Pierre1939 It would seem that you read over ever post without even trying to see the context.
First, Jesus died on the cross to give salvation and eternal life to all who Believe on Him.
Now ( Jn. 1:1-3,14) v1 Tells us "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS GOD".
v14 Tells us "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us".
The Word was God in flesh! ( Ps. 12:6-7) v6 Tells us "The words of the LORD are pure words". v7 "Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt (preserve) them from this generation for ever". (God's promise to preserve His Words for ever).
The Word was God in flesh! ( Mt. 4:4) We should live by ((every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God)).
The Word was God in flesh! ( Prov. 30:5-6) v5 ((Every Word)) of God is pure. v6 Add thou not unto ((his words)).
The Word was God in flesh! ( Jn. 14:23-24) v23 If a man love me he will keep ((my words)) v24 "and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me".
The Word was God in flesh! ( 1 Pet. 1:23-25) v23 "by ((the word of God)), ((which liveth)) and ((abideth for ever))". v25 But ((the word of the Lord endureth for ever)), And this is ((the word)) which ((by the gospel)) is preached unto you".
Can you provide the Scripture that shows you that Jesus is not the written Word?
How about this verse? ( 2 Tim. 3:16) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness". The word (scripture) is #1124; it means a document, to write, to describe.
How would we reproof doctrine without the pure preserved written Word?
How could we correct doctrine without the pure preserved written Word?
Please study this instead of just reading (over it) Pierre. Thank you.
David0921 thank you for your response. I really don't know what you mean by me using these verses as a counter to ( Rev. 22:18). I always looked at ( Rev. 22:18-19) as we should not add too or take away from (the words) of (the prophecy) of
(this book) the Bible.
I agree completely there are no contradictions in the Bible, that is in the KJB. I believe modern versions may have contradictions, modern versions are not Inspired by God.
In ( Acts. 2:17-21) v17 Tells us "and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams".
This is speaking of the last days, I believe we are living the last days time period now.
These verses have to speaking of this time period if we look at ( Acts. 2:20) We see "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come".
Then if we look in the book of Revelation for this same event, it happens in ( Rev. 6:12) with the opening of the sixth seal, "and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood".
I really don't see any other way to take those words any differently than they are written in ( Acts. 2:17) "and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams".
I would like to hear your understanding of this and also what you gather from the study you spoke of.
There is nothing like being in the Word of God today, It is Alive!
Jimbob Jesus was not the written word, Jesus is the living word....Jesus died to give us a new covenant which are living words Baby Christs....living beings the babes and sucklings he mentions which are an Israel of God....Spirits as that which is born of the spirit is spirit.....Which is the H.G. a living being....A kingdom child....Unless ya receive the Kingdom as a lil CHILD....Jim this N.C. at Calvary has a much deeper meaning then what you are understanding....Remember that great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....When a seed dies it multiplies remember what he told the Greeks that wanted to see him...Unless a seed dies it abides alone....But if it dies there will be much fruit many Christ as the stars of heaven......Jim his death is not about written words....But living words baby Christ....Thats y the woman is giving birth to the Children Rev 12 :5..Which is his multiplication via his seed the living words as my words are spirit and life...Jim the result of the Cross is multiplication and regeneration of Christ....Thats y he is saying blessed are them that follow me in the regeneration....When he sows his precious seed in humanity everybody is gona have a baby...Which is a baby Christ...The son of man mankinds fruit unto God....Jim we had written words in the old covenant....But the letter was a killer....But this N.C. is not about written words...But Living beings ...Gods to whom the word came it made them Gods...That what the babes and sucklings are baby Christ living beings...Remember Isaiah said he wd see his seed...Which is the H.G. his offspring....Thats y Isaiah refers to Jesus as everlasting father...He is gonna father many Children via his precious seed....But his Children are spirits as he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G.....Thats y he has to know us....The H.G. are the Children of Promise....Jim plz note the Kingdom does not come till the woman gives birth....A lil child is gona lead us.
We may not come to full understanding in terms of our individual lives; but God is faithful in all His promises which are most often expressed in covenants in the Bible. Again; it is in the context of corporate worship; being part of the armies of God; His Body etal. where our identity should be saught and expressed. My favorite saying on this is that we are going to be together for all eternity; so we should start getting along with one another now.
With our Resurrection; of course comes full restoration. We know that heaven itself has streets of gold and is adorned with all sorts of unimaginable gems on the doors and walls. We see in Isaiah how the animal kingdom is going to be restored ( Isaiah 11:6-9); how natural lives will be restored to where they were before the flood; and how we will literally rule over cities ( Luke 19:17 and surrounding verses). The fullness of the earth and harvest; as well as great material wealth also will occur starting in the Millennium. So in all these things his promises are "yea and amen" ( 2 Cor. 1:20). Those who were widows; orphans; martyrs and otherwise suffering in this life will come to a better country in the future ( Heb. 11:16).
There are also promises in terms of the fate of the wicked. Realizing what we have come from helps us now in our fallen state to humbly adore and worship God in a manner fitting for His saints. We must realize that we cannot return to Eden; in our natural state. We are crucified with Christ; therefore and part of a new and better life as Galatians 2:20 states. We are now in enemy territory; and nothing on our part can change that if we are indeed living a Godly life in Christ Jesus. We are aliens passing through; and the charms of this world should no longer bring comfort to our minds and tempt us to make a bargain in any way with the prince of this world to have a comfortable life. May we trust God in all things according to His will. ( Psalm 37:4
In my first post, I was referring to that which Jesus brought from heaven, is deity made flesh, His perfect life, His sacrifice for sins, His resurrection from death and ascension to heave. Jesus did that in His own divine power. No man can do that. That is my main point.
Perhaps this clarifies your question about my post.
Jesse, I can see your point on this. My uncle had such an experience when he had a heart attack and then was revived. He said he saw Jesus who was reaching His hand out to him. I know things like this occur to people at times, but not very often. I cannot vouch for any such experience of another person. They may be genuine or not. But I take the Lord's words seriously, therefore, as I said, we should beware of those who report such experiences. I did not say to dismiss such claims. We should test all things, especially anything to seems to contradict the Lord's words.
Fire, and hail, and flying swords, and many waters, that all fields may be full, and all rivers, with the abundance of great waters. And they shall break down the cities and walls, mountains and hills, trees of the wood, and grass of the meadows, and their corn.
And they shall go steadfastly unto Babylon , and make her afraid. They shall come to her, and besiege her, the star and all wrath shall they pour out upon her: then shall the dust and smoke go up unto the heaven, and all they that be about her shall bewail her. And they that remain under her shall do service unto them that have put her in fear."
Revelation 18:4-9
Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
"Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
Give back to her as she has done to others; pay her back double for what she has done; mix her a double portion in her own cup. As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury, give her the same measure of torment and grief.
In her heart she says,
'I sit as queen I am not a widow and will never see grief.'
Therefore, her plagues will come in one day-death and grief and famine-and she will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her."
Then the kings of the earth who committed immorality and lived in luxury with her will weep and wail at the sight of the smoke rising from the fire that consumes her. In fear of her torment, they will stand at a distance and cry out:
"Woe, woe to the great city, the mighty city of Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come."
Malachi 4:2
"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall."
"Behold a horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east: Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. Also the Carmanians (Iran) raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land (Afghanistan) of the Assyrians.
And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature (Taliban); and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. And from the land of the Assyrians shall the enemy besiege them, and consume some of them, and in their host shall be fear and dread, and strife among their kings.
Behold clouds from the east and from the north unto the south, and they are very horrible to look upon, full of wrath and storm. They shall smite one upon another, and they shall smite down a great multitude of stars upon the earth, even their own star; and blood shall be from the sword unto the horse's belly, and dung of men unto the camel's hough.
And there shall be great fearfulness and trembling upon earth: and they that see the wrath shall be afraid, and trembling shall come upon them. And then shall there come great storms from the south, and from the north, and another part from the west. And strong winds shall arise from the east, and shall open it; and the cloud which he raised up in wrath, and the star stirred to cause fear toward the east and west wind, shall be destroyed (detonated). The great and mighty clouds shall be puffed up full of wrath, and the star, that they may make all the earth afraid, and them that dwell therein; and they shall pour out over every high and eminent place a horrible star.
( Jn. 12:48) "((the word)) ((that I have spoken)), ((the same shall judge him)) in the last day".
If those pure, living Words of Jesus Christ were not written down for us in a book then how could God use those Words to judge these people righteously in the last day?
( Rev. 20:11-12) "and the books were opened" (What are these books that are opened that people are judged out of at the last day)?
These books are the Words that Jesus spoke, translated and written down in a book preserved for this generation and for ever. ( Ps. 12:6-7) also ( Prov. 30:5-6)
( 2 Pet. 1:19-21) These verses tell us how holy men of God were moved by the Holy Ghost to bring us the prophecy of the scripture, which is the preserved Word of God.
The 66 books in the KJB is that prophecy, those pure preserved Words of the LORD!
Pierre please don't just read over this, study it.
"Behold, victuals shall be so good cheap upon earth, that they shall think themselves to be in good case, and even then shall evils grow upon earth, sword, famine, and great confusion. For many of them that dwell upon earth shall perish of famine; and the other, that escape the hunger, shall the sword destroy."
2 Esdras 2:27-30
Be not weary: for when the day of trouble and heaviness cometh, others shall weep and be sorrowful, but thou shalt be merry and have abundance. The heathen shall envy thee, but they shall be able to do nothing against thee, saith the Lord. My hands shall cover thee, so that thy children shall not see hell. Be joyful, O thou mother, with thy children; for I will deliver thee," saith the Lord.
2 Esdras 13:23-24
"The one who brings the peril at that time will protect those who fall into peril, who have works and faith toward the Almighty. Understand therefore that those who are left are more blessed than those who have died."
Matthew 24:39-44
"So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come. But understand this: If the homeowner had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour you do not expect." Jesus
Jimbob remember Paul was persecuted many times....Did he not have the H.G. the gift of God....Paul was only a Saint b/c Christ lived in him....Not i that lives but Christ that lives in me....Talking bout context you need to realize that no body can be a Saint unless Christ lives in them which is our new innerman....The H.G.....Its only our new innerman that is the Saint that Child of Promise....The H.G.....The only pure word of God is Spirit and life....Not paper and ink where shall we go lord thou has the words of eternal life ..my words are spirit and life....Jim if the written words were the words of life....Then our lord died in vain and the cross was just foolishness....But your concordence will not teach you this....Its that book in the right hand of the father that has the words of life....That book that Jesus wrote with his own blood....That New Covenant....A concordence can not teach us Spiritual things....you need no man teach you the Anointing you have received from him will teach you all things....ABIDE IN HIM....Its only the Anointing that can teach us spiritual things....Which is the H.G....That which is born of the spirit is spirit John 3 :6....Thats the H.G. the Child of Promise....Our new innerman and the only Saint...Which answers to our new heart and new spirit....Which is our holy one the H.G. our new heart and new spirit and answers to our Saint the H.G. Our new spirit.
One is neva out of context when speaking of Christ the living word that new covenant that he gave us at calvary....The book in the fathers right hand.
I know this may see l'm like a fine point. But there is nothing more serious in our relationship with God as how we view the Bible, the Word of God. This has been true throughout history, but it is particularly important in our day.
We don't have to look very far in our day to find those that believe God does speak to us directly in dreams or visions or voices or tongues. They will quote verses in the Bible to explain that, but conveniently ignore Rev 22:18,19 or do not understand it correctly.
They will say, for example, that they heard a voice from God or spoke in a tongue that may have been an exact repetition of some verse or passage or teaching in the Bible and therefore that was not adding to the Bible. But they fail to recognize that as God "wrote" the Bible He often repeated verses or passages or teachings in scripture. And each time God did this He was ADDING to His Word, the Bible.
Now what I just said is very different from having a verse or a passage or a teaching from the Bible come to mind in a particular situation or because we may have been focusing on that in the Bible recently. That is a good thing. And God certainly works in the heart of every true believer to "will and to do of His good pleasure". But we will never hear an audible voice or see a vision or have a dream that is a direct communication from God, now that the Bible has been completed.
So if you're a born again Christian Jesus Christ gives you free will it's your choice what you want to do I've experienced people that take care of their parents at their houses and people that are in nursing homes that don't get visitors I know either way you go it's going to interfere with your life I guess you could do it 50/50 help them and have a good life thank you for responding
Of course it's not wrong for a parent to ask a child for help , whatever our relationship of the flesh is , we are all brothers and sisters in Christ . God blesses us and takes care of us sometimes through other people . He uses us all to bless and help each other through this life . First and foremost always ask God for help and then wait a while for the answer , maybe God has blessed your children financially so that they can be in a position to help you ? God will provide in His own way , all we need to do is ask Him and thank Him every day for the things that we do have and remember , if you are ever in a position to help others and they ask you , as long as you are able to you must help others , not necessarily with money but whatever you are able to , pray for them , give good practical Christian advice etc . God uses whomever he chooses to accomplish His purpose , sometimes you may need help , other times you may be the one doing the helping . Trust in His love for you and His ability to look after you always . May God bless you in all the ways that He knows that you need His blessings .
In the church; we see both an individual and corporate destiny in our future ruling and reigning with Christ beginning as a reality today. It is an understaning of how we are part of the Body of Christ; or the corporate worship which should be our first priority and that should forge our personal lives; rather than the other way around. Sadly; in today's church especially it seems that in this nation in particular it is the individual who recieves the attention. Hence; we may be proud of the accomplishments of the Pastor and expect him to fulfill the role of counselor; administration and other duties he is not called to perform. Finding balance of gifts; and leaving no man behind on the battlefield is quite often a problem today. Such is the example of Jethro the father in law of Moses. He was able to see how Moses was overwhelmed with the petty issues of the multitude; and gave wise advise to find those wise in understanding to parcel out that job; leaving Moses only with the difficult cases. That principle is seen with Solomon and the two prostitutes who disputed over a child; God gave him the wisdom to determine who the true mother was.
I see the same concept with the headship of a husband over a wife. If a Pastor feels he is too superior to be rebuked; or have others give wisdom or be free within proper parameters to minister as the Lord sees fit with gifts and callings then he is being remiss in his duties. A husband; likewise needs to realize that a wife may have understanding; the wife is called to be submissive and honor her husband but not called to sin to accomplish that if a husband is abusive or whatnot. If we realize that we all need each other; we may just see prayers and petitions answered more clearly. God wants us to be a peculiar people; called and chosen for His purposes to be a representative of the Kingdom of God for now and all eternity. Seeking His will first opens the door to answer prayers.
What we often don't account for is God creating something new in those who are not yet in the sheep fold. His steadfastness means that He can use someone else when we aren't diligent as Revelation 3:11 warns us. It also means that the random mess which is our lives with the world at large can be part of a larger picture that only He; the Master artist can conceive in its finished form. I say this realizing that the opposite being true. There are some who may appear to be steadfast in their walk who fall away at a later date. Therefore we shouldn't ever place our confidence in men; let God be true and every man a liar. (look it up my data is overspent so it is hard to find the corresponding verses on a search).
As for those who are mentioned in Hebrews 11; the next chapter makes it clear that they are looking for a new country; not something currently established on the earth. Such are many promises; not to be fulfilled in their visible manifestations at least until the future Kingdom rule and eternity. This serves as a fair warning to us with scriptures like Jesus had for the Pharisees that they already "had their reward." Therefore; we are not to lose the baby with the bathwater so to speak; God's promises can be held as true for financial purposes that ultimately fulfill His will. I have seen this in a recent example I mentioned before of a missinary looking to procure funds for building a hospital. This means; of course we should be proactive ourselves as being a blessing for someone else; especially if we are looking for the same thing ourselves. God wants us to be a cheerful giver; and what we do for others is reflected on what the Lord will perform in our lives. That is not some esoteric statement or karma it is God's principle. Casting our bread on the waters; therefore brings it back sevenfold.
Looking to His promises we of course should adhere to Psalm 51 and have a contrite and humble spirit as David did.
Giving us what we want rather than what we need is something God often performs. We of course can be ignorant of that fact not realizing that in what He provides there is often an answer to our requests in a hidden form.
Perhaps the best illustration that demonstrates that fact is with the early church and ensuing persecution; spearheaded by Paul. God indeed showed him how much he must suffer for His name's sake and perhaps that was necessary to convince those whose lives were torn apart from his previous actions that he was the real deal. Imagine for a moment what the early church would be like without Paul and his writings of most of the Epistles; 4 major evangelical pilgrimages and the like. As to Paul himself; he probably didn't plan out these expeditions with imprisonment on his mind as the method God would use to accomplish this; and the early church didn't comprehend how the persecutions and martyrdom would expand the church and strengthen it rather than destroy it ocompletely.
Joseph didn't likewise with his dreams of grandeur figure that being sold into slavery by his brothers; falsely accused and placed in jail and forgotten for years would be how God would forge his plan for his destiny. The same could be said for the struggles of Moses in the wilderness; Abraham and Isaac and any other who were taught from the Lord and disciplined accordingly.
I'm sure we in our own understanding wouldn't understand how Rahab the Harlot; Bathsheeba and others would be part of the lineage of Christ and be deemed faithful saints. God will even use our sin to accomplish His purposes; but of course it is never an excuse or license to sin.
Christ is; as I have said before Lord; Savior and Master. Being a servant sounds perhaps more acceptable than being a slave but when we are dead to ourselves it is an appropriate word to use. While God can work in our sin; walking Godly lives we begin to fathom the riches of fulfilled promises.
Principles from scripture can essentially be as a prophetic utterance in a general sense. We can be certain to reap what we sow; and the concept of blessings and curses in Deuteronomy; for instance are pretty accurate as to the outcome when one either obeys or disobeys the commandments of God.
As to the eventual outcome and eternal destinies of individuals; and the method and timing of God's response to our actions of course is beyond our scope of understanding. We need also to separate what was Old Testament ceremonial law; as well as the day of the Sabbath as to what is now our standard; that the Son of Man is now Lord of the Sabbath. The general admonitions as to wisdom or lack thereof certainly is relevant to every man alive.
If there is a Word of Knowledge; as I have stated previously it is likely not to be something appealing to the crowds. YOU ARE THE MAN isn't exactly what many want to hear (especially leadership in churches) but if there were more of that it would help to bring back the fear of God which is so often missing today in what is supposed to be the house of God where His Spirit is present. Exhortation; rebuke and the like with the principle that "open rebuke is better than hidden love" is a lost art today it seems; can't remember the last time I saw it applied.
The reason for my preceding paragraphs therefore; is to show that the promises of God don't have any shortcuts; as all good gifts from God must be brought when deemed ready in our lives. Jesus states; for instance that if we can't be trusted with earthly treasure then how can we with heavenly? Today; it seems wisdom is also in large part missing; and that is apparent particularly with those who are seeking to take on leadership roles in churches. Elders should ensure that the sheep are fed and that wolves don't enter in. If we are given what we want such as Saul as a King it is not the way we should want to see our petitions answered.
What we are to do is try to understand what Christ is doing when he is "ever interceding" for us. Only if our words are in accordance to His will we see any answered prayer; hence all "declared" blessings are basically he opposite (a curse) if we persist in telling God what He should do if motivated by our own sinful flesh.
Exodus shows us that the magicians realized when God turned dust into gnats that it was the finger of God. To create anything out of nothing is something only God can do so that is probably why something so seemingly insignificant is performed in that sense.
Generally; of course God did that sort of thing during the original creation in Genesis. He is going to create a new heavens and earth by dissolving the current elements as Peter indicates and then creating everything as it once was untainted by sin. The same could be said for our Resurrection bodies.
I would cross reference verses but my search engine is messed up; that is usually much quicker for me than looking into a Bible and its concordance. Hope that answers the basic questions.
Hi John. That's a good question John & it would be very difficult for a parent to make such needs known to others, particularly to close family members. Even matters of major health problems & other difficulties, parents usually would like to shield their children from such concerns. But what I believe the issue here is: if the family unit is strong & close, it wouldn't be difficult for a child not to quickly perceive that their parents are struggling. With mounting bills or disconnected utilities, lack of food or parents going without for the child's sake, or the many other areas in day-to-day living of trying to get on top of it all, children will soon notice & if a little mature, might even ask why there is so much sorrow & hardship in the house. But if the child is working & living away from the family home, even with his own ever-increasing expenses, if he has been brought up well & maintains a sensitive caring attitude to his parents, will endeavor to discuss the matters & find resolution.
So, I don't think that it's "wrong for a parent to ask a child for help", but I feel that even before that stage, the mature child should be very mindful of the parents' needs & discuss it with his family & seek ways to help them. Often when families live together, as much as that may be inconvenient for lack of space & privacy, costs can be drastically reduced & a better distribution of income & expenses made. But I know that we don't live in such a world here (unlike some of the very poor in Asia & Africa), & independence is always our preferred way - yet when family members are struggling, whether financially, physically or emotionally, nothing beats a close family unit prepared to put one another first before themselves. Some here may have other thoughts on this, especially if they have experienced such hardships in their lives: to give you some practical advice.
Hi Cheryl1655. Just to add to these other good comments, in reference to "...even the Son of man which is in heaven", I agree that it should be left to how one chooses to read & understand that statement in John 3:13. To help me with this, I consider John 3:11, 12 as well: "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?"
I note that Jesus is stating, "WE speak...WE have seen...OUR witness". Who are the WE/OUR here? Surely it can't be anyone on Earth, as none present with Jesus or even seen in the Old Testament have ever spoken of or seen those mysterious things of Heaven. But 'in very Truth', Jesus states that there is a Divine Presence both in Heaven & now on Earth that has made such mysteries & Truths known to man.
So when Jesus states, "...even the Son of Man which is in heaven", the already perplexed Nicodemus is hit with an almost uncomprehendable Character of God & this Man before him stating that He was in Heaven, now here as a Son of man, who still has a Presence in Heaven. Even though there is insufficient Scripture to state precisely what Jesus was trying to indicate to Nicodemus, it seems that we won't be far from the Truth, that Jesus by coming to Earth, laid aside His Glory (see John 17:5; Philippians 2:7; Hebrews 2:9), so that He could take on flesh & live as a Man. But where did He leave His Glory, that He take on a position beneath God's Holy angels? I feel that this Divine Person of the Godhead left that part of His Majesty in Heaven, while He walked this Earth as the humble Servant of men. To Nicodemus this would have been inconceivable, but Jesus' always held His Presence in Heaven as on Earth - His contact with His Father & His angels were separated only by position, not by relationship & possession. Likewise, our relationship to the Godhead must also be.
First, Jesus died on the cross to give salvation and eternal life to all who Believe on Him.
Now ( Jn. 1:1-3,14) v1 Tells us "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS GOD".
v14 Tells us "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us".
The Word was God in flesh! ( Ps. 12:6-7) v6 Tells us "The words of the LORD are pure words". v7 "Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt (preserve) them from this generation for ever". (God's promise to preserve His Words for ever).
The Word was God in flesh! ( Mt. 4:4) We should live by ((every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God)).
The Word was God in flesh! ( Prov. 30:5-6) v5 ((Every Word)) of God is pure. v6 Add thou not unto ((his words)).
The Word was God in flesh! ( Jn. 14:23-24) v23 If a man love me he will keep ((my words)) v24 "and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me".
The Word was God in flesh! ( 1 Pet. 1:23-25) v23 "by ((the word of God)), ((which liveth)) and ((abideth for ever))". v25 But ((the word of the Lord endureth for ever)), And this is ((the word)) which ((by the gospel)) is preached unto you".
Can you provide the Scripture that shows you that Jesus is not the written Word?
How about this verse? ( 2 Tim. 3:16) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness". The word (scripture) is #1124; it means a document, to write, to describe.
How would we reproof doctrine without the pure preserved written Word?
How could we correct doctrine without the pure preserved written Word?
Please study this instead of just reading (over it) Pierre. Thank you.
Blessings.
Did you mean to send this to me?
(this book) the Bible.
I agree completely there are no contradictions in the Bible, that is in the KJB. I believe modern versions may have contradictions, modern versions are not Inspired by God.
In ( Acts. 2:17-21) v17 Tells us "and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams".
This is speaking of the last days, I believe we are living the last days time period now.
These verses have to speaking of this time period if we look at ( Acts. 2:20) We see "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come".
Then if we look in the book of Revelation for this same event, it happens in ( Rev. 6:12) with the opening of the sixth seal, "and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood".
I really don't see any other way to take those words any differently than they are written in ( Acts. 2:17) "and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams".
I would like to hear your understanding of this and also what you gather from the study you spoke of.
There is nothing like being in the Word of God today, It is Alive!
Thank you again David.
God Bless.
We may not come to full understanding in terms of our individual lives; but God is faithful in all His promises which are most often expressed in covenants in the Bible. Again; it is in the context of corporate worship; being part of the armies of God; His Body etal. where our identity should be saught and expressed. My favorite saying on this is that we are going to be together for all eternity; so we should start getting along with one another now.
With our Resurrection; of course comes full restoration. We know that heaven itself has streets of gold and is adorned with all sorts of unimaginable gems on the doors and walls. We see in Isaiah how the animal kingdom is going to be restored ( Isaiah 11:6-9); how natural lives will be restored to where they were before the flood; and how we will literally rule over cities ( Luke 19:17 and surrounding verses). The fullness of the earth and harvest; as well as great material wealth also will occur starting in the Millennium. So in all these things his promises are "yea and amen" ( 2 Cor. 1:20). Those who were widows; orphans; martyrs and otherwise suffering in this life will come to a better country in the future ( Heb. 11:16).
There are also promises in terms of the fate of the wicked. Realizing what we have come from helps us now in our fallen state to humbly adore and worship God in a manner fitting for His saints. We must realize that we cannot return to Eden; in our natural state. We are crucified with Christ; therefore and part of a new and better life as Galatians 2:20 states. We are now in enemy territory; and nothing on our part can change that if we are indeed living a Godly life in Christ Jesus. We are aliens passing through; and the charms of this world should no longer bring comfort to our minds and tempt us to make a bargain in any way with the prince of this world to have a comfortable life. May we trust God in all things according to His will. ( Psalm 37:4
In my first post, I was referring to that which Jesus brought from heaven, is deity made flesh, His perfect life, His sacrifice for sins, His resurrection from death and ascension to heave. Jesus did that in His own divine power. No man can do that. That is my main point.
Perhaps this clarifies your question about my post.
Fire, and hail, and flying swords, and many waters, that all fields may be full, and all rivers, with the abundance of great waters. And they shall break down the cities and walls, mountains and hills, trees of the wood, and grass of the meadows, and their corn.
And they shall go steadfastly unto Babylon , and make her afraid. They shall come to her, and besiege her, the star and all wrath shall they pour out upon her: then shall the dust and smoke go up unto the heaven, and all they that be about her shall bewail her. And they that remain under her shall do service unto them that have put her in fear."
Revelation 18:4-9
Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
"Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
Give back to her as she has done to others; pay her back double for what she has done; mix her a double portion in her own cup. As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury, give her the same measure of torment and grief.
In her heart she says,
'I sit as queen I am not a widow and will never see grief.'
Therefore, her plagues will come in one day-death and grief and famine-and she will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her."
Then the kings of the earth who committed immorality and lived in luxury with her will weep and wail at the sight of the smoke rising from the fire that consumes her. In fear of her torment, they will stand at a distance and cry out:
"Woe, woe to the great city, the mighty city of Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come."
Malachi 4:2
"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall."
Sun is correct.
(1/2)
"Behold a horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east: Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. Also the Carmanians (Iran) raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land (Afghanistan) of the Assyrians.
And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature (Taliban); and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. And from the land of the Assyrians shall the enemy besiege them, and consume some of them, and in their host shall be fear and dread, and strife among their kings.
Behold clouds from the east and from the north unto the south, and they are very horrible to look upon, full of wrath and storm. They shall smite one upon another, and they shall smite down a great multitude of stars upon the earth, even their own star; and blood shall be from the sword unto the horse's belly, and dung of men unto the camel's hough.
And there shall be great fearfulness and trembling upon earth: and they that see the wrath shall be afraid, and trembling shall come upon them. And then shall there come great storms from the south, and from the north, and another part from the west. And strong winds shall arise from the east, and shall open it; and the cloud which he raised up in wrath, and the star stirred to cause fear toward the east and west wind, shall be destroyed (detonated). The great and mighty clouds shall be puffed up full of wrath, and the star, that they may make all the earth afraid, and them that dwell therein; and they shall pour out over every high and eminent place a horrible star.
You do not believe that some of Gods children have died and seen heaven or some have even spoke with Jesus and returned?
To minister and share the love of god they experienced and their life changing testimony .
To bear witness to our savior Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father?
May gods grace and peace be upon you.
Love you all.
You have SUN. It should be Son.
( Jn. 12:48) "((the word)) ((that I have spoken)), ((the same shall judge him)) in the last day".
If those pure, living Words of Jesus Christ were not written down for us in a book then how could God use those Words to judge these people righteously in the last day?
( Rev. 20:11-12) "and the books were opened" (What are these books that are opened that people are judged out of at the last day)?
These books are the Words that Jesus spoke, translated and written down in a book preserved for this generation and for ever. ( Ps. 12:6-7) also ( Prov. 30:5-6)
( 2 Pet. 1:19-21) These verses tell us how holy men of God were moved by the Holy Ghost to bring us the prophecy of the scripture, which is the preserved Word of God.
The 66 books in the KJB is that prophecy, those pure preserved Words of the LORD!
Pierre please don't just read over this, study it.
Truth matters.
"Behold, victuals shall be so good cheap upon earth, that they shall think themselves to be in good case, and even then shall evils grow upon earth, sword, famine, and great confusion. For many of them that dwell upon earth shall perish of famine; and the other, that escape the hunger, shall the sword destroy."
2 Esdras 2:27-30
Be not weary: for when the day of trouble and heaviness cometh, others shall weep and be sorrowful, but thou shalt be merry and have abundance. The heathen shall envy thee, but they shall be able to do nothing against thee, saith the Lord. My hands shall cover thee, so that thy children shall not see hell. Be joyful, O thou mother, with thy children; for I will deliver thee," saith the Lord.
2 Esdras 13:23-24
"The one who brings the peril at that time will protect those who fall into peril, who have works and faith toward the Almighty. Understand therefore that those who are left are more blessed than those who have died."
Matthew 24:39-44
"So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come. But understand this: If the homeowner had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour you do not expect." Jesus
Agreed,
Helping our parents in their time of need is one way of honoring them as the commandment says.
One is neva out of context when speaking of Christ the living word that new covenant that he gave us at calvary....The book in the fathers right hand.
I know this may see l'm like a fine point. But there is nothing more serious in our relationship with God as how we view the Bible, the Word of God. This has been true throughout history, but it is particularly important in our day.
We don't have to look very far in our day to find those that believe God does speak to us directly in dreams or visions or voices or tongues. They will quote verses in the Bible to explain that, but conveniently ignore Rev 22:18,19 or do not understand it correctly.
They will say, for example, that they heard a voice from God or spoke in a tongue that may have been an exact repetition of some verse or passage or teaching in the Bible and therefore that was not adding to the Bible. But they fail to recognize that as God "wrote" the Bible He often repeated verses or passages or teachings in scripture. And each time God did this He was ADDING to His Word, the Bible.
Now what I just said is very different from having a verse or a passage or a teaching from the Bible come to mind in a particular situation or because we may have been focusing on that in the Bible recently. That is a good thing. And God certainly works in the heart of every true believer to "will and to do of His good pleasure". But we will never hear an audible voice or see a vision or have a dream that is a direct communication from God, now that the Bible has been completed.
I suspect that is your view as well.
In the church; we see both an individual and corporate destiny in our future ruling and reigning with Christ beginning as a reality today. It is an understaning of how we are part of the Body of Christ; or the corporate worship which should be our first priority and that should forge our personal lives; rather than the other way around. Sadly; in today's church especially it seems that in this nation in particular it is the individual who recieves the attention. Hence; we may be proud of the accomplishments of the Pastor and expect him to fulfill the role of counselor; administration and other duties he is not called to perform. Finding balance of gifts; and leaving no man behind on the battlefield is quite often a problem today. Such is the example of Jethro the father in law of Moses. He was able to see how Moses was overwhelmed with the petty issues of the multitude; and gave wise advise to find those wise in understanding to parcel out that job; leaving Moses only with the difficult cases. That principle is seen with Solomon and the two prostitutes who disputed over a child; God gave him the wisdom to determine who the true mother was.
I see the same concept with the headship of a husband over a wife. If a Pastor feels he is too superior to be rebuked; or have others give wisdom or be free within proper parameters to minister as the Lord sees fit with gifts and callings then he is being remiss in his duties. A husband; likewise needs to realize that a wife may have understanding; the wife is called to be submissive and honor her husband but not called to sin to accomplish that if a husband is abusive or whatnot. If we realize that we all need each other; we may just see prayers and petitions answered more clearly. God wants us to be a peculiar people; called and chosen for His purposes to be a representative of the Kingdom of God for now and all eternity. Seeking His will first opens the door to answer prayers.
What we often don't account for is God creating something new in those who are not yet in the sheep fold. His steadfastness means that He can use someone else when we aren't diligent as Revelation 3:11 warns us. It also means that the random mess which is our lives with the world at large can be part of a larger picture that only He; the Master artist can conceive in its finished form. I say this realizing that the opposite being true. There are some who may appear to be steadfast in their walk who fall away at a later date. Therefore we shouldn't ever place our confidence in men; let God be true and every man a liar. (look it up my data is overspent so it is hard to find the corresponding verses on a search).
As for those who are mentioned in Hebrews 11; the next chapter makes it clear that they are looking for a new country; not something currently established on the earth. Such are many promises; not to be fulfilled in their visible manifestations at least until the future Kingdom rule and eternity. This serves as a fair warning to us with scriptures like Jesus had for the Pharisees that they already "had their reward." Therefore; we are not to lose the baby with the bathwater so to speak; God's promises can be held as true for financial purposes that ultimately fulfill His will. I have seen this in a recent example I mentioned before of a missinary looking to procure funds for building a hospital. This means; of course we should be proactive ourselves as being a blessing for someone else; especially if we are looking for the same thing ourselves. God wants us to be a cheerful giver; and what we do for others is reflected on what the Lord will perform in our lives. That is not some esoteric statement or karma it is God's principle. Casting our bread on the waters; therefore brings it back sevenfold.
Looking to His promises we of course should adhere to Psalm 51 and have a contrite and humble spirit as David did.
Giving us what we want rather than what we need is something God often performs. We of course can be ignorant of that fact not realizing that in what He provides there is often an answer to our requests in a hidden form.
Perhaps the best illustration that demonstrates that fact is with the early church and ensuing persecution; spearheaded by Paul. God indeed showed him how much he must suffer for His name's sake and perhaps that was necessary to convince those whose lives were torn apart from his previous actions that he was the real deal. Imagine for a moment what the early church would be like without Paul and his writings of most of the Epistles; 4 major evangelical pilgrimages and the like. As to Paul himself; he probably didn't plan out these expeditions with imprisonment on his mind as the method God would use to accomplish this; and the early church didn't comprehend how the persecutions and martyrdom would expand the church and strengthen it rather than destroy it ocompletely.
Joseph didn't likewise with his dreams of grandeur figure that being sold into slavery by his brothers; falsely accused and placed in jail and forgotten for years would be how God would forge his plan for his destiny. The same could be said for the struggles of Moses in the wilderness; Abraham and Isaac and any other who were taught from the Lord and disciplined accordingly.
I'm sure we in our own understanding wouldn't understand how Rahab the Harlot; Bathsheeba and others would be part of the lineage of Christ and be deemed faithful saints. God will even use our sin to accomplish His purposes; but of course it is never an excuse or license to sin.
Christ is; as I have said before Lord; Savior and Master. Being a servant sounds perhaps more acceptable than being a slave but when we are dead to ourselves it is an appropriate word to use. While God can work in our sin; walking Godly lives we begin to fathom the riches of fulfilled promises.
Principles from scripture can essentially be as a prophetic utterance in a general sense. We can be certain to reap what we sow; and the concept of blessings and curses in Deuteronomy; for instance are pretty accurate as to the outcome when one either obeys or disobeys the commandments of God.
As to the eventual outcome and eternal destinies of individuals; and the method and timing of God's response to our actions of course is beyond our scope of understanding. We need also to separate what was Old Testament ceremonial law; as well as the day of the Sabbath as to what is now our standard; that the Son of Man is now Lord of the Sabbath. The general admonitions as to wisdom or lack thereof certainly is relevant to every man alive.
If there is a Word of Knowledge; as I have stated previously it is likely not to be something appealing to the crowds. YOU ARE THE MAN isn't exactly what many want to hear (especially leadership in churches) but if there were more of that it would help to bring back the fear of God which is so often missing today in what is supposed to be the house of God where His Spirit is present. Exhortation; rebuke and the like with the principle that "open rebuke is better than hidden love" is a lost art today it seems; can't remember the last time I saw it applied.
The reason for my preceding paragraphs therefore; is to show that the promises of God don't have any shortcuts; as all good gifts from God must be brought when deemed ready in our lives. Jesus states; for instance that if we can't be trusted with earthly treasure then how can we with heavenly? Today; it seems wisdom is also in large part missing; and that is apparent particularly with those who are seeking to take on leadership roles in churches. Elders should ensure that the sheep are fed and that wolves don't enter in. If we are given what we want such as Saul as a King it is not the way we should want to see our petitions answered.
What we are to do is try to understand what Christ is doing when he is "ever interceding" for us. Only if our words are in accordance to His will we see any answered prayer; hence all "declared" blessings are basically he opposite (a curse) if we persist in telling God what He should do if motivated by our own sinful flesh.
Exodus shows us that the magicians realized when God turned dust into gnats that it was the finger of God. To create anything out of nothing is something only God can do so that is probably why something so seemingly insignificant is performed in that sense.
Generally; of course God did that sort of thing during the original creation in Genesis. He is going to create a new heavens and earth by dissolving the current elements as Peter indicates and then creating everything as it once was untainted by sin. The same could be said for our Resurrection bodies.
I would cross reference verses but my search engine is messed up; that is usually much quicker for me than looking into a Bible and its concordance. Hope that answers the basic questions.
Agape; Rich P
So, I don't think that it's "wrong for a parent to ask a child for help", but I feel that even before that stage, the mature child should be very mindful of the parents' needs & discuss it with his family & seek ways to help them. Often when families live together, as much as that may be inconvenient for lack of space & privacy, costs can be drastically reduced & a better distribution of income & expenses made. But I know that we don't live in such a world here (unlike some of the very poor in Asia & Africa), & independence is always our preferred way - yet when family members are struggling, whether financially, physically or emotionally, nothing beats a close family unit prepared to put one another first before themselves. Some here may have other thoughts on this, especially if they have experienced such hardships in their lives: to give you some practical advice.
I note that Jesus is stating, "WE speak...WE have seen...OUR witness". Who are the WE/OUR here? Surely it can't be anyone on Earth, as none present with Jesus or even seen in the Old Testament have ever spoken of or seen those mysterious things of Heaven. But 'in very Truth', Jesus states that there is a Divine Presence both in Heaven & now on Earth that has made such mysteries & Truths known to man.
So when Jesus states, "...even the Son of Man which is in heaven", the already perplexed Nicodemus is hit with an almost uncomprehendable Character of God & this Man before him stating that He was in Heaven, now here as a Son of man, who still has a Presence in Heaven. Even though there is insufficient Scripture to state precisely what Jesus was trying to indicate to Nicodemus, it seems that we won't be far from the Truth, that Jesus by coming to Earth, laid aside His Glory (see John 17:5; Philippians 2:7; Hebrews 2:9), so that He could take on flesh & live as a Man. But where did He leave His Glory, that He take on a position beneath God's Holy angels? I feel that this Divine Person of the Godhead left that part of His Majesty in Heaven, while He walked this Earth as the humble Servant of men. To Nicodemus this would have been inconceivable, but Jesus' always held His Presence in Heaven as on Earth - His contact with His Father & His angels were separated only by position, not by relationship & possession. Likewise, our relationship to the Godhead must also be.
The KJB ( 1 Samuel. 17:50-51) Tells us David slew the champion Philistine, whose name was Goliath.
( 1 Samuel. 17:4) Tells us the champion Philistines name was Goliath.
David killed Goliath!
Now a look at what is considered to be (sound doctrine)?
( 2 Tim. 4:3-4) The word (sound) is #5198; it means to be uncorrupt, (true in doctrine)
The word (doctrine) is #1319; it means instruction (the function or the information) doctrine, learning, teaching.
((sound doctrine)) is the instruction we get from the Bible we learn from or teach from. (sound doctrine) is uncorrupt, it is ((TRUE IN DOCTRINE))
Now we look at a few different versions to see which are (TRUE IN DOCTRINE)
1st the KJB ( 2 Samuel. 21:19) It tells us "Elhanan the son of Jaareorigim, a Bethlehemite, ((slew the brother)) of Goliath the Gittite.
Here's the same verse in the several different versions!
2nd Nasb says "Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
3rd LSB says "Elhanan struck down Goliath the Gittite" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
4th Amplified Bible says "Elhanan killed Goliath the Gittite" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
5th Christian Standard Bible says "Elhanan killed Goliath the Gittite" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
6th ASV says "Elhanan slew Goliath the Gittite" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
7th Good News Translation says "Elhanan killed Goliath from Gath" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
8th New American Bible says "Elhanan killed Goliath from Gath" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
9th Niv says "Elhanan killed Goliath the Gittite" CORRUPT. Not sound doctrine!
Here we have 8 different versions that say Elhanan killed Goliath, Did Elhanan kill Goliath or did David kill Goliath?
If they are not TRUE IN DOCTRINE that makes all of them CORRUPT!
( Jer. 23:36) The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
All modern versions have changed the Words of the living God which is another verse showing them to be corrupt.