This great Angel comes "robed in a cloud." A cloud is characteristic again of the nation Israel. Remember that when Israel was marching through the desert they were preceded by a cloud by day and followed by a pillar of fire by night. Actually the same cloud came to the rear at night and was lighted from some kind of fire within so that it appeared as a glowing, brilliant pillar. Later, when the tabernacle was completed, and later still when the temple was built, this same cloud came down and filled the Holy of Holies. It was called the Shekinah, the cloud of glory, an indication of the presence of God. So right from the start we have a clue that identifies this Angel as the Lord himself, Jesus, God the Son, appearing as the Angel of Jehovah.
Then we learn he has a rainbow above his head. We last saw a rainbow in Chapter 4 of this book, around the throne of God. The Angel's face, we are told, was "like the sun," and "his legs [actually, the word is feet] were like fiery pillars." That takes us back to Chapter 1 where John saw the vision of Jesus standing amid the churches. John describes his face as shining like the sun and his feet were like burnished, glowing bronze. Here, as John watched, he saw the Angel plant one foot upon the land and the other upon the sea, so that he stood astride the earth as a giant colossus. This symbolizes, of course, his ownership of the entire earth. Here is the rightful owner of earth, standing like a great colossus, claiming the earth for himself. The last clue is that he "roared like a lion." This goes back to the scene in Chapter 4 where we saw the slain Lamb who is also the Lion of the tribe of Judah. He roars in triumph over the earth. So once again we have indications that Israel is coming into view again as God's people whom he desires to use in a special way throughout the period of judgment of the last days and to continue on into the establishment of the kingdom after the return of Jesus.
Hello again Fred, just did an internet search on this and it is common to ancient Egypt religious thought, Hindu and Buddhist thought, the occult and New Age. So, in my opinion, referring to or encouraging that anyone should indulge their interest in the third eye is against God's holy ways. It is.. in essence, witchcraft and sorcery, of which we are told again and again to not participate in.
Thank you for bringing this up. I have not read a post on this in the last year or so that I have been on here, so it is good to speak to ideas that are "floating" around in the secular world and among believers, too. We need to be wise about these things, but remain innocent in refusing to participate in them in any way.
GiGi I wouldn't agree with that GiGi, I think the KJB was only to change spelling where it was so hard to read the words from that time period. The Niv has changed not just once, but maybe several times. Also the Niv not only change words but they leave out complete verse. Have you checked Ps.12:6-7 yet? Then there's the fact that they leave out the words "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" that should be an eye opener right there. Why would they leave those words out? We fight a spiritual war today, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. The evil has been building against Believers for many, many years. Modern versions are not Inspired by God!
In 1 Samuel 5-6 (KJV), God afflicts the Philistines with emerods in His anger over their taking the Ark of the Covenant from the Israelites. The word translated "emerods" in the King James Version comes from a root word literally meaning "to swell," and the Hebrew word translated "emerods" literally means "mound." This is basically all we know about emerods, but the context has led historians and Bible commentators to conclude that the plague of emerods was actually an occurrence of tumors, boils, or possibly hemorrhoids or "piles." Most translations of 1 Samuel 5:6 say the affliction was "tumors"; the ISV says "tumors of the groin"; and the Darby translation says "hemorrhoids."
Sorry Jesse but that is not true. Mt.24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. (generation) #1074; it means a generation, by implying an age (the ((period)) or the persons) age, generation, nation, ((time)). It means the period, and also time. Using this word in context is using it as a time period, the number of years in the Last generation that all things written will be fulfilled in. Hey thanks for your reply Jesse.
how many Christians will be saved during the rapture ? Read Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
how do u turn ur life to Jesus? By acknowledging and confessing to the Lord that we are sinners in need of his salvation. Inviting him into our lives asking him to take over Nothing fancy nothing complicated
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
BUT KNOW THIS once you make that confession of repentance there's a great celebration in heaven
Jesus said, "I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents" ( Luke 15:10)
Praise the Lord I pray the Lord your strength and guidance that he bless you and bring people around you that are after his own heart. God bless
Perhaps for some of the Israelites, their obedience did lead to trust in, at the very least, the providential provision of the Lord God YHWH.
. . . AND as should our unwavering belief in the Son of God YHWH - Jesus Christ who resides in our lives/hearts and minds; ie. human tabernacle /sanctuary,;
ALLOW, the Holy Spirit (the cloud/fire), to LEAD US WHEN AND WHERE, ACCORDING to the will of the Father; while we are in trust and obedience of His voice within our own selves.
And STILL yet he KNOWS - - -
WHERE WE, the redeemed go and are going; IF, we are determining to allow the Holy Spirit to LEAD in each and every wilderness of each and every individual life! . . .
SO THEN: when ordained changes are upon us; say
vs.35."Rise up, LORD and let thine enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee flee before thee." and when it is over; say:
vs.36..."Return, O LORD unto the many thousands of Israel"
GiGi You should also check Jer.23:36 The Niv changes the word perverted, which means (to change). They change it to distort, which is perverting the Word! That also takes away the opportunity to get the true meaning of the word. Thats their intent, twisting the words , which makes them not true Words of God..
That's very interesting GiGi. It seems that the NIV must have gone through a major revision in more recent years. The NIV that my wife has (I think the last copyright on her Bible was circa 1986), shows what Jimbob has shared about that verse. It would be interesting to see what other changes your NIV now has. Thanks for that - I wouldn't have picked on that tidbit if I wasn't informed.
David cries out to God not only to save him, but to do so quickly. This has a dual meaning: David acknowledged his need for forgiveness of sins ( Psalm 40:12), as well as the physical dangers he often faced (
Sin is against anything that is good and seperates us from God, All sin! Spiritual death accures when we sin against God.
Paul teaches we are dead to sin while we are alive in the body, of Christ.
We recognize our sin yet it cannot rule us, for We who live in the spirit are dead to sin. This is very important to know so that when we do sin, we have an advocate before God the Father. Satan job is to convict us of sin, and accuse us of it! This is what Jesus death on the Cross has given us, even power over death and sin! Repent and be Baptized
GiGi You should search ALL the revised versions of the Niv. The Niv I have does say what I posted. If its truly the correct translation then why would they revise them, and change the words themselves so many times? The Answer is: they are words of men, not the Word of God. Thank you GiGi
The Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost represent two but the same attributes of the comforter.
The Holy Ghost is that which guides and directs our mortal bodies in this world. It can appear in what we can see and hear. It actually becomes our navigator , seeing things as they really are in the spiritual world, that we live in! We can find ourselves in circumstances we no little about, but the Holy Spirit knows and thereby uses us to convict others of sin. Our character is the effect of the Holy Ghost on others.
The holy Spirit however, is what we read in the scriptures and it is the fruit, the soil we grow by. The Holy spirit is what convicts us of sin, teaching us to obey all things which it has taught us. They are the same , but different . One complements the other. You cannot have one without the other. Jesus said when the comforter comes He will teach you ALL things. Those in Christ will see and teach even as Christ taught. It is His Spirit that is living in us! This is truely a miracle, as the Anti Christ is becoming more prevalent the Holy Ghost has become even more so. This spiritual warfare is real, guiding and teaching us all the way. Prayer is the most powerful tool we have. We must use it at any given instant. Pray without ceasing!
Agreed! We should never take sin lightly. The price to propitiate was the blood and life of our savior. When believers take sin lightly and indulge without repentance, then the blood of Christ is trampled underfoot.
Hello jimbob, your quotation from the niv is incorrect. mine goes like this:
eccl 8:10 "then i saw the wisked buried who had come and gone from the place of holiness, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done. this also is vanity."
that is word for word from my niv and my kjv says the same thing, word for word.
Since you are asking for thoughts from anybody, I would like to share mine. This word generation in Matthew 24:34 has no association with years at all. The word generation means race or kind of people. GENEA is the word, and it means a race or kind of people.
Some theologians have said that the word "generation" means 40 years. Today, people attach different numbers of years to this word generation. Some say 70, some say more. But it doesn't have anything to do with a number of years.
There have been books written by people that have said that generation meant a certain number of years and that when Israel became a nation in 1948, they figured 40 years from there that the rapture was going to happen in 1988.
Well, 1988 passed and it didn't happen. But someone wrote a book on it and made millions of dollars. And then when it didn't happen, they wrote another one as to when the next one would be.
But GENEA has nothing to do with years. It is a race or kind of people.
Basically, what Jesus is saying here, is this kind or race of people, (the Jews), shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. They are His elect. They are His protected people, His chosen people, and He will fulfill His promises to them.
I used to believe that the word generation used in Matthew 24:34 meant a certain number of years. But now I understand it differently. There is no way I can come to any other conclusion on this word GENEA.
This word has no association to a number of years. It means a race or kind of people, specifically the Jewish race.
If we choose to change the word GENEA to mean a number of years, and we use 1948 as the beginning of that number, then we can know for sure the year that Jesus will return. Jesus says no one knows, nor can we know. There Bible gives no clues for us to determine the year or time of His return.
One thing we can know is that the Jewish race (GENEA) will not pass until those things be fulfilled.
What is the difference between true worship and false worship? Col 2: 16-20
One sort of church says, silence and solemnity is worship, and another, loud praise music and thanksgiving is worship.
Is worship not just holding a true reverence to God in our hearts? Would that consists as worship. No matter the form God chooses to use, through his children? John 4:23
Revelation 10:1-4 is the instruction concerning the prophecy of the thunders. And we have the description of the angel in Verses 1 through 3. Daniel 10:21 and Ezekiel 1:28 can be referenced.
Many of these characteristics and descriptions are descriptions of Christ from Chapter 1.
Many have thought, especially Jehovah's Witnesses, because it says a mighty angel, that Jesus is not God, and that He's just an angel.
But there's some differences here taken with this small scroll. What is this small scroll? It is the property deed to the earth.
In the first line it says, and I saw another mighty angel. The word another, and there's two different words in the Greek text for another, another of the same kind, or another of a different kind.
This is another of the same kind, making reference to Revelation 8:3, another mighty angel.
There are only two angels in the bible that are called mighty angels. Back in the book of Daniel Chapters 7 through 12, we have Gabriel, and we have Michael.
Michael is the archangel. He's the head angel and he usually has to do with the business of the nation Israel. And he's constantly at war with Satan concerning the things of Israel.
And Gabriel is a messenger. We especially see him at the announcement of the birth of Christ.
So this has to be one or the other, either Michael, or Gabriel, that has come down from heaven, clothed in a cloud and a rainbow about his head. And all of this tells us that he comes in the authority of Christ. He had a rainbow upon his head, his face as the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire, and he had this small book.
As for the thunders, I believe it is making reference to Gods voice coming down from heaven. Revelation 4:5 and Psalm 18:13 causes me to believe that these thunders are the voice of God.
But churches are full of crosses with the Lord Jesus on them. And there are decorations of the heavens.
How is this right?
This great Angel comes "robed in a cloud." A cloud is characteristic again of the nation Israel. Remember that when Israel was marching through the desert they were preceded by a cloud by day and followed by a pillar of fire by night. Actually the same cloud came to the rear at night and was lighted from some kind of fire within so that it appeared as a glowing, brilliant pillar. Later, when the tabernacle was completed, and later still when the temple was built, this same cloud came down and filled the Holy of Holies. It was called the Shekinah, the cloud of glory, an indication of the presence of God. So right from the start we have a clue that identifies this Angel as the Lord himself, Jesus, God the Son, appearing as the Angel of Jehovah.
Then we learn he has a rainbow above his head. We last saw a rainbow in Chapter 4 of this book, around the throne of God. The Angel's face, we are told, was "like the sun," and "his legs [actually, the word is feet] were like fiery pillars." That takes us back to Chapter 1 where John saw the vision of Jesus standing amid the churches. John describes his face as shining like the sun and his feet were like burnished, glowing bronze. Here, as John watched, he saw the Angel plant one foot upon the land and the other upon the sea, so that he stood astride the earth as a giant colossus. This symbolizes, of course, his ownership of the entire earth. Here is the rightful owner of earth, standing like a great colossus, claiming the earth for himself. The last clue is that he "roared like a lion." This goes back to the scene in Chapter 4 where we saw the slain Lamb who is also the Lion of the tribe of Judah. He roars in triumph over the earth. So once again we have indications that Israel is coming into view again as God's people whom he desires to use in a special way throughout the period of judgment of the last days and to continue on into the establishment of the kingdom after the return of Jesus.
Thank you for bringing this up. I have not read a post on this in the last year or so that I have been on here, so it is good to speak to ideas that are "floating" around in the secular world and among believers, too. We need to be wise about these things, but remain innocent in refusing to participate in them in any way.
In 1 Samuel 5-6 (KJV), God afflicts the Philistines with emerods in His anger over their taking the Ark of the Covenant from the Israelites. The word translated "emerods" in the King James Version comes from a root word literally meaning "to swell," and the Hebrew word translated "emerods" literally means "mound." This is basically all we know about emerods, but the context has led historians and Bible commentators to conclude that the plague of emerods was actually an occurrence of tumors, boils, or possibly hemorrhoids or "piles." Most translations of 1 Samuel 5:6 say the affliction was "tumors"; the ISV says "tumors of the groin"; and the Darby translation says "hemorrhoids."
I believe it's Saturday
how many Christians will be saved during the rapture ? Read Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
how do u turn ur life to Jesus? By acknowledging and confessing to the Lord that we are sinners in need of his salvation. Inviting him into our lives asking him to take over Nothing fancy nothing complicated
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
BUT KNOW THIS once you make that confession of repentance there's a great celebration in heaven
Jesus said, "I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents" ( Luke 15:10)
Praise the Lord I pray the Lord your strength and guidance that he bless you and bring people around you that are after his own heart. God bless
. . . AND as should our unwavering belief in the Son of God YHWH - Jesus Christ who resides in our lives/hearts and minds; ie. human tabernacle /sanctuary,;
ALLOW, the Holy Spirit (the cloud/fire), to LEAD US WHEN AND WHERE, ACCORDING to the will of the Father; while we are in trust and obedience of His voice within our own selves.
And STILL yet he KNOWS - - -
WHERE WE, the redeemed go and are going; IF, we are determining to allow the Holy Spirit to LEAD in each and every wilderness of each and every individual life! . . .
SO THEN: when ordained changes are upon us; say
vs.35."Rise up, LORD and let thine enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee flee before thee." and when it is over; say:
vs.36..."Return, O LORD unto the many thousands of Israel"
David cries out to God not only to save him, but to do so quickly. This has a dual meaning: David acknowledged his need for forgiveness of sins ( Psalm 40:12), as well as the physical dangers he often faced (
Paul teaches we are dead to sin while we are alive in the body, of Christ.
We recognize our sin yet it cannot rule us, for We who live in the spirit are dead to sin. This is very important to know so that when we do sin, we have an advocate before God the Father. Satan job is to convict us of sin, and accuse us of it! This is what Jesus death on the Cross has given us, even power over death and sin! Repent and be Baptized
The Holy Ghost is that which guides and directs our mortal bodies in this world. It can appear in what we can see and hear. It actually becomes our navigator , seeing things as they really are in the spiritual world, that we live in! We can find ourselves in circumstances we no little about, but the Holy Spirit knows and thereby uses us to convict others of sin. Our character is the effect of the Holy Ghost on others.
The holy Spirit however, is what we read in the scriptures and it is the fruit, the soil we grow by. The Holy spirit is what convicts us of sin, teaching us to obey all things which it has taught us. They are the same , but different . One complements the other. You cannot have one without the other. Jesus said when the comforter comes He will teach you ALL things. Those in Christ will see and teach even as Christ taught. It is His Spirit that is living in us! This is truely a miracle, as the Anti Christ is becoming more prevalent the Holy Ghost has become even more so. This spiritual warfare is real, guiding and teaching us all the way. Prayer is the most powerful tool we have. We must use it at any given instant. Pray without ceasing!
eccl 8:10 "then i saw the wisked buried who had come and gone from the place of holiness, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done. this also is vanity."
that is word for word from my niv and my kjv says the same thing, word for word.
Since you are asking for thoughts from anybody, I would like to share mine. This word generation in Matthew 24:34 has no association with years at all. The word generation means race or kind of people. GENEA is the word, and it means a race or kind of people.
Some theologians have said that the word "generation" means 40 years. Today, people attach different numbers of years to this word generation. Some say 70, some say more. But it doesn't have anything to do with a number of years.
There have been books written by people that have said that generation meant a certain number of years and that when Israel became a nation in 1948, they figured 40 years from there that the rapture was going to happen in 1988.
Well, 1988 passed and it didn't happen. But someone wrote a book on it and made millions of dollars. And then when it didn't happen, they wrote another one as to when the next one would be.
But GENEA has nothing to do with years. It is a race or kind of people.
Basically, what Jesus is saying here, is this kind or race of people, (the Jews), shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. They are His elect. They are His protected people, His chosen people, and He will fulfill His promises to them.
I used to believe that the word generation used in Matthew 24:34 meant a certain number of years. But now I understand it differently. There is no way I can come to any other conclusion on this word GENEA.
This word has no association to a number of years. It means a race or kind of people, specifically the Jewish race.
If we choose to change the word GENEA to mean a number of years, and we use 1948 as the beginning of that number, then we can know for sure the year that Jesus will return. Jesus says no one knows, nor can we know. There Bible gives no clues for us to determine the year or time of His return.
One thing we can know is that the Jewish race (GENEA) will not pass until those things be fulfilled.
One sort of church says, silence and solemnity is worship, and another, loud praise music and thanksgiving is worship.
Is worship not just holding a true reverence to God in our hearts? Would that consists as worship. No matter the form God chooses to use, through his children? John 4:23
Many of these characteristics and descriptions are descriptions of Christ from Chapter 1.
Many have thought, especially Jehovah's Witnesses, because it says a mighty angel, that Jesus is not God, and that He's just an angel.
But there's some differences here taken with this small scroll. What is this small scroll? It is the property deed to the earth.
In the first line it says, and I saw another mighty angel. The word another, and there's two different words in the Greek text for another, another of the same kind, or another of a different kind.
This is another of the same kind, making reference to Revelation 8:3, another mighty angel.
There are only two angels in the bible that are called mighty angels. Back in the book of Daniel Chapters 7 through 12, we have Gabriel, and we have Michael.
Michael is the archangel. He's the head angel and he usually has to do with the business of the nation Israel. And he's constantly at war with Satan concerning the things of Israel.
And Gabriel is a messenger. We especially see him at the announcement of the birth of Christ.
So this has to be one or the other, either Michael, or Gabriel, that has come down from heaven, clothed in a cloud and a rainbow about his head. And all of this tells us that he comes in the authority of Christ. He had a rainbow upon his head, his face as the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire, and he had this small book.
As for the thunders, I believe it is making reference to Gods voice coming down from heaven. Revelation 4:5 and Psalm 18:13 causes me to believe that these thunders are the voice of God.
Hope this helps!