Liars: Final warning of those in hell from Revelation 21:8
Definition: Merriam-Webster defines a liar as someone who tells lies. No comment here on how great that definition is..:(
I will state as I have numerous times that no names need to be given here; just a mere mention of politics whether "donkeys or elephants" should suffice. I have said to people on occasion that a liar is worse than a murderer. The Apostle Paul is my "exhibit A" in that he at least was complicit in murder but did it in ignorance ( 1 Timothy 1:13). What we can't say is that he ever lied about his intentions; everyone knew his impassioned motives in the persecution. Lying is probably the most common methodology for maintaining a lifestyle of sin; if not lying to ourselves as to what we are doing and the consequences it is lying to others for self promotion. There are scriptural instances of lying where the midwives told Pharoah that the babies he wanted to kill were born before they could get to them. ( Exodus 1:19). There are other cases where for instance the full census wasn't given of the Israelites (Levites excluded) because the evil was sensed in King David's request that Satan himself had supplanted his heart to perform. I won't quibble here on that but certainly when we find a lie as the only way to preserve a life it is different than when it is merely self promoting.
In concealing a matter; as a case study we aren't helping ourselves ( Prov. 28:13). Hiding our sins is only going to be destructive. We will in time be found out. Lying of course can attempt to distract from any sort of transgression so again it seems that it may be most dangerous and deliberately at the end of sins leading to damnation. We need to heed carefully David's reaction when Nathan said "YOU ARE THE MAN" ( 2 Samuel 12:7). Saul wasn't ever able to repent; even though he said that he sinned ( 1 Samuel 15:24). This is like Pharaoh in Exodus 9:27 or Judas in Matthew 27:4. Worldly sorrow.
We can see a principle involved when it comes to life and death. At the time of Moses; the Pharaoh commanded that the Jewish babies be killed ( Exodus 1:15-22). This involved the boys only; the midwives ignored this; thus Moses himself was preserved ironically his own mother was paid to nurse him until he was raised by Pharoah's daughter ( Exodus 2:8-10). Strange happenings indeed. Later we see the same thing happen under Herod in Matthew 2:16-18. The Lord warned Joseph and he was out of the area at this time. In these situations we can certainly see that taking a life is against God's law and therefore we must not follow man's law of such destruction. Satan is clearly attempting to destroy as many as he can created in God's image.
Abraham screwed up twice in regard to lying about his wife during famine and in another difficult situation because he feared for his life. God worked that out supernaturally to show the importance of the marriage covenant and the fact that Abraham was a Prophet. ( Genesis 12:11; Genesis 20:2). Amazingly in Genesis 26:7 Isaac did the same thing with Rebekka. You would thing the lesson would have been learned but clearly certain sins run in the family. What we don't know in these situations is whether those who housed these men's wives at the time would have tried to kill these men if they didn't say anything; since God Himself spoke to them probably not; or they wouldn't have succeeded. The last case involved a Philistine king; again pagans had their conscience pricked (in this case Isaac's behavior made it clear he was her husband). We should consider in all this the sanctity of marriage.
We see Biblical characters such as Jacob messing around with what would have been Esau's blessing. ( Genesis 27-29). Esau wanted his brother murdured ( Gen. 27:41). Heb. 12:16 shows Esau also was a fornicator; and previously had sold his birthright for food ( Gen. 25:29-34). So God allowed it
Thanks again GiGi for that extra valuable information. And particularly useful for any young person or soon-to-be Mother reading this thread, to know 'natural is truly the best for Momma & Bubba'.
Thank you GiGi. It did cross my mind as I gave my answer to Carol, that because folk lived for a longer period of time (though certainly not as long as those in the pre-Flood era), that Moses might have been nursed till the ages you've given & remained with his Mother for that extra time. Since I wasn't sure of that, I just used our present-day data. And if Moses was of that age, then of course, he would have been able to grasp much better about his heritage & family line/connections. So, thanks for the clarification & I hope Carol will take your response as the more probable outcome."
In the time of Moses a mother would nurse a child for 2-4 years of age. So, I think that Moses was closer to 4 or 5 (maybe older) before he went to live with the Egyptian princess. He may have continued to have contact with his family as he grew. WE do not know, but we can see that the princess had a kind and open heart.
Hello Carol. I believe that Moses learned that he was a Hebrew, being born from among the Israelites. As you know, he was only a babe, found in the bulrushes by Pharaoh's daughter, but was then, by the guidance of God, loaned back to his (Moses') mother to care for him. Then in Exodus 2:10 we read, "And the child grew, and she (Moses' Mother) brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water."
So the babe Moses was weaned by his natural Mother, who, like her husband, were from the tribe of Levi. As Moses came to an age when he was old enough for solid food (approx 6 months of age, or his Mother might have kept him for as long as she could, as a Mother would with her precious son), she might have whispered to him in simple terms of who he was & to whom he belonged. And as he grew in Pharoah's household, he would have learned further of his background & events leading to his position in the Egyptian royal family. But when Moses saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew man, he automatically took the Hebrew's side. This shows how Moses still held onto his strong connection to God's people & resisted his Egyptian ties & religion.
You can download the KJV Bible (the App from the KJB Online Site) from the App Store (Apple) or Play Store (Android). I find it very useful on my phone when I don't have my heavy Bible with me.
Honestly I don't know . When you say ' the mentally ill ' you are putting human beings into a group and labelling them as if they are all the same . God deals with us on an individual level . Imagine if you had ten children , all your children would be different from each other and you would have separate relationships with each one of them . It's the same with us and our God . All mentally ill people are individuals and God knows each one of them and us , personally as individuals . Whatever His judgements are , He is always righteous and merciful .
In the bible times wine used to be mixed reducing the intoxicating effect and allowing users to have few glasses but as the years have pass bay. the drinks of today they are capable of getting you drunk with just one or even half a glass.
when people are drunk they tend not to be InControl and most of the times making stupid decisions the best word is sins, today people get up early and go drink drinking until night time.
lets look at few scripturas
isaiah 28:7
pleased for yourself and pray God to open your heart and mind for understanding.
As the bible says those who are drunk have erred out of the way and the visons and judgement has became corrupt
in in short they have stumble and sined
7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
Proverbs 31:4-5
It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
Hi Debra, this is a common question and there's already an FAQ for that: Link
My thinking is if Jesus's first miracle was turning water into alcoholic wine, then no, it's not a sin. But moderation, as in everything, is key. It doesn't mean its not playing with fire, especially for some people who struggle with self control or addiction. To me, if someone is drinking every day, especially to "self medicate" or numb emotional pain, that is an addiction and alcoholism. That's very unhealthy, is a false crutch, and only makes life worse.
To anyone who was told it was unfermented and had zero alcohol, John 2:9-10 disproves that. I was told that in church too, but later found out it was a lie just to support a certain narrative. The Bible is the truth.
I'm not sure if your question was about GOD or man. I will try my best to answer it. Ironically " ambiguous " meaning double meaning._._
I think that GOD's WORD the Bible is clear, when we study, & pray for wisdom. James 1:5,
1st GOD gave people dominion: Genesis 1:26,27,28, = power, dominion ect. Within 2nd Generation & continued; 1st crime: Genesis 4:6-9, & Genesis 4:23, dominion with disregard for others, even anothers very life. Genesis 6:5, Exodus 1:8,13,16,22, even disregard for life of children
Even then though GOD doesn't disregard HE repayed. Exodus 12:29, Exodus 13:15, notice the whole chapter of Exodus 12, points to John 3:15,16,17, Again people with dominion & power disregarding life of innocent: Luke 22:1,2,7,20,54,63,64, continued; Luke 23:1,2,15,21,33,34,
Also: they killed their own children, Leviticus 18:21, Leviticus 20:1-8, that GOD had destroyed nations for that sin! 1Kings 11:7, 2Kings 23:10,
Jeremiah 32:35, ( how? ) it's unimaginable even to GOD ALMIGHTY ! Jeremiah 7:31, Jeremiah 19:5, 2Chronicles 33:9, 1Kings 11:1-12, Deuteronomy 6:14, Deuteronomy 7:1-8, why? Was it because they destroyed the children, had disregard for innocent lives of their own offspring? Images of GOD
Psalms 82:6, in context Psalms 82,
GOD will Judge: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18:5,6,10,14, Matthew 19:14, Mark 9:42, Luke 17:2, 2Peter 2:7-9, Psalms 9:7,
If your question is regarding "us" "believers" Luke 12:32, Revelation 21,
There will be suffering here on Earth but promises to those who endure, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Revelation 10, 2Timothy 2:3, Revelation 6:9-11,
Yes Brenni. There are only Ten Commandments given by God into the hand of Moses at Mt. Sinai. Exodus 34:27,28 confirms this number. There may be some who view the Ten Commandments in a different way, i.e. grouping of verses together, or separating them to form other commands, but if you look at Exodus 20:1-17, the Ten Commandments that we see here are listed in these ten verses: 3, 4, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.
If your friend is seeing Fifteen Commandments, maybe he can share the verses, as I have done. You may find that he either includes other verses or adds some that are not listed there. In any case, he will have to give you his references to show the extra five.
Are there really 10 Commandments in the Bible? (I've been asked to prove this.) The rules are: I have to use an "unadulterated," KING JAMES VERSION. I have to find exactly 10.
This friend says that there are 15 (in Deuteronomy), but "10" do not exist anywhere.
I have been witnessing to this paper editor for years;
Carl It is natural mans nature to have someone to look up to but not God, histroy proves this constantly. When God
called people out i.e. Moses Joshua the judges the profits, the reason the people revered them because they said what
and what they did and spoke GOD BACKED UP. IT Was the miraculous that got their attention and even then when their needs were met they complained. Again natural man and even a lot of so called Christians. Most natural men don't care who gets in office or power as long as it works for their purpose. An interesting note why does a candidate spent 30 million dollars for an office that pays 250,000 a year, its not logical. Most people mentally buy what an individual is telling them again when it fits
with what they think right or wrong as long as they profit. The children of ISRAEL IS A TREMENDOUS EXAMPLE OF THIS.
2 ND COR. 4 : 4 .KJV ..In whom the god of this present world has blinded the minds of them that believe not....Lest the light of this glorious Gospel of Christ who is the image of God should shine in them....Satan is truly the god of this present world...
Our beautiful America has become another Sodom and Gomarrah....And our leaders love it so....They say we must be politically correct ....God have mercy on this nation and all the world.
......ALL the world is becoming another Sodom and Gomarrah....And satan is the father of it....As Jesus said that Satan is the Father of all lies...GB...Plead the BLOOD of Jesus on all your Children every day....His blood is that New COVENANT that we all have to drink...Spiritually speaking...GB
Hi Carl lemme give ya my slant on this world and All the evil that is in it....From the time of ADAM to this present time ....Satan has tried to destroy mans life with wars and such....But God always worked with a few folks like Abraham and Issac and Jacob and Joseph....But there was none righteous no not one....Simply b/c Satan is the GOD of this present world and has Blinded the eyes of our leaders....OF ALL NATIONS....Just look at Russsia and this horrible war that is going on there....not even going to mention the horrible unrest in the streets of AMERICA A CHRISTIAN NATION....SUPPOSEBLY.....Our leaders are possesed with the Devil.
......Satan is truly the God of this present world....Even at this present time we are all taken with the things of this world.
.......But the GOOD NEWS is Christ that 2 nd adam has died for ALL THE WORLD.....He paid the price for every body.
........Many times i think about the 6.5 million JEWS that died in Hitlers death Camps....Satan is truly the God of this present
WORLD.....In Adam we all die but in Christ Jesus we will ALL LIVE....There is a new COVENANT ON THE HORIZON WHICH
STATES " I WILL KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST) ...When that Book is opened in the Fathers right hand...
.....Any way Carl thank you for that post GBU in Jesus name.
Definition: Merriam-Webster defines a liar as someone who tells lies. No comment here on how great that definition is..:(
I will state as I have numerous times that no names need to be given here; just a mere mention of politics whether "donkeys or elephants" should suffice. I have said to people on occasion that a liar is worse than a murderer. The Apostle Paul is my "exhibit A" in that he at least was complicit in murder but did it in ignorance ( 1 Timothy 1:13). What we can't say is that he ever lied about his intentions; everyone knew his impassioned motives in the persecution. Lying is probably the most common methodology for maintaining a lifestyle of sin; if not lying to ourselves as to what we are doing and the consequences it is lying to others for self promotion. There are scriptural instances of lying where the midwives told Pharoah that the babies he wanted to kill were born before they could get to them. ( Exodus 1:19). There are other cases where for instance the full census wasn't given of the Israelites (Levites excluded) because the evil was sensed in King David's request that Satan himself had supplanted his heart to perform. I won't quibble here on that but certainly when we find a lie as the only way to preserve a life it is different than when it is merely self promoting.
In concealing a matter; as a case study we aren't helping ourselves ( Prov. 28:13). Hiding our sins is only going to be destructive. We will in time be found out. Lying of course can attempt to distract from any sort of transgression so again it seems that it may be most dangerous and deliberately at the end of sins leading to damnation. We need to heed carefully David's reaction when Nathan said "YOU ARE THE MAN" ( 2 Samuel 12:7). Saul wasn't ever able to repent; even though he said that he sinned ( 1 Samuel 15:24). This is like Pharaoh in Exodus 9:27 or Judas in Matthew 27:4. Worldly sorrow.
We can see a principle involved when it comes to life and death. At the time of Moses; the Pharaoh commanded that the Jewish babies be killed ( Exodus 1:15-22). This involved the boys only; the midwives ignored this; thus Moses himself was preserved ironically his own mother was paid to nurse him until he was raised by Pharoah's daughter ( Exodus 2:8-10). Strange happenings indeed. Later we see the same thing happen under Herod in Matthew 2:16-18. The Lord warned Joseph and he was out of the area at this time. In these situations we can certainly see that taking a life is against God's law and therefore we must not follow man's law of such destruction. Satan is clearly attempting to destroy as many as he can created in God's image.
Abraham screwed up twice in regard to lying about his wife during famine and in another difficult situation because he feared for his life. God worked that out supernaturally to show the importance of the marriage covenant and the fact that Abraham was a Prophet. ( Genesis 12:11; Genesis 20:2). Amazingly in Genesis 26:7 Isaac did the same thing with Rebekka. You would thing the lesson would have been learned but clearly certain sins run in the family. What we don't know in these situations is whether those who housed these men's wives at the time would have tried to kill these men if they didn't say anything; since God Himself spoke to them probably not; or they wouldn't have succeeded. The last case involved a Philistine king; again pagans had their conscience pricked (in this case Isaac's behavior made it clear he was her husband). We should consider in all this the sanctity of marriage.
We see Biblical characters such as Jacob messing around with what would have been Esau's blessing. ( Genesis 27-29). Esau wanted his brother murdured ( Gen. 27:41). Heb. 12:16 shows Esau also was a fornicator; and previously had sold his birthright for food ( Gen. 25:29-34). So God allowed it
Now, if they are Hebrew (which they are), and if Moses knows this (which he does), then the math adds up, doesn't it?!
Thanks. But I realize that not every Mom breastfeeds their babies. So, I want to make it clear that I am not judging anyone for
choices in this area. That said, I do think that "natural' (as to cooperating with the nature God gave us) is usually better that
substituting something artificial or man-made in something as important as feeding our new babies. I just think that, as I look
at the bodies of women, some things are easy to discern as to what was God's intent in shaping us the way we are. I am just
one who wish to honor the way God made me and respect the process of childbirth and baby care as using my uterus and
breasts the way God has designed. Because I thought this way, I studied up on it before I even became pregnant with my first
baby. Funny, I even was a support person for my friend who had her first baby before me by a few years. We have been friends
for over 40 years.
Yet, each couple need to choose what God is leading them to do in this area. For me, the benefits to baby and to mom in
breastfeeding are so worth having. But most of all, we need to honor God with our bodies, respecting the way He designed our
bodies to work and endeavoring to live our lives in such a way to bring him glory. For many women, it is in breastfeeding. For
others it is not because their circumstances were very different than mine. I will always speak out for the value of breastfeeding,
but I will always be respectful towards each person's decision in this situation.
But the information of how Mom's fed their babies in ancient times and in many cultures untouched by modern society is
reliable. The sending of formula to third world countries for brand new moms have contributed to malnutrition in so many
babies and mom's. It would be better to send nutritious food for women throughout their pregnancies and the years they
breastfeed as it would reduce malnutrition in such communities in a much bigger way.
This is true of many non-westernized cultures where formula, bottles, baby food are not used. Often a new baby will be
born about the time the child is weaned at the ages mentioned. Many times a mother will continue to nurse the older child until
he/she weans. This was common practice. Babies were spaced about 2 years apart if the mother had normal fertility and would
not have long periods of months of menstruating between pregnancies. This is healthier than how we do things today. God's
design is better than what we have "progressed to today. Babies and toddlers get the best food/nutrients from momma's milk
and other foods gradually become a part of the child's normal meals. With scarcity of food or variety not guaranteed, the longer
the child consumes mother's milk the more nutrition he/she receives and thus the child is more healthy. Also, mothers would
end up having far fewer cycles of fertility than women do now and thus their bodies would not have as much flux of hormone
changes across time, which is healthier for the mother, especially for the prevention of breast cancer.
I acquired this information when I was planning our first child as I studied the subject so I could make the best choices for my
kiddos and avoid some of the common issues that inhibit breastfeeding success in our culture. We are lucky to live in a culture
where food is readily available to both mom and babies, but in other cultures in our world, food scarcity and reliance on formula
often lead to malnutrition for both mom and baby as mom does not get enough nutrients to sustain her during pregnancy and
babies do not get enough nutrition because formula is often watered down with unsanitary water to make it last longer.
In the time of Moses a mother would nurse a child for 2-4 years of age. So, I think that Moses was closer to 4 or 5 (maybe older) before he went to live with the Egyptian princess. He may have continued to have contact with his family as he grew. WE do not know, but we can see that the princess had a kind and open heart.
So the babe Moses was weaned by his natural Mother, who, like her husband, were from the tribe of Levi. As Moses came to an age when he was old enough for solid food (approx 6 months of age, or his Mother might have kept him for as long as she could, as a Mother would with her precious son), she might have whispered to him in simple terms of who he was & to whom he belonged. And as he grew in Pharoah's household, he would have learned further of his background & events leading to his position in the Egyptian royal family. But when Moses saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew man, he automatically took the Hebrew's side. This shows how Moses still held onto his strong connection to God's people & resisted his Egyptian ties & religion.
When did he find out?
Deuteronomy 28,
Hopefully these are helpful
when people are drunk they tend not to be InControl and most of the times making stupid decisions the best word is sins, today people get up early and go drink drinking until night time.
lets look at few scripturas
isaiah 28:7
pleased for yourself and pray God to open your heart and mind for understanding.
As the bible says those who are drunk have erred out of the way and the visons and judgement has became corrupt
in in short they have stumble and sined
7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
Proverbs 31:4-5
It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
My thinking is if Jesus's first miracle was turning water into alcoholic wine, then no, it's not a sin. But moderation, as in everything, is key. It doesn't mean its not playing with fire, especially for some people who struggle with self control or addiction. To me, if someone is drinking every day, especially to "self medicate" or numb emotional pain, that is an addiction and alcoholism. That's very unhealthy, is a false crutch, and only makes life worse.
To anyone who was told it was unfermented and had zero alcohol, John 2:9-10 disproves that. I was told that in church too, but later found out it was a lie just to support a certain narrative. The Bible is the truth.
God bless
I thank God for your all for sharing this bible link. I am blessed by this.
I'm not sure if your question was about GOD or man. I will try my best to answer it. Ironically " ambiguous " meaning double meaning._._
I think that GOD's WORD the Bible is clear, when we study, & pray for wisdom. James 1:5,
1st GOD gave people dominion: Genesis 1:26,27,28, = power, dominion ect. Within 2nd Generation & continued; 1st crime: Genesis 4:6-9, & Genesis 4:23, dominion with disregard for others, even anothers very life. Genesis 6:5, Exodus 1:8,13,16,22, even disregard for life of children
Even then though GOD doesn't disregard HE repayed. Exodus 12:29, Exodus 13:15, notice the whole chapter of Exodus 12, points to John 3:15,16,17, Again people with dominion & power disregarding life of innocent: Luke 22:1,2,7,20,54,63,64, continued; Luke 23:1,2,15,21,33,34,
Also: they killed their own children, Leviticus 18:21, Leviticus 20:1-8, that GOD had destroyed nations for that sin! 1Kings 11:7, 2Kings 23:10,
Jeremiah 32:35, ( how? ) it's unimaginable even to GOD ALMIGHTY ! Jeremiah 7:31, Jeremiah 19:5, 2Chronicles 33:9, 1Kings 11:1-12, Deuteronomy 6:14, Deuteronomy 7:1-8, why? Was it because they destroyed the children, had disregard for innocent lives of their own offspring? Images of GOD
Psalms 82:6, in context Psalms 82,
GOD will Judge: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18:5,6,10,14, Matthew 19:14, Mark 9:42, Luke 17:2, 2Peter 2:7-9, Psalms 9:7,
If your question is regarding "us" "believers" Luke 12:32, Revelation 21,
There will be suffering here on Earth but promises to those who endure, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Revelation 10, 2Timothy 2:3, Revelation 6:9-11,
Hopefully these are helpful
If your friend is seeing Fifteen Commandments, maybe he can share the verses, as I have done. You may find that he either includes other verses or adds some that are not listed there. In any case, he will have to give you his references to show the extra five.
This friend says that there are 15 (in Deuteronomy), but "10" do not exist anywhere.
I have been witnessing to this paper editor for years;
Anyone know? THX!
Brenni Veit
called people out i.e. Moses Joshua the judges the profits, the reason the people revered them because they said what
and what they did and spoke GOD BACKED UP. IT Was the miraculous that got their attention and even then when their needs were met they complained. Again natural man and even a lot of so called Christians. Most natural men don't care who gets in office or power as long as it works for their purpose. An interesting note why does a candidate spent 30 million dollars for an office that pays 250,000 a year, its not logical. Most people mentally buy what an individual is telling them again when it fits
with what they think right or wrong as long as they profit. The children of ISRAEL IS A TREMENDOUS EXAMPLE OF THIS.
Our beautiful America has become another Sodom and Gomarrah....And our leaders love it so....They say we must be politically correct ....God have mercy on this nation and all the world.
......ALL the world is becoming another Sodom and Gomarrah....And satan is the father of it....As Jesus said that Satan is the Father of all lies...GB...Plead the BLOOD of Jesus on all your Children every day....His blood is that New COVENANT that we all have to drink...Spiritually speaking...GB
......Satan is truly the God of this present world....Even at this present time we are all taken with the things of this world.
.......But the GOOD NEWS is Christ that 2 nd adam has died for ALL THE WORLD.....He paid the price for every body.
........Many times i think about the 6.5 million JEWS that died in Hitlers death Camps....Satan is truly the God of this present
WORLD.....In Adam we all die but in Christ Jesus we will ALL LIVE....There is a new COVENANT ON THE HORIZON WHICH
STATES " I WILL KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST) ...When that Book is opened in the Fathers right hand...
.....Any way Carl thank you for that post GBU in Jesus name.