In verse 24 the bible says "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."
To keep the way of the tree of life, does that mean to keep the way open or to keep the way closed? Two trees were in the midst of the garden and only one of them was forbidden. Does that mean they could have eaten from the tree of life at any time?
The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).
It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).
Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).
And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).
The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).
Alex1939 We have the true Words of the LORD somewhere today, God promised that He would preserve His Words for ever.. Where are they? Jn. 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn.1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,. . . (JESUS WAS THAT WORD) Jn.6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (Jesus said His words are spirit and they are life) Peter said in verse 68 Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. The words of Jesus are ETERNAL life, in Jn.14:23-24 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. verse 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Fathers which sent me. Jn.17:17 Sancitfy them through thy truth: thy word is truth. (God promised His pure Words would be preserved for ever, which means we have it for the final generation, it is the KJB, the Spirit of truth!) Pro.30:5 tell us EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE! pure means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound.. Ps.12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (A time in the Bible in many places means 1 year, purified seven times= purified 7 years.) How long did it take to translate the KJB? 7 YEARS!
It says all should be treated the same with no favoritism. A certain political group virtue signals that some of a certain skin color were enslaved by some rich people in their own political group about 150-250 years ago. But all those people are dead. No one they're referring to are alive to give any such reparations back to, except they assume that by giving it to descendants then somehow something is made right? You can't change the past and it seems wrong to steal from one group to pay others who were never enslaved. It also seems wrong to show favoritism and act like if you have a certain skin shade that you deserve more sympathy or more money or pandering. What we see on TV is a circus. The Japanese and Germans enslaved and killed people only 81 years ago, but people somehow aren't demanding money for that, but for something twice as long ago. Meanwhile, there are child slaves coming across the southern border trafficked from cartels and other criminals but people aren't as upset about that either. There are also people enslaved right now in China, countries in Africa and other places that don't have people as upset about either. They are alive, and are imprisoned. There are even people in the US itself imprisoned as slaves who had no trial and just happened to be at the politically wrong place at the wrong time, and they are still alive too. What I see is amazing hypocrisy about money and privilege and victimhood as a form of self-worship as if somehow one who was never a slave was harmed, rather than actually helping current slaves alive now. God bless.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christ (Christ is the word, so there shall arise false words), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE (but is not possible), they should deceive the very elect.
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, WHO WERE ORDAINED TO THIS CONDEMNATION .....
God says he himself has caused this and brought it to pass.
Luke 22:31 ....Satan has desired to have you, THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU as wheat ....
Luke 22:32 But I WILL PRAY FOR YOU: that your faith (the faith of Christ) fail not .... IT'S CHRIST'S WORKS ....
Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, HIS STRANGE WORK; and bring TO PASS his act, HIS STRANGE ACT.
Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his maker! Let the potsherds strive with the potsherds of the earth, Shall the clay say to him that fashioned it, What makest thou? OR THY WORK, He hath no hands?
Isaiah 48:10 Behold I have refined the, but not with silver, I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself; but endureth for awhile, and when tribulations and persecutions ariseth because of the WORD, by and by he is offended.
Christ had many disciples, but when the words became to hard for them they went the way of the world.
Matthew 13:23 ..... and false prophets, shall show great signs and wonders .....
Revelation .... and with him the false prophet ....were cast alive into the a lake of fire burning with BRIMSTONE
Isaiah 30:33 ....the breath of the Lord, like a stream of BRIMSTONE, doeth kindle it.
Isaiah 33:14 ...Who among us SHALL DWELL with the devouring fire ( Hebrews 12:29)? who amongst us SHALL DWELL with everlasting burning?
Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
Isaiah 9:18 ...and the people shall be the fuel of the fire .....
I do believe your interpretation is accurate. There is a whole smorgasbord of teachings out there, and God allows people to choose what they want to chase after.
Paul did say there must be heresies. The word must is the word necessary and the Greek word means binding. It must happen!
The word heresy comes from the root word that means choice. That's what a heresy is. When I choose to believe that the bible is teaching something that's not in the bible, that's a heresy. I'm choosing to believe it.
Most of the church today is made up of heresies and that's what divides one church from another church. We can go over the same scriptures, and one side says "We believe that it says this," and another side will say "Well, we believe it means this!"
It's interesting that Paul didn't say "There shouldn't be any heresies." Did you know that God ordains division? And there are two divisions in life that are ordained of God.
Preaching is for the unsaved. It causes a division. Teaching is for the saved. And it also causes division.
But Paul says that there must be heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. And the word approved means to approve something after testing. It's not I approve of you because I agree, but I put you to the test.
According to His will! It's pretty much common sense that if you make a request of anyone, according to their desire (or will), then they will hear you. A lot of things that have to do with following the Lord is simple common sense. We are the ones that make walking with the Lord harder than it should be. In 1997 the Lord got a much better hold of my heart. One of the first things he taught me was to simplify. Keep it simple folks, it works!
Thank you again Chris for your answer. it seems to me that the Spirit of truth is connected to the Comforter the Holy Spirit, they are mentioned together in several verses, and in Ps. 12:6-7 we are told that the words of the LORD are pure words, (pure means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound) and that they are preserved for ever. it seems like that has to be the King James Bible, and in 2 Pet.1:20-21 we are told the prophecy of the scripture is not of any private interpretation (private means ones own) and that the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (the word spake here can mean to lay forth, relate in words) I believe these holy men of God who were moved by the Holy Ghost were the translators of the KJB. thats how God preserved His Word for people in this last generation. they were moved by the Holy Ghost translating every word, the Spirit of truth and the Holy Ghost are connected. Jer. Ch.23 is written to false prophets, and pastors, in verse 36 it says "for ye have perverted the words of the living God", the word perverted means (to change) so this verse is saying they changed the words of the living God. Modern versions are private interpretations (ones own) the Holy Spirit is not connected to them. Jn.16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. The things to come is prophecy for the Lastdays. It's the KJB.. what are your thoughts?
This form of self-transformation is also referred to as self-righteousness ( Romans 10-3), while in truth you follow after a image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15) and deceived the whole world ( Rev. 12:9), as people by nature are in fact children of the devil ( Acts 13:10).
Gal. 1:11,12. The gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1).
The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and the scriptural references we use serve as confirmation that it is not us that speak, but the Spirit of our Father that speaketh in us ( 2 Samuel 23:2; Matthew 10:20; Acts 4:8; 6:10).
Narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).
It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).
Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).
And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).
The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).
Hi Jimbob...If i understand you correctly ..are you saying that maybe the written words of the bible
are the real spirits of truth words of life .etc...Jimbob if the bible the written word cd have atoned for the sins of the world then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness.
Its only the spirit as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit tis spirit is the real words of life the H.G a living being....A living being that has to be born in us...via his seed his words...The H.G. That Child of PROMISE.Our new birth is in the spiritual realm.
We refer to the H.G the spirit of truth as a him not an it...He is our 1st born our only son as Zech 12.10 says..When we are bornagain of his incorruptible seed.
And in 1st John 2:27 The Anointing which you have received of him is the H.G. will teach you all things..You need no man teach you
Under the New Covenant we have an internal pastor/teacher which is the H.G....God That Child of Promise....The Anointing
But Jimbob ISRAEL was sola scriptura...The bible only....But there in no liife in written words....Israel stoned every prophets that God sent them and rejected the Christ...Which of the prophets have not your fathers stoned Jesus asked....Written words cannot atone for the sins of
the world....Or change mans adamic nature....David comes to mind...But Jimbob you are right the comforter will teach us all things
But what folks don't understand is this comforter has to be born in us....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. That Child of Promise..Thats y he cannot speak of himself he is just a spritual infant.our new Born.
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not an it...Jesus words are living beings (Gods)...To whom Jesus word came His seeds his breath they were impregnated by his
seeds and they birth Spirits as God the H.G. is spiri
The moon has tremendous power. It has the ability to move mountains. The ability to fill rivers, the ability to make more room if it needs too! Prophecy is hidden in the scriptures, enough so one might say ,it is life! Such are the words of the apostle John!" In him was life; and the life was the light of men". Amazing the extent man will go , denying Christ! The power that overcomes mans will and fulfills His own! Many will be deceived in the last days, this is not Gods will but man's. Reading the Bible "Gods word" is His will for you and me! Jesus said ,"judge not according to appearance, but make righteous judgment! If you do not know what that means, you may soon find out!
Yes Kala Jesus says if i be lifted up ( his blood ) that New Covenant he made at Calvary. I will draw all men unto me.
But Jesus said every sinner has to go thru that lake of fire....Which is that baptism of the H.G. and fire....That baptism of PROMISE
Thats y Jesus is saying i come to bring fire on the earth...Which we all need...As our God is a consuming fire...Which is baptism of the H.G. and fire...His wrath is his love for humanity...Whom the lord loveth he chastens...ok gbu Kala....The reason i mentioned that New Covenant in his blood is the book of life is the result of the new covenant in his blood and his blood is life the book of life.
Thank you for sharing that, brother. No one should ever claim to have all the answers - we must be humble before the Lord & His Word, waiting patiently for His Teaching, with Him opening our hearts to receive as much as we need to hear & learn. When the teacher & student know that they are in the same position (one of learning), albeit at different levels, the whole acquiring of knowledge (& wisdom to apply it correctly), should become a time of mutual fellowship around God's Word, sharing together what they learn. As you wrote, 'our connection together is to the Vine' - what we draw from Him will be our spiritual sustenance & what we receive, must be imparted for another's good.
Ruby , I've just discovered the ' Amen ' page of this site , be encouraged ! A lot of your posts are on there ! It would seem that there is a large silent majority and a small but very loud minority . It looks like there are a lot of people out there who do understand what you are saying and because they understand they are not offended . Good news !
All sin minus denying Christ as your Saviour is a "sin not unto death" The sin unto death God speaks of in the Bible is denying Christ Jesus as your Saviour...ALL other sins are sins not unto death because God can forgive them!
Thanks Ruby , again , I agree with everything that you said ,except the last bit . I believe that when I die I stay dead until Christ returns to earth . How ever long I'm in the grave won't matter to me , it will just be an instant as I'm not aware of anything . I do believe that Christ will physically return to earth , resurrect me and judge me , hopefully acceptable , he will then reign , physically , from Jerusalem , over the earth. Humans will live and die during his one thousand year reign , at the end of which there shall be a rebellion against him that will be put down ( satan and his followers cast into the lake of fire ) the last enemy to be destroyed will be death as the final resurrection takes place , those that died during the one thousand year reign and the humans that are alive and didn't take part in the rebellion , they will all be translated and God will be all in all , no more sinful flesh at all , all things made new and the earth shall be filled with the glory or the LORD for ever . Those are my beliefs very quickly typed . Thank you for listening and thank you so much for sharing . I like to emphasize the things that we have in common , which if we would all talk about those things , would be very uplifting to us all in these miserable last days , talking about our collective hope is much more edifying than banging on about our differences , I guess some people like an arguement more than others do . I don't enjoy arguing and tend to shy away from those who I think might be looking for negatives to dwell on rather than the positives . It's good to talk to you without fear of it getting nasty . Much love in Christ .
Hi Donna...I think the secret place is our hearts and minds that is prone to evil...But thats y God wants to give us a new heart and a new spirit....A new innerman....The H.G....Thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed.ok GBU
Hi again Jimbob. Clearly, from reading those chapters in John's Gospel, the Spirit of Truth is God's Holy Spirit and the King James Bible, or anything or anyone else, was never intended to be inferred by that Holy Name.
But I hear what you're saying. If indeed the Holy Spirit speaks to our hearts from the Word, as He does in whatever other way that seems good to Him, then the Word we read must be true & faithful to the actual words & events that took place & recorded for us. Often I think, 'how wonderful it would be if every new born believer was strongly encouraged to learn Hebrew & Greek (at least at the elementary level), that we might have a stronger understanding of the Word'. Maybe some of our questions & disputes could easily be settled at that level. The KJV translators have done a remarkable work in translating from the original manuscripts, as many of them were skilled in these languages; but by using verbiage that was in vogue at that time, can at times be misunderstood or even misleading today, if the original language is unlearned.
A classic example is found in Psalm 82 where the mention of God & gods (in verses 1 & 6) are the same Hebrew word, Elohim. Yet, that word is not strictly confined to always mean the One True God, and can also refer to divine beings, other gods/goddesses, judges, & mighty rulers. But the Hebrew reader would understand this broad meaning, but will also know its specific meaning in the context of the verses. As we see in verse 1, that the One Holy God who "judges among the gods", immediately reprimands these 'gods' for judging unjustly & showing partiality. And again in verse 6, these same judges, given special appointment by God, will be dealt with greater harshness.
And yes , I would only read from the KJV, but have to admit that if a new believer or seeker of Truth finds he is unable to grasp that 17th Century English style of writing, then I would allow him, with caution, to read the Bible in modern English.
Yes, I'm concerned that they might turn them away from the site, or stand in the way of truth and impact their growth.
Especially kids and young adults.
But of someone of age you might see clarity of scripture performed right before your eyes.
However when you look at those verses along with others like
1 Corinthians 11:19 "For there must be also heresies among you, THAT THEY WHICH ARE APPROVED MAY BE MADE MANIFEST AMONG YOU.
And.
1 John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US."
If i interpret those right, you must come to the conclusion that God is in control and there won't be no excuses.
That wide gate seems to have a lot of appeal to some.
These decievers and those that follow them is all a part of God's sifting program.
To keep the way of the tree of life, does that mean to keep the way open or to keep the way closed? Two trees were in the midst of the garden and only one of them was forbidden. Does that mean they could have eaten from the tree of life at any time?
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).
It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).
Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).
And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).
The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).
James 2:9
Romans 2:11
James 2:1-26
Deuteronomy 10:17
Galatians 3:28
Acts 10:34
It says all should be treated the same with no favoritism. A certain political group virtue signals that some of a certain skin color were enslaved by some rich people in their own political group about 150-250 years ago. But all those people are dead. No one they're referring to are alive to give any such reparations back to, except they assume that by giving it to descendants then somehow something is made right? You can't change the past and it seems wrong to steal from one group to pay others who were never enslaved. It also seems wrong to show favoritism and act like if you have a certain skin shade that you deserve more sympathy or more money or pandering. What we see on TV is a circus. The Japanese and Germans enslaved and killed people only 81 years ago, but people somehow aren't demanding money for that, but for something twice as long ago. Meanwhile, there are child slaves coming across the southern border trafficked from cartels and other criminals but people aren't as upset about that either. There are also people enslaved right now in China, countries in Africa and other places that don't have people as upset about either. They are alive, and are imprisoned. There are even people in the US itself imprisoned as slaves who had no trial and just happened to be at the politically wrong place at the wrong time, and they are still alive too. What I see is amazing hypocrisy about money and privilege and victimhood as a form of self-worship as if somehow one who was never a slave was harmed, rather than actually helping current slaves alive now. God bless.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christ (Christ is the word, so there shall arise false words), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE (but is not possible), they should deceive the very elect.
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, WHO WERE ORDAINED TO THIS CONDEMNATION .....
God says he himself has caused this and brought it to pass.
Luke 22:31 ....Satan has desired to have you, THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU as wheat ....
Luke 22:32 But I WILL PRAY FOR YOU: that your faith (the faith of Christ) fail not .... IT'S CHRIST'S WORKS ....
Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, HIS STRANGE WORK; and bring TO PASS his act, HIS STRANGE ACT.
Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his maker! Let the potsherds strive with the potsherds of the earth, Shall the clay say to him that fashioned it, What makest thou? OR THY WORK, He hath no hands?
Isaiah 48:10 Behold I have refined the, but not with silver, I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself; but endureth for awhile, and when tribulations and persecutions ariseth because of the WORD, by and by he is offended.
Christ had many disciples, but when the words became to hard for them they went the way of the world.
Matthew 13:23 ..... and false prophets, shall show great signs and wonders .....
Revelation .... and with him the false prophet ....were cast alive into the a lake of fire burning with BRIMSTONE
Isaiah 30:33 ....the breath of the Lord, like a stream of BRIMSTONE, doeth kindle it.
Isaiah 33:14 ...Who among us SHALL DWELL with the devouring fire ( Hebrews 12:29)? who amongst us SHALL DWELL with everlasting burning?
Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
Isaiah 9:18 ...and the people shall be the fuel of the fire .....
God Bless YOU!
I do believe your interpretation is accurate. There is a whole smorgasbord of teachings out there, and God allows people to choose what they want to chase after.
Paul did say there must be heresies. The word must is the word necessary and the Greek word means binding. It must happen!
The word heresy comes from the root word that means choice. That's what a heresy is. When I choose to believe that the bible is teaching something that's not in the bible, that's a heresy. I'm choosing to believe it.
Most of the church today is made up of heresies and that's what divides one church from another church. We can go over the same scriptures, and one side says "We believe that it says this," and another side will say "Well, we believe it means this!"
It's interesting that Paul didn't say "There shouldn't be any heresies." Did you know that God ordains division? And there are two divisions in life that are ordained of God.
Preaching is for the unsaved. It causes a division. Teaching is for the saved. And it also causes division.
But Paul says that there must be heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. And the word approved means to approve something after testing. It's not I approve of you because I agree, but I put you to the test.
Guess what the test is? The word of God!
God bless you and all you do to help this community, by example and word.
God bless.
This form of self-transformation is also referred to as self-righteousness ( Romans 10-3), while in truth you follow after a image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15) and deceived the whole world ( Rev. 12:9), as people by nature are in fact children of the devil ( Acts 13:10).
Gal. 1:11,12. The gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1).
The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and the scriptural references we use serve as confirmation that it is not us that speak, but the Spirit of our Father that speaketh in us ( 2 Samuel 23:2; Matthew 10:20; Acts 4:8; 6:10).
Narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).
May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).
It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).
Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).
And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).
The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).
are the real spirits of truth words of life .etc...Jimbob if the bible the written word cd have atoned for the sins of the world then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness.
Its only the spirit as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit tis spirit is the real words of life the H.G a living being....A living being that has to be born in us...via his seed his words...The H.G. That Child of PROMISE.Our new birth is in the spiritual realm.
We refer to the H.G the spirit of truth as a him not an it...He is our 1st born our only son as Zech 12.10 says..When we are bornagain of his incorruptible seed.
And in 1st John 2:27 The Anointing which you have received of him is the H.G. will teach you all things..You need no man teach you
Under the New Covenant we have an internal pastor/teacher which is the H.G....God That Child of Promise....The Anointing
But Jimbob ISRAEL was sola scriptura...The bible only....But there in no liife in written words....Israel stoned every prophets that God sent them and rejected the Christ...Which of the prophets have not your fathers stoned Jesus asked....Written words cannot atone for the sins of
the world....Or change mans adamic nature....David comes to mind...But Jimbob you are right the comforter will teach us all things
But what folks don't understand is this comforter has to be born in us....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. That Child of Promise..Thats y he cannot speak of himself he is just a spritual infant.our new Born.
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not an it...Jesus words are living beings (Gods)...To whom Jesus word came His seeds his breath they were impregnated by his
seeds and they birth Spirits as God the H.G. is spiri
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Repent and be Baptized
But Jesus said every sinner has to go thru that lake of fire....Which is that baptism of the H.G. and fire....That baptism of PROMISE
Thats y Jesus is saying i come to bring fire on the earth...Which we all need...As our God is a consuming fire...Which is baptism of the H.G. and fire...His wrath is his love for humanity...Whom the lord loveth he chastens...ok gbu Kala....The reason i mentioned that New Covenant in his blood is the book of life is the result of the new covenant in his blood and his blood is life the book of life.
God bless you brother.
But I hear what you're saying. If indeed the Holy Spirit speaks to our hearts from the Word, as He does in whatever other way that seems good to Him, then the Word we read must be true & faithful to the actual words & events that took place & recorded for us. Often I think, 'how wonderful it would be if every new born believer was strongly encouraged to learn Hebrew & Greek (at least at the elementary level), that we might have a stronger understanding of the Word'. Maybe some of our questions & disputes could easily be settled at that level. The KJV translators have done a remarkable work in translating from the original manuscripts, as many of them were skilled in these languages; but by using verbiage that was in vogue at that time, can at times be misunderstood or even misleading today, if the original language is unlearned.
A classic example is found in Psalm 82 where the mention of God & gods (in verses 1 & 6) are the same Hebrew word, Elohim. Yet, that word is not strictly confined to always mean the One True God, and can also refer to divine beings, other gods/goddesses, judges, & mighty rulers. But the Hebrew reader would understand this broad meaning, but will also know its specific meaning in the context of the verses. As we see in verse 1, that the One Holy God who "judges among the gods", immediately reprimands these 'gods' for judging unjustly & showing partiality. And again in verse 6, these same judges, given special appointment by God, will be dealt with greater harshness.
And yes , I would only read from the KJV, but have to admit that if a new believer or seeker of Truth finds he is unable to grasp that 17th Century English style of writing, then I would allow him, with caution, to read the Bible in modern English.
This is some passages I clearly overlooked!
Luke 13:23-24.
Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
There's no way to spin this towards a universal salvation.
God bless.
Yes, I'm concerned that they might turn them away from the site, or stand in the way of truth and impact their growth.
Especially kids and young adults.
But of someone of age you might see clarity of scripture performed right before your eyes.
However when you look at those verses along with others like
1 Corinthians 11:19 "For there must be also heresies among you, THAT THEY WHICH ARE APPROVED MAY BE MADE MANIFEST AMONG YOU.
And.
1 John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US."
If i interpret those right, you must come to the conclusion that God is in control and there won't be no excuses.
That wide gate seems to have a lot of appeal to some.
These decievers and those that follow them is all a part of God's sifting program.
Am I interpreting this right?
I'm really not sure.
Thank you and others for all your
help. God bless.
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Psalms 1:1-3, Proverbs 3:5,6, Luke 6,
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