Should a Christian man touch his girlfriend ? ? I know we all live in a world that touching runs very rapidly in our society.
My dad always told us, no girls in the house. I was scared to death to even think of a girl around my dad.
Apostle Paul warns us about touching a woman. It also means the opposite as well. If we have problems with lust, touching will be more of a problem.
1 Corinthians 7:1
Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good foramannottotouchawoman.
How should a man date a woman ? ? A man and woman should both be in there Bibles studying and thanking God for Salvation. They should never be alone for temptation will come. It's best to have godly people around at all times.
1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath notemptationtaken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with thetemptationalso make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Once and man and a woman touch each other, they become husband and wife. Jesus Christ said to the Samaritans woman, you have five husbands.
John 4:18
For thou hast hadfivehusbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.
We all know that the New Testament speaks of one husband and one wife in marriage. The Old Testament, there were man with more wife's.
1 Corinthians 7:3
Let thehusbandrender unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto thehusband.
It's really comes down to what doctrine are we going to follow to live a great Christian life, I choose the Apostle Paul's epistle because he was chosen from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:34
For David is notascendedinto the heavens: but he saith himself, TheLordsaid unto myLord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is achosenvesselunto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Apostle Paul always writes to believers in all his epistles.
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John 8:36 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Jesus Christ is Father and the Son same language you can understand is God for us to be heirs to all the world. To believe you can do and follow Jesus and become what your expected to be the truth of God Romans 8:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 7:22 KJV. This is the life to live also exhibited. It is used in
discipleship- to show the Holy bible is life
saints/ citizens- free from sin Galatians 5:1 KJV, liability, set free from thraldom, ransom Mark 10:45 KJV, evil ,captivity of Satan.
Freedom from the laws, rules, thraldom that are not of God moral and obedience to it. You are titled to freedom to the house of God and his supper. A example of analogy used family of God Himself.
Ways you can be free from sin are to listen to God's voice and word to obey and follow " do it" (speaking, actions, attention of communications)
Examples of people in the holy bible that made themselves free in God you can read and follow are Romans 1:1, 2 Peter 1:1, Revelation 1:1 .
1 Corinthians 7:33 - But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
But he that is married cares, and again that's MERIMNA. He's occupied for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
1 Corinthians 7:34 - There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
He says there is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares for the things of the Lord, again the word cares is the word MERIMNA. In order that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married cares (MERIMNA), for the things of the world, and how she may please her husband.
1 Corinthians 10:4 - And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
The rock is PETRA. It's the same word that Jesus used back in Matthew 16:18 when he called Peter a PETROS, a pebble, but he says upon this PETRA, meaning Himself, I will build the church. PETROS and PETRA are two different words in Greek. PETROS is the pebble, and PETRA is the slab or the foundation stone.
But it is interesting that five times it is mentioned that everybody received the provision of God, and everybody ate the same spiritual meat and the same spiritual drink from the rock, and the rock that followed them was Christ.
1 Corinthians 10:5 - But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
But with many of them God was not well pleased:
It didn't say all. In the Greek text, it expresses the majority. Everybody but two. That's a lot of people! God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. That is, their bodies were scattered in the desert. They were killed!
1 Corinthians 7:32 - But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
Paul says, but I would have you to be without carefulness. There are two Greek words, MERIMNA, and MERIMNAO, and it is a Greek word that means to have the attention of your mind occupied. It is Satan's only weapon against the believer as the bible says.
Jesus said do not be anxious for your life, what you shall eat, drink, or what you shall put on. That's the word MERIMNA. A human being was created with the capacity to only serve one thing. You cannot serve God and mammon, which is physical things. It's impossible! I can say I do because I believe it with my head, but with my life, who am I serving? What am I serving?
So, after I am saved, my soul belongs to Christ. And then what Jesus wants me to do is He wants me to go hear His word so that my mind will be renewed, transformed, and changed. So, you can see why that's Satan's only weapon. It keeps our mind occupied. People can even go to church or go to bible study, and really it means absolutely nothing because their mind is thinking of all the things they're going to do when they get out. They are not even paying attention. They are not focused on the things that we should be focused on.
Satan's only weapon is the occupation of the attention of the mind, not the occupation of the mind, but the occupation of the attention of the mind. He attempts to keep our minds busy and to wear them out to where we have nothing left for Christ. Paul says I want you to be without MERIMNA.
Here's the teaching on devotion: He that is unmarried cares, and that's the word MERIMNA, is occupied for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
1 Corinthians 7:21 - Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
Are you called being a servant? Literally a slave in the Greek. That's a literal slave that has been purchased out of the marketplace, and some human being owns him. Did you get saved while you were a slave? Let it not be a concern to you:
And you can just see the "slave union" marching down Main Street and saying, "Now that we are Christians, we want our rights!" Paul is saying "What rights? God saved you as a slave and He wants to use you to minister to the other slaves. Don't let it bother you. Whatever your circumstance is, you serve Christ!" But if you may be made free, use it.
1 Corinthians 7:31 - And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
And those that use the world, as not abusing it: The word abusing is literally "over using." We have to use the world. We've got to eat. We have to work. We have to take care of our necessities. But he says don't over use it. We tend to not use the world for our necessities, but we get totally occupied.
1 Corinthians 7:1 - Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
There are various commentaries that will tell you the different views about what the word touch means. It doesn't mean just to come in contact with somebody. In fact, the Greek word is the word HAPTO, and it means to cling or to be attached. As a reference, we can look at John 20:17, after Jesus rose from the dead and He said to Mary, "don't touch me." She was clinging to His ankles, and she wasn't going to let Him go.
He's saying that you have to stop clinging to me because I have not yet ascended up to my Father. So, it doesn't mean don't touch. It means don't fasten yourself onto something and not let go
1 Corinthians 7:3 - Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
He says let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence. In the Greek, it's that which is owing to her. So that which is owing to her, and likewise also the wife what is owing to the husband.
1 Corinthians 7:4 - The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
The wife has not power, and that's literally the word authority. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does: and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Hitting at the very source, probably the biggest problem in a marriage relationship is when people play games with the physical side of the relationship. Paul says that is not to be because your body belongs to the partner for what satisfies him or her. And this so that a person can avoid fornication. If he or she is happy, they won't go looking around elsewhere. So, God has made that provision within the marriage relationship.
Dear Psf1. I was so sad to read of this situation in your home & have prayed/will continue to pray for this matter & specifically for the Lord's blessed work in your husband's heart & life. I can hardly imagine the toll this must take on you, when you are trying your best to show him love & care & in return shows disregard. The fact that he is not a Christian would be a major factor in his behavior, although one cannot rule out other things that are on his heart & mind (whether concerning work, finances, friendships, health, etc.). Would he even consider sitting down with you to share his heart & concerns, or even have a meeting with a counselor (a Christian one preferably), so a third party can listen & advise you both impartially? Has his behavior changed suddenly or over a period of time? These are all questions you must have labored over.
In any case, clearly you still have much love & devotion towards him in spite of his attitude, & you should continue to do so, even expressing it to him verbally so that he knows how you feel & what you are going through (mentally & emotionally) in all this. Your continued loving presence in his life is so important, even as the Scripture reminds us that, 'if the unbelieving husband is pleased to continue in the marriage & live with his wife, the husband is sanctified by the wife'. ( 1 Corinthians 7:13,14). And this means that your loving godly presence & influence in the home is the best testimony your husband could receive of God's Love, God's Work in your life, and what God can do in him to help & heal him. May the Spirit of God work wonderfully & mightily in both of you, that together you both may enjoy God's Perfect Will in your lives & a truly loving marriage. The Lord very specially be with you in this matter.
"This is the day that THE LORD has made we shall rejoice and be glad in it [ Psalm 118:24] We believe and have faith that all our prayers are heard and answered[ Matthew 21:22] We also know that through the Grace of YAH and by the power of The Blood of YESHUA / CHRIST that David, his daughters and every member of their young families are covered, bought and paid for in full [ 1 Corinthians 7:23]. the wicked one shall have no legal rights over any area of their lives. This family is set apart and sealed unto good works [ Ephesians 2:10]. May The HOLY SPIRIT of YAH/ GOD descend upon each person and may each person be aligned with the Will of YAH for their lives so that HIS decree that HIS Will be done on earth [in their lives] become an exact replication of what HE has already designed, commanded and destined in the heavens [ Matthew 6:10; Romans 8:28-30]. In YESHUA NAME I declare that the presence of the HOLY SPIRIT of YAH be upon this whole house as a wall of fire round about and as HIS Glory in their midst [ Zechariah 2:5] And may eat of the fruits of the Holy Spirit of YAH/ GOD - peace, joy, love, faith, goodness, kindness, gentleness, sobriety & patience [ Galatians 5:22-23] and May all their needs be met [ Philippians 4:19] In YESHUA NAME. Amen!"
This is the day that THE LORD has made we shall rejoice and be glad in it [ Psalm 118:24] because we believe and have faith that all our prayers are heard and answered[ Matthew 21:22] We also know that through the Grace of YAH and by the power of The Blood of YESHUA / CHRIST David, his daughters and every member of their young families are covered, bought and paid for in full [ 1 Corinthians 7:23]. the wicked one shall have no legal rights over any area of their lives. This family is set apart and sealed unto good works [ Ephesians 2:10]. May The HOLY SPIRIT of YAH/ GOD descend upon each person and may each person be aligned with the Will of YAH for their lives so that HIS decree that HIS Will be done on earth [in their lives] become an exact replication of what HE has already designed, commanded and destined in the heavens [ Matthew 6:10; Romans 8:28-30]. In YESHUA NAME I declare that the presence of the HOLY SPIRIT of YAH be upon this whole house as a wall fire round about and as HIS Glory in their midst [ Zechariah 2:5] as the fruits of the Holy Spirit of YAH/ GOD in peace, joy, love, faith, goodness, kindness, gentleness, sobriety & patience [ Galatians 5:22-23] and May all their needs be met [ Philippians 4:19] Amen!
Thanks for responding and sharing your thoughts. I'm not sure an exegesis on those three verses I pointed out would be necessary as they seem pretty straight forward as to what Paul was saying. If the words Paul spoke in 1 Corinthians 7:12, 1 Corinthians 7:25, and 2 Corinthians 11:17 were the exact words that God wanted him to use (as you are convinced of), by Paul's very own words, he seemed to indicate otherwise.
In 1 Corinthians 7:25, Paul says "I'm going to give (my) judgment, as one that has obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful." Here, he began by saying that he had no commandment from the Lord, and so he gave his own judgment. God didn't give Paul any commandment or give him the exact words to speak. Was Paul at liberty to do so? I believe so. Paul said he had obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. So, Paul was at liberty to speak for himself, as one having obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. God trusted Paul to speak. God trusted Paul to be faithful, even during the times where Paul was speaking his own words.
Again, I do thank you for sharing your view on those verses. However, we do see Paul's words differently. It's not that important that we are in agreement on this. I was just wanting to see what you thought about those verses.
As far as there being "certain principles that we are to use in interpreting the Bible," I am not sure what those principles are? There is only one principle that I believe and that is that the infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture to be Scripture itself.
I totally agree with you where you said, "if we introduce principles from our own mind that are not found in the Bible, we will not come to truth." That is true! It can also be said that we in the body of Christ many times will not come to truth even when we are introducing principles from the bible!
I agree with most of what you are saying, however, if "every word, every verse, every chapter in the ENTIRE Bible is from the mind and mouth of God Himself," as you have said, how should we view what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7:12, 1 Corinthians 7:25, and 2 Corinthians 11:17?
In 1 Corinthians 7:12, Paul says, "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away."
So here, Paul says (he) speaks, not the Lord. He says we don't have anything from the Lord on this, but here's what I (Paul) teach in the churches about these relationships.
In 1 Corinthians 7:25, Paul says, "now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord:"
Some of the men were saying, "Well, I have a daughter who's never been married, and you know how corrupt this town is and the men that are in it, and I don't want my daughters to come near those immoral men of the city." What are we to do?
Paul says I have no commandment from the Lord, but I'm going to give my judgment, as one that has obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
In 2 Corinthians 11:17, Paul says, "That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting." Was this Paul speaking for himself?
Just curious as to you view these verses. I understand these to be Paul's own words. Any thoughts? thanks!
Hello SheD: I am so sorry to hear how unhappy you are. "Lord I pray that for your child and I ask that Your will be done and this marriage can be healed completely. Please show this sweet sister what it is that You would have her do to begin this healing. You are a great, great God of love and peace and I pray that you will pour all Your love on her and her husband. It seems, Lord, that he may need Your salvation, that his heart is not in the right place with you, so I pray he will be convicted and give his heart to you that Your blessed salvation will be his so he will have the love of Christ in his heart and for his wife. I pray Lord that this sister will put her eyes on you and trust you completely that your will is done. Oh Lord, give her strength to be all that she can be as the wife you would want her to be even if her husband doesn't respond right away. Give her patience mightily to treat this man with Your love and to do it with the fruit of the spirit. Your, precious word says that the way of a wife sanctifies the husband because he sees her loving him as You love her. I pray dear Lord, again, that above all else in this trouble our sister is going through, that Your will be done. and this marriage is healed in a beautiful way. Amen" God Bless :)
1 Peter 5:7 says that we should cast all our cares on Him because He cares for us. Several passages in Psalms discuss God's compassion and or mercy. Romans 9:15 states that He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy; and compassion on whom He will have compassion. Ultimately; of course that involves those who come to saving faith in Christ; but of course for now it rains on the just and the unjust. ( Matthew 5:45). Luke 18:38 shows how Bartimaeus asked for mercy and Christ healed his blindness.
According to Lamentations 3:22 his compassions they fail not; and that is due to His mercy that we are not consumed. The theme there is the destruction of the Babylonians with the horrible famine in particular focus. This verse could be taken as physical survival of the ordeal but also spiritual preservation of the soul. God always preserves a remnant; and God honors His covenants and that is through the remnant that is purged in various trials.
God's Attributes: Covenants
I have discussed covenants in particular focus on the marriage covenant in previous posts. I have given at least an outline of the (imlied) covenant with Adam and the first one in scripture regarding the rainbow and God preserving the world from another global flood; the Abrahamic Covenant; the Mosaic Covenant; and finally the new covenant that Christ has given His people under the blood and how it is even more stringent with thoughts and intentions than the previous one (see Matthew 5:20 on exceeding the righteousness of the Pharisees). I will reinforce the fact that except for the abrogation of the Old Covenant in terms of the law and righeousness for the New under Christ; covenants in God's eyes are eternal; or at least as far as the terms made between men and God or even between men as to the length (in marriage it is until "death do us part" which fits in with 1 Corinthians 7:39.) We are not to take a vow flippantly ( Ecc. 5:4-6).
My belief (and I do believe that I rely on the written Word of God) is:
One may divorce his/her wife/husband because of adultery as seen in Matthew 5:31-32. God does not demand people to stay with someone who is not faithful to them.
BUT
They can not remarry again as seen in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11:
"10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11 But and if she depart(AND THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED BECAUSE OF ADULTERY), let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife."
Also see 1 Cor 7:39, "39 "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
So as a conclusion a man can divorce his wife ONLY if she has committed adultery, BUT afterwards he must accept that he must stay unmarried for his whole lifetime OR until his wife dies. Then he is free to remarry any woman he wishes. The alternative way is to forgive his wife and stay with her. The same is valid for a woman. So your girl friend if she marries that man, then they will both find themselves in a sinful situation.
How to reconcile these four passages in light of the scriptures you have presented? 1 Corinthians 7:19 , Rev 12:17 , Rev 14:12 , Rev 22:14?... either the bible is full of contradictions or there is misunderstanding of biblical text. btw, Constantine passed a Sunday law in 321 A.D.
Amen, & I think these verses say it best.. John 3:17 For God sent not His son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through Him might be saved. 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. 12:31 Now is the judgement of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 12:47 And if any man hear my words & believe not, I judge him not; For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world (it's a choice). 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye (you) might have peace, in the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. 17:14, I have given them the word, & the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 1 Corinthians 7:31 they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away. James 4:4 Ye adulterers & adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world, is the enemy of God. 1John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in Him. 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes & the 'pride' of life, is NOT of the Father, but is of the world. 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God, overcome the world & this is the victory that overcome the world, even our faith. *next verse I have a Qs: does it mean that we don't have to believe in Christ walk on earth to be saved yet we must believe that He died for our sins to be saved? Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come*. which kinda goes with John 12:47 does it not? I've always heard & live by, "just because we are in the world doesn't mean we have to be of the world".! God bless 'Texsis'
I was not looking for a response but thank you. You said that "a verse has to be interpreted in accordance to the text of which it is a part of."
I fully agree with that and that is why I said what I did about Verse 39. I used it in context with the four verses you shared.
Now as far as this word patience in Hebrews 10:36, I'm guessing that you already know that the word patience doesn't do that verse any justice.
The proper word is endurance, not patience. There is a difference if we take it from an English standpoint.
But why endurance? And why after we have done the will of God? And why would we need to endure after receiving the promise.
Endurance comes first. So how do we do the will of God? By remaining under our circumstances. Giannis, I believe you already know that the word used in Verse 36 is the word HUPOMENO and it doesn't mean patience. It means to endure or remain under. That's how we do the will of God, by remaining under our circumstances and trusting Him. That's endurance.
As far as Hebrews 10:26 is concerned, that verse has nothing to do with a saved person walking away from or losing salvation.
Now in Hebrews 10:29, where it says "wherewith he was sanctified," that word sanctified does not necessarily mean salvation. Yes, the word sanctified (HAGIOS) means to be set apart, and when we receive Christ, we are sanctified, or set apart for His purposes.
But if you are saying that sanctified means salvation, what do we do with 1 Corinthians 7:14, "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy."
Please let me ask you this. Do you know what would happen to a Jewish person back in Jesus' day if they would receive Jesus as their Messiah?
The bible makes it very clear that the responsibility of leadership in marriage falls squarely on the husband's shoulders. 1 Corinthians 11:3 says that "Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ."
The scripture states that the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church. A good husband loves his wife unconditionally and is a servant leader just like Christ.
Unconditional Love
In Ephesians 5:25 the bible commands husbands to love their wives just as Christ loved the church, and gave Himself up for her." A husband's love for his wife should not be based on her actions. He should respect, affirm and love her at all times.
Sacrifice
Sacrificial action is an integral part of the husband's role as the head of the home. Again, Christ is a wonderful example of this. He demonstrated servant leadership by washing his disciple's feet. In marriage, being a servant leader means ensuring that the wife's material, emotional and spiritual needs are met.
Ephesians 5:25-33, Colossians 3:19, 1Peter 3:7-22, 1Corinthians 7:3-17, these are part of the scripture in context because you've only asked the Husband's duty.
Giannis, thanks for mentioning the part about adultery. I found that in several passages related to re-marriage when the spouse is still living, regardless of the circumstances. When I think about it, it would be like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. Things could be worse.
You have done the right thing dear sister and God has blessed you for obeying Him in your life. The church I am serving doesn't remarry divorced people and also doesn't give divorces for any other reason than adultery. We are very firm about it. But this is very rare to find nowadays in christianity, most churches have given up to their members' demand for remaryring, but that leads to adultery since in God's eyes remarriage is not valid. So what is our (born again christians) difference with the worldly churches, non really (even worse since we actually know the truth but don't follow it).
Thank you Chris for your encouragement. I stopped giving my testimony years ago because of such an unpleasant response, even from church members: some who had been unequally yoked, even if the spouse had gotten saved and all was well; some who had been touched by re-marriage somewhere in their family. It was my story, but they were offended My 1st pastor was at a loss & would not comment on the situation; 2nd pastor would not perform a ceremony for divorced people because of an oath he had made to God when he went into ministry, but said I could get married at justice of peace and then both parties could serve at his church; 3rd pastor said being released from bondage meant that I was free to re-marry and he would do ceremony as long as the union was "in the Lord". Even pastors were not willing to embrace the truth and stand on it. But I could not get past the stigma that would be there if my husband was living. It seemed the only way to have a clean slate and start over with the best odds of having a successful relationship, & be married in the church with full support was for my husband to die first. Then there would be no questions or argument about it, and less stress for me. It became my sanity. In the meantime, I never ran into anyone that I was interested in that met the criteria of "in the Lord". I had a few boyfriends along the way and each time I asked myself how would I have more peace ? with or without them -- it was always without them. I have had a wonderful life and a career that provided very well for me and great friends and family. I had not looked at these verses in decades. I received word recently that my husband's health is failing and he is on kidney dialysis now, and I started wondering if I had mis-interpreted scripture way back then. So I re-read all the verses and they seemed clearer now than before and found this website when clarifying the meaning of bondage. I am encouraged now to give my testimony if asked about my situation.
That was heartening to read, Jrpon, of your faithfulness to the Lord & to your marriage vows. In spite of maybe times of loneliness & a patient waiting on the Lord for His provision, you have proved the sufficiency of His Grace to surmount those trials. Yes, many have carelessly entered into an unequal/unloving marriage & have suffered through it & regretted it. But the comfort that He gives, is His special peace, that He has not forgotten you & will only give you His very best to live this life for Him. John 14:27.
Thank you for this reminder. When taken along with the verses surrounding I Cor 7:15 about letting the unsaved leave and you are no longer under bondage , but God has called you to live in peace, it helps to clarify bondage. Some would say that if you are no longer under bondage, then you are free to re-marry. I hold that you are no longer responsible to the unsaved who left, but you still have a responsibility to your oath "til death do you part" made to God in the marriage ceremony. NOT "til divorce do you part". It does seem harsh that the saved should be bound to the oath until death of the spouse, but God is big enough to allow me to outlive spouse if he wants me to remarry. 46 years ago when I was very young and saved, I married an unsaved man and it was a horrible experience. I confessed it within 2 weeks of the marriage and told God that I was sorry but I would keep my oath but need his grace to do it. In the 3.5 yrs I was married, my husband periodically tried to convince me there was no God, and then convince me that WE should get a divorce. I told him there was a God and WE would not be getting a divorce because I had made an oath til death do us part, but he could make his own decisions. He did not want marriage but did not want responsibility for divorce either. He finally left, filed divorce and I let him go. I was free from him but still had my oath. Due to severe diabetes he had been on death bed twice and I thought he would not live long. 43 yrs later he is still alive, with multiple near death experiences, and I am still unmarried. The only way I can explain it is that God has given husband multiple opportunities to get saved, to no avail. And I guess his death would be wasted if God has not brought all the puzzle pieces together yet for me to have a partner. It is easy to fantasize how my life could have been if I had remarried years ago, but many people have that with much sorrow. I will never know what horrors God has saved me from.
"For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man". The same goes for the husband, if his wife dies he is free to marry another woman. GBU
Should a Christian man touch his girlfriend ? ? I know we all live in a world that touching runs very rapidly in our society.
My dad always told us, no girls in the house. I was scared to death to even think of a girl around my dad.
Apostle Paul warns us about touching a woman. It also means the opposite as well. If we have problems with lust, touching will be more of a problem.
1 Corinthians 7:1
Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good foramannottotouchawoman.
How should a man date a woman ? ? A man and woman should both be in there Bibles studying and thanking God for Salvation. They should never be alone for temptation will come. It's best to have godly people around at all times.
1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath notemptationtaken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with thetemptationalso make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Once and man and a woman touch each other, they become husband and wife. Jesus Christ said to the Samaritans woman, you have five husbands.
John 4:18
For thou hast hadfivehusbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.
We all know that the New Testament speaks of one husband and one wife in marriage. The Old Testament, there were man with more wife's.
1 Corinthians 7:3
Let thehusbandrender unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto thehusband.
It's really comes down to what doctrine are we going to follow to live a great Christian life, I choose the Apostle Paul's epistle because he was chosen from the ascended Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:34
For David is notascendedinto the heavens: but he saith himself, TheLordsaid unto myLord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is achosenvesselunto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Apostle Paul always writes to believers in all his epistles.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
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John 8:36 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Jesus Christ is Father and the Son same language you can understand is God for us to be heirs to all the world. To believe you can do and follow Jesus and become what your expected to be the truth of God Romans 8:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 7:22 KJV. This is the life to live also exhibited. It is used in
discipleship- to show the Holy bible is life
saints/ citizens- free from sin Galatians 5:1 KJV, liability, set free from thraldom, ransom Mark 10:45 KJV, evil ,captivity of Satan.
Freedom from the laws, rules, thraldom that are not of God moral and obedience to it. You are titled to freedom to the house of God and his supper. A example of analogy used family of God Himself.
Ways you can be free from sin are to listen to God's voice and word to obey and follow " do it" (speaking, actions, attention of communications)
Examples of people in the holy bible that made themselves free in God you can read and follow are Romans 1:1, 2 Peter 1:1, Revelation 1:1 .
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1 Corinthians 7:33 - But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
But he that is married cares, and again that's MERIMNA. He's occupied for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
1 Corinthians 7:34 - There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
He says there is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares for the things of the Lord, again the word cares is the word MERIMNA. In order that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married cares (MERIMNA), for the things of the world, and how she may please her husband.
1 Corinthians 10:4 - And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
The rock is PETRA. It's the same word that Jesus used back in Matthew 16:18 when he called Peter a PETROS, a pebble, but he says upon this PETRA, meaning Himself, I will build the church. PETROS and PETRA are two different words in Greek. PETROS is the pebble, and PETRA is the slab or the foundation stone.
But it is interesting that five times it is mentioned that everybody received the provision of God, and everybody ate the same spiritual meat and the same spiritual drink from the rock, and the rock that followed them was Christ.
1 Corinthians 10:5 - But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
But with many of them God was not well pleased:
It didn't say all. In the Greek text, it expresses the majority. Everybody but two. That's a lot of people! God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. That is, their bodies were scattered in the desert. They were killed!
1 Corinthians 7:32 - But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
Paul says, but I would have you to be without carefulness. There are two Greek words, MERIMNA, and MERIMNAO, and it is a Greek word that means to have the attention of your mind occupied. It is Satan's only weapon against the believer as the bible says.
Jesus said do not be anxious for your life, what you shall eat, drink, or what you shall put on. That's the word MERIMNA. A human being was created with the capacity to only serve one thing. You cannot serve God and mammon, which is physical things. It's impossible! I can say I do because I believe it with my head, but with my life, who am I serving? What am I serving?
So, after I am saved, my soul belongs to Christ. And then what Jesus wants me to do is He wants me to go hear His word so that my mind will be renewed, transformed, and changed. So, you can see why that's Satan's only weapon. It keeps our mind occupied. People can even go to church or go to bible study, and really it means absolutely nothing because their mind is thinking of all the things they're going to do when they get out. They are not even paying attention. They are not focused on the things that we should be focused on.
Satan's only weapon is the occupation of the attention of the mind, not the occupation of the mind, but the occupation of the attention of the mind. He attempts to keep our minds busy and to wear them out to where we have nothing left for Christ. Paul says I want you to be without MERIMNA.
Here's the teaching on devotion: He that is unmarried cares, and that's the word MERIMNA, is occupied for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
1 Corinthians 7:21 - Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
Are you called being a servant? Literally a slave in the Greek. That's a literal slave that has been purchased out of the marketplace, and some human being owns him. Did you get saved while you were a slave? Let it not be a concern to you:
And you can just see the "slave union" marching down Main Street and saying, "Now that we are Christians, we want our rights!" Paul is saying "What rights? God saved you as a slave and He wants to use you to minister to the other slaves. Don't let it bother you. Whatever your circumstance is, you serve Christ!" But if you may be made free, use it.
1 Corinthians 7:31 - And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
And those that use the world, as not abusing it: The word abusing is literally "over using." We have to use the world. We've got to eat. We have to work. We have to take care of our necessities. But he says don't over use it. We tend to not use the world for our necessities, but we get totally occupied.
1 Corinthians 7:1 - Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
There are various commentaries that will tell you the different views about what the word touch means. It doesn't mean just to come in contact with somebody. In fact, the Greek word is the word HAPTO, and it means to cling or to be attached. As a reference, we can look at John 20:17, after Jesus rose from the dead and He said to Mary, "don't touch me." She was clinging to His ankles, and she wasn't going to let Him go.
He's saying that you have to stop clinging to me because I have not yet ascended up to my Father. So, it doesn't mean don't touch. It means don't fasten yourself onto something and not let go
1 Corinthians 7:3 - Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
He says let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence. In the Greek, it's that which is owing to her. So that which is owing to her, and likewise also the wife what is owing to the husband.
1 Corinthians 7:4 - The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
The wife has not power, and that's literally the word authority. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does: and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Hitting at the very source, probably the biggest problem in a marriage relationship is when people play games with the physical side of the relationship. Paul says that is not to be because your body belongs to the partner for what satisfies him or her. And this so that a person can avoid fornication. If he or she is happy, they won't go looking around elsewhere. So, God has made that provision within the marriage relationship.
In any case, clearly you still have much love & devotion towards him in spite of his attitude, & you should continue to do so, even expressing it to him verbally so that he knows how you feel & what you are going through (mentally & emotionally) in all this. Your continued loving presence in his life is so important, even as the Scripture reminds us that, 'if the unbelieving husband is pleased to continue in the marriage & live with his wife, the husband is sanctified by the wife'. ( 1 Corinthians 7:13,14). And this means that your loving godly presence & influence in the home is the best testimony your husband could receive of God's Love, God's Work in your life, and what God can do in him to help & heal him. May the Spirit of God work wonderfully & mightily in both of you, that together you both may enjoy God's Perfect Will in your lives & a truly loving marriage. The Lord very specially be with you in this matter.
Thanks for responding and sharing your thoughts. I'm not sure an exegesis on those three verses I pointed out would be necessary as they seem pretty straight forward as to what Paul was saying. If the words Paul spoke in 1 Corinthians 7:12, 1 Corinthians 7:25, and 2 Corinthians 11:17 were the exact words that God wanted him to use (as you are convinced of), by Paul's very own words, he seemed to indicate otherwise.
In 1 Corinthians 7:25, Paul says "I'm going to give (my) judgment, as one that has obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful." Here, he began by saying that he had no commandment from the Lord, and so he gave his own judgment. God didn't give Paul any commandment or give him the exact words to speak. Was Paul at liberty to do so? I believe so. Paul said he had obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. So, Paul was at liberty to speak for himself, as one having obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. God trusted Paul to speak. God trusted Paul to be faithful, even during the times where Paul was speaking his own words.
Again, I do thank you for sharing your view on those verses. However, we do see Paul's words differently. It's not that important that we are in agreement on this. I was just wanting to see what you thought about those verses.
As far as there being "certain principles that we are to use in interpreting the Bible," I am not sure what those principles are? There is only one principle that I believe and that is that the infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture to be Scripture itself.
I totally agree with you where you said, "if we introduce principles from our own mind that are not found in the Bible, we will not come to truth." That is true! It can also be said that we in the body of Christ many times will not come to truth even when we are introducing principles from the bible!
Blessings!
I agree with most of what you are saying, however, if "every word, every verse, every chapter in the ENTIRE Bible is from the mind and mouth of God Himself," as you have said, how should we view what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7:12, 1 Corinthians 7:25, and 2 Corinthians 11:17?
In 1 Corinthians 7:12, Paul says, "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away."
So here, Paul says (he) speaks, not the Lord. He says we don't have anything from the Lord on this, but here's what I (Paul) teach in the churches about these relationships.
In 1 Corinthians 7:25, Paul says, "now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord:"
Some of the men were saying, "Well, I have a daughter who's never been married, and you know how corrupt this town is and the men that are in it, and I don't want my daughters to come near those immoral men of the city." What are we to do?
Paul says I have no commandment from the Lord, but I'm going to give my judgment, as one that has obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
In 2 Corinthians 11:17, Paul says, "That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting." Was this Paul speaking for himself?
Just curious as to you view these verses. I understand these to be Paul's own words. Any thoughts? thanks!
Blessings to you!
Galatians 5:22
1 Corinthians 7:4
1 Peter 5:7 says that we should cast all our cares on Him because He cares for us. Several passages in Psalms discuss God's compassion and or mercy. Romans 9:15 states that He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy; and compassion on whom He will have compassion. Ultimately; of course that involves those who come to saving faith in Christ; but of course for now it rains on the just and the unjust. ( Matthew 5:45). Luke 18:38 shows how Bartimaeus asked for mercy and Christ healed his blindness.
According to Lamentations 3:22 his compassions they fail not; and that is due to His mercy that we are not consumed. The theme there is the destruction of the Babylonians with the horrible famine in particular focus. This verse could be taken as physical survival of the ordeal but also spiritual preservation of the soul. God always preserves a remnant; and God honors His covenants and that is through the remnant that is purged in various trials.
God's Attributes: Covenants
I have discussed covenants in particular focus on the marriage covenant in previous posts. I have given at least an outline of the (imlied) covenant with Adam and the first one in scripture regarding the rainbow and God preserving the world from another global flood; the Abrahamic Covenant; the Mosaic Covenant; and finally the new covenant that Christ has given His people under the blood and how it is even more stringent with thoughts and intentions than the previous one (see Matthew 5:20 on exceeding the righteousness of the Pharisees). I will reinforce the fact that except for the abrogation of the Old Covenant in terms of the law and righeousness for the New under Christ; covenants in God's eyes are eternal; or at least as far as the terms made between men and God or even between men as to the length (in marriage it is until "death do us part" which fits in with 1 Corinthians 7:39.) We are not to take a vow flippantly ( Ecc. 5:4-6).
Hello Rad
My belief (and I do believe that I rely on the written Word of God) is:
One may divorce his/her wife/husband because of adultery as seen in Matthew 5:31-32. God does not demand people to stay with someone who is not faithful to them.
BUT
They can not remarry again as seen in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11:
"10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11 But and if she depart(AND THAT IS ONLY ALLOWED BECAUSE OF ADULTERY), let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife."
Also see 1 Cor 7:39, "39 "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
So as a conclusion a man can divorce his wife ONLY if she has committed adultery, BUT afterwards he must accept that he must stay unmarried for his whole lifetime OR until his wife dies. Then he is free to remarry any woman he wishes. The alternative way is to forgive his wife and stay with her. The same is valid for a woman. So your girl friend if she marries that man, then they will both find themselves in a sinful situation.
I was not looking for a response but thank you. You said that "a verse has to be interpreted in accordance to the text of which it is a part of."
I fully agree with that and that is why I said what I did about Verse 39. I used it in context with the four verses you shared.
Now as far as this word patience in Hebrews 10:36, I'm guessing that you already know that the word patience doesn't do that verse any justice.
The proper word is endurance, not patience. There is a difference if we take it from an English standpoint.
But why endurance? And why after we have done the will of God? And why would we need to endure after receiving the promise.
Endurance comes first. So how do we do the will of God? By remaining under our circumstances. Giannis, I believe you already know that the word used in Verse 36 is the word HUPOMENO and it doesn't mean patience. It means to endure or remain under. That's how we do the will of God, by remaining under our circumstances and trusting Him. That's endurance.
As far as Hebrews 10:26 is concerned, that verse has nothing to do with a saved person walking away from or losing salvation.
Now in Hebrews 10:29, where it says "wherewith he was sanctified," that word sanctified does not necessarily mean salvation. Yes, the word sanctified (HAGIOS) means to be set apart, and when we receive Christ, we are sanctified, or set apart for His purposes.
But if you are saying that sanctified means salvation, what do we do with 1 Corinthians 7:14, "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy."
Please let me ask you this. Do you know what would happen to a Jewish person back in Jesus' day if they would receive Jesus as their Messiah?
Leadership
The bible makes it very clear that the responsibility of leadership in marriage falls squarely on the husband's shoulders. 1 Corinthians 11:3 says that "Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ."
The scripture states that the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church. A good husband loves his wife unconditionally and is a servant leader just like Christ.
Unconditional Love
In Ephesians 5:25 the bible commands husbands to love their wives just as Christ loved the church, and gave Himself up for her." A husband's love for his wife should not be based on her actions. He should respect, affirm and love her at all times.
Sacrifice
Sacrificial action is an integral part of the husband's role as the head of the home. Again, Christ is a wonderful example of this. He demonstrated servant leadership by washing his disciple's feet. In marriage, being a servant leader means ensuring that the wife's material, emotional and spiritual needs are met.
Hopefully these are helpful
You have done the right thing dear sister and God has blessed you for obeying Him in your life. The church I am serving doesn't remarry divorced people and also doesn't give divorces for any other reason than adultery. We are very firm about it. But this is very rare to find nowadays in christianity, most churches have given up to their members' demand for remaryring, but that leads to adultery since in God's eyes remarriage is not valid. So what is our (born again christians) difference with the worldly churches, non really (even worse since we actually know the truth but don't follow it).
GBU
Romans 7:2-3
"For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man". The same goes for the husband, if his wife dies he is free to marry another woman. GBU
How about a husband, if he loses his wife, is free to remarry?
Also?