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  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Galatians 3:16 - 4 years ago
    Alex, keep prophesying the tenth (fruitfruits) well understand.
  • Alex on Galatians 3:16 - 4 years ago
    Comments about Isaiah 49, Isaiah 11 and Psalms 72 We see the Gransons The King is gonna have a Son which was Solomon but Solomon is symbolic of the H.G.Thats what Solomon means is Comforter H.G. and Solomon was the Granson. Symbolic of the H.G. THE COMFORTER. There is a great judge coming which is the H.G. THE COMFORTER Christ Offspring. He BREATH on them and they received the H.G YA gotta realize his breath was his word, his Seed thats is gonna impregnate this whole world with a spirit which is the H.G. ISAIAH describes the Davidic kingdom as Jesse, David and Solomon, Father son and granson, And Solomon was the great judge like no other in the O.T. Without this Father, Son, AND GRANSON SCENARIO THERE CANNOT BE AN ISRAEL OF GOD,God swore by his very self when he made this Promise of multiplication,Thats y he told Moses my name is abraham issac and jacob this is father son and granson that became the nation of Israel,but there is an ISRAEL OF GOD COMING WHICH IS ALSO FATHER SON AND GRANSON. Just as Solomon came out of the loins of David. the H.G comes out of the loins of Christ,HE BREATH ON THEM THAT WAS HIS SEED, his Word thus the H.G CAME OUT OF HIS LOINS, His seed etc. Thats y he refers to the H.G as the promise,Its his seed etc th gransons that are gonna be as the stars of heaven.Give the King thy judgements O God and thy righteounsness UNTO THE kINGS SON THAT WAS SOLOMON BUT IS PROPHETIC OF the H.G. the Kings Son ( Christ's Sons ) The GRANSON, tHE BEGINNING OF AN Israel of God that is gonna be born in US via that good seed his word etc The new covenant. The book in the Fathers righthand. Christ is not impotent, he has a seed to sow in humanity,Which is the word the Gransons. All nations are gonna call him blessed talking bout Solomon which is prophetic of the H.G. Christ which is IMMANUEL God with us.Blessed be his Holy name forever, let the whole earth be filled with his GLORY AMEN.We will sing a new song in that day,not this old churchanity song much longer.
  • Alex on Galatians 3:16 - 4 years ago
    Comments by Alex about the Gransons that are the result of the new covenant, The words of God, th seeds of the sower. The children of Promise, spirits as God is spirit. Christ is not impotent he has a seed to sow in humanity. But this cannot happen till the book is opened which contains the living WORDS of God, the new covenant is gonna be sown in our hearts, Christ will not sire flesh and blood children simply b/c his seed is th living word the very seed of God. His offspring is the H.G. TH GRANSON THE CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM AS HE SAID. they are gonna be as the stars of heaven gonna be born in humanity. Ya gonna seed bumper stickers saying i am with CHILD of the H.G.I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven,behold me and the children, which is the H.G. the child of Promise for everyone.If i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me via his seed the word, that good seed that only Christ can sow in your hearts that new covenant, Our new hearts and new spirits is Christ in US. Isaiah 11 speaks of the babes and sucklings that are be in all his holy mountain they are gonna rule the world as the manchild will rule all the world. That new covenant is all inclusive. Jesus died for everybody. When he fed the multitudes he did not cull anybody . he makes his sun to shine on everybody. makes his rain to water everybody. If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink.God is no respecter of persons, he wants to impregnate this whole world with his precious seed the child is the H.G. THAT CHILD OF PROMISE. BEING BORNAGAIN OF AN INCORRUPTIBLE SEED ETC EVEN BY THE words of God the living words Just as Issac multiplied his father abraham, Christ is gona multiply his father GOD ALMIGHTY, THATS Y HE IS SAYING to whom the Word came it made them Gods and th scrip cannot be broken. meaning his word , His seeds cannot return unto him void, the church humanity is gonna have a baby,Christ is the FATHER thats y he is saying whosoever receives one child in MY NAME receives ME. GBU
  • Carleton - In Reply on Psalms 72 - 4 years ago
    My confession of faith on Repentance is the same as written here:

    "We believe in a true conversion, justification and new birth. In a true conversion there is sincere sorrow for sin and transgression, and condemnation thereof. The justification is obtained through conversion when believing upon the wrought- righteousness of Christ, becoming liberated from the debt of sin and judgement, whereby we are "born again" and renewed unto the image and nature of God through the renewing of the Holy Ghost."

    Luke 24:27 ; John 1:28 ; John 3:3 ; Acts 20:28 ; Romans 1:27 ; Romans 5:1 ; Galatians 3:26
  • The Elect of God and The Times of the Gentiles - In Reply on Romans 11:7 - 4 years ago
    Galatians 3:14

    That the blessing of Abraham MIGHT COME ON THE GENTILES through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

    Luke 21:24

    24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the (presently the elect) GENTILES BE FULFILLED.

    25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

    26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

    27And then shall they see the SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory.

    28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

    Comment by Mishael:

    The Gentiles were grafted in, to become the Elect. The Jews were grafted OUT. Google "the Graft" scriptures.

    The Jews are Spiritually blinded and deafened so they may not see or hear the Gospel of their Messiah Jesus Christ. They're certainly not going to believe God has divorced them.

    WHEN the "catching away" of the Church occurs. Blind eyes and deaf Ears are going to be OPENED suddenly. The Jews will suddenly BE THE ELECT once again. They will know only the Messiah can do what has been done. They will have to cling to Jesus during the 2nd half of Redemption: Rapture to staging of Armageddon.

    You must understand that even then; even after all the Miracles of Jesus preserving His Elect: some Jews will not relinquish their "control" over the power they have coveted for thousands of years.

    Fix your eyes on Jesus on walk right into His arms. This is your Beloved; your Husband: who has fully forgiven you and grafted you into the Vine once more, eternally. The Lord of Glory. Come back now.

    Mishael
  • Onyekachukwu Ogechi Levinus Alaka on 1 Corinthians 6:20 - 4 years ago
    Paul now concludes his teaching on why it matters that Christians run away from sexual immorality. His final point, begun in the previous verse, is that Christian people do not belong to themselves. We have been purchased by God. We are free in the sense that we have been freed from the law of sin and death ( Galatians 3:13), but we are not free in the sense that we are now self-owned and self-determined ( 1 Corinthians 6:12-13).

    If we are truly in Christ, we are truly not our own. Our lives, including our bodies, belong to God. This gives Him the ultimate authority to tell us what to do and what not to do with our bodies.

    It's important to notice something about this last argument against sexual immorality. It applies only to believers. Only those in Christ have been redeemed by His blood and brought from darkness to light ( 1 Corinthians 1:12-13). These words are not for those who remain in darkness. Paul is not commanding those outside the church, unbelievers, to live according to God's standards for sexual morality ( 1 Corinthians 5:12). Their sin is still sin, but one cannot expect them to recognize it as such ( 1 Corinthians 2:14).

    Rather, it is those who belong to God-and not to themselves-who are commanded to glorify God with their bodies. In fact, only those in Christ have an opportunity to use their bodies to bring glory to God. In fact, that is now the purpose our bodies are designed to serve.
  • T - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 4 years ago
    Will

    I see that when you first approach someone you will "attack" using bold statements through personal words. When you are asked questions about your response you will grab any "relevant" scripture you can find and post it. You won't use your own words to give an answer in response. This means one thing.. your heart is hardened and biased. You seem to come in here to confront and cause abrasion. I believe you know this.

    Since you won't respond heres but one scripture I will give you, sir;

    Galatians 3:26. What does that scripture mean to you? Not my words, it is directly from THE word.

    I pray for you to find peace within your heart and to overcome whatever spirit is causing abrasion and separation in your thoughts.

    God Bless
  • Bob Grove on Galatians 3 - 4 years ago
    Galatians chapter 3 verses 26 - 29

    28 There is neither Jew or Greek , there is neither bond or free , there is neither male or female : for ye are all one in Christ Jesus .

    29 And if ye be Christ's then are Abraham s seed and heirs according to the promise .
  • Onyekachukwu Ogechi Levinus Alaka on Galatians 3:26 - 4 years ago
    We become children of Abraham once we are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice. The Abrahamic Covenant and the promises God made, then, are still in effect. He is going to fulfill those promises. Abraham will have multiple billions of descendants. Now we see the real purpose of the covenant: Abraham's children actually, under God's spiritual purpose, also become God's children.
  • Darryl - In Reply on Psalms 63 - 4 years ago
    Hello, I do not agree with your conclusion. It sounds like you heard a few sermons, looked at the skin color of the person speaking and drew an assumption. If you believe people are equal then why focus on people's skin color? Doesn't that perpetuate a problem of treating someone differently for their color? Isn't that as arbitrary as looking at their height, shirt size, or shoe color? Correlation equals causation?

    I've personally heard numerous sermons from pastors on racism who happened to be white. Too many. Have you searched that topic on YouTube? I don't know what country you live in, but if the US is it the most free and has the lowest problem with racism than any country in the world. Where else do you have such freedom where anyone of any walk of life can excel in something and become a multimillionaire or billionaire? All skin colors have huge wealth in this country. It's hard to make a case for racism and oppression when it doesn't seem to apply to a large % of the population, only a loud minority who want entitlement. Also there are all skin colors in poverty and homeless on the streets. It's hard to explain how one skin color would be privileged when they're all in the same predicament. What if it wasn't skin color, but individual effort and habits? Is it possible that the media has an agenda that pushes inequality and tries to make everyone upset, even when many are thriving? Has the media successfully brainwashed everyone into believing something that hardly exists in most countries? The term for this phenomenon is called confirmation bias.

    Other countries that actually have slavery right now are meanwhile being ignored by the media. Even children have been enslaved and imported into some countries and somehow that is ignored and not in the media. There is a lot of hardship and difficulty in life, but a place where all colors can become rich and privileged like the US, claiming they are racist doesn't have much credibility- people come from all over the world to go there. If the oppression was true people would not want to go there.

    The Bible says all are equal: Galatians 3:28
  • Cheryl - In Reply on Galatians 3:28 - 4 years ago
    Emet! This is truth!
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Yes Israel is God's chosen people and this is proof

    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then ARE YE are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

    nothing about we "BECOME" or "SPIRITUAL SEED" it says ARE YE the seed of Abraham.

    I believe Christians are the chosen seed.

    Others want to believe those who deny Christ, who are ANTICHRISTS, are the chosen seed.

    please prove to me the antichrists are God's chosen from the Bible.

    King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.

    Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

    "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."

    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Jesus said his sheep hear his voice and well I believe him.
  • Greg - In Reply on James 1 - 4 years ago
    Chris,

    I appreciate your feedback concerning the Seventh Day.

    In considering the other side of the teaching that you presented, I will respond below.

    The Seventh day was declared by God BEFORE He chose Israel. This Law was established for ALL to obey and enjoy.

    The 10 Commandments are OT LAW, are they abolished?

    Do you still follow the 10 Commandments?

    Jesus abolished BLOOD Ordinances, and either partially or completely fulfilled OT prophecy concerning His first coming, but Christ did not come to abolish the LAW.

    So, then, if a person claims to have FAITH in Jesus but all of his WORKS are evil, where do you think this person ends up? Jesus tells us very plainly ( Matthew 7:23). Looks like FAITH has a lot to do with following the LAW ( Galatians 3:11-12) and with WORKS, ( James 2:17).

    The English word "week" is defined from the Greek word meaning "Sabbath" or "day of rest;" also a 7 day period of time.

    You state that the Lord God or His only begotten Son changed the holy Sabbath day based upon Scripture (from your understanding of Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10):

    "The first day of the week began to be recognized as the Lord's Day and that the Church began worshipping on that day"

    Acts 20:7, concerns the first day of the Sabbath in reckoning the 7 Sabbaths to Pentecost.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 has to do with preparation (work) for when Paul returns.

    Revelation 1:10 concerns John being taken "in the spirit" to the great and dreadful "day of the Lord" or the "Lord's day"

    when the Messiah shall return, and John is given testimony in relation to that. (Not Sunday!)

    None of these Scriptures you offer give authorization to change the Sabbath day from the SEVENTH DAY to the FIRST DAY of the week.

    Christ FORETOLD US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW. God did not give us instruction to change the Sabbath, neither did Jesus, nor did the Prophets and Apostles.
  • Chris - In Reply on James 1 - 4 years ago
    Thank you for your comments, "Seventh day is sabbath". I always maintain that if the foundation is not settled, then anything built thereon will be shaky. So, referring to your first comment: "The Sabbath was given to man Mark 2:27 at creation Genesis 2:2-3 it's not a day that God required just for the Israelite's to keep, which is why the 4th commandment starts with "remember" it is because the children of Israel had forgotten through hundreds of years of slavery in Egypt."

    It seems that your understanding of those Scriptures in Genesis & Mark applied not only to Israel but to all mankind, or more specifically to the 'other sheep' that were to come into Christ's fold. To this I disagree, for the following reasons:

    a. Exodus 31:13-17 & Ezek 20:12. Clear references as to who should keep the Sabbath & that it was given as not only a day of ceasing from all labours, but as importantly, a sign of the relationship between God & Israel. It was never intended to include Gentiles or the Church in such a requirement.

    b. Galatians 3:19. Shows that both the validity & finality of the Law (the whole Law) was fully realized at the death of Jesus Christ.

    c. Matthew 5:17. Jesus demonstrated that He alone could fulfil the whole requirements of the Law & none else. The Law was given because of "transgressions" but none could obey it fully to please God & satisfy its demands, since "if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law" ( Gal 3:21). So no Law could bring righteousness, even as a certain ruler learned ( Lk 18:18-24). If he believed he obeyed all of God's Law, how did Jesus pick him up on that point of selling all & following him? That man just had a quick lesson to find out that he in fact didn't obey it perfectly: he broke the very first commandment by placing his wealth, & maybe family & other assets, before his love for God.

    How then can we rest on the Law for anything except to know God's Mind & Purposes?
  • John L. - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 4 years ago
    Bob Hilt

    Seems like some serious hostility toward our brothers the JEWS.

    Did Jesus come back for the seed of Satan, or for the lost (looking to be found) Tribes of the house of Israel?

    Plenty of people that call themselves Jews are not ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9). Just as many today that call themselves Christian are not.

    Devout Jews believe in God OUR Father. Others are whatever they claim to be. An "unbelieving Jew" is called a Gentile; just as an unbelieving Christian is called a Gentile.

    The "Jews" that crucified Jesus CLAIMED to be Jews, as the High Priest was the leader of them. But their actions spoke of them that are of the synagogue of Satan.

    The Apostles were of the house of Israel (Jews); otherwise they would not have been chosen.

    Were not the JEWS PURPOSELY BLINDED BY GOD until the return of Jesus? ( Acts 28:25-28)

    Did God not say that He would restore His people; the JEWS? ( Romans 11:26) The Deliverer (Jesus) will turn ungodliness from Jacob (ALL 12 TRIBES)

    Are we not grafted into THEIR tree? ( Romans 11:17-24)

    Our brothers need our spiritual guidance, not our disdain ( Galatians 3:29).

    In addition, I do not believe that Jesus the King of the JEWS came speaking Greek. He spoke it when needed.

    Those that were with Jesus at the cross at the 9th hour knew the Hebrew words being spoken ( Matthew 27:46-47, Mark 15:34-36).

    The inscription left by Pilate was written FIRST in Hebrew.

    Hebrew is the language given by God to His chosen people.

    Hebrew is the only language that is both pictorial and phonetic, as well as having it's number system based upon it.

    The Hebrew letters form the words our Creator spoke when forming the world.

    Jesus is the Aleph and the Tav; not the Alpha and the Omega. Jesus is every word of Scripture. That ultimately is Hebrew, and not any other language.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Romans 11 - 4 years ago
    John l Part 2

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Romans 11 - 4 years ago
    John L - I believe that is true that all who are in Christ ARE the seed of Abraham as Paul states in Galations 3:29

    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then ARE are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

    I do not see anything about "becoming" or "spiritual seed"

    and if Christians are divorced Israel of Jeremiah 3:8 that means they shall be the object of the wrath of Satan in the Tribulation.

    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    God divorced Israel with the promise of remarriage

    Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:"

    Jesus in Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 - Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews are not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...
  • John L - In Reply on Romans 11 - 4 years ago
    If Israel is represented by all 12 Tribes, wouldn't that include everyone that believes? ( Galatians 3:29)
  • THE STORY OF TAMAR - In Reply on 2 Samuel 13:20 - 4 years ago
    2 Samuel 13

    David loved God, loved his family and loved his country. He was vulnerable through his deep love for all.

    Amnon had a dirty old uncle encourage him to pursue Tamar (Absalom's sister). The uncle tells him what to do. Tamar tried to reason with him that as half sister, David might give her as a wife. Amnon only wanted what he'd been whipped into a frenzy for. After the rape, he didn't want anything to do with her. Nobody told David about it. David did not know what was going on, in his own household but he found out. He was angry at Absalom.

    Tamar went to live in Absalom's house; in seclusion. Absalom simmered in anger 2 years before he dealt with Amnon.

    Tamar is shown in David's genealogy; which is unusual.

    Absalom was married? It's recorded he had 3 sons that must have died at birth because they are not in the genealogy. He had 1 daughter and he named her Tamar. She was a woman of fair countenance like her Aunt Tamar. I don't know how long she lived.

    Absalom did many many evil things. He raped all of his fathers concubines in full sight of town; and more. 2 Samuel 15

    Abdalom died hanging in a tree by his long beautiful dreadlocks. Joab is fetched and he stabs Absalom in the heart with 3 arrows; the troops with him smote and slew him afterwards.

    To conclude: the better question is what happened to Absalom's 1 daughter, that he named Tamar. Females were not in genealogies as a rule.

    I think David's daughter Tamar died of a broken messed up life. I think In honor of her suffering, he named his daughter Tamar, also. There is no record of the end of her life.

    Galatians 3:13 says, CURSED is any who dies by hanging on a tree. Absalom died on a tree. Judas died on a tree. Jesus died on a tree so that WE ALL MAY LIVE ETERNALLY.

    He was made a curse for our sakes.

    David's psalms represent a lot of heartache over his life, his kids, his choices. He loved large and suffered much.

  • D.J. - In Reply on 1 Maccabees 3:48 - 4 years ago
    Chris,

    I generally agree with you concerning the Apocryphal books.

    Please do not think that I am trolling you or nitpicking. It is absolutely not my intent at all.

    I do, however, believe that it is the righteous works of Abraham that built his faith in God and in turn built God's faith in Abraham. (something like- those to whom much is given, much is expected- I forget the Book / verse.

    As Jesus states: "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." ( Matthew 16:27)

    When the Lord and Savior returns, He will happily be looking upon the good works of His faithful servants.

    "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also" ( James 2:26), look at Romans 3:31, Galatians 3:12, James 2:18-20, etc.

    Our FAITH is plainly seen through our righteous acts (WORKS) by obeying the LAWS of God (which do not apply to

    usonly.when we don't break them).

    Have you looked into the Dead Sea Scrolls?
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Galatians 3:13 - 4 years ago
    How can we grow? How can we find the path? Believing and living the gospel. Sanctification, being born again. How can these things be? Who will deliver me from this corruption ,this body of death? O wretched man that I am! AH! come to the living water found in your redeemer! Come to the place of peace and rest found in no other! A living water rising endlessly unto eternal life. Lead us beside the still waters, show us the way unto the father. Help us, for Jesus sake.
  • Ann Hering - In Reply on John 5:43 - 4 years ago
    Remember Abraham's children by Hagar, Sarah, and Keturah represents "many" nations.

    Abraham is considered to be the progenitor of MANY NATIONS mentioned in the Bible, the Israelites, Ishmaelites ( Genesis 25:12-18) Edomites ( Genesis 36:1-43]) Amalekites ( Genesis 36:12-16) Kenizzites ( Genesis 36:9-16) Midianites and Assyrians ( Genesis 25:1-5) and through his nephew Lot he was also related to the Moabites and Ammonites.

    Believers IN CHRIST, by believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, was buried and rose again, all by grace through faith, WE get the PROMISE by FAITH just like Abraham!

    Galatians 3:18

    For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

    Galatians 3:29

    And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Abraham is not our father by progeny, but is our father by his example of FAITH!

    Romans 4:16

    Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all.
  • John - In Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4 - 4 years ago
    Thanks for the reply Chris, I'm happy to have a discussion.

    This will be a multi post reply (If this website allows all of them) as there is a lot to unpack with your questions.

    It seems there are some principles that need to be established in order for you to understand my position.

    1. We have two Natures. There are several names for the two natures all men struggle between.

    The new man and the old man, the flesh and the spirit, the carnal mind and the mind of Christ.

    Romans 8:7

    For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.

    God's Law is an expression of his nature, only when walking in the spirit (the new man/nature) can we follow it.

    Romans 8:8

    Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

    Galatians 3:27

    For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    (Which ties into this verse)

    Matthew 3:11

    "I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. (This is the non literal fire)

    Not only in this a spiritual fire but this fire is essential to being saved, which I believe we are not saved until we have endured to the end.

    1 Corinthians 3:15

    If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

    Galatians 2:20

    I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.

    Galatians 5:16-17

    But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.

    Galatians 5:24

    And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

    This theme occurs throughout all of scripture.

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  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on John 5:43 - 4 years ago
    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 - Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews are not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    Jeremiah 3:8 - And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15 - 4 years ago
    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews can be not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Matthew 24:29 - 4 years ago
    Jesse I suspect you do not understand the difference between judgment of the Church, the wrath of satan and the wrath of God. Please allow me to explain.

    1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth (angry) with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    If anyone chooses to disbelieve that the woman here is the bride of Christ, that is on them. well if there is show me from the scriptures please I want to know.

    Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all ONE one in Christ Jesus.

    Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

    There is only one bride, there is not a Jewish bride and another Christian Gentile brideS

    Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth (angry) with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Getting killed for Christ is not the wrath of God, otherwise Stephen, the prophets and the apostles who were killed suffered the wrath of God which is ridiculous.

    Noah was saved in the flood, Daniel was saved in the Lion's den, the 3 Hebrew children were saved in the furnace.

    God's wrath is poured out upon the wicked world, just like the plagues of Egypt. God's children did not suffer the plagues of Egypt and neither will his children in the tribulation who survive the wrath of the Satan.

    You should do a little history on the fate of the millions of Christians murdered in Communist Russia under Stalin.

    All we hear about is the 6 million.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Luke 21 - 4 years ago
    Mishael - God himself has to bring ISRAEL to the land, not the godless antichrist United Nations, whose printer used to be called Lucifer Publishing and now is Lucis publishing.

    Jeremiah 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Genesis 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY NATIONS have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, then where are all these MANY "jewish nations".

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews are not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Besides Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe does not equal many

    Jeremiah 3:8 - And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

    Israel and Judah had wars and different kings with different capitols. Samaria was capitol of Israel.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Does this mean that those in Christ ARE Abraham's seed?

    Micah 3:10 - They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
  • CHERYL D CARTER - In Reply on Galatians 3:13 - 4 years ago
    Be God inside minded ! Remember : This is a Faith walk. The storms of life will alway be there : BUT : Standing on God's word is worth it ! Yes ; It is hard : BUT Keep your eyes on God's word : Get Focused !
  • Adam - In Reply on Galatians 3:13 - 4 years ago
    Hi Tatenda,

    God doesn't promise us an easy life. I believe it's challenging for everyone and in different ways. I also believe that it is a test of our character. We all make mistakes and sin, but I believe should strive for good character and love- that of Jesus. This page shows verses on trials: Link - There are prominent characters in the Bible who have endured many trials, like Job, Moses, Paul. 2 Cor 12:10 talks about Paul learning the secret of being content, despite his hard circumstances. Phil 4:12-13. May God bless you!
  • Tatenda mawere - In Reply on Galatians 3:13 - 4 years ago
    I want to Believe in God in all my situations, but sometimes my belief faith and trust in the lord is blown at hard by my hardships and l start to believe there's no God at all. How can l overcome all this that happens when troubles shake me.


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