Study in Greek or Hebrew certainly helps us understand the text but in order to grow spiritually we must take the hints from the Spirit and helps us in our infirmities so we may follow according to the Will of him who sealed us with his Spirit according to his purpose. In big strokes what are we considering in the Bible but our salvation which is being bonded to Jesus Christ from everlasting to everlasting. So as a new creation we are from the beginning. It is thus the Bible opens. In the beginning. How we were born but from the incorruptible seed. (1 Pe.1:23). So John's Gospel begins with, In the beginning' Thus we have a birth according to the will of flesh and blood. New birth is according to the Will of God. It is for this He sent his Son and we are called and we are blessed and it is what the everlasting covenant in the Ge. ch.1 is all about. The Bible is not about tribes, nations or of the world. It has nothing to do with Jewish customs and traditions but how we may be perfected as men of God. Jesus showed us that it is doable. How God framed the worlds by his word we are also born of his word. It is the only pattern we need follow in our personal lives. As you and I are created and are answerable to God alone let us serve him with fear and trembling. How others fare let them beware. God is in control that holds true for us and holds true for the Word outside. Calamities, plagues genocides are all out there. But God is in charge. Hallelujah.
Yes I removed my posts because I decided not to intervene at all any more in other brothers' work. Some brothers do get insulted or upset when someone else tells them a different thing than what they consider as right, maybe I would have felt the same myself if I were in their shoes. Actually my intention was not to intervene in your posts but to say what I know when I see that some other brothers disagree or ask for further explanations, like Gerald did. Also like Chris did in the past.
Thanks for your good words brother. May God bless you more.
Now the question is. Is the right interpretation of the scripture crucial for us christians? Sometimes a more accurate translation does not add much (or not at all really) to our knowledge and benefit of our souls. Example. If "phileo" and "agapao" are the same or somewhere near in meaning does not have any effect in our salvation. But there are few cases that a translation can lead to wrong beliefs. I believe we should mainly focus on those verses (this does not mean that I reject your work). Also our faith does not rely on a single verse but on the entire Bible. And if a verse seemingly is in contrast to others, if we search the scriptures carefuly we will eventually come to the right conclusion. As I see it the Bible is like a puzzle. If one wants to have the right image about something they must firstly find and pick up all the relevant pieces/verses from throughout the Bible and put them together. And this takes time and study, it can not be done overnight. The less pieces one puts the less accurate image one has. And if the pieces are not enough at all, then the green thing we see may be a green field or a green rocket, we can make it anything we like. I believe this is how wrong doctrines emmerge.
And definitely we need the Holy Spirit to intreprete the scriptures to us, especially the prophesies. GBU
Q: "The great congregation referred in the Psalm 40 must refer to the cloud of witnesses? Is it David referring to himself?"
A: No. Volume of a believer without the Son or the Man component does not arise. Consider in steps how he could preach righteousness to the great congregation? "And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord." (40:3) The new song is cue for salvation. Next we have the reference to the Word become flesh, " I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart."(vv.6-8) He is identifying himself with Jesus Christ so David is set down in the book of life 'after my own heart' and that is Thou-in-me" speaking. Law of the Spirit control the sequence so the unseen is made to appear which is like the Book of Remembrance."And in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."(Ps.139:12)
To sum: the gospel of Christ preached by Jesus Christ in flesh is in continuity of the word of God sent forth before the worlds were created. David's life and works are before the great congregation that God has called and entrusted to his Son.
This body, the Temple is in heaven so the Psalm 40 is referring to the body, the temple 'not made with hands but eternal in the heavens'. It is to which the vision of St John opens, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein".(Re.11:1) The Gentiles are not counted nor are the heathen,"and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of theLordof hosts."(Ze.14:21). We have the testimony of Jesus Christ and what is the ark of his testament? "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament." (Re.11:19) The ark carries the great congregation, his body.
Q: "if we have the mind of Christ the heart of a believer must reflect the works is it not?"
A: Certainly. God formed man from the dust of the ground but heart defines a world and according to the everlasting covenant, this world is unseen. It is by works it's quality is determined. "He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works." (Ps.33:15) At the end of the Parable of Talents the certificate came from the Lord, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."(Matt.25:21).
This world corresponds to the same word of God with which he framed the worlds by faith so without faith no one shall please God. His world made to appear has the spiritual blessings freely given to man in his Son. It is thus each heart sets heaven in context of his soul. his inner man. Before healing the deaf and mute man he took him away from the crowd,"And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened." ( Mark 7:34). So we have heaven private for each, so we can understand what it means, "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty."(Ps.91:1) It is for the same reason Jesus asked the blind man to look up and he saw men as trees (Matt.8:24). From two examples we can understand our volume is not isolated from heaven or earth framed by God.(He.11:3) There is a great congregation to which we witness."I have preached righteousness in the great congregation."(Ps.40:8-9)
So we have the heart, a spiritual space and our works are considered under the eye of our Father which art in heaven. Does anyone delude oneself by serving God and mammon and say he is justified? Does any whitewashed sepulchre walk scotfree by espousing white evangelicalism? Oh no! God shall call them to account.
This post goes out to the following brothers and sister/s in Christ:
First, to Jackieboy80,
Thank you so much for your reply. For some reason, your first message did not show up on these forum pages, but I did receive it in its entirety in my email and I did read it. I can understand why you felt my tone was confrontational, but I can assure you it was not meant to be so. I also agree with what you said in that "one has no tone in a typed message, the inference comes from the reader not the writer." Amen! Without ever meeting someone in person, we have no way of knowing that person's true personality and temperament. It's very easy to read a message and begin to characterize and "paint a face" on each other without knowing what's going through the mind of the person writing the message. I can say that I have been guilty of that at times. I would like to say, "Apology accepted," but I really do not see any need for you to apologize. But again, I do want to thank you for your thoughtful reply.
GiGi,
Thank you very much for your kind and encouraging words. I have been posting here for almost 10 years now and I try to always be respectful in all my discussions. You also have always been kind, respectful, and caring towards everyone over the years. Knowing that you keep all of us here in your daily prayers is very comforting.
My dear brother Spencer,
You're ruining my reputation! No, just kidding, thank you so much for your kind words. And thank you also for everything you contribute to this forum. It is such a blessing to have a place like this to fellowship and share our knowledge and understanding of God's word.
If there is anything you would like to discuss, I am completely open for friendly discussion. I read through your message a few more times but I am still unable to understand your main point. One thing that I can tell you is that I have told anyone, nor will I ever tell anyone that they cannot fully understand the scriptures without going to the "original texts" to get a right understanding. It would be wrong for me to say this. The things I am sharing under the heading "Biblical Greek Perspectives" are simply from my own personal studies. I completely agree with you that it takes God's Spirit to reveal the truth to us. Even if we had no written bibles, God's Spirit can still minister the truth about God to our hearts.
Giannis,
I wanted to say thank you for the two-part post you recently sent me but soon after removed. Please, I don't wish to know why you removed them, but I did receive them in my email and after reading through what you sent, I just wanted to thank you for the information. You have been very helpful in my studies, and I can't thank you enough.
Hell Is Not a Mere Natural Consequence of Bad Choices
The word wrath is important for understanding what Jesus meant by hell. Hell is not simply the natural consequence of rejecting God. Some people say this in order to reject the thought that God sends people there. They say that people send themselves there. That is true. People make choices that lead to hell. But it is not the whole truth. Jesus says these choices are really deserving of hell. "Whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to [that is, guilty of, or deserving of] the hell of fire" ( Matt. 5:22). That is why he calls hell "punishment" ( Matt. 25:46). It is not a mere self-imposed natural consequence (like cigarette smoking leading to lung cancer); it is the penalty of God's wrath (like a judge sentencing a criminal to hard labor).
The images Jesus uses of how people come to be in hell do not suggest natural consequence but the exercise of just wrath. For example, he pictures the servant of a master who has gone on a journey. The servant says, "My master is delayed," and he "begins to beat his fellow servants and eats and drinks with drunkards." Then Jesus says (referring to his own sudden second coming), "The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" ( Matt. 24:48-51). This picture represents legitimate and holy rage followed by punishment. Jesus will "put" () him with the hypocrites.
Fear Him Who Can Destroy Both Soul and Body in Hell
This is why Jesus said, "Fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell" ( Matt. 10:28). The fear he commands is not fear of hell as a natural consequence of bad habits, but of God as a holy judge who sentences guilty sinners to hell. This command to fear God In the same breath Jesus says, "Fear God who casts into hell" and "Do not fear because God is your Father.
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" is a sermon written by the American theologian Jonathan Edwards, preached to his own congregation in Northampton, Massachusetts, to profound effect,[1] and again on July 8, 1741 in Enfield, Connecticut. The preaching of this sermon was the catalyst for the First Great Awakening.[2] Like Edwards' other works, it combines vivid imagery of sinners' everlasting torment in the burning fires of Hell with observations of the world and citations of Biblical scripture. It is Edwards' most famous written work, and a fitting representation of his preaching style.[3] It is widely studied by Christians and historians, providing a glimpse into the theology of the First Great Awakening of c.1730-1755.
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.God may cast wicked men into Hell at any given moment.
The wicked deserve to be cast into Hell. Divine justice does not prevent God from destroying the wicked at any moment.
The wicked, at this moment, suffer under God's condemnation to Hell.
The wicked, on earth-at this very moment-suffer a sample of the torments of Hell. The wicked must not think, simply because they are not physically in Hell, that God (in whose hand the wicked now reside) is not-at this very moment-as angry with them as he is with those he is now tormenting in Hell, and who-at this very moment-feel and bear the fierceness of his wrath.
At any moment God shall permit him, Satan stands ready to fall upon the wicked and seize them as his own.
If it were not for God's restraints, there are, in the souls of wicked men, hellish principles reigning which, presently, would kindle and flame out into hellfire.
Simply because there are not visible means of death before them at any given moment, the wicked should not feel secure.
Simply because it is natural to care for oneself or to think that others may care for them, men should not think themselves safe from God's wrath.
John 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." Apart from the work of Jesus Christ, every human is condemned to an eternity in hell ( Revelation 20:15). But God has freely offered the gift of heaven. What determines if a person goes to heaven or hell for eternity is whether that person has been reconciled to God through Jesus Christ ( Romans 4; Galatians 3:23-29; Hebrews 11).
Going to hell is the default position of humanity. Going to heaven is the free gift of God's grace, received by faith, offered to all people ( Ephesians 2:1-10). God wants people to be reconciled with Him, so He provided the way ( John 14:6). Every person is invited to go to heaven.
Going to heaven or hell has everything to do with God's act of rescue. When God created the world, everything was very good ( Genesis 1:31). He created humanity in His image. He provided food for them but told them there was one tree from which they were not allowed to eat. They were to trust His provision, follow His commands, remain in close relationship with Him, and experience fullness of life. But they were also free to disobey Him, which would result in death ( Genesis 2:15-17; Romans 6:23).God, I know that I have gone against your ways, that I rightly deserve condemnation. I know that you are loving, merciful, gracious, and just. I believe that you have made reconciliation possible. I believe that Jesus is the only Savior, and I submit to Him as Lord. I believe He is fully God, fully human, lived a perfect life, died on the cross for my sins, and rose from the dead bodily. I believe His sacrifice is sufficient for my sins.
Going to heaven-how can I guarantee my eternal destination?
Answer
Face it. The day we step into eternity may come sooner than we think. In preparation for that moment, we need to know this truth-not everyone is going to heaven. How can we know for sure that we are going to heaven? Some 2,000 years ago, the apostles Peter and John were preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to a large crowd in Jerusalem. Peter made a profound statement that resonates even in our postmodern world: "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved" ( Acts 4:12)
Many people today hold to a watered-down gospel that does away with the need for repentance. They want to believe in a "loving" (nonjudgmental) God who never mentions sin and who requires no change in their lifestyle. They may say things like, "My God would never send a person to hell." But Jesus spoke more about hell than He did about heaven, and He presented Himself as the Savior who offers the only means of going to heaven: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" ( John 14:6).
Who will actually enter God's kingdom? How can I guarantee that I'm going to heaven? The Bible makes a clear distinction between those who have eternal life and those who do not: "He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life" ( 1 John 5:12). It all goes back to faith. Those who believe in Christ are made the children of God ( John 1:12). Those who accept Jesus' sacrifice as the payment for their sins and who believe in His resurrection are going to heaven. Those who reject Christ are not. "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son" ( John 3:18).
Bible says there is one and only one way to heaven-Jesus Christ. Follow Jesus' command: "Enter through
Brother, I understand what you were saying, I hope you don't mind me asking, in love is there any text or reason you would say demons/ daimonion AKA evil spirits, devils, don't really exist? If you don't want to answer that's ok.
Q: "The Mind of God can only be understood by the Spirit. When Paul speaks of having the mind of Christ it must mean the exchange of information from abiding in Christ comes under the Law or the Word?
A: Yes. Let us look at this quote,"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."(1 Co.2:12) This indwelling Spirit is given to us according to the everlasting covenant. In order to understand it let us take the building of the tabernacle in the wilderness. What is the Will when God commands, "That I may dwell among them" but the mind of God? This mind of God created heaven with the word so we can paraphrase the command to Moses thus,"By the things freely given to you you shall build the sanctuary." The blessing to Man under the covenant holds the blue print how Moses shall make it, "after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof," and it was according to "all that I shew thee.'(Ex.25:8-9). Once again we have to put ourselves in the shoes of Moses so he is after the likeness of Jesus Christ the Word made flesh. Jesus's prayer was according to the mind of God. Thus 'Thou in me' and 'I in thou' gives us the 3-D model of the Father Son relationship.
"But which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual./But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Co.2:13-14)
Jesus is the Lord of glory and in his prayer, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."(John17:5;1 Co.2:8) The same mind and the same glory and only his obedience can teach us to enter therein. "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."(Ph.2:5-11)
Q: Prayer of Jesus establishes his glory is from everlasting to everlasting. Is it not the Word was with God and it was transferable?
A: We have the verse you have in mind. " Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world."( John 17:24) Glory of the Word is that it is sound as well as it is a sign. Thy word as a sign is what we consider here. "thy word is truth." This information is the seed planted by the Sower. Jesus in his prayer refers to the son of perdition. Judas Iscariot was also among the twelve of whom Jesus says, "Those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." The Law determined the everlasting covenant did not bar any man in the Man component. That the Scripture might be fulfilled" demonstrates it was Judas's choice whether to be sanctified by the word or not. It was written of him, "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me."(Ps.41:9)
Judas in refusing Jesus refused God the Father. "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name" except for Judas who refused to be sanctified by the Word.
The covenant sets After our image" in order to establish the Father Son relationship. The Word was God establishes the truth. In refusing to be 'after our likeness' betrayed the Word made flesh. The sign tells it all. Judas Iscariot was like the nation of Israel. "He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."( John 8:47) Satan is the father of lies, The same rule in 8:44 can be applied to Judas."(He) abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him." Glory of the Word is established by faith. "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them." (17:10)
Q:God made man a living soul. His free will may change the relationship of God with Man. How does the Spirit still keep the integrity of the everlasting covenant?
A: God breathed into the nostrils of the man. He made him a living soul. What does that signify? As St Paul says, That which may be known of God is manifest in them (his creation); for God hath shewed it unto them." Faith is part of this patrimony. In a manner of speaking information carried in the DNA is outside the circumstances of the flesh and blood. There is no 'information paradox' as such the world of science wrestle with. Think of it as 'pi' the mathematical constant to represent the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter . It owes to role of Jesus Christ as the word become flesh. His deity and humanity signify truth. Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. That is his humanity. His deity is in 'After our image' that points to the Father Son relationship. This basic relationship 'truth',- and it is the information and God revealed it to man. (Ro.1:18) This is carried out in dreams and visions so whatever we may know of is 'seeded' as it were. It is where blessing in the everlasting covenant comes to our help." According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it." (Ex.25:8-9) Pattern of relationship in heaven presents 'after our image and after our likeness' . What is Moses in this transaction? Is he not after the likeness of the Word become flesh? The DNA of faith informed Moses what God willed. "Thus did Moses: according to all that the LORD commanded him..."(Ex.40:16) God did not allow Moses to enter the Promised Land but that tabernacle was built according to the pattern that the Man component holds in the covenant. The 3 D model of Thou-in-me and I-in-Thou is where the believer set in time. " Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men," Is done and it is outside the will of man.
Q:Epistle of Peter gives us a sequence that 'ye might be partakers of the divine nature'. Doesnot that sound the Law of the Spirit works with a believer similar to the DNA of God?
A: Faith is the DNA undoubtedly. The epistle exhorts us what faith with works would entail in a believer so he is created in the image of his Son. " add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;/And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;/And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity." Christ as the true vine tells of being fruitful and Apostle Peter explains the sequence and ends by saying, "For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. "(2 Pe.1:5-8)
False teachers may get away by stating faith alone is necessary once a believer is justified. The Law of the Spirit enjoins the correct manner DNA of faith might be developed in us. Protein can be folded in myriad different ways, forming a unique 3D shape. The will of God as fulfilled by the Son must connects as 'Thou in me" so what we do is for the glory of God. Time element is now. It is thus our diligence makes virtue out of faith. So who serve God and mammon are what hypocrites do and they resist the Law. Virtue is what 'Thou in me and I in Thou' does leading to a state "that God may be all in all."(1 Co.15:28)
"And I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
CAUSE. Means to make or to bring forth.
KEEP. (shamar)
A primitive root; properly to hedge about (as with {thorns}) that {is} guard; generally to {protect} attend {to} etc.: - {beware} be {circumspect} take heed (to {self}) keep ({-er} {self}) {mark} look {narrowly} {observe} {preserve} {regard} {reserve} save ({self}) {sure} (that lay) wait ({for}) watch (-man).
"The answer lies in gene regulation, which allows each cell to select only the relevant instructions. This ensures that only the correct set of genes is active in each cell type." In short there is gene regulation by microRNA - a family of molecules that helps cells control the sort of proteins.
Over the past two decades we've sequenced the entire genomes of an incredibly wide variety of organisms. One surprising result is that the number of genes required to encode a tiny nematode worm, a fish and a human being is about the same. If that's the case, then how is complexity generated?"
"The answer appears to be in the sophisticated ways that the information within these genes, like a light, can be turned on, off and dimmed. We now know that microRNAs, once discarded by scientists as a contaminant gettingin the way of studying 'more important' RNAs, are key components for regulating genes in virtually every cell in every tissue in every plant and animal." The everlasting covenant in the first chapter of Genesis gives whosoever believes in the Son a volume. But how one impacts another believer and adds to the ministry of the body of Christ owes to the 'gene regulation' which for a child of God explain the Law of the Spirit working upon the believer.
Q: How does the Spirit work with a believer given the volume of each is so complex?
A: This may necessitate to introduce science in order to compare notes. Laws of nature obey the Law of the Spirit. Proteins are essential building blocks of living organisms. every cell we have in us is packed with them. The instructions for making human proteins are contained in our genomes - the DNA contained in the nuclei of human cells. There are around 20,000 of these proteins expressed by the human genome. Collectively, biologists refer to this full complement as the "proteome".
Proteins are made up of chains of smaller building blocks called amino acids. These chains fold in myriad different ways, forming a unique 3D shape. A protein's shape determines its function in the human body. They help form hair, skin and tissue cells; they read, copy and repair DNA; and they help carry oxygen in the blood.
While proteins are built from only around 20 amino acids, these can be combined in almost endless ways, folding themselves into highly complex patterns in three-dimensional space. When the Spirit of God began moving upon the face of the water we have the a blessing which Science may not agree but just the same it explains a process, and it is spiritually understood,- so how knowledge of the holy can be understanding. God is a Spirit but the Wisdom and Power principles with which God reveals itself is the glory that the Scripture defines as His holiness. This glory makes information stored within our chromosomes as an instruction manual for all cells in our body. Every cell contains the same chromosomes, so every cell contains exactly the same set of genes and exactly the same set of instructions.
And yet, different cell types - such as muscle and nerve cells - have different characteristics. How does these differences occur? "The answer lies in gene regulation, which allows each cell to select only the relevant instructions.
Q: The blessings in his Son give us the volume. It begs the question,"For who maketh thee to differ from another?". In the many churches it would seen that Satan made the everlasting covenant in the opening chapter of Genesis as the most misunderstood portion of the Bible. Am I not correct?
A: Yes indeed. You quoted St Paul and he says it as a figure, 'figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes', and it speaks with regards to the ministry. St Paul according to the flesh could freely move about in the empire while others had not the advantage. It is not what we are considering. Spiritual blessings hold true under all circumstances. Firstly the Pauline quote:" For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?" (1 Co.4:6-7)
In order to consider the spiritual blessings God made his will known to man."And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them." Whether the body or the temple made with hands, God desires fellowship according to the heavenly pattern. This Fellowship of God with Man is what we need focus upon. God blessed man on the day six (Ge.1:28) is the template of the covenant into which whosoever believes is admitted in the Man component. So when he speaks Jesus Christ the firstborn from the dead he is thus established in the world of the believer. His volume is sanctified by the Son."For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,"(He.2:11). Our faith is that we bring into this equation where the Son presents us as signs and wonders so how we transform us to be the city set upon the hill is between God and Man. Our faith creates virtues as patience, trust and obedience so our battles are really fought elsewhere. Satan sure knows where to beguile man who is not fully committed.
Q: If The Bible is God breathed and is for instruction righteousness the term 'firstborn' must be applied in relation to the reader is it not?
A: Yes. The everlasting covenant in the first chapter of Genesis refers to heavenly blessings.St Paul says God "who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ." God blessed man after our image and after our likeness' So his death and resurrection shows us the way. It proves God loved the world that "that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." It is in this sense we make the sense of " the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Day one speaks of the creation of heaven. Blessing of Christ being the true Light is made available to the believer in heaven. The waters mentioned under the day two holds blessing. "It is of the Lord's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not."(Lam.3:22) Day three sets Christ as the tree of life, tree of righteousness.(Ps.1:1-3). Blessings from life forms are incalculable. No less are the lights to give light upon the earth. All these blessings give the volume to a believer and his world is ever moving in tandem with what those cloud of witnesses in heavenly places,- they are ministering angels, are they not?
Jesus Christ as the firstborn is set in context of this world of the believer.
The world and its ways have another direction. They have the ways of the world and we have the fellowship of God. It is in hiis Son.This is how you make sense of the Spirit's lead. As many as are led by the Spirit they are children of God. Instead of splitting the hair in nonsensical disputes let us live as God intended and worship God in truth and spirit.
It's important to apply proper biblical hermeneutics when studying Proverbs 8:22-31. Just like balloons, scripture must be handled with care to grasp its true meaning and message. Blessings!
When we examine verses such as Matthew 16:18 we see how the church would never be extinguished by the forces of darkness.
Again; as my last posting and many others that I have placed on this site in the past I emphasized the believing remnant of the true Christians vs pretenders as being much smaller than the professing church. In that group we once again need to differentiate a smaller group who wish to be godly in Christ Jesus and suffer persecution. ( 2 Timothy 3:12). Thus; we see a differentiation of rewards in heaven and those who wish to be great will seek His face to be given the desire to run the race with endurance as Paul did and find examples of godly individuals to emulate.
Ruling and reigning is something the book of Hebrews discusses of those who are in the "hall of fame" and in the great cloud of witnesses ( Heb. 12:1-2). Therefore we are currently "seated in heavenly places" ( Ephesians 2:6). Therefore the history of the church is something which will be today once tomorrow comes; and it leads to the future when we will rule as "kings and priests" on the earth. ( Rev. 1:6; also see 5:10). For now the church is in training for this future by our pruning by the Spirit and our trials and testings on earth to refine us as gold ( 1 Peter 1:7).
It is a good thing that the church has continued to succeed; especially when ALL seven churches that originated in the area of Turkey today ceased to exist within a few centuries of their inception at least where they were originally as the vast majority of citizens there are Muslim. We can also see that deception comes shortly after revivals as was the case where Paul warned Timothy of what would come in the last days after he departed within their own midst. Much of this these days can be blamed on faulty logic; when we just want to bring in numbers to fill the church there is always compromise on verses such as 2 Cor. 13:5; and John 15:2. We should make disciples.
I thought you were quite polite and sincere towards Gerald. I, too, was wondering what he hoped to get across to us. I hope he feels comfortable in elaborating further or presenting a more precise point. It was fair for you to ask this of him. I just wanted to encourage you tonight. I have known you to be respectful in how your respond to me and others here. Keep up the good work because we are to continue to speak out of the best part of us, which is the place the Spirit brings forth good things and works from us.
Thank you for showing concern for Gerald. I have never had any issues with Gerald and in my very few discussions with him, I have always been very respectful. Yes, I understand that we are all allowed to post messages sharing our thoughts and feelings. Gerald was replying to one of my posts and I was not completely understanding what he was getting at. Am I not allowed to ask him what his point was? That's all I was asking and I see no harm in that. If we do not understand the point someone is trying to make, are we not allowed to ask that person to elucidate their message? If you feel it was wrong for me to ask, can you please tell me why?
Study in Greek or Hebrew certainly helps us understand the text but in order to grow spiritually we must take the hints from the Spirit and helps us in our infirmities so we may follow according to the Will of him who sealed us with his Spirit according to his purpose. In big strokes what are we considering in the Bible but our salvation which is being bonded to Jesus Christ from everlasting to everlasting. So as a new creation we are from the beginning. It is thus the Bible opens. In the beginning. How we were born but from the incorruptible seed. (1 Pe.1:23). So John's Gospel begins with, In the beginning' Thus we have a birth according to the will of flesh and blood. New birth is according to the Will of God. It is for this He sent his Son and we are called and we are blessed and it is what the everlasting covenant in the Ge. ch.1 is all about. The Bible is not about tribes, nations or of the world. It has nothing to do with Jewish customs and traditions but how we may be perfected as men of God. Jesus showed us that it is doable. How God framed the worlds by his word we are also born of his word. It is the only pattern we need follow in our personal lives. As you and I are created and are answerable to God alone let us serve him with fear and trembling. How others fare let them beware. God is in control that holds true for us and holds true for the Word outside. Calamities, plagues genocides are all out there. But God is in charge. Hallelujah.
Yes I removed my posts because I decided not to intervene at all any more in other brothers' work. Some brothers do get insulted or upset when someone else tells them a different thing than what they consider as right, maybe I would have felt the same myself if I were in their shoes. Actually my intention was not to intervene in your posts but to say what I know when I see that some other brothers disagree or ask for further explanations, like Gerald did. Also like Chris did in the past.
Thanks for your good words brother. May God bless you more.
Now the question is. Is the right interpretation of the scripture crucial for us christians? Sometimes a more accurate translation does not add much (or not at all really) to our knowledge and benefit of our souls. Example. If "phileo" and "agapao" are the same or somewhere near in meaning does not have any effect in our salvation. But there are few cases that a translation can lead to wrong beliefs. I believe we should mainly focus on those verses (this does not mean that I reject your work). Also our faith does not rely on a single verse but on the entire Bible. And if a verse seemingly is in contrast to others, if we search the scriptures carefuly we will eventually come to the right conclusion. As I see it the Bible is like a puzzle. If one wants to have the right image about something they must firstly find and pick up all the relevant pieces/verses from throughout the Bible and put them together. And this takes time and study, it can not be done overnight. The less pieces one puts the less accurate image one has. And if the pieces are not enough at all, then the green thing we see may be a green field or a green rocket, we can make it anything we like. I believe this is how wrong doctrines emmerge.
And definitely we need the Holy Spirit to intreprete the scriptures to us, especially the prophesies. GBU
Q: "The great congregation referred in the Psalm 40 must refer to the cloud of witnesses? Is it David referring to himself?"
A: No. Volume of a believer without the Son or the Man component does not arise. Consider in steps how he could preach righteousness to the great congregation? "And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord." (40:3) The new song is cue for salvation. Next we have the reference to the Word become flesh, " I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart."(vv.6-8) He is identifying himself with Jesus Christ so David is set down in the book of life 'after my own heart' and that is Thou-in-me" speaking. Law of the Spirit control the sequence so the unseen is made to appear which is like the Book of Remembrance."And in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."(Ps.139:12)
To sum: the gospel of Christ preached by Jesus Christ in flesh is in continuity of the word of God sent forth before the worlds were created. David's life and works are before the great congregation that God has called and entrusted to his Son.
This body, the Temple is in heaven so the Psalm 40 is referring to the body, the temple 'not made with hands but eternal in the heavens'. It is to which the vision of St John opens, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein".(Re.11:1) The Gentiles are not counted nor are the heathen,"and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of theLordof hosts."(Ze.14:21). We have the testimony of Jesus Christ and what is the ark of his testament? "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament." (Re.11:19) The ark carries the great congregation, his body.
Q: "if we have the mind of Christ the heart of a believer must reflect the works is it not?"
A: Certainly. God formed man from the dust of the ground but heart defines a world and according to the everlasting covenant, this world is unseen. It is by works it's quality is determined. "He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works." (Ps.33:15) At the end of the Parable of Talents the certificate came from the Lord, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."(Matt.25:21).
This world corresponds to the same word of God with which he framed the worlds by faith so without faith no one shall please God. His world made to appear has the spiritual blessings freely given to man in his Son. It is thus each heart sets heaven in context of his soul. his inner man. Before healing the deaf and mute man he took him away from the crowd,"And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened." ( Mark 7:34). So we have heaven private for each, so we can understand what it means, "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty."(Ps.91:1) It is for the same reason Jesus asked the blind man to look up and he saw men as trees (Matt.8:24). From two examples we can understand our volume is not isolated from heaven or earth framed by God.(He.11:3) There is a great congregation to which we witness."I have preached righteousness in the great congregation."(Ps.40:8-9)
So we have the heart, a spiritual space and our works are considered under the eye of our Father which art in heaven. Does anyone delude oneself by serving God and mammon and say he is justified? Does any whitewashed sepulchre walk scotfree by espousing white evangelicalism? Oh no! God shall call them to account.
This post goes out to the following brothers and sister/s in Christ:
First, to Jackieboy80,
Thank you so much for your reply. For some reason, your first message did not show up on these forum pages, but I did receive it in its entirety in my email and I did read it. I can understand why you felt my tone was confrontational, but I can assure you it was not meant to be so. I also agree with what you said in that "one has no tone in a typed message, the inference comes from the reader not the writer." Amen! Without ever meeting someone in person, we have no way of knowing that person's true personality and temperament. It's very easy to read a message and begin to characterize and "paint a face" on each other without knowing what's going through the mind of the person writing the message. I can say that I have been guilty of that at times. I would like to say, "Apology accepted," but I really do not see any need for you to apologize. But again, I do want to thank you for your thoughtful reply.
GiGi,
Thank you very much for your kind and encouraging words. I have been posting here for almost 10 years now and I try to always be respectful in all my discussions. You also have always been kind, respectful, and caring towards everyone over the years. Knowing that you keep all of us here in your daily prayers is very comforting.
My dear brother Spencer,
You're ruining my reputation! No, just kidding, thank you so much for your kind words. And thank you also for everything you contribute to this forum. It is such a blessing to have a place like this to fellowship and share our knowledge and understanding of God's word.
Gerald,
If there is anything you would like to discuss, I am completely open for friendly discussion. I read through your message a few more times but I am still unable to understand your main point. One thing that I can tell you is that I have told anyone, nor will I ever tell anyone that they cannot fully understand the scriptures without going to the "original texts" to get a right understanding. It would be wrong for me to say this. The things I am sharing under the heading "Biblical Greek Perspectives" are simply from my own personal studies. I completely agree with you that it takes God's Spirit to reveal the truth to us. Even if we had no written bibles, God's Spirit can still minister the truth about God to our hearts.
Giannis,
I wanted to say thank you for the two-part post you recently sent me but soon after removed. Please, I don't wish to know why you removed them, but I did receive them in my email and after reading through what you sent, I just wanted to thank you for the information. You have been very helpful in my studies, and I can't thank you enough.
Blessings to you all in Christ Jesus!
The word wrath is important for understanding what Jesus meant by hell. Hell is not simply the natural consequence of rejecting God. Some people say this in order to reject the thought that God sends people there. They say that people send themselves there. That is true. People make choices that lead to hell. But it is not the whole truth. Jesus says these choices are really deserving of hell. "Whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to [that is, guilty of, or deserving of] the hell of fire" ( Matt. 5:22). That is why he calls hell "punishment" ( Matt. 25:46). It is not a mere self-imposed natural consequence (like cigarette smoking leading to lung cancer); it is the penalty of God's wrath (like a judge sentencing a criminal to hard labor).
The images Jesus uses of how people come to be in hell do not suggest natural consequence but the exercise of just wrath. For example, he pictures the servant of a master who has gone on a journey. The servant says, "My master is delayed," and he "begins to beat his fellow servants and eats and drinks with drunkards." Then Jesus says (referring to his own sudden second coming), "The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" ( Matt. 24:48-51). This picture represents legitimate and holy rage followed by punishment. Jesus will "put" () him with the hypocrites.
Fear Him Who Can Destroy Both Soul and Body in Hell
This is why Jesus said, "Fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell" ( Matt. 10:28). The fear he commands is not fear of hell as a natural consequence of bad habits, but of God as a holy judge who sentences guilty sinners to hell. This command to fear God In the same breath Jesus says, "Fear God who casts into hell" and "Do not fear because God is your Father.
COME LORD JESUS
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.God may cast wicked men into Hell at any given moment.
The wicked deserve to be cast into Hell. Divine justice does not prevent God from destroying the wicked at any moment.
The wicked, at this moment, suffer under God's condemnation to Hell.
The wicked, on earth-at this very moment-suffer a sample of the torments of Hell. The wicked must not think, simply because they are not physically in Hell, that God (in whose hand the wicked now reside) is not-at this very moment-as angry with them as he is with those he is now tormenting in Hell, and who-at this very moment-feel and bear the fierceness of his wrath.
At any moment God shall permit him, Satan stands ready to fall upon the wicked and seize them as his own.
If it were not for God's restraints, there are, in the souls of wicked men, hellish principles reigning which, presently, would kindle and flame out into hellfire.
Simply because there are not visible means of death before them at any given moment, the wicked should not feel secure.
Simply because it is natural to care for oneself or to think that others may care for them, men should not think themselves safe from God's wrath.
John 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." Apart from the work of Jesus Christ, every human is condemned to an eternity in hell ( Revelation 20:15). But God has freely offered the gift of heaven. What determines if a person goes to heaven or hell for eternity is whether that person has been reconciled to God through Jesus Christ ( Romans 4; Galatians 3:23-29; Hebrews 11).
Going to hell is the default position of humanity. Going to heaven is the free gift of God's grace, received by faith, offered to all people ( Ephesians 2:1-10). God wants people to be reconciled with Him, so He provided the way ( John 14:6). Every person is invited to go to heaven.
Going to heaven or hell has everything to do with God's act of rescue. When God created the world, everything was very good ( Genesis 1:31). He created humanity in His image. He provided food for them but told them there was one tree from which they were not allowed to eat. They were to trust His provision, follow His commands, remain in close relationship with Him, and experience fullness of life. But they were also free to disobey Him, which would result in death ( Genesis 2:15-17; Romans 6:23).God, I know that I have gone against your ways, that I rightly deserve condemnation. I know that you are loving, merciful, gracious, and just. I believe that you have made reconciliation possible. I believe that Jesus is the only Savior, and I submit to Him as Lord. I believe He is fully God, fully human, lived a perfect life, died on the cross for my sins, and rose from the dead bodily. I believe His sacrifice is sufficient for my sins.
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Face it. The day we step into eternity may come sooner than we think. In preparation for that moment, we need to know this truth-not everyone is going to heaven. How can we know for sure that we are going to heaven? Some 2,000 years ago, the apostles Peter and John were preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to a large crowd in Jerusalem. Peter made a profound statement that resonates even in our postmodern world: "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved" ( Acts 4:12)
Many people today hold to a watered-down gospel that does away with the need for repentance. They want to believe in a "loving" (nonjudgmental) God who never mentions sin and who requires no change in their lifestyle. They may say things like, "My God would never send a person to hell." But Jesus spoke more about hell than He did about heaven, and He presented Himself as the Savior who offers the only means of going to heaven: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" ( John 14:6).
Who will actually enter God's kingdom? How can I guarantee that I'm going to heaven? The Bible makes a clear distinction between those who have eternal life and those who do not: "He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life" ( 1 John 5:12). It all goes back to faith. Those who believe in Christ are made the children of God ( John 1:12). Those who accept Jesus' sacrifice as the payment for their sins and who believe in His resurrection are going to heaven. Those who reject Christ are not. "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son" ( John 3:18).
Bible says there is one and only one way to heaven-Jesus Christ. Follow Jesus' command: "Enter through
Brother, I understand what you were saying, I hope you don't mind me asking, in love is there any text or reason you would say demons/ daimonion AKA evil spirits, devils, don't really exist? If you don't want to answer that's ok.
God bless,
RLW
Q: "The Mind of God can only be understood by the Spirit. When Paul speaks of having the mind of Christ it must mean the exchange of information from abiding in Christ comes under the Law or the Word?
A: Yes. Let us look at this quote,"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."(1 Co.2:12) This indwelling Spirit is given to us according to the everlasting covenant. In order to understand it let us take the building of the tabernacle in the wilderness. What is the Will when God commands, "That I may dwell among them" but the mind of God? This mind of God created heaven with the word so we can paraphrase the command to Moses thus,"By the things freely given to you you shall build the sanctuary." The blessing to Man under the covenant holds the blue print how Moses shall make it, "after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof," and it was according to "all that I shew thee.'(Ex.25:8-9). Once again we have to put ourselves in the shoes of Moses so he is after the likeness of Jesus Christ the Word made flesh. Jesus's prayer was according to the mind of God. Thus 'Thou in me' and 'I in thou' gives us the 3-D model of the Father Son relationship.
"But which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual./But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Co.2:13-14)
Jesus is the Lord of glory and in his prayer, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."(John17:5;1 Co.2:8) The same mind and the same glory and only his obedience can teach us to enter therein. "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."(Ph.2:5-11)
Q: Prayer of Jesus establishes his glory is from everlasting to everlasting. Is it not the Word was with God and it was transferable?
A: We have the verse you have in mind. " Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world."( John 17:24) Glory of the Word is that it is sound as well as it is a sign. Thy word as a sign is what we consider here. "thy word is truth." This information is the seed planted by the Sower. Jesus in his prayer refers to the son of perdition. Judas Iscariot was also among the twelve of whom Jesus says, "Those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." The Law determined the everlasting covenant did not bar any man in the Man component. That the Scripture might be fulfilled" demonstrates it was Judas's choice whether to be sanctified by the word or not. It was written of him, "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me."(Ps.41:9)
Judas in refusing Jesus refused God the Father. "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name" except for Judas who refused to be sanctified by the Word.
The covenant sets After our image" in order to establish the Father Son relationship. The Word was God establishes the truth. In refusing to be 'after our likeness' betrayed the Word made flesh. The sign tells it all. Judas Iscariot was like the nation of Israel. "He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."( John 8:47) Satan is the father of lies, The same rule in 8:44 can be applied to Judas."(He) abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him." Glory of the Word is established by faith. "And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them." (17:10)
Q:God made man a living soul. His free will may change the relationship of God with Man. How does the Spirit still keep the integrity of the everlasting covenant?
A: God breathed into the nostrils of the man. He made him a living soul. What does that signify? As St Paul says, That which may be known of God is manifest in them (his creation); for God hath shewed it unto them." Faith is part of this patrimony. In a manner of speaking information carried in the DNA is outside the circumstances of the flesh and blood. There is no 'information paradox' as such the world of science wrestle with. Think of it as 'pi' the mathematical constant to represent the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter . It owes to role of Jesus Christ as the word become flesh. His deity and humanity signify truth. Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. That is his humanity. His deity is in 'After our image' that points to the Father Son relationship. This basic relationship 'truth',- and it is the information and God revealed it to man. (Ro.1:18) This is carried out in dreams and visions so whatever we may know of is 'seeded' as it were. It is where blessing in the everlasting covenant comes to our help." According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it." (Ex.25:8-9) Pattern of relationship in heaven presents 'after our image and after our likeness' . What is Moses in this transaction? Is he not after the likeness of the Word become flesh? The DNA of faith informed Moses what God willed. "Thus did Moses: according to all that the LORD commanded him..."(Ex.40:16) God did not allow Moses to enter the Promised Land but that tabernacle was built according to the pattern that the Man component holds in the covenant. The 3 D model of Thou-in-me and I-in-Thou is where the believer set in time. " Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men," Is done and it is outside the will of man.
If you don't believe God has always been here and always will be here, how are you going to believe the rest?
God was here before the beginning. [THERE IS NO BEGINNING OR ENDIND OF GOD] God is Eternity!!!
[ COME LORD JESUS ]
Q:Epistle of Peter gives us a sequence that 'ye might be partakers of the divine nature'. Doesnot that sound the Law of the Spirit works with a believer similar to the DNA of God?
A: Faith is the DNA undoubtedly. The epistle exhorts us what faith with works would entail in a believer so he is created in the image of his Son. " add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;/And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;/And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity." Christ as the true vine tells of being fruitful and Apostle Peter explains the sequence and ends by saying, "For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. "(2 Pe.1:5-8)
False teachers may get away by stating faith alone is necessary once a believer is justified. The Law of the Spirit enjoins the correct manner DNA of faith might be developed in us. Protein can be folded in myriad different ways, forming a unique 3D shape. The will of God as fulfilled by the Son must connects as 'Thou in me" so what we do is for the glory of God. Time element is now. It is thus our diligence makes virtue out of faith. So who serve God and mammon are what hypocrites do and they resist the Law. Virtue is what 'Thou in me and I in Thou' does leading to a state "that God may be all in all."(1 Co.15:28)
"And I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
CAUSE. Means to make or to bring forth.
KEEP. (shamar)
A primitive root; properly to hedge about (as with {thorns}) that {is} guard; generally to {protect} attend {to} etc.: - {beware} be {circumspect} take heed (to {self}) keep ({-er} {self}) {mark} look {narrowly} {observe} {preserve} {regard} {reserve} save ({self}) {sure} (that lay) wait ({for}) watch (-man).
KJV Usage: keep(283x), observe(46x), heed(35x), keeper(28x), preserve(21x), beware(9x), mark(8x), watchman(8x), wait(7x), watch(7x), regard(5x), save(2x), misc(9x).
Occurs: 468
In verses: 440.
Here we notice "obey" is omitted.
This is directed to the heart of man that LEADS to obedience.
We're not perfect but that what you do obey is persuaded.
John 15:4-5 reads
"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Paul describes this battle of this persuasion in these fleshly bodies in Romans 7.
This is what the Holyspirit does!
Jesus carried the Apostles and when he went away he sent them another Comforter. .
They wasn't prepared for ministry until then. .
God bless.
"The answer lies in gene regulation, which allows each cell to select only the relevant instructions. This ensures that only the correct set of genes is active in each cell type." In short there is gene regulation by microRNA - a family of molecules that helps cells control the sort of proteins.
Over the past two decades we've sequenced the entire genomes of an incredibly wide variety of organisms. One surprising result is that the number of genes required to encode a tiny nematode worm, a fish and a human being is about the same. If that's the case, then how is complexity generated?"
"The answer appears to be in the sophisticated ways that the information within these genes, like a light, can be turned on, off and dimmed. We now know that microRNAs, once discarded by scientists as a contaminant gettingin the way of studying 'more important' RNAs, are key components for regulating genes in virtually every cell in every tissue in every plant and animal." The everlasting covenant in the first chapter of Genesis gives whosoever believes in the Son a volume. But how one impacts another believer and adds to the ministry of the body of Christ owes to the 'gene regulation' which for a child of God explain the Law of the Spirit working upon the believer.
Q: How does the Spirit work with a believer given the volume of each is so complex?
A: This may necessitate to introduce science in order to compare notes. Laws of nature obey the Law of the Spirit. Proteins are essential building blocks of living organisms. every cell we have in us is packed with them. The instructions for making human proteins are contained in our genomes - the DNA contained in the nuclei of human cells. There are around 20,000 of these proteins expressed by the human genome. Collectively, biologists refer to this full complement as the "proteome".
Proteins are made up of chains of smaller building blocks called amino acids. These chains fold in myriad different ways, forming a unique 3D shape. A protein's shape determines its function in the human body. They help form hair, skin and tissue cells; they read, copy and repair DNA; and they help carry oxygen in the blood.
While proteins are built from only around 20 amino acids, these can be combined in almost endless ways, folding themselves into highly complex patterns in three-dimensional space. When the Spirit of God began moving upon the face of the water we have the a blessing which Science may not agree but just the same it explains a process, and it is spiritually understood,- so how knowledge of the holy can be understanding. God is a Spirit but the Wisdom and Power principles with which God reveals itself is the glory that the Scripture defines as His holiness. This glory makes information stored within our chromosomes as an instruction manual for all cells in our body. Every cell contains the same chromosomes, so every cell contains exactly the same set of genes and exactly the same set of instructions.
And yet, different cell types - such as muscle and nerve cells - have different characteristics. How does these differences occur? "The answer lies in gene regulation, which allows each cell to select only the relevant instructions.
Bravo. If you are issuing certificates to Bro. Jesse, add also mine. We are here discussing brothers in Christ. Aren't we? With Joy and peace in him,
Q: The blessings in his Son give us the volume. It begs the question,"For who maketh thee to differ from another?". In the many churches it would seen that Satan made the everlasting covenant in the opening chapter of Genesis as the most misunderstood portion of the Bible. Am I not correct?
A: Yes indeed. You quoted St Paul and he says it as a figure, 'figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes', and it speaks with regards to the ministry. St Paul according to the flesh could freely move about in the empire while others had not the advantage. It is not what we are considering. Spiritual blessings hold true under all circumstances. Firstly the Pauline quote:" For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?" (1 Co.4:6-7)
In order to consider the spiritual blessings God made his will known to man."And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them." Whether the body or the temple made with hands, God desires fellowship according to the heavenly pattern. This Fellowship of God with Man is what we need focus upon. God blessed man on the day six (Ge.1:28) is the template of the covenant into which whosoever believes is admitted in the Man component. So when he speaks Jesus Christ the firstborn from the dead he is thus established in the world of the believer. His volume is sanctified by the Son."For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,"(He.2:11). Our faith is that we bring into this equation where the Son presents us as signs and wonders so how we transform us to be the city set upon the hill is between God and Man. Our faith creates virtues as patience, trust and obedience so our battles are really fought elsewhere. Satan sure knows where to beguile man who is not fully committed.
You have always been polite and helpful "and patient."
I thank you for all that you do.
God bless.
Q: If The Bible is God breathed and is for instruction righteousness the term 'firstborn' must be applied in relation to the reader is it not?
A: Yes. The everlasting covenant in the first chapter of Genesis refers to heavenly blessings.St Paul says God "who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ." God blessed man after our image and after our likeness' So his death and resurrection shows us the way. It proves God loved the world that "that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." It is in this sense we make the sense of " the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Day one speaks of the creation of heaven. Blessing of Christ being the true Light is made available to the believer in heaven. The waters mentioned under the day two holds blessing. "It is of the Lord's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not."(Lam.3:22) Day three sets Christ as the tree of life, tree of righteousness.(Ps.1:1-3). Blessings from life forms are incalculable. No less are the lights to give light upon the earth. All these blessings give the volume to a believer and his world is ever moving in tandem with what those cloud of witnesses in heavenly places,- they are ministering angels, are they not?
Jesus Christ as the firstborn is set in context of this world of the believer.
The world and its ways have another direction. They have the ways of the world and we have the fellowship of God. It is in hiis Son.This is how you make sense of the Spirit's lead. As many as are led by the Spirit they are children of God. Instead of splitting the hair in nonsensical disputes let us live as God intended and worship God in truth and spirit.
When we examine verses such as Matthew 16:18 we see how the church would never be extinguished by the forces of darkness.
Again; as my last posting and many others that I have placed on this site in the past I emphasized the believing remnant of the true Christians vs pretenders as being much smaller than the professing church. In that group we once again need to differentiate a smaller group who wish to be godly in Christ Jesus and suffer persecution. ( 2 Timothy 3:12). Thus; we see a differentiation of rewards in heaven and those who wish to be great will seek His face to be given the desire to run the race with endurance as Paul did and find examples of godly individuals to emulate.
Ruling and reigning is something the book of Hebrews discusses of those who are in the "hall of fame" and in the great cloud of witnesses ( Heb. 12:1-2). Therefore we are currently "seated in heavenly places" ( Ephesians 2:6). Therefore the history of the church is something which will be today once tomorrow comes; and it leads to the future when we will rule as "kings and priests" on the earth. ( Rev. 1:6; also see 5:10). For now the church is in training for this future by our pruning by the Spirit and our trials and testings on earth to refine us as gold ( 1 Peter 1:7).
It is a good thing that the church has continued to succeed; especially when ALL seven churches that originated in the area of Turkey today ceased to exist within a few centuries of their inception at least where they were originally as the vast majority of citizens there are Muslim. We can also see that deception comes shortly after revivals as was the case where Paul warned Timothy of what would come in the last days after he departed within their own midst. Much of this these days can be blamed on faulty logic; when we just want to bring in numbers to fill the church there is always compromise on verses such as 2 Cor. 13:5; and John 15:2. We should make disciples.
I thought you were quite polite and sincere towards Gerald. I, too, was wondering what he hoped to get across to us. I hope he feels comfortable in elaborating further or presenting a more precise point. It was fair for you to ask this of him. I just wanted to encourage you tonight. I have known you to be respectful in how your respond to me and others here. Keep up the good work because we are to continue to speak out of the best part of us, which is the place the Spirit brings forth good things and works from us.
Thank you for showing concern for Gerald. I have never had any issues with Gerald and in my very few discussions with him, I have always been very respectful. Yes, I understand that we are all allowed to post messages sharing our thoughts and feelings. Gerald was replying to one of my posts and I was not completely understanding what he was getting at. Am I not allowed to ask him what his point was? That's all I was asking and I see no harm in that. If we do not understand the point someone is trying to make, are we not allowed to ask that person to elucidate their message? If you feel it was wrong for me to ask, can you please tell me why?
Blessings to you in Christ Jesus!