I did not type the word nave. I typed naive but somehow it showed up nave. In case it does it again when I hit the submit but, it should say naive (pronounced Nigh-Eve)
You has said something a few days ago (I can't find it) but it had to do with false teaching and how it might impact those who might be new believers.
Anyways, in my study today in Romans, a couple of verses pinged my memory and got me thinking about this.
Romans 16:17 says, Now I appeal to you, brethren, and listen to this, the command:
Mark them which cause divisions and offences.
The word mark is the work SKOPOS. We get our word scope from this word. And it is in present participle form in the Greek, which means continue to observe.
Be continually looking at those who cause divisions and offenses (SCANDALONS) contrary to the doctrine which you have learned.
Paul said in Galatians Chapter 1 that if anybody preaches any other gospel than that which he has preached, let them be accursed.
That's pretty bold and authoritative. If they preach contrary to the doctrine which Paul has taught and has given them, mark them. That's command number one. Command number two is avoid them. The word avoid means to go out of your way to avoid them.
Romans 16:18 gives us the characteristics of these people:
For they are such as serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; which is a term that is used for their own satisfaction.
And by good words.
Interesting. This is the word useful. With useful words and fair speeches (and this is the word eulogy) they deceive the hearts of the simple.
The word simple in the Greek text means nave. With useful words and fair speeches, they deceive the people who are nave.
These are those who may be the most vulnerable to any teaching that might be contrary to scripture.
Do you believe when your body dies, you will instantly be translated into the presence of God?
The Word preaches a kingdom of God, the Jews were looking for that kingdom and the king of it.
What they fail to see was that that kingdom was going to be without end, therefore it was necessary for death to be abolished.
They missed Christ as their redeemer, because they fail to see the necessity of HIS RESURRECTION,
Christ had to die and be raised to conquer death, so the kingdom could be without end, never ending.
The old had to be made new, and God chose to do away with the Levitical presthood and use the tribe of Judah, to be the new preisthood.
Before he can reinstate the kingdom back on earth, he must assemble all the priest he has called out.
These priest have to be given immortality, so they can serve eternally as priest in the kingdom. The called and chosen were given the gift of immortality by being raise with Christ in his resurrection.
Isaiah 26:19 ...together with my dead body shall they arise ...
Revelation 29:6 Blessed and holy is he who hath part in the first resurrection ....
All this is God's work, man is just the heir, he chooses at random, not out of loving one more than another.
Ezekiel 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I WILL bring you to the bond of the new covenant (immortality)
We have to be created again into the exact likeness of Christ to be a priest in the new kingdom, immortal and no corruption.
This is what the passover in the old coventent implied, blood on the house, and death passed over, we are the house of God, the new temple, in the new kingdom, Christ blood over us causes death to Passover, we are instantly translated into the kingdom, presence of God. This is the millennial reign with Christ, while he gathers the priesthood. It's not literally 1000 years, just the one day, the day of the Lord.
Luke 13:22-30, The priority of the straight gate. (Part 2)
Luke 13:27 - But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity (Literally unrighteousness).
These are those who have rejected Christ. They will not be allowed in.
Luke 13:28 - Speaking of those who are unsaved: "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out."
Luke 13:29 - Speaking of those who are saved: And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Luke 13:30 - This verse is the key to this section. It says, "And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last."
The application is that people are going to come from the east, west, north, and south. Other nations, the Gentiles, are going to come in and the end result is that a Hebrew or Jewish person that has rejected Christ, they are going to think "We are Hebrews, we are Jews, we are God's chosen people, and we should be there."
And He (Jesus) is saying no, the first will be last and the last be first. You will see many Gentiles enter in to the banqueting feast, but you yourself cast out!
Luke 13:22 - And he (Jesus) went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
Luke 13:23 - Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he (Jesus) said unto them,
Now why is this person is asking this question? It is like this person is telling Jesus, "We get the idea from you, from listening to your teachings that there are not very many people that are going to be saved because you just eliminated 99% of the people. Are there few that be saved?
Luke 13:24 - Jesus says, " Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."
The word "strive" is the word AGONIDZO where we get the word agonize from. Agonize to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
That is when this life is over. Jesus said in Matthew that the way of destruction, the gate is Broad, the road is broad. But the narrow gate and the straight road, and He says that there are very few that find it. So do you think that Jesus made it easy?
Only those people that had a heart for Him are the only ones that are going to go through that narrow gate and walk that straight road and give up the only life that they have by surrendering their life to Christ.
Luke 13:25 - When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luke 13:26 - Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
"Hey, didn't we eat dinner with you at the Pharisees house? And we drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets. You were at that street evangelism sermon that we heard."
I would like to add that we continue to grow and share as we go.
A teacher shares what he has gleaned from scripture by the revelation of the Spirit.
Everyone that shares is not a teacher but plays a profitable role in ministry. I myself is no teacher but one who shares what I believe.
There's a difference in being taught the word of God, and the word of God teaching us.
There should be production taken place "fruitfulness displayed" by virtue of the truth. I believe this is why Jesus says "You shall know them by their fruit.
There should be a shaping taken place that displays a connection to the vine, so their draw should be more than just doctrine.
NONE OF US WOULD EVER HAVE STAYED RIGHTEOUS IF WE WERE AS ADAM WAS
I often think about this. What if the sinful nature did not pass down to each human. Would there ever be anyone who lived life without sin? I think not. If Adam had not sinned then, he would have sinned later. If we did not have the sinful nature in us we would be influenced by the sinfulness of others and succumb to sinning. So, God was not being harsh when He consigned every human over to unbelief and disobedience. In doing so, no man can ever think or say that they were completely righteous and worthy of eternal life let alone be the savior of others. No man can pay the price for every human. It took the Son of God becoming THE Man to save us. Only God can pay the infinite penalty of humanity's incalculable wickedness in our sins which were an infinite offense to Him. And only a perfect human could be an approved substitute for mankind.
When we are resurrected, we will be glorified and be made perfect in our humanity, like the humanity of Jesus. But Jesus will always be, not only the perfect human, but also God. We will be like Him in His humanity, but never like Him in His divinity.
There is only one God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) and He is One LORD. ( Deut. 6:4) Let us worship Him as He has revealed Himself to be, not how we "make" Him to be. We must guard against idolatry, whether false beliefs about Him or the false belief that we will ever be like Him in His Godhood. "You shall have none other gods before Me". ( Deut. 5:7)
Lord, help us to "lay down our idols and the thrones we have made, all that has taken your place. Lord, I will bow to You, to no other God, but You alone." (from the Song Lord, I Will Bow to You)
When God created Adam and Eve (the first two humans) they soon disobeyed Him, believing the lie of Satan that they would be like God if they ate of the forbidden tree. Adam and Eve did not know what sin was, and did not know that disobedience would make them more like the tempter and unlike God. God knew this would happen, and before creation the Godhead chose to become the Savior of mankind by grace through the vicarious death of the Son of God after He incarnated in human form.
Another decision that the Godhead made before creation was to commit every human person over to disobedience and unbelief in order to have mercy upon humankind. ( Romans 11:32) He decided that the sinful nature would be passed on to every human when a new person is conceived. From conception, every human is corrupted by sin. With this one exception: Jesus was conceived by the power of God, not by the input of man, so He was not conceived with a sin nature. He remained the holy, pure, undefiled Son of God from conception on. He never sinned, never mis-spoke or made a mistake, ever.
because every other human was corrupted by the sinful nature, no one but Jesus could be the Saviour of Mankind. He alone of all humanity was without sin. No one else would qualify to be the perfect human to die for the sins of humanity, not an angel, not an animal, but the pure and spotless Son of God was the perfect sacrifice for our sins.
Sometimes we get very caught up in the death and resurrection of Jesus that we forget what qualified Him to be our sacrifice to take away the sins of the world. It wasn't because He loved us, or that He could just decide to do so. No, it was because He was perfect in all of His ways as God and as a man. We should look to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, at Who He is and how He lived and died for us. It was all for us - to the glory of God.
JESUS IS THE ONLY HUMAN WHO WAS AND IS TOTALLY RIGHTEOUS IN ALL OF HIS WAYS
This is because He is the one and only Son of God and Son of Man. He incarnated Himself (as God the Son) into a human body prepared for Him by the Father in Mary. From conception on, Jesus was fully God and fully man in one Person, the Person of the
Son of God. He is the only Incarnated Being in all of creation. Being indwelt with the Holy Spirit is not an incarnation as it is two persons inhabiting one body, the believer and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit's presence in the believer is not natural to mankind since the fall, but one of the wonderful blessings promised by Jesus, our Saviour. With Jesus, it is one Person, (the Son) taking upon Himself fully a human nature with a body, soul, and spirit. When one looks at Jesus one sees The Son of God in a fleshly body, not the Son of God overtaking an already existing human's body. And because of the unity of the Persons of the Godhead, Jesus could say, if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father ( John 12:45; John 14:9).
Before creation and before all time, the three members of the Godhead existed in complete joy, love, and unity. Together They willed to create a universe that would include heavenly spirit beings and beings made of matter. The heavenly beings and humans are the two groups of beings that were created to have relationship with the Godhead. Before creation, the Godhead decided that They would create both heavenly beings and humans capable of disobeying Him. Satan was the first to sin, being lifted up with pride, attempting to become equal with God and to usurp Him so that the heavenly hosts will worship him instead of their Maker. As many as one third of the angels followed after Satan into sin. God knew this would happen. He already planned not to offer salvation to fallen angels, but prepared the lake of fire for them to spend all of eternity when they are judged. ....
It is clear from our past interactions with those who continue to contend that we will achieve godhood along with other heresies related to this prideful, Satan inspired doctrine, they are will not (as of yet) repent of their false belief and recant. But, as you, I post responses now and then for the sake of those newcomers to this forum or those new in faith. It is very important, especially on a site such as this forum, for true doctrine to be presented regularly with Biblical support. And those who concur with those who present correct doctrine to reply that they are in agreement, as many as possible. We should be a united front against such terribly wrong doctrine as this "little gods" false teaching.
I don't think that many people really realize just how much was lost in the fall of Adam. To go from an altogether righteous and holy nature to change to a thoroughly, all-encompassing sinful nature that is passed to every person conceived is a huge loss as well as an almost unfathomable distance sin placed between God and mankind. Most people think that they are just a "little bit sinful" in relation to God. They do not realize that His infinite holiness and purity and perfection is something we can never compare ourselves to as there is no close comparison whatsoever.
For people to think that people in this life who are sinful even if saved can "be in the same class as God" as some who hold this distorted, wicked tenet say, we diminish our view of this aspect of God's complete perfection that is beyond what we can ever fully grasp even when we are resurrected and made perfect in our humanity. The gulf between God's perfection as deity and the perfection of our humanity in the life to come is immense. We dishonor God when we minimize this difference and especially dishonor Him when we attribute godhood to our present sinful selves. How sinful is that!
But we can know that we will be facing this narrative again and again. We are prayerful
Spencer ya gotta realize this new covenant is an all inclusive Covenant...While we yet sinners Christ died for all men....While we were yet sinners...Thats indicative of everybody...Via the blood of the lamb...If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me...Ya need to study this new covenant that was made at calvary in the blood of Jesus...Let the H.G. The anointing will teach you everything.
I was found of them that sought me not...Thats everybody... And made manifest unto them that asked not after me...Thats everybod...Thats the N.C. AN ALL inclusive Covenant by the blood of the lamb...God is no respector of persons...Read Jeremiah...31:34 and learn of this New Covenant....Stop reading commentaties by back sliden preachers !....You will thank me later...Gbu spencer
Spencer ya gotta realize this new covenant is an all inclusive Covenant...While we yet sinners Christ died for all men....While we were yet sinners...Thats indicative of everybody...Via the blood of the lamb...If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me...Ya need to study this new covenant that was made at calvary in the blood of Jesus...Let the H.G. The anointing will teach you everything.
I was found of them that sought me not...Thats everybody... And made manifest unto them that asked not after me...Thats everybod...Thats the N.C. AN ALL inclusive Covenant by the blood of the lamb...God is no respector of persons...Read Jeremiah...31:34 and learn of this New Covenant....Stop reading commentaties by back sliden preachers !....You will thank me later...Gbu spencer
The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from God and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth'.
You are absolutely right when you say "How can anyone think that God will not deal with humans who persist in the same sin any differently than He deals with Satan".
Well this group also says "There is no Satan! and there is no Hell!
Every verse in scripture that makes a sinner cry out for salvation they falsely spiritualize the threat right out the text causing no need for repentance.
I just point these things out from time to time to let the newcomers know the craftiness of their plot and we all don't hold those views.
Romans 16:17 tells us to mark these that causes division.
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them".
These false teachers permitted by God to manifest who's his and who's not. as seen here in 1 Corinthians 11:19.
"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you."
GiGi remember Jesus had to be born in MARY...And Jesus says whosoever receiveth one Child in my name receiveth me...She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations...ALL nations...Which answers to that Spirit of truth that Jesus said wd reprove this whole world of sin and righteousness and Judgement ...But Jesus says this spirit of truth will not speak of himself...Thats b/c the H.G. has to be born in us....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit...He is the result of the Sower and Jesus seed.. thats y Jesus has to know us...Even in the natural an infant cannot speak for a season....Gal.4:1 The heir as long as he is CHILD he differs nothin from a servant THO HE BE LORD OF ALL But is under governors and tutors till the time appointed of the FATHER...And Jesus is his father simply b/c its Jesus who sows that good seed in us..Lord of all is indicative of the H.G....The multiplication of very God in US...Remember that Child Prophet Jeremiah told God he cd not speak he was just a Child...But now under this N.C. our Prophet is the H.G. that has to be born in us...And rule all nations..Rev.12 :5...As that which is born of the spirit tis spirit...Which is the H.G. EMANUEL GOD WITH US....Only the H.G. abides with us for ever...Thus he is truly God with us Emanuel....Read Jeremiah 1 :6 That great Child prophet tells God he cannot speak of himself...But Jeremiah neva did destroy kingdoms and nations....He was just prophetic of the H.G. that heavenly Child that has to be born in us that is gonna rule all nations...The manchild...Unless you receieve the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...That precious woman giving birth is the result of the sower and his seed the contents of the book...That N.C....After the book is opened they all sang a new SONG...We will not sing this churchanity song much longer...We will sing the song of Moses and the lamb...The blood of the lamb will fulfill the law of Moses...ok gb
Ruby , I have read through your answer to me and I can't find anything in it that causes me any problems at all , your post to me is very clear and precise and scriptural , anyone who reads it will have a hard time disagreeing with you . Maybe that is what was all that was needed? A clear explanation . Well you gave it and thankyou so much , I hope everyone else reads it . The only thing that you and I differ on are the resurrections . I believe that the first will be when Christ returns , and the second will be at the end of Christ's millennial reign on earth when the humans who have lived and died during that one thousand years will be resurrected and judged , then comes the end and God will be all in all . Apart from that I cannot disagree with you . I have a J.W. friend , we have many long talks , face to face , and we disagree plenty but we always manage to be respectful and friendly , maybe because we actually look one another in the eye . I think people find it easier to be a bit aggresive when they are not in the same room as the person they are talking to . Hopefully now that you have made yourself very clear , we can all get along a bit better , I do hope so . Thanks for your excellent post / reply to me , we have a lot in common . May God bless you .
The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' and learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the Word of God and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth'.
If it is ambiguous regarding my beliefs on who is saved, I will clearly state that salvation is all encompassing. There was a time when it bothered me when I began to change my mind one hundred eighty degrees on this issue. Being what I consider a Christian since a young age, it was a rather fearful thought, considering the possibility I could be a heretic. Yet, for me to remain in a such a fearful and depressing state as I was at that time, even though I was well versed in the scriptures, I had to consider that something must be amiss. I ultimately realized that the possibility of heresy was better than remaining at suicides doorstep, as odd as this may seem to some readers. Therefore, please understand that I'm ok with that label if you or others wish to identify me as such, rather than God's Holy Creation. I will always respect your free will to choose to believe what you desire and will not purposely condemn or damn anyone, as this would be in violation of my system of thought striving to see only love in All God's creation, which I consider also to be the Vision of Christ.
In regards to your first question, I cannot answer for those whom you are perceiving as bothering your ministry. Yet if, as you stated that they stated, "you have nothing to lose whether you believe or not," I most definitely disagree. One would surely miss out on the joy and peace in this perceived life by not forgiving, and sharing the Love of Christ with ALL of God's creation.
As I said in a previous post: We who are not at war (opposition in our mind) must look for brothers and recognize all whom we see as brothers, because only equals are at peace. Choosing guilt always results in anger and in turn attack, thus destroying peace. God knows you only in peace, and this is our truth.
All power is of God. What is not of Him has no power to do anything.
Thank you Chris for your answer. I've got another question for you, if you don't mind or anybody who wants to answer. do you think the Spirit of truth in John Ch.14,15,and 16 could be the King James Bible? Which is The true Words of the LORD. Jn.14:26 speaks of the Comforter being the Holy Ghost and says it will "teach you all things". but in Jn.16:13 when the Spirit of truth is come this verse says he will "guide you into all truth". The word "guide" here means to show the way, (teacher) lead. All truth sounds like it has to be the True Words of the LORD..
Alex, I think you have assumed many things from the Scriptures you refer to and I think this is adding to Scripture. But, that said. I have stated my case to you in my posts and I really do not wish to continue this discussion beyond this reply because I do not think it is fruitful for the cause of Christ. Neither one of us are going to budge on our stance, so we can at this point be at a standstill and exit this discussion. I am happy to discuss with you topics beyond what we have discussed so far. I am sure that you have sound ideas to contribute to discussion on other matters.
In the context you seem to be given here, that we will be a god over what is given to us to rule over, then that is consistent with the language of the Scriptures in that what is meant by the world "god" in such a context refers to a ruler or one in authority. It does not imply true deity, as only the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit have true deity and alone are the One True God who is incomparable to any other being, not only because all other beings are created by Him, but that His Being is vastly different than any being He created.
Within the context of what you have stated, it could be said that a father or mother are "gods" over their children because they have God given authority over their children. And a president or king could be considered a "god" over those they whom they govern. But we must not mix together the Godhood of Jesus to be anything likened to these "gods" as He is both Truly God and truly man in one person. Any so called "god" on earth is merely human through and through, and any power or authority in the heavenly realm, be it angels or other celestial beings are "gods" in that they have delegated power and authority from God, but are strictly a created member of the heavenly hosts.
I assert in my posts that Scripture teaches that there is only one God who is truly divine, never created, infinite in His Being in every way, perfect and complete in every aspect about Himself without drawing from anything outside of Himself, self-sustaining, self-sufficient, and self-satisfied within Himself. He alone is eternal from everlasting to everlasting. He alone is the Sovereign of all things, excluding any other being as God. He alone is the one we worship and serve.
GiGi no sweetheart....The very fact that the bible refers to Jesus as THE BRIDEGROOM IS Indicative of multiplication and regeneration and regeneration and Jesus is God thus we are all gonna birth a baby Christ and Jesus is God....She brought forth a manchild which is the H.G. that is gonna rule all nations....Remember BRIDEGROOM IS INDICATIVE OF a Marriage MULTIPLICATION OF VERY God in US....Thats y Isaiah when he saw the kingdom coming says UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN...Unto us a son is given a baby Christ....GiGI the spirit can be born in us....BORN....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. that Child of Promise....ok lemme go...Thus that Spirit of truth that has to be born in us is just a spritual infant that cannot speak for a season....Read Jeremiah 1: 6....Lord i cannot Speak I AM BUT A LIL CHILD....OK LEMME GO
Psalms 91 some believe it's written by David. But others attributed to Moses due to its content and textual similarity to Psalm 90, its use of Deuteronomic language, and various
The secret place: Psalms 91, = 1Samuel 22:1, 2Samuel 23:13, Psalms 57:1, Psalms 142:1,
Another secret place : Matthew 6,
Hopefully these are helpful
I did not type the word nave. I typed naive but somehow it showed up nave. In case it does it again when I hit the submit but, it should say naive (pronounced Nigh-Eve)
You has said something a few days ago (I can't find it) but it had to do with false teaching and how it might impact those who might be new believers.
Anyways, in my study today in Romans, a couple of verses pinged my memory and got me thinking about this.
Romans 16:17 says, Now I appeal to you, brethren, and listen to this, the command:
Mark them which cause divisions and offences.
The word mark is the work SKOPOS. We get our word scope from this word. And it is in present participle form in the Greek, which means continue to observe.
Be continually looking at those who cause divisions and offenses (SCANDALONS) contrary to the doctrine which you have learned.
Paul said in Galatians Chapter 1 that if anybody preaches any other gospel than that which he has preached, let them be accursed.
That's pretty bold and authoritative. If they preach contrary to the doctrine which Paul has taught and has given them, mark them. That's command number one. Command number two is avoid them. The word avoid means to go out of your way to avoid them.
Romans 16:18 gives us the characteristics of these people:
For they are such as serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; which is a term that is used for their own satisfaction.
And by good words.
Interesting. This is the word useful. With useful words and fair speeches (and this is the word eulogy) they deceive the hearts of the simple.
The word simple in the Greek text means nave. With useful words and fair speeches, they deceive the people who are nave.
These are those who may be the most vulnerable to any teaching that might be contrary to scripture.
Any thoughts?
Do you believe when your body dies, you will instantly be translated into the presence of God?
The Word preaches a kingdom of God, the Jews were looking for that kingdom and the king of it.
What they fail to see was that that kingdom was going to be without end, therefore it was necessary for death to be abolished.
They missed Christ as their redeemer, because they fail to see the necessity of HIS RESURRECTION,
Christ had to die and be raised to conquer death, so the kingdom could be without end, never ending.
The old had to be made new, and God chose to do away with the Levitical presthood and use the tribe of Judah, to be the new preisthood.
Before he can reinstate the kingdom back on earth, he must assemble all the priest he has called out.
These priest have to be given immortality, so they can serve eternally as priest in the kingdom. The called and chosen were given the gift of immortality by being raise with Christ in his resurrection.
Isaiah 26:19 ...together with my dead body shall they arise ...
Revelation 29:6 Blessed and holy is he who hath part in the first resurrection ....
All this is God's work, man is just the heir, he chooses at random, not out of loving one more than another.
Ezekiel 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I WILL bring you to the bond of the new covenant (immortality)
We have to be created again into the exact likeness of Christ to be a priest in the new kingdom, immortal and no corruption.
This is what the passover in the old coventent implied, blood on the house, and death passed over, we are the house of God, the new temple, in the new kingdom, Christ blood over us causes death to Passover, we are instantly translated into the kingdom, presence of God. This is the millennial reign with Christ, while he gathers the priesthood. It's not literally 1000 years, just the one day, the day of the Lord.
God Bless You as we are given light.
Luke 13:27 - But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity (Literally unrighteousness).
These are those who have rejected Christ. They will not be allowed in.
Luke 13:28 - Speaking of those who are unsaved: "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out."
Luke 13:29 - Speaking of those who are saved: And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Luke 13:30 - This verse is the key to this section. It says, "And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last."
The application is that people are going to come from the east, west, north, and south. Other nations, the Gentiles, are going to come in and the end result is that a Hebrew or Jewish person that has rejected Christ, they are going to think "We are Hebrews, we are Jews, we are God's chosen people, and we should be there."
And He (Jesus) is saying no, the first will be last and the last be first. You will see many Gentiles enter in to the banqueting feast, but you yourself cast out!
Luke 13:22 - And he (Jesus) went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
Luke 13:23 - Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he (Jesus) said unto them,
Now why is this person is asking this question? It is like this person is telling Jesus, "We get the idea from you, from listening to your teachings that there are not very many people that are going to be saved because you just eliminated 99% of the people. Are there few that be saved?
Luke 13:24 - Jesus says, " Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."
The word "strive" is the word AGONIDZO where we get the word agonize from. Agonize to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
That is when this life is over. Jesus said in Matthew that the way of destruction, the gate is Broad, the road is broad. But the narrow gate and the straight road, and He says that there are very few that find it. So do you think that Jesus made it easy?
Only those people that had a heart for Him are the only ones that are going to go through that narrow gate and walk that straight road and give up the only life that they have by surrendering their life to Christ.
Luke 13:25 - When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luke 13:26 - Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
"Hey, didn't we eat dinner with you at the Pharisees house? And we drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets. You were at that street evangelism sermon that we heard."
Will continue as Part 2
I would like to add that we continue to grow and share as we go.
A teacher shares what he has gleaned from scripture by the revelation of the Spirit.
Everyone that shares is not a teacher but plays a profitable role in ministry. I myself is no teacher but one who shares what I believe.
There's a difference in being taught the word of God, and the word of God teaching us.
There should be production taken place "fruitfulness displayed" by virtue of the truth. I believe this is why Jesus says "You shall know them by their fruit.
There should be a shaping taken place that displays a connection to the vine, so their draw should be more than just doctrine.
Thanks and God bless.
I often think about this. What if the sinful nature did not pass down to each human. Would there ever be anyone who lived life without sin? I think not. If Adam had not sinned then, he would have sinned later. If we did not have the sinful nature in us we would be influenced by the sinfulness of others and succumb to sinning. So, God was not being harsh when He consigned every human over to unbelief and disobedience. In doing so, no man can ever think or say that they were completely righteous and worthy of eternal life let alone be the savior of others. No man can pay the price for every human. It took the Son of God becoming THE Man to save us. Only God can pay the infinite penalty of humanity's incalculable wickedness in our sins which were an infinite offense to Him. And only a perfect human could be an approved substitute for mankind.
When we are resurrected, we will be glorified and be made perfect in our humanity, like the humanity of Jesus. But Jesus will always be, not only the perfect human, but also God. We will be like Him in His humanity, but never like Him in His divinity.
There is only one God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) and He is One LORD. ( Deut. 6:4) Let us worship Him as He has revealed Himself to be, not how we "make" Him to be. We must guard against idolatry, whether false beliefs about Him or the false belief that we will ever be like Him in His Godhood. "You shall have none other gods before Me". ( Deut. 5:7)
Lord, help us to "lay down our idols and the thrones we have made, all that has taken your place. Lord, I will bow to You, to no other God, but You alone." (from the Song Lord, I Will Bow to You)
When God created Adam and Eve (the first two humans) they soon disobeyed Him, believing the lie of Satan that they would be like God if they ate of the forbidden tree. Adam and Eve did not know what sin was, and did not know that disobedience would make them more like the tempter and unlike God. God knew this would happen, and before creation the Godhead chose to become the Savior of mankind by grace through the vicarious death of the Son of God after He incarnated in human form.
Another decision that the Godhead made before creation was to commit every human person over to disobedience and unbelief in order to have mercy upon humankind. ( Romans 11:32) He decided that the sinful nature would be passed on to every human when a new person is conceived. From conception, every human is corrupted by sin. With this one exception: Jesus was conceived by the power of God, not by the input of man, so He was not conceived with a sin nature. He remained the holy, pure, undefiled Son of God from conception on. He never sinned, never mis-spoke or made a mistake, ever.
because every other human was corrupted by the sinful nature, no one but Jesus could be the Saviour of Mankind. He alone of all humanity was without sin. No one else would qualify to be the perfect human to die for the sins of humanity, not an angel, not an animal, but the pure and spotless Son of God was the perfect sacrifice for our sins.
Sometimes we get very caught up in the death and resurrection of Jesus that we forget what qualified Him to be our sacrifice to take away the sins of the world. It wasn't because He loved us, or that He could just decide to do so. No, it was because He was perfect in all of His ways as God and as a man. We should look to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, at Who He is and how He lived and died for us. It was all for us - to the glory of God.
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This is because He is the one and only Son of God and Son of Man. He incarnated Himself (as God the Son) into a human body prepared for Him by the Father in Mary. From conception on, Jesus was fully God and fully man in one Person, the Person of the
Son of God. He is the only Incarnated Being in all of creation. Being indwelt with the Holy Spirit is not an incarnation as it is two persons inhabiting one body, the believer and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit's presence in the believer is not natural to mankind since the fall, but one of the wonderful blessings promised by Jesus, our Saviour. With Jesus, it is one Person, (the Son) taking upon Himself fully a human nature with a body, soul, and spirit. When one looks at Jesus one sees The Son of God in a fleshly body, not the Son of God overtaking an already existing human's body. And because of the unity of the Persons of the Godhead, Jesus could say, if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father ( John 12:45; John 14:9).
Before creation and before all time, the three members of the Godhead existed in complete joy, love, and unity. Together They willed to create a universe that would include heavenly spirit beings and beings made of matter. The heavenly beings and humans are the two groups of beings that were created to have relationship with the Godhead. Before creation, the Godhead decided that They would create both heavenly beings and humans capable of disobeying Him. Satan was the first to sin, being lifted up with pride, attempting to become equal with God and to usurp Him so that the heavenly hosts will worship him instead of their Maker. As many as one third of the angels followed after Satan into sin. God knew this would happen. He already planned not to offer salvation to fallen angels, but prepared the lake of fire for them to spend all of eternity when they are judged. ....
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In the Hebrew there is no Capital G: God
god and all gods are lower case, translators put in the capital letter.
The Father is the god, all else are a god, you know which is which by the articles; the and a.
Jesus is a god, Jesus says he's is not the father, but was a god sent by the Father.
If you study the Psalms and understand it is Christ speaking and not David you will have better understanding.
2 Samuel 23:1-2
Read Psalms 69 with the understanding it is Jesus speaking, NOT DAVID.
The whole bible are the WORDS OF GOD, not the words of the man that set those words to paper.
God Bless YOU!
It is clear from our past interactions with those who continue to contend that we will achieve godhood along with other heresies related to this prideful, Satan inspired doctrine, they are will not (as of yet) repent of their false belief and recant. But, as you, I post responses now and then for the sake of those newcomers to this forum or those new in faith. It is very important, especially on a site such as this forum, for true doctrine to be presented regularly with Biblical support. And those who concur with those who present correct doctrine to reply that they are in agreement, as many as possible. We should be a united front against such terribly wrong doctrine as this "little gods" false teaching.
I don't think that many people really realize just how much was lost in the fall of Adam. To go from an altogether righteous and holy nature to change to a thoroughly, all-encompassing sinful nature that is passed to every person conceived is a huge loss as well as an almost unfathomable distance sin placed between God and mankind. Most people think that they are just a "little bit sinful" in relation to God. They do not realize that His infinite holiness and purity and perfection is something we can never compare ourselves to as there is no close comparison whatsoever.
For people to think that people in this life who are sinful even if saved can "be in the same class as God" as some who hold this distorted, wicked tenet say, we diminish our view of this aspect of God's complete perfection that is beyond what we can ever fully grasp even when we are resurrected and made perfect in our humanity. The gulf between God's perfection as deity and the perfection of our humanity in the life to come is immense. We dishonor God when we minimize this difference and especially dishonor Him when we attribute godhood to our present sinful selves. How sinful is that!
But we can know that we will be facing this narrative again and again. We are prayerful
I was found of them that sought me not...Thats everybody... And made manifest unto them that asked not after me...Thats everybod...Thats the N.C. AN ALL inclusive Covenant by the blood of the lamb...God is no respector of persons...Read Jeremiah...31:34 and learn of this New Covenant....Stop reading commentaties by back sliden preachers !....You will thank me later...Gbu spencer
I was found of them that sought me not...Thats everybody... And made manifest unto them that asked not after me...Thats everybod...Thats the N.C. AN ALL inclusive Covenant by the blood of the lamb...God is no respector of persons...Read Jeremiah...31:34 and learn of this New Covenant....Stop reading commentaties by back sliden preachers !....You will thank me later...Gbu spencer
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from God and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth'.
You are absolutely right when you say "How can anyone think that God will not deal with humans who persist in the same sin any differently than He deals with Satan".
Well this group also says "There is no Satan! and there is no Hell!
Every verse in scripture that makes a sinner cry out for salvation they falsely spiritualize the threat right out the text causing no need for repentance.
I just point these things out from time to time to let the newcomers know the craftiness of their plot and we all don't hold those views.
Romans 16:17 tells us to mark these that causes division.
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them".
These false teachers permitted by God to manifest who's his and who's not. as seen here in 1 Corinthians 11:19.
"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you."
God bless.
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' and learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the Word of God and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth'.
If it is ambiguous regarding my beliefs on who is saved, I will clearly state that salvation is all encompassing. There was a time when it bothered me when I began to change my mind one hundred eighty degrees on this issue. Being what I consider a Christian since a young age, it was a rather fearful thought, considering the possibility I could be a heretic. Yet, for me to remain in a such a fearful and depressing state as I was at that time, even though I was well versed in the scriptures, I had to consider that something must be amiss. I ultimately realized that the possibility of heresy was better than remaining at suicides doorstep, as odd as this may seem to some readers. Therefore, please understand that I'm ok with that label if you or others wish to identify me as such, rather than God's Holy Creation. I will always respect your free will to choose to believe what you desire and will not purposely condemn or damn anyone, as this would be in violation of my system of thought striving to see only love in All God's creation, which I consider also to be the Vision of Christ.
In regards to your first question, I cannot answer for those whom you are perceiving as bothering your ministry. Yet if, as you stated that they stated, "you have nothing to lose whether you believe or not," I most definitely disagree. One would surely miss out on the joy and peace in this perceived life by not forgiving, and sharing the Love of Christ with ALL of God's creation.
As I said in a previous post: We who are not at war (opposition in our mind) must look for brothers and recognize all whom we see as brothers, because only equals are at peace. Choosing guilt always results in anger and in turn attack, thus destroying peace. God knows you only in peace, and this is our truth.
All power is of God. What is not of Him has no power to do anything.
You are truly blessed.
GOD IS
In the context you seem to be given here, that we will be a god over what is given to us to rule over, then that is consistent with the language of the Scriptures in that what is meant by the world "god" in such a context refers to a ruler or one in authority. It does not imply true deity, as only the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit have true deity and alone are the One True God who is incomparable to any other being, not only because all other beings are created by Him, but that His Being is vastly different than any being He created.
Within the context of what you have stated, it could be said that a father or mother are "gods" over their children because they have God given authority over their children. And a president or king could be considered a "god" over those they whom they govern. But we must not mix together the Godhood of Jesus to be anything likened to these "gods" as He is both Truly God and truly man in one person. Any so called "god" on earth is merely human through and through, and any power or authority in the heavenly realm, be it angels or other celestial beings are "gods" in that they have delegated power and authority from God, but are strictly a created member of the heavenly hosts.
I assert in my posts that Scripture teaches that there is only one God who is truly divine, never created, infinite in His Being in every way, perfect and complete in every aspect about Himself without drawing from anything outside of Himself, self-sustaining, self-sufficient, and self-satisfied within Himself. He alone is eternal from everlasting to everlasting. He alone is the Sovereign of all things, excluding any other being as God. He alone is the one we worship and serve.
"The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."
Psalms 91 some believe it's written by David. But others attributed to Moses due to its content and textual similarity to Psalm 90, its use of Deuteronomic language, and various