Hi Jaz. Not sure to whom you are directing this comment & particularly those two Scripture portions, so apologies if you are writing to brother Ronald.
My two bits worth for your comment: In Isaiah chapter 13, we read of God's denunciation of Babylon. When we get to verse 12, "I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir", the scene of that coming destruction is so great, that men (i.e. fighting men) would be so scarce to find, that if a man can be found alive, his life's worth would be akin to fine gold. That's my understanding - so am not sure what yours is.
And to Ezekiel 44:3 onwards. "Who is this prince?" I understand that the Rabbis generally believe that he refers to the coming Messiah. However, when we consider the passage, we note that the outer East Gate was kept shut and only the LORD God could enter through it. But the prince had access via "the porch of that gate". As well, we read in Ezekiel 45:22 that "upon that day (Passover), shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering". Also, this prince has sons to whom he gives gifts of inheritance ( Ezekiel 46:16). So clearly, this prince can never refer to the Messiah, Who would neither offer a sin offering nor have sons, rather to another person of high rank post-captivity (e.g. Zerubbabel, Nehemiah, or another 'prince among the people').
You did also state that "Christ is God manifest in the flesh because he was not born through lust but by the power of God's Holy Spirit and was filled without measure". That certainly is a great statement that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, but even this can be misunderstood, as we can read it as 'Jesus was endued with the fullness of God's Spirit at His Birth & thus became God in the flesh'; or, 'Jesus came forth from within God's Person to take on human flesh, always endued with God's Spirit'. Maybe you could clarify that for us. Thank you & blessings.
This section I will go back to Daniel 2, Daniel 7 and Daniel 9.
In these chapters notice the consistency in the players involved. "The beast, little horn, Prince of the people that shall come being one of them. We will trace this character back to revelation.
Daniel 2:32-45 Daniel interprets King Nebuchadnezzars dream, this is the history of the reign of the Gentiles nations from man's viewpoint with the metal images mixed with clay. ( BABYLON, MADO-PERSIA, GREECE, ROME.)
In Daniel 7 we see the same material presented differently.
You see the same material as a series of beast. This is a vision from Gods viewpoint.
Revelation 13:1-4 connects the beast in Daniel 7 to the Antichrist.
In Daniel 2;35-44 we see Christ destroy 4th and final kingdom and its ruler and set up his own everlasting kingdom.
( Daniel 2:44.) And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
( Also see Daniel 7:14.)
This haven't happened yet, and it didn't happen at the cross.
There's still not a kingdom or a King in Israel as described throughout the OT. And there is NO peace!
When studying these chapters, we see the little horn/beast rises out of these 10 horns/kingdoms.
Daniel 7:8-13 describes the end of this last and present empire.
There will be sacrifices in the kingdom. Isaiah 56:6-8. Zechariah 14:16. Jeremiah 33:15-18. Ezekiel 43:18. Ezekiel 46:24. Ezekiel 40:1-49.
Sacrifices never took away sins.
The sacrifices in the OT pointed forward to one who would come and take away sins and the sacrifices in the Kingdom will point backwards to the one who came and took away sins.
The Antichrist will present himself as Christ and the start of the expected Kingdom.
Welcome to the discussion, I think I may have seen some posts from you, possibly.
I think I agree with your statement about the Babylonian captivity because of: Jeremiah 34:8-22, There's also: Jeremiah 22:3,4,5,17, Ezekiel 22:7,29,
Daniel prophetic dreams & explanations, I try to line up with other scripture when I can.
However when you say "America" I have learned many people outside of USA, more often of the "America" Continents, will reference themselves as American, especially when immigrating into USA, likewise other Continental countries call them American, USA often called The States; I've learned in recent years. Being this is a globally active website I try to clarify USA. If you're speaking only of USA, I would like to comment to that. I feel it unfair to group all U.S. into that assessment. However many Psalms 62:10, treasonous, tyrannical leaders within industry, Ezekiel 46:18, banking, loans, education, political, etc Isaiah 5:7-8,, definitely fit into that. Quite possibly we, most of us, fall into the category of the oppressed more than the oppressors = that GOD will deliver, protect & bring justice: 2Peter 2, Psalms 37, Psalms 12:5, Ecclesiastes 5:8, Isaiah 54:15-17,
Hopefully these last few scriptures are encouraging
Being in the first person; most commentaries make this a rather self evident identifier of the author of the book. As to who finally wrote the manuscripts found today which are likely to have been inscribed after his death we can trust the integrity of the Word of God as preserving the truth.
The prince; would indicate a reference as I see it to the Messiah; who also is mentioned in the Book of Daniel. There are psalms which indicate the eastern gate ( Psalm 24?) is where the Messiah will enter when He first arrives after the Tribulation. These gates have been sealed up in past centuries; even from a Muslim character in the Middle Ages. It would seem that the "sides of the North" is a pattern of the heavenly one that Satan wanted to rule over as mentioned in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. There are likely places where earthly priests (including David) will co-reign with Christ; who rules during the Millenium reign before God Himself comes down with the heavenly Jerusalem afterwards. A specific entrance for the Messiah and others; as well as a sort of traffic control for people from all nations to enter the Holy City will necessitate an orderly procession.
As to an outer and inner court; the inner one was reserved in the past for the priest to enter once a year; the outer more frequently; and outside for the populous in general. With Christ having fulfilled the sacrifice once and for all; it would seem that a literal sacrifice would be a ceremonial one; and likely allows people who are still in natural bodies to be able to dwell among resurrected saints and Christ Himself in the Millennial period.
Some have ascribed symbolic language to the waters as well; however we only need to look at certain fresh water areas of life developing in the Dead Sea area today to see a partial fulfillment. With ALL ocean life destroyed; this sort of inland sea will be invaluable during the Millenium.
Being in the first person; most commentaries make this a rather self evident identifier of the author of the book. As to who finally wrote the manuscripts found today which are likely to have been inscribed after his death we can trust the integrity of the Word of God as preserving the truth.
The prince; would indicate a reference as I see it to the Messiah; who also is mentioned in the Book of Daniel. There are psalms which indicate the eastern gate ( Psalm 24?) is where the Messiah will enter when He first arrives after the Tribulation. These gates have been sealed up in past centuries; even from a Muslim character in the Middle Ages. It would seem that the "sides of the North" is a pattern of the heavenly one that Satan wanted to rule over as mentioned in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. There are likely places where earthly priests (including David) will co-reign with Christ; who rules during the Millenium reign before God Himself comes down with the heavenly Jerusalem afterwards. A specific entrance for the Messiah and others; as well as a sort of traffic control for people from all nations to enter the Holy City will necessitate an orderly procession.
As to an outer and inner court; the inner one was reserved in the past for the priest to enter once a year; the outer more frequently; and outside for the populous in general. With Christ having fulfilled the sacrifice once and for all; it would seem that a literal sacrifice would be a ceremonial one; and likely allows people who are still in natural bodies to be able to dwell among resurrected saints and Christ Himself in the Millennial period.
Some have ascribed symbolic language to the waters as well; however we only need to look at certain fresh water areas of life developing in the Dead Sea area today to see a partial fulfillment. With ALL ocean life destroyed; this sort of inland sea will be invaluable during the Millenium.
Who wrote the book Ezekiel, Why is a prince instead of a priest making offerings to God for the people,what does court refer to (house or church, why do they have to enter and exit on certain sides of the gates and what is the new moon and pool of water signiy? Thank you and GODBLESS.
Richard, we will be given a new body because we were raised with Christ (first resurrection); those in the second resurrection will be raised back in their fleshly bodies. They will go thru the tribulations of the flesh. Some places in scripture says two fold and others seven fold. We basically were in tribulation seventy years (or the days of our life). The scriptures say they will be in tribulation for the age. This age so for has been 2000 years; how long that age will last we don't know. Don't think that their judgements want be severe or short.
Ezekiel 46:16-18
We are the sons (firstborn) they are the servants to the firstborn; Christ being THE HEAD.
I THINK THESE CHAPTERS OF EZEKEIL ARE DESCRIBING HIERUESELEM, THE CITY THAT DESCENDS DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN FROM YAHUAH THATS TALKED ABOUT IN REVELATION CHAPTER 21. IF ANYBODY HAS OTHER INFO PLEASE CHIME IN. SHALOM
My two bits worth for your comment: In Isaiah chapter 13, we read of God's denunciation of Babylon. When we get to verse 12, "I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir", the scene of that coming destruction is so great, that men (i.e. fighting men) would be so scarce to find, that if a man can be found alive, his life's worth would be akin to fine gold. That's my understanding - so am not sure what yours is.
And to Ezekiel 44:3 onwards. "Who is this prince?" I understand that the Rabbis generally believe that he refers to the coming Messiah. However, when we consider the passage, we note that the outer East Gate was kept shut and only the LORD God could enter through it. But the prince had access via "the porch of that gate". As well, we read in Ezekiel 45:22 that "upon that day (Passover), shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering". Also, this prince has sons to whom he gives gifts of inheritance ( Ezekiel 46:16). So clearly, this prince can never refer to the Messiah, Who would neither offer a sin offering nor have sons, rather to another person of high rank post-captivity (e.g. Zerubbabel, Nehemiah, or another 'prince among the people').
You did also state that "Christ is God manifest in the flesh because he was not born through lust but by the power of God's Holy Spirit and was filled without measure". That certainly is a great statement that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, but even this can be misunderstood, as we can read it as 'Jesus was endued with the fullness of God's Spirit at His Birth & thus became God in the flesh'; or, 'Jesus came forth from within God's Person to take on human flesh, always endued with God's Spirit'. Maybe you could clarify that for us. Thank you & blessings.
Part 2.
This section I will go back to Daniel 2, Daniel 7 and Daniel 9.
In these chapters notice the consistency in the players involved. "The beast, little horn, Prince of the people that shall come being one of them. We will trace this character back to revelation.
Daniel 2:32-45 Daniel interprets King Nebuchadnezzars dream, this is the history of the reign of the Gentiles nations from man's viewpoint with the metal images mixed with clay. ( BABYLON, MADO-PERSIA, GREECE, ROME.)
In Daniel 7 we see the same material presented differently.
You see the same material as a series of beast. This is a vision from Gods viewpoint.
Revelation 13:1-4 connects the beast in Daniel 7 to the Antichrist.
In Daniel 2;35-44 we see Christ destroy 4th and final kingdom and its ruler and set up his own everlasting kingdom.
( Daniel 2:44.) And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
( Also see Daniel 7:14.)
This haven't happened yet, and it didn't happen at the cross.
There's still not a kingdom or a King in Israel as described throughout the OT. And there is NO peace!
When studying these chapters, we see the little horn/beast rises out of these 10 horns/kingdoms.
Daniel 7:8-13 describes the end of this last and present empire.
Revelation 19:19 amplifies. that. Hasn't happened yet.
CONCERNING THE SACRIFICES.
There will be sacrifices in the kingdom. Isaiah 56:6-8. Zechariah 14:16. Jeremiah 33:15-18. Ezekiel 43:18. Ezekiel 46:24. Ezekiel 40:1-49.
Sacrifices never took away sins.
The sacrifices in the OT pointed forward to one who would come and take away sins and the sacrifices in the Kingdom will point backwards to the one who came and took away sins.
The Antichrist will present himself as Christ and the start of the expected Kingdom.
God bless.
Leviticus 2:6,15, Ezekiel 46:15, John 6:50-51,
If these are the same account then much is written about her & her siblings, here are some: John 11, Luke 7:36-50, Luke 8:2,
Matthew 27:55-61, Matthew 28, Mark 15, Mark 16,
Hopefully these are helpful
Welcome to the discussion, I think I may have seen some posts from you, possibly.
I think I agree with your statement about the Babylonian captivity because of: Jeremiah 34:8-22, There's also: Jeremiah 22:3,4,5,17, Ezekiel 22:7,29,
Daniel prophetic dreams & explanations, I try to line up with other scripture when I can.
However when you say "America" I have learned many people outside of USA, more often of the "America" Continents, will reference themselves as American, especially when immigrating into USA, likewise other Continental countries call them American, USA often called The States; I've learned in recent years. Being this is a globally active website I try to clarify USA. If you're speaking only of USA, I would like to comment to that. I feel it unfair to group all U.S. into that assessment. However many Psalms 62:10, treasonous, tyrannical leaders within industry, Ezekiel 46:18, banking, loans, education, political, etc Isaiah 5:7-8,, definitely fit into that. Quite possibly we, most of us, fall into the category of the oppressed more than the oppressors = that GOD will deliver, protect & bring justice: 2Peter 2, Psalms 37, Psalms 12:5, Ecclesiastes 5:8, Isaiah 54:15-17,
Hopefully these last few scriptures are encouraging
The prince; would indicate a reference as I see it to the Messiah; who also is mentioned in the Book of Daniel. There are psalms which indicate the eastern gate ( Psalm 24?) is where the Messiah will enter when He first arrives after the Tribulation. These gates have been sealed up in past centuries; even from a Muslim character in the Middle Ages. It would seem that the "sides of the North" is a pattern of the heavenly one that Satan wanted to rule over as mentioned in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. There are likely places where earthly priests (including David) will co-reign with Christ; who rules during the Millenium reign before God Himself comes down with the heavenly Jerusalem afterwards. A specific entrance for the Messiah and others; as well as a sort of traffic control for people from all nations to enter the Holy City will necessitate an orderly procession.
As to an outer and inner court; the inner one was reserved in the past for the priest to enter once a year; the outer more frequently; and outside for the populous in general. With Christ having fulfilled the sacrifice once and for all; it would seem that a literal sacrifice would be a ceremonial one; and likely allows people who are still in natural bodies to be able to dwell among resurrected saints and Christ Himself in the Millennial period.
Some have ascribed symbolic language to the waters as well; however we only need to look at certain fresh water areas of life developing in the Dead Sea area today to see a partial fulfillment. With ALL ocean life destroyed; this sort of inland sea will be invaluable during the Millenium.
The prince; would indicate a reference as I see it to the Messiah; who also is mentioned in the Book of Daniel. There are psalms which indicate the eastern gate ( Psalm 24?) is where the Messiah will enter when He first arrives after the Tribulation. These gates have been sealed up in past centuries; even from a Muslim character in the Middle Ages. It would seem that the "sides of the North" is a pattern of the heavenly one that Satan wanted to rule over as mentioned in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. There are likely places where earthly priests (including David) will co-reign with Christ; who rules during the Millenium reign before God Himself comes down with the heavenly Jerusalem afterwards. A specific entrance for the Messiah and others; as well as a sort of traffic control for people from all nations to enter the Holy City will necessitate an orderly procession.
As to an outer and inner court; the inner one was reserved in the past for the priest to enter once a year; the outer more frequently; and outside for the populous in general. With Christ having fulfilled the sacrifice once and for all; it would seem that a literal sacrifice would be a ceremonial one; and likely allows people who are still in natural bodies to be able to dwell among resurrected saints and Christ Himself in the Millennial period.
Some have ascribed symbolic language to the waters as well; however we only need to look at certain fresh water areas of life developing in the Dead Sea area today to see a partial fulfillment. With ALL ocean life destroyed; this sort of inland sea will be invaluable during the Millenium.
2Chronicles 36:14-21, Nehemiah 9, Nehemiah 13:10-22,
Isaiah 56, Isaiah 58, Jeremiah 17:7-27, Amos 8:4-10,
Matthew 12:2-5, reference Ezekiel 46:1,12,
Matthew 12:8, Matthew 12:1-14, John 5:6-47, John 7:22-23, John 19:31, Matthew 23:23, Matthew 25:31-46
Daniel 9:2, searching the prophetic timelines,
Other years mysteries: Isaiah 61:2, Isaiah 63:4, Jeremiah 11:23, Jeremiah 17:8, Jeremiah 23:12, Jeremiah 48:44, Jeremiah 51:46, Ezekiel 46:17, Luke 4:19, Luke 13:8, Revelation 9:15, Daniel 11:6,
Sometimes in prophetic dreams things symbolized days & years,
additional amounts of time described at "times" Daniel 4:23,25,32, Daniel 7:25, Daniel 8:14,17,19,26
Weeks; Daniel 9:24-27, Daniel 12:1,9,
Days: Daniel 12:11,12,13, 2Peter 3:7-13,
Also a Day is like a thousand years unto The LORD: 2Peter 3:8, Psalms 90:4,
* Daniel 2:20-22, James 1:5,
Hopefully these are helpful to your study
Isaiah 58:1-14, Exodus 20:8, Exodus 20:10-11,
Exodus 31:13,14,16, Leviticus 16:31, Leviticus 19:3, Leviticus 19:30, Leviticus 23:1-8, Leviticus 24:8, Leviticus 25:2, Leviticus 25:4, Leviticus 25:17, Jeremiah 17:19-27, Lamentations 1:1-7, Isaiah 1:11-17, Isaiah 56:1-8, Ezekiel 20:12, Ezekiel 22:26,
Amos 8:4-8, Mark 2:27,
Matthew 12:8, Matthew 12:1-27, Mark 3:1-11, Luke 6:6-11, Luke 13:11-17, Luke 14:3-6, Luke 14:12-24, Luke 23:3-56, John 5:1-16, John 7:22-24,
Colossians 2:8-17,
James 2:1-26
2 Kings 24:1 , 2 Kings 24:10 -11
Jeremiah 27:6
I Chronicles 6:15
2 Chronicles 36:5 - 6 ,
2 Kings 25:22
Daniel 4:18
Seems to be.
Don't judge anything before its time._
I Corinthians 4:5
Daniel 1:1 - 4:1 - 37 (Daniel chapters 1 all the way through end of chapter 4)
Ezra 1:7
Jeremiah 28:11
Nehemiah 7:6
Ezra 2:1
Hopefully that helps.
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There's a lot, so you'll have to remember the one you're looking for
Ezekiel 46:16-18
We are the sons (firstborn) they are the servants to the firstborn; Christ being THE HEAD.
Colossians Chapter 2
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the NEW MOON, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
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Just so you know, satanist's celebrate it so as to pervert anything of the Bible. Be careful what literature you read.
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