John chapter 17 verse 16 . Jesus says this about his disciples , can we really say this about ourselves ? Let's look at ourselves honestly . Just how much are we like everyone else in this world ? How many of the things that atheists are focused on or that people of other beliefs are interested in and talking about , are we also getting ourselves embroiled in ? If we are truly not of this world then those that are of this world should be able to recognise that we ( Christians ) are different . We are not like them , even if they disdain us for our non conformity we shouldn't be upset about that , rather be glad that we are so unlike them that they've actually noticed , that's a good thing ! Our light ( which is Christ ) should be shinning bright and dazzling those around us .
Thanks GiGi for this further submission on "Will all be saved?". That was very interesting to read, even as you shared from the writings of those men. There was much I could agree with, and of course, some things that could be debated.
But if I was to narrow down onto one particular 'stand-out' for me from those ten parts, it would be Romans 9:14-23 (as given). Whereas I would have actually referenced the whole subject matter given in Romans 9:1-24: where the apostle was speaking about Israel, examples from their history, God's Intervention, an imagined question proffered, & finally to Gentiles who would also be recipients of God's Mercy & riches. Blessings.
"There is not a relationship between two people, but between three, you, me, and the Lord. I HAVE TO LINE UP WITH THE LORD FOR A RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU!"
The thrust of what Paul is getting across in 1 Timothy 2:4 is that we should never forsake praying for someone because they belong to a certain class, group, or culture. No "tribe" is too far from God that He cannot save them, so pray with all diligence for God to move His sovereign hand and save."
And finally, I include this excerpt from John Piper:
If "all people" refers to every person without exception, then universalism is our conclusion only if God's desire to save is absolute. But the Lord desires one thing more than the salvation of all - His glory ( Isa. 48:11). In one sense, God can truly want all who have ever lived to be saved; however, this desire always defers to His will to glorify Himself, the will in view when the Bible says His will is always done. The Lord is glorified when sin is punished in hell, and so God's supreme desire is met even when people are not redeemed.
At this point, I will take this up in a day or two to give time for readers to consider this question for themselves. Then I will continue with how I understand this topic.
The subtext of the entire book of Romans is the division that is occurring in the church between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians. It takes a vision from heaven with God coercing Peter to be okay with entering into a Gentile household and sharing the gospel with Cornelius in Acts 10 (see also Acts 6; Gal 3:28; Eph 2:11-22).
For centuries and centuries, Jewish people were told that their people, children of Abraham, were God's chosen people. And if anyone wanted to enter into a saving relationship with Yahweh, they had to first become Jewish. Further, there was a deep animosity that ran between Jews and Gentiles in the first century. It would have been similar to the way a Southerner would have viewed a Northerner shortly after the Civil War. There was deep distrust and anger, not to mention a wide cultural distance between the two groups.
Now, after the death, burial, and resurrection of the Messiah, Jesus, it didn't matter whether you were Jewish, Greek, Scythian, or slave ( Col 3:11). All that mattered was your relationship with Jesus, and Jesus was open and available to any and all cultures, ethnicities, and tribes.
Therefore, when Paul is explaining that God desires "all people" to be saved he is not referring to all people without exception (every individual), but to all people without distinction (every kind) to be saved. Don't think that you shouldn't pray for those emperors or governors ( 1 Tim 2:2) just because they are Roman or Greek-pray for all people; God desires people from every tribe, tongue, and nation to be gathered around His throne ( Rev 5:9-10).
In Conclusion
I personally find the "all persons without distinction" argument to be more satisfactory than the "two wills of God" interpretation in 1 Timothy 2:4. I do affirm classic doctrine of the two wills of God, I just don't think that is the main point Paul is trying to make here in 1 Timothy.
"The difference between Calvinists and Arminians lies not in whether there are two wills in God, but in what they say this higher commitment is. What does God will more than saving all?
The answer given by Arminians is that human self-determination and the possible resulting love relationship with God are more valuable than saving all people by sovereign, efficacious grace. The answer given by Calvinists is that the greater value is the manifestation of the full range of God's glory in wrath and mercy ( Romans 9:22-23) and the humbling of man so that he enjoys giving all credit to God for his salvation ( 1 Corinthians 1:29)."
Therefore this perspective would say that God desires all to be saved but this "desire" is fundamentally different than what God ultimately determines or decrees to happen.
(2) All Persons Without Distinction. This perspective views that when Paul explains that God desires "all people" to be saved he is not referring to all persons without exception, but to all persons without distinction. In other words, Paul is not referring to God's desire for all individuals who have ever lived, but to all kinds of people. God is not only the savior of Jewish people, but of non-Jewish people as well.
After explaining that we should pray for "all people" because God desires "all people" to be saved because Jesus gave himself as a ransom for "all people," Paul concludes with this: "For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth," 1 Tim 2:7. Why does Paul need to insert that little parenthetical oath (I swear I'm not making this up!). Likely because so few of the early Christians believed that people who were not Jewish could actually be saved.
In Acts 15, there has to be an entire church council held to figure out whether or not its okay for Gentiles to become Christians.
Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.
1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter
1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27
God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).
God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:
"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.
Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.
1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter
1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27
God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).
God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:
"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.
There are two basic Reformed interpretations of this verse (and other verses similar to it):
(1) The Two Wills of God. This is what is sometimes referred to as God's "antecedent" and "consequent" will (Thomas Aquinas) or God's "secret" and "revealed" will (Jonathan Edwards). A contemporary proponent of this perspective would be John Piper who refers to the "will of decree" and "will of command." This interpretation would see a difference between what God desires to happen and what He ultimately decrees to happen. God desires all to be saved, but He does not ultimately decree that all are saved. John Piper explains, "God wills not to save all, even though he is willing to save all." A helpful illustration would be Ezekiel 18:23, "Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" God takes no delight in the death of the wicked-He does not enjoy it. And yet, the wicked still perish. God desires something (the wicked not perishing) that does not ultimately happen. Why would God desire something but not get it? Why would He desire to save all, but not allow all to be saved? Universalists reply, "If God desires all to be saved then all must be saved." Open Theists reply, "God may desire all to be saved, yet all aren't saved because God can't save all." Arminians and Calvinists (Reformed) repudiate both of those replies.
Both Calvinists and Arminians agree that the problem does not lay in God's inability nor do they ignore the Bible's teaching of the reality of hell. Offering an alternative for why God does not save all, Piper explains, "because there is something else that [God] wills more, which would be lost if he exerted his sovereign power to save all." Believe it or not, both Arminians and Calvinists affirm this-the two wills of God. They simply disagree on what God's higher commitment is that prevents all persons from being saved.
3.Arminianism. This is a Christian perspective that understands that God knows the future and is in control, yet for God to have an authentic relationship with us He cannot impinge upon our choices-our "free-will" must be preserved. So, God desires all people to be saved, yet not everyone is saved because not all choose to be saved. (The name "Arminianism" comes from Jacob Arminius, a Dutch theologian who rebelled against the standard teaching of the church back in the late 16th century.)
4.Augustinian/Reformed. This is a Christian perspective that would understand that an individual's salvation is entirely dependent on the Lord. Our decisions and choices are real and we are held accountable for them, yet apart from the Lord's intervening work, none of us would choose God, thus it is God's prior choice of us that determines our response.
The reason that "all" are not saved is because God has not determined that "all" will be saved. (The name "Reformed" comes from the Protestant Reformation which occurred in the early 16th century, especially the tradition that followed John Calvin's teaching. "Augustinian" comes from the 5th century church father, Augustine of Hippo, who expounded this classic position clearly in his writings.)
A Reformed Understanding of 1 Timothy 2:4
Between the two Christian options given to us, it would seem like the Reformed tradition has the biggest problem with making sense of this verse. In fact, 1 Timothy 2:4 is a traditional proof-text that Arminians will typically run to when trying to discredit Reformed theology. So, how can those of the Reformed tradition make sense of this verse? If the Reformed believe that not all are saved because God has not elected all to be saved (see Rom 9:14-23), then how does 1 Timothy 2:4 make any sense at all? Doesn't the passage plainly say that God "desires all people to be saved"?
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. - 1 Tim 2:1-7
What does Paul mean in verse 4 that God "desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth"? Or, in verse 6, that Jesus "gave himself as a ransom for all"?
Many a Christian over the years has been puzzled by these passages. If God desires all people to be saved, then why aren't all people saved? There have been four basic interpretive traditions of this passage:
1.Universalism. This is a heretical (non-Christian) perspective that ignores passages of Scripture that talk about the reality of Hell, judgment, or passages that teach about conscious faith in Jesus Christ being a prerequisite for salvation. So, the universalist assumes, God desires all people to be saved, therefore all are saved.
2.Open Theism. This is another heretical perspective that assumes that God does not know, nor determine, the future. Open Theists claim that for God to have an authentic relationship with us, He cannot know the future. God desires all people to be saved, but He can't do anything about it because He is dependent upon us to make those choices.
Even though it was God's will for Jesus to suffer and die, accountability still fell on those responsible for His death, as highlighted in ( Mark 14:21).
God's dispositional will reflects His attitude and what pleases or displeases Him. For instance, ( 1 Timothy 2:4) reveals God's desire for all to be saved and know the truth. This illustrates God's disposition towards the lost, emphasizing His desire for their salvation. Despite God's universal desire for salvation, not everyone chooses to accept it.
There is a distinction between God's dispositional will and His sovereign will.
In essence, the will of God comprises three elements: 1) God's sovereign will is manifested in His unchangeable decrees. He decreed that there be light, and there was light. , ( Genesis 1:3)-an illustration of His efficacious decree.
He permitted Satan to afflict Job And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. , ( Job 1:12)-an instance of His permissive decree. 2) God's revealed will is found in His precepts, provided to us so that we may live in holiness. We have the capacity (but not the right) to violate these commands. 3) God's dispositional will is His attitude. Sometimes, God ordains something that does not bring Him pleasure, such as the death of the wicked as seen in Ezekiel 33:11."
Because God is sovereign, He must at the very least, God "permits" all events and happenings. Within God's sovereign will, He chooses to allow many things to occur that do not bring Him pleasure. Referring again to the example of Joseph and his brothers, God decided, through an act of His decretive will, to permit the kidnapping and enslavement of Joseph. God's permissive will allowed the sins of Joseph's brothers to bring about a greater good (see Genesis 50:20). Despite every instance of mistreatment towards Joseph, God had the power to intervene, but He "allowed" the evil to take place, and in that limited sense, He sovereignly "willed" it to happen.
God's revealed or preceptive will is not concealed from us. This aspect of God's will encompasses what God has chosen to disclose to us in the Bible-His precepts are clearly stated. "He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God" ( Micah 6:8).
The preceptive will of God is what He desires us to do (or not do). For instance, we understand that it is God's will for us to speak the truth in love ( Ephesians 4:15), to repent, and turn to God ( Acts 3:19). It is God's revealed will that we refrain from committing adultery.
Obeying God's revealed will is crucial. As stated in ( 1 Corinthians 6:18), we should avoid sexual immorality. Similarly, ( Ephesians 5:18) advises against drunkenness. God's revealed will, as mentioned in ( Psalm 19:7), serves to guide and enlighten us.
We are bound to follow God's revealed or preceptive will, although we retain the ability to disobey. Adam and Eve, for instance, were instructed to be fruitful, tend the garden, and avoid a specific tree ( Genesis 1-2). Regrettably, they defied God's instructions ( Genesis 3) and faced the consequences of their actions. We cannot justify our sins by claiming they fulfill God's sovereign will.
"What is the difference between God's sovereign will and God's revealed will?
21 de July de 2024
Response
Human will is quite simple: when we desire something to occur, we "will" it to happen; when we take action, we demonstrate our "will" in the situation. God's will is more intricate. Theologians identify three distinct aspects of God's will in the Bible: His sovereign (decretive) will, His revealed (preceptive) will, and His dispositional will.
God's sovereign or decretive will is also known as His "hidden" will. It is "sovereign" because it reveals God as the Supreme ruler of the universe who ordains all events. It is "decretive" as it involves God's decrees. It is "hidden" because we often remain unaware of this aspect of God's will until His decrees come to pass. Nothing occurs outside of God's sovereign will.
For instance, it was God's sovereign will for Joseph to be taken to Egypt, endure imprisonment in Pharaoh's dungeon, interpret the king's dreams, ultimately rescue his people from famine, and receive honor from all ( Genesis 37-50). Initially, Joseph and his brothers were unaware of God's will in these circumstances, but at each stage, God's plan became clearer.
When Ephesians 1:11 portrays God as the one "who works all things according to the counsel of His will," it refers to God's sovereign or decretive will. God Himself affirms the certainty of His sovereign will in Isaiah 46:10: "My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please."
Due to God's sovereignty, His will cannot be thwarted The sovereign or decretive will of God can be categorized into His efficacious will and His permissive will. This distinction is necessary because God does not directly cause everything to occur. Some of His decrees are efficacious (directly contributing to the fulfillment of God's desire), while others are permissive (allowing for an indirect fulfillment of God's desire).
BUT.. Scripture says that God desires all people to be saved.
While 1 Tim. 2 1-8 and 2 Peter 3:9 say that God desires all people to be saved, it does not say that He decrees it to be so. He is compassionate towards His creatures and does shed His goodness upon creation every day with the reliability of day turning to night to day again, rain in season, multiplication of animals to sustain us, and the yearly regrowth of vegetation for our diet as well. He sometimes spares unregenerate people from disasters and yet allows regenerate people to perish or suffer much loss. He allows both unregenerate and regenerate people to prosper and become rich and also allows both to be impoverished. But the Bible never says that all humans will be saved. It clearly teaches that only the elect will be saved.
I find this excerpt from the site: bibliotodo has a very good explanation for this question. Here is presented the prevalent interpretations to this question. I think it is only fair to present the various sides of this paradox in Scripture. Then is an Excerpt from Marc Sim's blog who explains with a few additional points.
I encourage each person to give this serious thoughtful prayer, including myself, before deciding on why all are not saved if God desires it to be so.
GiGi, I will pray with you on your written statement for Trump and our government . We all need God to cleanse the house and to make it better. I hope and pray that others will come on board and pray .
Only if more people knew the word ?
John 1:1-4
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the resurrection of Jesus Christ
Scripture instructs us to pray for those who are appointed to govern, so I do so whomever is in that position. I am praying for President Trump in these times. May God direct His path, leading him to govern well, in justice, mercy, and wisdom. I pray for the U.S.A. and its people, that God will bring many to repentance and faith, that God will turn the tide of what has done so much harm to our country and citizens, and that He will replace evil policies and restore what are good policies. May our government act with integrity and humility, seeking the true good of the citizens living here, working lawfully and honestly according to the constitution and code of law in place, removing laws that are corrupt, and initiating legislation that upholds our freedoms and allows citizens to prosper from the hard work one does daily. I pray that lawlessness is no longer rewarded as well as sloth, that those who can work will be incentivized to work instead of taking welfare, may those who are in true need of assistance be given what they need. May God have mercy on our country and bless us as He has in the past since start. It is my hope that many believers in our country will set themselves to pray and live up to the calling of God in their lives to be imitators of Christ and live godly lives in a wicked world.
Revelation 4:1 and beyond are future events that have yet to take place.
Write the things which thou hast seen(past), and the things which are(ch 2-3, Past-Present), and the things which shall be hereafter;(Future: Tribulation is Revelation 4:1 (no one knows when but the Father) - Revelation 19:11-21 (2nd Coming of Christ.
I concur with Brother Chris, salvation is offered to anyone regardless of their present position!
In 1 Timothy 1:15 Paul says he was the chef of sinners. Jesus asked Paul in Acts 9:4 "why persecutest thou me? However Paul found grace. Paul was an instrument preserved before the foundation of the world by the foreknowledge of God.
When we consider the quote in Psalms 5:5
"thou hatest all workers of iniquity"
I believe that is those who are perhaps vessels of wrath who refuse the truth and deliberately going against God's will until the end with no repentance. God uses his foreknowledge to determine this as well.
Ephesians 6:11 - Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
It says put on the whole armor of God, which is a command. And this is Aorist Tense which means do it one time. That's very important!
Put on the whole armor of God. The purpose: that you may be able to what? Stand against the wiles of the devil. The word wiles is the word METHODEA which means methods or schemes. And notice that all of this is to cause us to stand. Not to fight but to stand. Why? Because our position is in Christ at the right hand of the throne of God in the spirit realm!
What do we have to fight Satan for?
Ephesians 6:13 - Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Another command, wherefore take unto you (Aorist Tense), the whole armour of God, that you may be able to withstand, and that's the word resist, in the evil day, and having done all, that is after everything has been worked out, to stand. In other words, once the dust settles, you're still standing. Stand, not fight!
Well, this is all I have to share in Ephesians from a Biblical Greek perspective. I will begin with Philippians soon, Lord willing!
Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
The word joined is the word glue, glued to the wife. Once you become one, leave mother and father, period! And they two shall be one flesh. That's a quote from Genesis 2:24.
Ephesians 6:10 - Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
The word finally means summary. The armor of God represents the whole book of Ephesians in summary form. Paul is under house arrest. He is chained to a soldier. Some people think that Paul got this description from the soldier that he is chained to. This is something that is a Jewish concept that might have been inspired by the soldier that was there, but the items as elements of the armor is not anything that is new.
So, he says, finally, my brethren, and here's the first command: be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Be empowered. And this is the only verb in this whole section that is a Present Tense that means be continually empowered in the Lord, literally, in the grip of his strength.
He pictures the believer as being in God's grip. And God's grip is so strong that we are to draw off of the strength of that grip. But instead, we try to wiggle and squirm. And sometimes we are struggling, where most of the time we're struggling against God. Be still and know that I'm God he says.
Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess, or literally a dissipated or destructive life; but be filled with the Spirit;
The word filled is what is called a present imperative. Be continually being filled with the Holy Spirit. And again, the word filled means to have the human faculties filled. It's influence. Seek to have the Holy Spirit influence your life.
Ephesians 5:21 - Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
This is very important: Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Submission to one another, that is to every believer. And just a short technical point. The word submission in Greek means to be in an orderly relationship.
What that means is there is not a relationship between two people, but between three, you, me, and the Lord. I have to line up with the Lord for a right relationship with you!
In the book of Acts, the disciples said to the ruling Sanhedrin when they said we will not allow you to preach any more in this man's name, and they said whether it's right to obey you rather than God, or God rather than you, you decide. We're going to obey God!
To be in an orderly relationship means that I can submit and function with you, but when you put me in a position to sin against my Lord and violate His word, if I were to obey that, I would be out of order. It's a little confusing but it has to do with lining up with people in the Lord. So, when it says submitting yourselves to one another, it means line up with one another in the Lord.
Hi KidinChrist. If I may add something to this discussion: you're correct that God has no love for Satan & his cohorts, as they have received their initial punishment for their disobedience to their Creator & usurping their position, by being banished from God's Presence. Now they await for their final punishment in the Lake of Fire ( Revelation 20:10).
But as far as God's Love for mankind, in spite of those who hate Him & dabble in all types of wickedness or raising their fists against Him, we know from the Word that this is still the day of Salvation that is offered to them and to each one of us. While there is time, the Gospel that went out after the ascension of our Lord is still the same Gospel that goes out today - the only one that offers God's Salvation, demonstrating His Love for all. If God hates such sinnners now, then the salvation message is useless to them & they would be forever doomed. But we have no such instruction from the Bible, except that which was given to the disciples of Christ to 'go into all nations, teaching, baptizing, and to obey'. But if any would not receive them or hear them, they were to depart from there, 'shaking the dust from their sandals as a testimony against their obstinacy'.
And yet, Jesus taught an important aspect of God's Love & God loving all, in Luke 6:32, "For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them." We can easily understand this verse when we apply it ourselves, but the same principle applies to how God loves us. If God only loved those who returned their love to Him, how does that reflect on God's attitude to both the loving and unloving towards Him? We might fail in this by showing love & favor to those who are kind & loving towards us & not so (or, not so much) to those who despise us, but does God behave as we do, we who have carnal tendencies? If Jesus' Words & Life perfectly reflected His Father, then we know that God still loves all sinners.
Thanks for your reply and using biblical precepts for explaining. I didn't provide much clarity in my initial question. If one deliberately lives a life of sin, and takes pride in being a sinner by devoting their life to Satan, (i.e. witchcraft, sorcery, ect.) and have a made up mind to hate the Almighty God with all their heart & soul; Does the Almighty God love them? God doesn't love Satan nor the fallen ones that were kicked out of the Kingdom along with Satan. I hope this brings more depth.
True Believer if I may say. Great words you wrote. There is a Famous saying " we are not sinners because we sin, we are sinners because we are born sinners ".
Now we all know why we are sinners, it's one man's disobedience. " Adam "
Romans 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were madesinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Blame it on Adam disobedience to God for our death, but God gives life .
1 Corinthians 15:22
For as inAdamall die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
We may all die in the flesh some day, but God give life through Jesus Christ .
Romans 6:23
For thewagesofsinis death; but the giftofGod is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ray , in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the gospel that saves today in Apostle Paul's epistle.
Hi Mrs. Rosetta, I just want to encourage you to trust God my sister. Matthew 11:28-29 reads Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29) Take my yoke upon you and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. look unto Jesus my sister and don't let Satan bring you down .
But if I was to narrow down onto one particular 'stand-out' for me from those ten parts, it would be Romans 9:14-23 (as given). Whereas I would have actually referenced the whole subject matter given in Romans 9:1-24: where the apostle was speaking about Israel, examples from their history, God's Intervention, an imagined question proffered, & finally to Gentiles who would also be recipients of God's Mercy & riches. Blessings.
God bless you and by the way, Welcome to the site!
Ephesians is a treasure!
"There is not a relationship between two people, but between three, you, me, and the Lord. I HAVE TO LINE UP WITH THE LORD FOR A RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU!"
Very well put Brother Jesse.
God bless you and all that you are doing!
Pt. 10
The thrust of what Paul is getting across in 1 Timothy 2:4 is that we should never forsake praying for someone because they belong to a certain class, group, or culture. No "tribe" is too far from God that He cannot save them, so pray with all diligence for God to move His sovereign hand and save."
And finally, I include this excerpt from John Piper:
If "all people" refers to every person without exception, then universalism is our conclusion only if God's desire to save is absolute. But the Lord desires one thing more than the salvation of all - His glory ( Isa. 48:11). In one sense, God can truly want all who have ever lived to be saved; however, this desire always defers to His will to glorify Himself, the will in view when the Bible says His will is always done. The Lord is glorified when sin is punished in hell, and so God's supreme desire is met even when people are not redeemed.
At this point, I will take this up in a day or two to give time for readers to consider this question for themselves. Then I will continue with how I understand this topic.
Pt. 9
The subtext of the entire book of Romans is the division that is occurring in the church between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians. It takes a vision from heaven with God coercing Peter to be okay with entering into a Gentile household and sharing the gospel with Cornelius in Acts 10 (see also Acts 6; Gal 3:28; Eph 2:11-22).
For centuries and centuries, Jewish people were told that their people, children of Abraham, were God's chosen people. And if anyone wanted to enter into a saving relationship with Yahweh, they had to first become Jewish. Further, there was a deep animosity that ran between Jews and Gentiles in the first century. It would have been similar to the way a Southerner would have viewed a Northerner shortly after the Civil War. There was deep distrust and anger, not to mention a wide cultural distance between the two groups.
Now, after the death, burial, and resurrection of the Messiah, Jesus, it didn't matter whether you were Jewish, Greek, Scythian, or slave ( Col 3:11). All that mattered was your relationship with Jesus, and Jesus was open and available to any and all cultures, ethnicities, and tribes.
Therefore, when Paul is explaining that God desires "all people" to be saved he is not referring to all people without exception (every individual), but to all people without distinction (every kind) to be saved. Don't think that you shouldn't pray for those emperors or governors ( 1 Tim 2:2) just because they are Roman or Greek-pray for all people; God desires people from every tribe, tongue, and nation to be gathered around His throne ( Rev 5:9-10).
In Conclusion
I personally find the "all persons without distinction" argument to be more satisfactory than the "two wills of God" interpretation in 1 Timothy 2:4. I do affirm classic doctrine of the two wills of God, I just don't think that is the main point Paul is trying to make here in 1 Timothy.
See Pt.. 10
Pt. 8
John Piper explains:
"The difference between Calvinists and Arminians lies not in whether there are two wills in God, but in what they say this higher commitment is. What does God will more than saving all?
The answer given by Arminians is that human self-determination and the possible resulting love relationship with God are more valuable than saving all people by sovereign, efficacious grace. The answer given by Calvinists is that the greater value is the manifestation of the full range of God's glory in wrath and mercy ( Romans 9:22-23) and the humbling of man so that he enjoys giving all credit to God for his salvation ( 1 Corinthians 1:29)."
Therefore this perspective would say that God desires all to be saved but this "desire" is fundamentally different than what God ultimately determines or decrees to happen.
(2) All Persons Without Distinction. This perspective views that when Paul explains that God desires "all people" to be saved he is not referring to all persons without exception, but to all persons without distinction. In other words, Paul is not referring to God's desire for all individuals who have ever lived, but to all kinds of people. God is not only the savior of Jewish people, but of non-Jewish people as well.
After explaining that we should pray for "all people" because God desires "all people" to be saved because Jesus gave himself as a ransom for "all people," Paul concludes with this: "For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth," 1 Tim 2:7. Why does Paul need to insert that little parenthetical oath (I swear I'm not making this up!). Likely because so few of the early Christians believed that people who were not Jewish could actually be saved.
In Acts 15, there has to be an entire church council held to figure out whether or not its okay for Gentiles to become Christians.
See Pt. 9
Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.
1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter
1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27
God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).
God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:
"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.
-Peace and blessings
Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.
1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter
1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27
God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).
God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:
"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.
-Peace and blessings
Pt. 7
There are two basic Reformed interpretations of this verse (and other verses similar to it):
(1) The Two Wills of God. This is what is sometimes referred to as God's "antecedent" and "consequent" will (Thomas Aquinas) or God's "secret" and "revealed" will (Jonathan Edwards). A contemporary proponent of this perspective would be John Piper who refers to the "will of decree" and "will of command." This interpretation would see a difference between what God desires to happen and what He ultimately decrees to happen. God desires all to be saved, but He does not ultimately decree that all are saved. John Piper explains, "God wills not to save all, even though he is willing to save all." A helpful illustration would be Ezekiel 18:23, "Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" God takes no delight in the death of the wicked-He does not enjoy it. And yet, the wicked still perish. God desires something (the wicked not perishing) that does not ultimately happen. Why would God desire something but not get it? Why would He desire to save all, but not allow all to be saved? Universalists reply, "If God desires all to be saved then all must be saved." Open Theists reply, "God may desire all to be saved, yet all aren't saved because God can't save all." Arminians and Calvinists (Reformed) repudiate both of those replies.
Both Calvinists and Arminians agree that the problem does not lay in God's inability nor do they ignore the Bible's teaching of the reality of hell. Offering an alternative for why God does not save all, Piper explains, "because there is something else that [God] wills more, which would be lost if he exerted his sovereign power to save all." Believe it or not, both Arminians and Calvinists affirm this-the two wills of God. They simply disagree on what God's higher commitment is that prevents all persons from being saved.
See Pt. 8
Pt. 6
3.Arminianism. This is a Christian perspective that understands that God knows the future and is in control, yet for God to have an authentic relationship with us He cannot impinge upon our choices-our "free-will" must be preserved. So, God desires all people to be saved, yet not everyone is saved because not all choose to be saved. (The name "Arminianism" comes from Jacob Arminius, a Dutch theologian who rebelled against the standard teaching of the church back in the late 16th century.)
4.Augustinian/Reformed. This is a Christian perspective that would understand that an individual's salvation is entirely dependent on the Lord. Our decisions and choices are real and we are held accountable for them, yet apart from the Lord's intervening work, none of us would choose God, thus it is God's prior choice of us that determines our response.
The reason that "all" are not saved is because God has not determined that "all" will be saved. (The name "Reformed" comes from the Protestant Reformation which occurred in the early 16th century, especially the tradition that followed John Calvin's teaching. "Augustinian" comes from the 5th century church father, Augustine of Hippo, who expounded this classic position clearly in his writings.)
A Reformed Understanding of 1 Timothy 2:4
Between the two Christian options given to us, it would seem like the Reformed tradition has the biggest problem with making sense of this verse. In fact, 1 Timothy 2:4 is a traditional proof-text that Arminians will typically run to when trying to discredit Reformed theology. So, how can those of the Reformed tradition make sense of this verse? If the Reformed believe that not all are saved because God has not elected all to be saved (see Rom 9:14-23), then how does 1 Timothy 2:4 make any sense at all? Doesn't the passage plainly say that God "desires all people to be saved"?
See Pt. 7
Pt. 5
And this excert:
"Does God Desire All to be Saved?
September 2, 2022 Marc Sims
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. - 1 Tim 2:1-7
What does Paul mean in verse 4 that God "desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth"? Or, in verse 6, that Jesus "gave himself as a ransom for all"?
Many a Christian over the years has been puzzled by these passages. If God desires all people to be saved, then why aren't all people saved? There have been four basic interpretive traditions of this passage:
1.Universalism. This is a heretical (non-Christian) perspective that ignores passages of Scripture that talk about the reality of Hell, judgment, or passages that teach about conscious faith in Jesus Christ being a prerequisite for salvation. So, the universalist assumes, God desires all people to be saved, therefore all are saved.
2.Open Theism. This is another heretical perspective that assumes that God does not know, nor determine, the future. Open Theists claim that for God to have an authentic relationship with us, He cannot know the future. God desires all people to be saved, but He can't do anything about it because He is dependent upon us to make those choices.
See Pt. 6
Pt. 4
Even though it was God's will for Jesus to suffer and die, accountability still fell on those responsible for His death, as highlighted in ( Mark 14:21).
God's dispositional will reflects His attitude and what pleases or displeases Him. For instance, ( 1 Timothy 2:4) reveals God's desire for all to be saved and know the truth. This illustrates God's disposition towards the lost, emphasizing His desire for their salvation. Despite God's universal desire for salvation, not everyone chooses to accept it.
There is a distinction between God's dispositional will and His sovereign will.
In essence, the will of God comprises three elements: 1) God's sovereign will is manifested in His unchangeable decrees. He decreed that there be light, and there was light. , ( Genesis 1:3)-an illustration of His efficacious decree.
He permitted Satan to afflict Job And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. , ( Job 1:12)-an instance of His permissive decree. 2) God's revealed will is found in His precepts, provided to us so that we may live in holiness. We have the capacity (but not the right) to violate these commands. 3) God's dispositional will is His attitude. Sometimes, God ordains something that does not bring Him pleasure, such as the death of the wicked as seen in Ezekiel 33:11."
See Pt. 5
Pt. 3
Because God is sovereign, He must at the very least, God "permits" all events and happenings. Within God's sovereign will, He chooses to allow many things to occur that do not bring Him pleasure. Referring again to the example of Joseph and his brothers, God decided, through an act of His decretive will, to permit the kidnapping and enslavement of Joseph. God's permissive will allowed the sins of Joseph's brothers to bring about a greater good (see Genesis 50:20). Despite every instance of mistreatment towards Joseph, God had the power to intervene, but He "allowed" the evil to take place, and in that limited sense, He sovereignly "willed" it to happen.
God's revealed or preceptive will is not concealed from us. This aspect of God's will encompasses what God has chosen to disclose to us in the Bible-His precepts are clearly stated. "He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God" ( Micah 6:8).
The preceptive will of God is what He desires us to do (or not do). For instance, we understand that it is God's will for us to speak the truth in love ( Ephesians 4:15), to repent, and turn to God ( Acts 3:19). It is God's revealed will that we refrain from committing adultery.
Obeying God's revealed will is crucial. As stated in ( 1 Corinthians 6:18), we should avoid sexual immorality. Similarly, ( Ephesians 5:18) advises against drunkenness. God's revealed will, as mentioned in ( Psalm 19:7), serves to guide and enlighten us.
We are bound to follow God's revealed or preceptive will, although we retain the ability to disobey. Adam and Eve, for instance, were instructed to be fruitful, tend the garden, and avoid a specific tree ( Genesis 1-2). Regrettably, they defied God's instructions ( Genesis 3) and faced the consequences of their actions. We cannot justify our sins by claiming they fulfill God's sovereign will.
See Pt. 4
Pt. 2
EXCERPT
"What is the difference between God's sovereign will and God's revealed will?
21 de July de 2024
Response
Human will is quite simple: when we desire something to occur, we "will" it to happen; when we take action, we demonstrate our "will" in the situation. God's will is more intricate. Theologians identify three distinct aspects of God's will in the Bible: His sovereign (decretive) will, His revealed (preceptive) will, and His dispositional will.
God's sovereign or decretive will is also known as His "hidden" will. It is "sovereign" because it reveals God as the Supreme ruler of the universe who ordains all events. It is "decretive" as it involves God's decrees. It is "hidden" because we often remain unaware of this aspect of God's will until His decrees come to pass. Nothing occurs outside of God's sovereign will.
For instance, it was God's sovereign will for Joseph to be taken to Egypt, endure imprisonment in Pharaoh's dungeon, interpret the king's dreams, ultimately rescue his people from famine, and receive honor from all ( Genesis 37-50). Initially, Joseph and his brothers were unaware of God's will in these circumstances, but at each stage, God's plan became clearer.
When Ephesians 1:11 portrays God as the one "who works all things according to the counsel of His will," it refers to God's sovereign or decretive will. God Himself affirms the certainty of His sovereign will in Isaiah 46:10: "My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please."
Due to God's sovereignty, His will cannot be thwarted The sovereign or decretive will of God can be categorized into His efficacious will and His permissive will. This distinction is necessary because God does not directly cause everything to occur. Some of His decrees are efficacious (directly contributing to the fulfillment of God's desire), while others are permissive (allowing for an indirect fulfillment of God's desire).
See Pt.3
While 1 Tim. 2 1-8 and 2 Peter 3:9 say that God desires all people to be saved, it does not say that He decrees it to be so. He is compassionate towards His creatures and does shed His goodness upon creation every day with the reliability of day turning to night to day again, rain in season, multiplication of animals to sustain us, and the yearly regrowth of vegetation for our diet as well. He sometimes spares unregenerate people from disasters and yet allows regenerate people to perish or suffer much loss. He allows both unregenerate and regenerate people to prosper and become rich and also allows both to be impoverished. But the Bible never says that all humans will be saved. It clearly teaches that only the elect will be saved.
I find this excerpt from the site: bibliotodo has a very good explanation for this question. Here is presented the prevalent interpretations to this question. I think it is only fair to present the various sides of this paradox in Scripture. Then is an Excerpt from Marc Sim's blog who explains with a few additional points.
I encourage each person to give this serious thoughtful prayer, including myself, before deciding on why all are not saved if God desires it to be so.
Only if more people knew the word ?
John 1:1-4
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the resurrection of Jesus Christ
Scripture instructs us to pray for those who are appointed to govern, so I do so whomever is in that position. I am praying for President Trump in these times. May God direct His path, leading him to govern well, in justice, mercy, and wisdom. I pray for the U.S.A. and its people, that God will bring many to repentance and faith, that God will turn the tide of what has done so much harm to our country and citizens, and that He will replace evil policies and restore what are good policies. May our government act with integrity and humility, seeking the true good of the citizens living here, working lawfully and honestly according to the constitution and code of law in place, removing laws that are corrupt, and initiating legislation that upholds our freedoms and allows citizens to prosper from the hard work one does daily. I pray that lawlessness is no longer rewarded as well as sloth, that those who can work will be incentivized to work instead of taking welfare, may those who are in true need of assistance be given what they need. May God have mercy on our country and bless us as He has in the past since start. It is my hope that many believers in our country will set themselves to pray and live up to the calling of God in their lives to be imitators of Christ and live godly lives in a wicked world.
Write the things which thou hast seen(past), and the things which are(ch 2-3, Past-Present), and the things which shall be hereafter;(Future: Tribulation is Revelation 4:1 (no one knows when but the Father) - Revelation 19:11-21 (2nd Coming of Christ.
We are in Matthew 24:3-14
God Bless
I concur with Brother Chris, salvation is offered to anyone regardless of their present position!
In 1 Timothy 1:15 Paul says he was the chef of sinners. Jesus asked Paul in Acts 9:4 "why persecutest thou me? However Paul found grace. Paul was an instrument preserved before the foundation of the world by the foreknowledge of God.
When we consider the quote in Psalms 5:5
"thou hatest all workers of iniquity"
I believe that is those who are perhaps vessels of wrath who refuse the truth and deliberately going against God's will until the end with no repentance. God uses his foreknowledge to determine this as well.
Blessings.
Ephesians 6:11 - Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
It says put on the whole armor of God, which is a command. And this is Aorist Tense which means do it one time. That's very important!
Put on the whole armor of God. The purpose: that you may be able to what? Stand against the wiles of the devil. The word wiles is the word METHODEA which means methods or schemes. And notice that all of this is to cause us to stand. Not to fight but to stand. Why? Because our position is in Christ at the right hand of the throne of God in the spirit realm!
What do we have to fight Satan for?
Ephesians 6:13 - Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Another command, wherefore take unto you (Aorist Tense), the whole armour of God, that you may be able to withstand, and that's the word resist, in the evil day, and having done all, that is after everything has been worked out, to stand. In other words, once the dust settles, you're still standing. Stand, not fight!
Well, this is all I have to share in Ephesians from a Biblical Greek perspective. I will begin with Philippians soon, Lord willing!
God Bless!!!
Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
The word joined is the word glue, glued to the wife. Once you become one, leave mother and father, period! And they two shall be one flesh. That's a quote from Genesis 2:24.
Ephesians 6:10 - Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
The word finally means summary. The armor of God represents the whole book of Ephesians in summary form. Paul is under house arrest. He is chained to a soldier. Some people think that Paul got this description from the soldier that he is chained to. This is something that is a Jewish concept that might have been inspired by the soldier that was there, but the items as elements of the armor is not anything that is new.
So, he says, finally, my brethren, and here's the first command: be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Be empowered. And this is the only verb in this whole section that is a Present Tense that means be continually empowered in the Lord, literally, in the grip of his strength.
He pictures the believer as being in God's grip. And God's grip is so strong that we are to draw off of the strength of that grip. But instead, we try to wiggle and squirm. And sometimes we are struggling, where most of the time we're struggling against God. Be still and know that I'm God he says.
Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess, or literally a dissipated or destructive life; but be filled with the Spirit;
The word filled is what is called a present imperative. Be continually being filled with the Holy Spirit. And again, the word filled means to have the human faculties filled. It's influence. Seek to have the Holy Spirit influence your life.
Ephesians 5:21 - Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
This is very important: Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Submission to one another, that is to every believer. And just a short technical point. The word submission in Greek means to be in an orderly relationship.
What that means is there is not a relationship between two people, but between three, you, me, and the Lord. I have to line up with the Lord for a right relationship with you!
In the book of Acts, the disciples said to the ruling Sanhedrin when they said we will not allow you to preach any more in this man's name, and they said whether it's right to obey you rather than God, or God rather than you, you decide. We're going to obey God!
To be in an orderly relationship means that I can submit and function with you, but when you put me in a position to sin against my Lord and violate His word, if I were to obey that, I would be out of order. It's a little confusing but it has to do with lining up with people in the Lord. So, when it says submitting yourselves to one another, it means line up with one another in the Lord.
But as far as God's Love for mankind, in spite of those who hate Him & dabble in all types of wickedness or raising their fists against Him, we know from the Word that this is still the day of Salvation that is offered to them and to each one of us. While there is time, the Gospel that went out after the ascension of our Lord is still the same Gospel that goes out today - the only one that offers God's Salvation, demonstrating His Love for all. If God hates such sinnners now, then the salvation message is useless to them & they would be forever doomed. But we have no such instruction from the Bible, except that which was given to the disciples of Christ to 'go into all nations, teaching, baptizing, and to obey'. But if any would not receive them or hear them, they were to depart from there, 'shaking the dust from their sandals as a testimony against their obstinacy'.
And yet, Jesus taught an important aspect of God's Love & God loving all, in Luke 6:32, "For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them." We can easily understand this verse when we apply it ourselves, but the same principle applies to how God loves us. If God only loved those who returned their love to Him, how does that reflect on God's attitude to both the loving and unloving towards Him? We might fail in this by showing love & favor to those who are kind & loving towards us & not so (or, not so much) to those who despise us, but does God behave as we do, we who have carnal tendencies? If Jesus' Words & Life perfectly reflected His Father, then we know that God still loves all sinners.
Thanks for the clarity.
There are those who reject the precious gift of Christ and there are those who are deceived.
I would refer you to Psalms 5:4-5
"For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
I believe the phrase WORKERS OF INIQUITY refers to people who actively engage in sinful behavior, oppose righteousness and defy God's laws.
Blessings.
Thanks for your reply and using biblical precepts for explaining. I didn't provide much clarity in my initial question. If one deliberately lives a life of sin, and takes pride in being a sinner by devoting their life to Satan, (i.e. witchcraft, sorcery, ect.) and have a made up mind to hate the Almighty God with all their heart & soul; Does the Almighty God love them? God doesn't love Satan nor the fallen ones that were kicked out of the Kingdom along with Satan. I hope this brings more depth.
-Peace and blessings
Now we all know why we are sinners, it's one man's disobedience. " Adam "
Romans 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were madesinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Blame it on Adam disobedience to God for our death, but God gives life .
1 Corinthians 15:22
For as inAdamall die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
We may all die in the flesh some day, but God give life through Jesus Christ .
Romans 6:23
For thewagesofsinis death; but the giftofGod is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ray , in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the gospel that saves today in Apostle Paul's epistle.
No not everyone will enter into his kingdom.
Some post declares that only some have a chance at salvation.
I come not into the world to condemn the world, but the world through him might be saved.
Key words The World and might be saved.
Read Romans chapter 1 people have a choice to follow or not to follow.
Be Blessed...