yrs of age, if I remember. Various answers were given, from age 5 to teen years. My understanding of the 'age of accountability', which would differ between children, is the age when the child knows that he has committed sin, that sin is both wrong and is accountable before God, and the child needs to recognize that his sin has separated him from God. And then, to understand the message of the Gospel, to repent, & to receive Christ. If this doesn't happen at this 'early' age, then there will be many children going to Hell without receiving Christ & being born again. Sin is sin, no matter our age - when we do wrong & display our carnal nature, we are accountable for it - there isn't a time of grace where manifested sin is overlooked.
So, when you asked, "So you do not believe in the scriptural "Age of Accountability"?", I do believe in an 'age of accountability', but unsure what you mean by the "scriptural Age of Accountability". Is there one even given, or does that age not actually represent an age in years, but an age of understanding & giving an heart-felt response? Those living in Jesus' Day & under the Law, were taught from childhood about the Law, obedience to it, of God's Character, & days to be observed. They lived under the Law & by it God judged them. After the crucifixion, the Law was abrogated, the Law that only brought death ( Romans 7:10). "for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law" ( Galatians 3:21) & there wouldn't have been a need for Jesus' Death. So, I simply share this to highlight that, pre-Cross, the Hebrew child was taught the Law, of sin & urged to keep the Law (age was of no concern). Post-Cross, the child is alerted when wrong is committed (i.e. God's Law is broken), but now there is an immediate solution found in the Cross, & faith in Jesus.
S Spencer. on Romans 8:1-11. - In Reply - 2 years ago
Part 2.
Let me pause for a second to say this is not a message on whether we keep the commandments or not. This is about the nature of the Un generated heart of man apart from Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit by those who are in Christ.
When speaking of the law we think of the writings of Moses and the commandments, etc.
Let's take a look at the purpose of the law and the effects and condition of those under it.
THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW.
Galatians 3:24.
Also take a look at Romans 7:7 .... (I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.)
THE EFFECTS AND CODITION OF THOSE UNDER THE LAW.
Here in Romans 7:23. we have Paul describing the warring of the old nature and the new nature in a believer.
"But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members."
Here in Romans 8:3-7. we have a picture of the flesh held captive by the curse of the law.
(For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,)
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, NEITHER INDEED CAN BE.
THE LAWS CONCLUSION.
So, the law showed us our fallen and sinful condition, and the law also couldn't change the heart of man that's why we have to be born from above. This is what the new birth does and how it is in relationship to baptism. As seen Galatians 3:24-27.
Pray this over him. Don't Weep. Have Faith in Jesus - In Reply - 2 years ago
Jesus is the Lord of my life. Sickness and disease have no power over me. I am forgiven and free from SIN AND GUILT. I am dead to sin and alive unto righteousness.
I am FREE from unforgiveness and strife. I forgive others as Christ has forgiven me, for the love of God is shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Ghost.
Jesus bore my sins in His Body on the tree. Therefore, I am dead to sin and alive unto God and by His stripes I am healed and made whole.
Jesus bore my sickness and carried my pain. Therefore I give no place to sickness or pain. For God sent His Word and healed me.
Father, because of Your Word I am an overcomer. I overcome the world, the flesh and the devil, by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of my testimony.
You have given me abundant life. I receive that life through Your Word and it flows to every organ of my body, my heart, bringing healing and health.
Heavenly Father, I attend to Your Word. I incline my ears to Your sayings. I will not let them depart from my eyes. I keep them in the midst of my heart, for they are life and healing to all my flesh.
No evil will befall me. Neither shall any plague come near my dwelling. For You have given Your angels charge over me. They keep me in all my ways. In my pathway is life, healing and health.
Jesus took my infirmities and bore my sicknesses. I receive your life into my body, Jesus
Therefore I refuse to allow sickness to dominate my body. The Life of God flows within me bringing healing to every fiber of my being. My breathing will obey My Lord.
I am redeemed from the curse. Galatians 3:13 is flowing in my blood stream. It flows to every cell of my body, restoring life and health, breath.
Do Not take away or add to the word of god. If the bible says ( Baptize ) it means Baptize. BIBLE VERSES ABOUT WATER BAPTISM Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be ( baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 1 Peter 3:21Mark 16:16Acts 22:16 and this scripture explains this very clearly! John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,( Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. ) Romans 6:4 - Therefore we are ( buried with him by baptism into death:) that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Galatians 3:27Acts 10:48Matthew 28:19Acts 10:48Matthew 3:16Acts 8:36-39 ( And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain ( water:) and the eunuch said, See, here is ( water;) what doth hinder me to be baptized? Gods word says Baptize it means baptize ( there is no scripture that NULLIFYS WATER BAPTISM ) Further more ( Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. God has a plan for salvation and we have no right to change it by our interpretation of the word 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: These are not my word, they are scripture By Which we as CHRISTIANS must live by. I submit this in the love of Jesus and the hope of seeing his will, that NO MAN SHOULD PARRISH !
It shows even in Exodus when the Law was ordained the outward cleansing couldn't get you into the presence of the LORD.
There was no new heart of flesh!
No rebirth, No death of the old man, Just symbolic cleansing and sacrifices that pointed forward to one coming and also even then highlighted the inability of man to cleanse himself from sin.
Our best efforts apart from Holyspirit cannot present us blameless, nor can it restore us!
We are cleansed, saved, sanctified and kept by the Spirit IN US.
This particular area of scripture is highlighted in Galatians 3:23-24. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
This is where the Law began.
Sometimes we loose sight that the Gospel was preached to Abraham 430 years before this point.
Galatians 3:17. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. So when we take in all of Galatians 3. with the giving of the law by Moses we see the purpose of the law and the reason why it is called the ministration of Death and Paul said when the Law was given it slew him.
Romans 7:7-11.
2 Corinthians 3:6-10.
The purpose of the law was in mind when it was first given and illustrated with the barriers in Exodus.
Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, but it (the inheritance) is no more of PROMISE, but God gave it to Abraham by PROMISE.
We have to know what this PROMISE is.
The PROMISE was A SEED.
Luke 8:11 ....THE SEED .....is THE WORD OF GOD.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD (THE SEED), and the WORD (THE SEED) was with God, and the WORD (THE SEED) was God.
Now we know Christ is the SEED, but Christ is also the ANGEL of the Lord; therefore HIS SEED, those born of GOD will also be an angel, because we have become ONE.
Ephesians 2:15 ....for to make IN HIMSELF ONE NEW MAN.
Isaiah 63:9 ....and the ANGEL of HIS (the Father, SPIRIT) presence SAVED THEM.
Christ is the ANGEL.
A SEED always duplicates itself, wheat seed always makes wheat seed, it's a LAW of GOD.
When Christ the SEED is planted in you; at maturity you will be the exact same SEED: two; you and Christ, become ONE.
Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added for transgressions, till THE SEED (the WORD, Christ); could come to whom the promise was made; and it (the SEED) was ordained by angels (THE SEED of the SEED) in the hand of a mediator.
1 Timothy 2:5 For the is ONE GOD (ONE SEED), and ONE MEDIATOR, between God and MEN; the MAN Jesus Christ (the SEED).
Psalms 82:6 I (the WORD, the SEED) have said ye are gods (SEED made like the SEED planted), all of you are the children of the most HIGH (the SEED).
THE SEED IS ETERNAL LIFE.
1 Timothy 6:16, ...who (the SEED) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....
Great you're reading the Bible! Romans 10:17, 2Timothy 2:15,
James 1:5,
Genesis 1:26,27, compare to; John 1:1-4, Job 38,
One GOD: 1Timothy 2:5, Galatians 3:20,
Food in Heaven = Psalms 78:24,25, Revelation 22:2, Luke 22:16, Matthew 26:29, Revelation 19:9, Luke 14:16-24,
Hopefully these are helpful
1 Thessalonians 5:5. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Nationality gains you nothing.
We are children of darkness/the night or children light.
Sometimes even Christians through the carnal mind identify themselves as a Jewish, Black, White, Indian ect ect..Christian as if there is some favor to their ethnic group.
We also see those who covet the Identify of the Israelites as though God favor the Israelites.
This is because of a misunderstanding of scripture.
They are set apart for a purpose, (Which I don't care to expound on here.)
Just to mention for clarity you have the ""Black Israelites who say they are the real Israelites."" and You have the Mormons who say they're somehow tied to the tribe of Joseph.
I mention these groups as examples to make my point.
Here's what matters.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: FOR YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:26-29.
Also;
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2 Corinthians 5:16-17.
This is all we should earnestly covet after and display the humility of Christ which is shown in this verse.
Philippians 2:5-8.
God bless.
When you say "Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.
I wouldn't put it that way by no means.
Here's Law.
The fact that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" does not come by the law that doesn't mean the law was abolished.
And Christ death on the cross did not do away with the law.
The law condemned man because no one was able to keep the law so all mankind was under the penalty of death.
Christ took on the penalty and "PAYED THE PRICE". by death on the cross.
( Colossians 2:14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;)
The law was the ministration of Death. "And still is"
2 Corinthians 3:7-16.
It was to show us our sin and bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:22-28.
Listen to Paul in Romans 7:7-14.
Also.
Galatians 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
So since you are justified by faith and made righteous by Christ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? No! not if you have been freed from bondage.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13
Romans 6:1-23.
James 2:18.
Jesus came to give you a new Heart. A heart of flesh.
If a person is truly saved he/she would have MORE written on their heart than what's written in the law.
There's things we don't do is sin also. James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
God bless.
Sister Gwen Johnson
Makes me think of how the curse came. Adam ate from the tree that God told him not to eat. So, to remove the curse that came with disobedience, Jesus, died on a cross of wood (from a tree).
God bless us all !
Sending love
Scripture agrees with what Luke has spoken.
For one the law wasn't given to Gentiles it was given to Israel. I wasn't given to JUSTIFY anyone for salvation.
Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE."
Here's a few scriptures to study:
Please don't just read these Scriptures, Study them!! These are very important Scriptures that is ignored by some. Understanding these scriptures can help keep one from being deceived atleast in this area anyway.
Galatians 3:1-29.
Galatians Ch 4 and 5.
2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
Also study.
Hebrews 8:1-13 and
Hebrews 9:1-28.
It's interesting what you will find in Hebrews when ministering the first covenant. It WASN'T about just being obedient to the 10 commandments, There were services that had to be performed to extreme precision.
There was the high priest that ministered THOSE services under THAT covenant in a WORLDLY sanctuary. The services had to be rendered perfectly but they couldn't make you perfect. They had no effect on the heart of man. Men heart is incurably wicked. The new covenant where Christ is the High priest He came to give you a new Heart and the REST that the old covenant couldn't give. Because no one could keep or be justified by the old covenant.
Why is it that those who desire to add their means of justifying themselves they choose what they think is the easiest to do and not realize in their lusty heart they break the commandments.
James 2:10.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28.
Study those chapters.
God bless.
Additional verses: Galatians 3:1-29
Galatians 3:26-29
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Good question. Rejoice evermore.
Is the Gospel necessary? Absolutely!
However some that feast with us don't think so.
Passages in Romans 10 shows great importance in preaching it.
vs 8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, WHICH WE PREACH;
vs 14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and HOW SHALL THEY HEAR WITHOUT A PREACHER?
vs 15) AND HOW SHALL THEY PREACH, EXCEPT THEY BE SENT? as it is written, HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THEM THAT PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, AND BRING GLAD TIDINGS OF GOOD THINGS!
Jesus said Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15.
This same group false theology suggests there's no hell or Satan and everyone goes to heaven so even the word salvation is pointless because there is nothing to be saved from. So the death of Christ doesn't display the love of God.
John 3:16 would have to be an error!
The wide gate in Matthew 7:13 doesn't exist.
There's no consequences to sin, no reward for righteous living by the Spirit.
Those who denied Christ, Hate God, murderer ect... And those who love God will sit down with judas, Paul, Peter, Putin, Hitler and sit down at the marriage supper. So our preaching is in vain.
So why do they earnestly stand in our way? They pretend to be beside you when talking about the trinity but when you mention Faith, Believe, ect.. in regards to salvation they come unglued! Why do they bother if whether you believe or not according to them it doesn't matter? That they won't answer.
They stand in the way when it shouldn't matter to them unless the spirit in them is to deceive!
And This doctrine "Salvation by works is by that same Spirit. As seen in Galatians 3:1 and many other verses.
Part 1.
I Agree with Brother Chris "God knowing beforehand the choices that we make & the way our lives will unfold" and the Gospel goes out to all, the invitation is for all, but not all will respond!!
1 John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Matthew 7:13-14. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.
Galatians 3:22. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given TO THEM THAT BELIEVE.
Ephesians 1:12-13. That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
So let's make it clear
Romans 10:8-15 is what's relevant.
But look at verse 16. "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Here's my thought on this that I'm sure can be improved on.
Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF GOD ACCORDING TO ELECTION might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) Here we have God's way that He Elected..
Next we have "WHEN" God's way was Elected.
Ephesians 1:4. According as he hath chosen us ( IN ) him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION of THE WORLD...
You may find it easier to understand if we look at it as the church or the body of Christ instead of Individuals.
See part 2.
Please see context: Deuteronomy 10:16, Deuteronomy 30:6, even in old testament men have argued their holiness, set apart status, (in the flesh) yet GOD said even then; it's about the heart. Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:25, = Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Romans 4:11, 1Corinthians 7:18,
Galatians 3:28,
They were still arguing circumcision, not equality in GOD. Acts 11:2, Galatians 2:12,
New= 2Corinthians 5:17,
Hopefully these are helpful
faith came by Jesus Christ on Pentecost before that you could believe God but not have spiritual faith inside by holy
spirit. There a greek word called pistis and when you look it up it was translated either believing or faith by the translators.
abraham was justified by works in that he believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness. In the old testament
no person had spiritual faith in them i.e. born again because it was not possible till pentecost.
I can get water baptized until I am water logged and it isn't going to do anything for me spiritually. It's just water on the outside of the body. Water baptism cannot produce the ministry Spirit of God. And if I look through this chapter, it's talking about being delivered from sin, dying to sin, and being born into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. You don't do that through water. It's through the Spirit of God!
Spirit baptism, or the baptism of the Holy Spirit, is the name of the ministry of Jesus Christ. I know the term has been misused today so a lot of people try and stay away from the term "Baptism of the Spirit." But in Matthew 3:11, John the Baptist said "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance."
John's baptism is different than Christian baptism. His was for the Jews that they would repent at the coming of Messiah. He says I baptize you water unto repentance, (not remission of sin), but He that comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear, He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire. This is Jesus' ministry, to baptize us with His Spirit. The fire represents judgment. But we become a member of the body of Christ the moment we are saved and that is the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
In Galatians 3:27, it says "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ." So the baptism is parallel to and synonymous with putting on Christ, salvation, and receiving Christ. I have to understand this from Paul's perspective. Paul is the one that taught about Spiritual baptism being salvation, and the time that you come into the body of Christ. It is the Lord's ministry, and it is sad that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is misunderstood today and mistaught which takes away from the very function for which it is supposed to serve.
To be fair, I am going to look some more at Colossians 2:12. I may still be on the fence with that one. I hope you have a great day!
GALATIANS 3:23 the scripture says before faith came, Jesus Christ made spiritual faith available. So you could not be
a christian until pentecost when it became available.
Praise the Lord for His redemption through His blood on the cross that gives Salvation unto all those who believe and trust in Him.
May we all pray diligently for our leaders to believe and have the mind of Christ. 2 Timothy 2:1-4
God bless all on this forum with the wisdom of the Lord. May His comforting hand be on all.
July 14, 2022
I concur Steve.
The Law was given to Israel. The law given was to convict us of sin.
2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
Galatians 3:11-13.
Romans 7:4-5.
Romans 7:9-10.
Some aspects of the Law such as the Sabbath pointed to Christ work on the Cross that would free us from the curse of the Law. " Death"
Colossians 2:11-17.
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS:
HERE'S. THE KEY IN VERSE 17.
Vs.17) "Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."
Israel "as a nation" regects Christ work on the cross so as of now the have yet to join in that rest.( Yet they honor the Sabbath!)
Please study Hebrews 4:2-11.
That rest comes after salvation. Not to obtain it.
If one wants to observe the sabbath go ahead, but if you do it to earn salvation you fall in the same unbelief as Israel.
The Galatians was warned of the same thing in Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."
Salvation is not for sell its a gift. Ephesians 2:8-9. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
The LAW was our schoolmaster until, FAITH CAME.
Jesus came to fulfil all of the Law.
Church is whenever the doors are open and services are taking place. As often as Church is open, you can attend.
(Note:I don't debate this. People ask this question all of the time. If we aren't free of the Schoolmaster, then we are still under the Law.)
Streetpreacher
Just as people were resistant to follow Jesus in His day, we have people who read the above verses and dismiss them as important or "unnecessary." Man tries so hard to perform mental gymnastics to avoid doing something God wants us to do. He comes up with all these creative interpretations of cherry picked verses claiming that when it says to be baptized, it doesn't actually mean it, or is symbolic, or no longer applies, or [fill in the blank].
What it comes down to is do you believe the Bible verses above or not? Do want to follow Jesus or not?
Is there a risk of being baptized? No.
Is there a risk of not being baptized? Yes.
How is this not an easy decision?
Bible clearly says to be baptized, but why is someone who wants to follow Jesus so adamant about not doing it? Physically you're wet for a couple minutes, then you dry off. Similar to what most people normally do daily anyway. So, the hesitancy probably isn't because of that. What else would motivate people to try so hard to disobey Jesus then? Embarrassment? Many do it publicly, but you can also do it privately. What else makes people so desperate to disobey Jesus then? Something inside them is resisting. Maybe searching ones heart and motives and praying and study of the scriptures might help reveal ones real motives behind this.
So, when you asked, "So you do not believe in the scriptural "Age of Accountability"?", I do believe in an 'age of accountability', but unsure what you mean by the "scriptural Age of Accountability". Is there one even given, or does that age not actually represent an age in years, but an age of understanding & giving an heart-felt response? Those living in Jesus' Day & under the Law, were taught from childhood about the Law, obedience to it, of God's Character, & days to be observed. They lived under the Law & by it God judged them. After the crucifixion, the Law was abrogated, the Law that only brought death ( Romans 7:10). "for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law" ( Galatians 3:21) & there wouldn't have been a need for Jesus' Death. So, I simply share this to highlight that, pre-Cross, the Hebrew child was taught the Law, of sin & urged to keep the Law (age was of no concern). Post-Cross, the child is alerted when wrong is committed (i.e. God's Law is broken), but now there is an immediate solution found in the Cross, & faith in Jesus.
Let me pause for a second to say this is not a message on whether we keep the commandments or not. This is about the nature of the Un generated heart of man apart from Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit by those who are in Christ.
When speaking of the law we think of the writings of Moses and the commandments, etc.
Let's take a look at the purpose of the law and the effects and condition of those under it.
THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW.
Galatians 3:24.
Also take a look at Romans 7:7 .... (I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.)
THE EFFECTS AND CODITION OF THOSE UNDER THE LAW.
Here in Romans 7:23. we have Paul describing the warring of the old nature and the new nature in a believer.
"But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members."
Here in Romans 8:3-7. we have a picture of the flesh held captive by the curse of the law.
(For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,)
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, NEITHER INDEED CAN BE.
THE LAWS CONCLUSION.
So, the law showed us our fallen and sinful condition, and the law also couldn't change the heart of man that's why we have to be born from above. This is what the new birth does and how it is in relationship to baptism. As seen Galatians 3:24-27.
See Pt 3.
I am FREE from unforgiveness and strife. I forgive others as Christ has forgiven me, for the love of God is shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Ghost.
Jesus bore my sins in His Body on the tree. Therefore, I am dead to sin and alive unto God and by His stripes I am healed and made whole.
Jesus bore my sickness and carried my pain. Therefore I give no place to sickness or pain. For God sent His Word and healed me.
Father, because of Your Word I am an overcomer. I overcome the world, the flesh and the devil, by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of my testimony.
You have given me abundant life. I receive that life through Your Word and it flows to every organ of my body, my heart, bringing healing and health.
Heavenly Father, I attend to Your Word. I incline my ears to Your sayings. I will not let them depart from my eyes. I keep them in the midst of my heart, for they are life and healing to all my flesh.
No evil will befall me. Neither shall any plague come near my dwelling. For You have given Your angels charge over me. They keep me in all my ways. In my pathway is life, healing and health.
Jesus took my infirmities and bore my sicknesses. I receive your life into my body, Jesus
Therefore I refuse to allow sickness to dominate my body. The Life of God flows within me bringing healing to every fiber of my being. My breathing will obey My Lord.
I am redeemed from the curse. Galatians 3:13 is flowing in my blood stream. It flows to every cell of my body, restoring life and health, breath.
My faith rests in You, Jesus.
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. God has a plan for salvation and we have no right to change it by our interpretation of the word 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: These are not my word, they are scripture By Which we as CHRISTIANS must live by. I submit this in the love of Jesus and the hope of seeing his will, that NO MAN SHOULD PARRISH !
It shows even in Exodus when the Law was ordained the outward cleansing couldn't get you into the presence of the LORD.
There was no new heart of flesh!
No rebirth, No death of the old man, Just symbolic cleansing and sacrifices that pointed forward to one coming and also even then highlighted the inability of man to cleanse himself from sin.
Our best efforts apart from Holyspirit cannot present us blameless, nor can it restore us!
We are cleansed, saved, sanctified and kept by the Spirit IN US.
This particular area of scripture is highlighted in Galatians 3:23-24. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
This is where the Law began.
Sometimes we loose sight that the Gospel was preached to Abraham 430 years before this point.
Galatians 3:17. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. So when we take in all of Galatians 3. with the giving of the law by Moses we see the purpose of the law and the reason why it is called the ministration of Death and Paul said when the Law was given it slew him.
Romans 7:7-11.
2 Corinthians 3:6-10.
The purpose of the law was in mind when it was first given and illustrated with the barriers in Exodus.
God bless.
Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, but it (the inheritance) is no more of PROMISE, but God gave it to Abraham by PROMISE.
We have to know what this PROMISE is.
The PROMISE was A SEED.
Luke 8:11 ....THE SEED .....is THE WORD OF GOD.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD (THE SEED), and the WORD (THE SEED) was with God, and the WORD (THE SEED) was God.
Now we know Christ is the SEED, but Christ is also the ANGEL of the Lord; therefore HIS SEED, those born of GOD will also be an angel, because we have become ONE.
Ephesians 2:15 ....for to make IN HIMSELF ONE NEW MAN.
Isaiah 63:9 ....and the ANGEL of HIS (the Father, SPIRIT) presence SAVED THEM.
Christ is the ANGEL.
A SEED always duplicates itself, wheat seed always makes wheat seed, it's a LAW of GOD.
When Christ the SEED is planted in you; at maturity you will be the exact same SEED: two; you and Christ, become ONE.
Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added for transgressions, till THE SEED (the WORD, Christ); could come to whom the promise was made; and it (the SEED) was ordained by angels (THE SEED of the SEED) in the hand of a mediator.
1 Timothy 2:5 For the is ONE GOD (ONE SEED), and ONE MEDIATOR, between God and MEN; the MAN Jesus Christ (the SEED).
Psalms 82:6 I (the WORD, the SEED) have said ye are gods (SEED made like the SEED planted), all of you are the children of the most HIGH (the SEED).
THE SEED IS ETERNAL LIFE.
1 Timothy 6:16, ...who (the SEED) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....
God Bless YOU!