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  • Jimbob - 1 year ago
    When is the wrath of God?

    I have said several times if we do not see the tribulation period and the wrath of God as being completely different time periods, that it will cause confusion in our understanding of prophecy in the Lastdays. If we get one thing wrong such as this, it will cause other parts of our interpretation of prophecy to not be correct. When this happens we have to twist Scripture to fit our understanding, or as I have said before we would have to read things into Scripture that's not there.

    In ( Joel 2:31) We are told "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, ((BEFORE)) the great and the terrible day of the LORD come". The sun turns dark and the moon to blood ((before)) the day of the LORD comes.

    When does this happen in the book of Revelation?

    ( Rev 6:12-13) v12 "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal. and, lo, there was a great earthquake; ((and the sun became black)) as sackcloth of hair, and ((the moon became as blood)). v13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind". The sun is dark, the moon to blood, and the stars fall from heaven, all this happens at the 6th seal. Then if we look at ( Rev 6:14-17) we see the wrath of the Lamb is come in verse 17.

    Do we see this any other place in the Bible? Yes we do in ( Mt 24:29-31) "Immediately ((after the tribulation)) of those days shall ((the sun be darkened)), and ((the moon shall not give her light)), and ((the stars shall fall from heaven)) and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken". v30 "and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory". v31 "And he shall send his angels with the great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect".

    After the tribulation the sun is darkened, moon shall not give her light, the stars fall from heaven, THEN the Son of man comes in the clouds to gather together His elect. THEN the wrath of God.
  • David0921 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Chris,

    This is a classic example of why we must read the Whole Bible interpreting scripture with scripture to come to Truth. And how the Bible is its own interpreter.

    When we fail to do this we are almost certain to come to wrong understanding. Christ spoke in parables and without a parable spoke he not. The Old Testament Ceremonial Laws were a "historical parable". A shadow pointing to the substance.

    Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

    Hebrews 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

    Hebrews 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

    Hebrews 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

    Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

    Hebrews 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

    Hebrews 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

    Hebrews 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

    Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

    Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

    Hebrews 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
  • Fredscanlan - 1 year ago
    Can you explain why Christ chose simple uneducated fishermen to become disciples? What is the difference between a head knowledge of Christ and a heart knowledge? Where does the law meet the gospel in a person of faith. Can the law justify us with only a head knowledge? How does faith intercede for us and can it ,without head knowledge?

    This doctrine concerning the law and the Gospel is a common thread throughout scripture!

    We must learn when and how to apply the needs of both.

    While we may experience temptation, the spirit will be held fast , a promise already given through the sanctifying power of the Blood of Christ.

    This promise is an inheritance from Heaven, that strengthens and preserves at any given moment, while we walk the corridors of life.

    Uneducated and simple, yet a heart that is ready, will see things while experiencing the glory that is ours. A constant conditioning a purifying being born again! He will give you the desires of your heart, as you move along as a child develops coming forth from the womb! With the heart man believeth unto salvation, a salvation that you can see, as you wait for the next birth pain! Repent and be Baptized
  • Carleton - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you Chris! I hope you are well your way. Amen. The perfect ransom was for all! Christ was not freed from death on the Cross, he exchanged His Life freely for the life of men by His Blood, if we believe. We are washed in regeneration by this Blood in faith.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Well said Chris

    my wrong Scripture reference,

    not 2 Corinthians 2:15, but 2 Corinthians 5:15
  • David0921 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Chris,

    No. The sacrifices of the Old Testament ceremonial law did not forgive their sins.

    Hebrews 8:3-6 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

    Genesis 13:14,15 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

    Hebrews 10:11,12 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
  • David Allen - 1 year ago
    please remember me and my family in your prayer , pray for my daughter Jessica and her husband Adam
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 2.

    So what did Jesus' Blood do that no other sacrifice could?

    A. it was the only RANSOM price for sin (all sin, for all people): Matthew 20:28; 1 Timothy 2:5,6.

    B. it was the only way to bring RECONCILIATION (no longer enemies, but now accepted & in peace) with God ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-21).

    C. it was the only way to PROPITIATE (to appease & turn away God's Anger) knowing that His Son's Blood fully met His Holy Demands to save those who would believe in Him ( 1 John 2:1,2).

    D. it was the only acceptable SUBSTITUTE that it would be Jesus that received man's condemnation, that no animal's blood could ever accomplish ( 2 Corinthians 5:21).

    E. and all this gave irrefutable proof that God's LOVE for sinners was genuine & lasting, that His Own Life, of His only Begotten Son, should be evident to all.

    True love can be seen when "a man lays down HIS life for his friends" ( John 15:13), & not just delegating the task to another. The Blood of Jesus, God's Son, shows us clearly, & should also do to the world, that God is indeed a God of Love, giving His best, His all to secure our salvation: given to all those who will respond to Him in faith in this great Work.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
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    Hello Kstott. When the Bible speaks of blood, whether of animals or man, it denotes the miracle of life given us by God; "for the life of the flesh is in the blood" ( Leviticus 17:11). As all mankind are born with sinful flesh, with a propensity to sin & violate the holy requirements of God ( Romans 3:23), God being both loving & just, is compelled to either condemn us or forgive us. To condemn would be simple, as we fully deserve the penalty of our sins ( Romans 6:23), but God reached out to us in our miserable hopeless state & provided a way of hope, healing & restoration.

    To His people Israel of old, God instituted the sacrificial system where the high priest would offer the blood of animals to atone for their sins & reconcile them to God ( Leviticus 8:15; Exodus 30:10). It was a case of the people either dying in their sins or that a substitute was provided on their behalf so their lives were spared. At this time, animals were sacrificed & their blood shed (i.e. their life given), & this was accepted by God to forgive them. But this was done yearly, because the blood offering of animals could never be permanent as this was man's offering to God, to stay God's Hand from them. But God had planned a future day, when He Himself would offer His Sacrifice to fully atone & redeem His people - & this Sacrifice would be made available to both Jew & Gentile. And this Sacrifice was God Himself, in sending His Word to become man ( John 1:1-14) & giving His Life as the only Pure & Perfect Sacrifice that would be fully acceptable to Him.
  • Jesusgirl87 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I do believe that Scripture does reveal that the Bride will see "that man of sin" before the Lord meets us in the air and calls up up with a shout...

    1 Thessalonians 4:16

    "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:"

    1 Thessalonians 4:17

    "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

    2 Thessalonians 2:3

    "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

    Revelation 4:1

    "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks so much for that RLW , clear and concise as usual . Glad to know that you are still out there keeping an eye on us :) .
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    This is why I DONT participate much when I am working. SMH

    Goodnight and God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Apparently I have done it again!

    When I said "God set aside his intellect and spoke plainly so it wouldn't affect the work of God.

    I meant Paul set aside his intellect and spoke plainly so it wouldn't affect the work of God.

    This is why I participate much when I am working.

    Goodnight and God bless.
  • Mrsjack - 1 year ago
    Does it say in Thessalonians that we will know or see the antichrist before the rapture?
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    INTRODUCTION TO EPHESIANS (Part 3):

    V. DATE / BACKGROUND:

    It was written around 63 A.D. while Paul was in prison in Rome ( Acts 28:16-31). Paul was in house arrest for two years. This was his first imprisonment. His second imprisonment is when he was in the Mamertine prison. But this first time, he was under house arrest for about two years.

    Ephesians is one of the prison letters. That is, one of the four written by Paul while he was imprisoned at this time. The others were Philippians, Colossians and Philemon. So, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and Philemon are known as the prison epistles or prison letters because they were written by Paul while he was under house arrest in Rome.

    VI. DELIVERED BY:

    It was delivered by Tychicus. Ephesians 6:21-22 and Colossians 4:7-8 tell us that Tychicus brought both letters. So, it is believed that Ephesians, Colossians, and Philemon, because Philemon is a man that lived in Colosse, so his letter accompanied the letter to Colosse, and Tychicus took all three and delivered them.

    VII. SECTION OUTLINE OF THE BOOK OF EPHESIANS:

    CHAPTERS 1-3 - The Doctrine of the New Life in Christ.

    CHAPTERS 4-6 - The Details of the New Life in Christ.

    In other words, he takes the doctrine of the first three chapters, and he goes into detail and in depth of those doctrines, the function and performance of the church. He's going to present to us the armor of God all in those last three chapters.

    That covers the introduction to Ephesians. Lord willing, I will share my introduction to Philippians soon.

    God Bless!!!
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    INTRODUCTION TO EPHESIANS (Part 2):

    So, John pastored there. And like I said, Paul was there for about three years. Timothy took over after him for a year and a half, and the letters and the missionary efforts coming out from here went all the way through and the seven churches in Revelation had actually started from out of Ephesus, one of the capitals and the main encampment of Christianity.

    Right outside of Ephesus is where the tomb of Mary is supposed to be, as history tells us that Mary actually wound up in Ephesus and spent her last days there. Ephesus was the Roman capital of Asia. Ephesus was known for having one of the seven wonders of the world - the temple of Artemis (or Diana).

    Ephesus is believed to be evangelized by Priscilla and Aquila. ( Acts 18:18-19). The church in Ephesus was later established by Paul during his third missionary journey. ( Acts 19). Paul ministered there for three years. After Paul left, Timothy pastored the church for about 1 1/2 years.

    Paul wrote to Timothy in Ephesus to counter false teaching by two leaders in the church in Ephesus - Hymenaeus and Alexander ( I Timothy 1:3 and I Timothy 1:20).

    Thirty years later, Christ gave the message to Ephesus in Revelation 2:1-7. So, thirty years later, the Lord said that you have left your first love. And that was Christ's message to them!

    IV. THE THEME OF EPHESIANS:

    It presents the believer's position in Christ. The term "in Christ" is the key phrase in the letter to the Ephesians.
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    INTRODUCTION TO EPHESIANS (Part 1):

    I. ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

    The author is Paul. His inscription is on all thirteen of his letters.

    II. TO WHOM IT WAS WRITTEN

    It was written to the church in Ephesus. Ephesians is believed to be a circulation letter distributed throughout Asia. The reason: Because many older manuscripts do not contain the words "in Ephesus" as in Verse 1. And so, in Ephesians 1:1, Paul writes and says to the believers who are in Ephesus. And the older manuscripts don't have the words "in Ephesus."

    And that causes us to believe that once the church in Ephesus received this letter, they wrote their name in the copy of it, and then sent it to the other churches where other churches could copy it and put their name on it. It's not addressed to specific individuals, nor is it to correct a specific problem in a certain church. The whole presentation of the letter was as if it was distributed to the whole body of Christ, which indeed it is.

    III. THE HISTORY OF EPHESUS:

    Ephesus was the Roman capital of Asia. Paul, during his third missionary journey came all the way over to Ephesus and he ministered there for about three years. He went up the coast over into Philippi, and down the coast through Macedonia and Achaia, and then came back over to Miletus, and then went back to Jerusalem.

    He actually started his missionary journey out of Antioch of Assyria, where all of the believers had gone after the persecutions began in Jerusalem.

    Ephesus is the hub of Asia as far as the missionary work goes. The apostle John himself pastored here right before he died. He came back either before or after his time on the island of Patmos.
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    INTRODUCTION TO GALATIANS (Part 2):

    III. THE HISTORY OF GALATIA:

    The Celtics migrated from Gaul in Modern France around the 3rd century B.C.

    The Romans conquered the Gauls in 189 B.C.

    Galatia became a Roman Province in 25 B.C.

    The name Galatia came to describe the entire Roman province.

    The churches in southern Galatia were established during Paul's 1st missionary journey ( Acts 13:14-23). After Paul's 1st missionary journey, the Jerusalem Council met around 49 A.D. to discuss the problem of the Gentiles and the Law.

    After Paul's 1st missionary journey and after the decision of the Jerusalem Council, false teachers (Judaizers) came into Galatia and infiltrated the churches with their false teaching. Shortly after the Jerusalem Council, Paul wrote his letter to the churches in the region of Galatia.

    IV. THE THEME OF GALATIANS:

    Salvation is by grace through faith alone.

    V. WHY IT WAS WRITTEN:

    False teachers attacked Paul's ministry and message. The Judaizers professed to be believers in Jesus as Messiah. Their doctrinal approach was the Gentiles are not in a position of Sons of the Covenant to receive the promises of God until they became Jews, and they follow the Law.

    VI. HOW IT WAS WRITTEN:

    The form of the letter of Galatians is different from all of the other letters written by Paul. Galatians is the only letter not containing a commendation. It is the only letter written by Paul that is addressed to more than one church.

    VII. THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BOOK OF GALATIANS:

    Galatians is a shorter version of Romans. Romans is considered the "Constitution of the Christian Faith." Galatians is considered to be the Declaration of Independence of the Christian Faith.

    VIII. SECTION OUTLINE OF THE BOOK OF GALATIANS:

    GALATIANS CHAPTERS 1-2 - The Defense of Paul's Ministry and Message

    GALATIANS CHAPTERS 3-4 - The Doctrine of Justification

    GALATIANS CHAPTERS 5-6 - The Doctrine of Sanctification

    I will post Ephesians tonight also. Blessings!
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    INTRODUCTION TO GALATIANS (Part 1):

    Paul said in Galatians 1:8-9 that if anybody preaches a gospel that is different than Paul's, let them be accursed. And we're going to see that applied to some false teachers that came into the area of Galatia.

    So, he sets himself up. Everyone is going to be judged according to Paul's gospel. It sounds rather arrogant. But at the same time, he has been chosen by God to reveal the mysteries of the church of Christ to the church.

    He's also connected to the Lord in that in Galatians 1:11-18, he said he did not receive his gospel through the teachings of man, but rather directly through Jesus Christ, as Christ revealed Himself to Paul as he was out in the Arabian Desert and back into Damascus which was right on the edge of what was called the Arabian Desert at that time.

    So, the Lord gave Paul the gospel. Therefore, the teachings of the Lord and the teachings of Paul should be the same. In fact, not only are they the same, but Paul's teachings amplify and explain and go into more detail than some of the teachings that Jesus gave in the gospels. And many times, that Jesus taught in the gospels, He didn't give the answer. He didn't tell what it means.

    So, we have to take it in context. And we have that safety valve because whatever conclusions we come up with as far as what Jesus is teaching in the gospels, we have about 63 years of teaching from Romans through Revelation of what they taught in the early church. And so, we can check our understanding to see if we understand that particular issue or teaching correctly. We just put it together.

    I. ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

    Paul - Again, his inscription is on all thirteen of his letters.

    II. TO WHOM IT WAS WRITTEN:

    To several churches in Asia Minor in the region of Galatia.
  • Barbamir69 - 1 year ago
    Looking for the books of Ecclesiasticus and Estred
  • Elliux2 - 1 year ago
    Please pray that I will be healed of all illness and disease.

    Your prayers are very much appreciated

    More than you know
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    1 What can wash away my sin?

    Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

    What can make me whole again?

    Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

    Refrain:

    O precious is the flow

    that makes me white as snow;

    no other fount I know;

    nothing but the blood of Jesus.

    2 For my pardon this I see:

    nothing but the blood of Jesus.

    For my cleansing this my plea:

    nothing but the blood of Jesus. [Refrain]

    3 Nothing can for sin atone:

    nothing but the blood of Jesus.

    Naught of good that I have done:

    nothing but the blood of Jesus. [Refrain]

    4 This is all my hope and peace:

    nothing but the blood of Jesus.

    This is all my righteousness:

    nothing but the blood of Jesus. [Refrain]

    Leviticus 17:11 Christ life was in His Blood

    In Christ the words Blood & Life are synonym

    1 John 2:6 2 Cor 2:15

    in love & truth
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi CJF,

    Godhead is a word that is in 3 verses in the KJV. Acts 17:29 Romans 1:20 and Colossians 2:9. Godhead comes from an Old English word godhede in 1200 AD. In Acts it is the Greek word theios that means divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature. In Romans, it is the Greek word theiots that means divinity, divine nature. In Colossians, it is the Greek word theots that mean deity, fulness of deity.

    These are three different Greek words that the translators chose to translate Godhead. You ask is the Godhead one God or three persons? Some use this word to refer to the doctrine of the Trinity but in the context of the chapters this word is used, does not refer to that.

    Godhead is God the Father himself, it pleased him to have all His divine fullness to dwell in His only begotten Son. The meaning for the word Godhead is the divine nature of God that was manifested in His only begotten Son, John 10:38 John 14:10.

    Your question is more about the doctrine of the Trinity I am sure others would reply on that.

    I hope this helps,

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you , yes , we are all of us ' works in progress' and brothers and sisters in Christ . I try to remember that every Christian I meet has their own personal relationship with God through Christ and we are all at different stages on our journey towards His Kingdom . We must not discourage each other along the way , I'm not the same Christian that I was even two years ago and I'm guessing that's true for most of us . We are learning and growing all the time and must respect each others journey and remember that others may be a bit behind us or a bit ahead of us . We are not in competition with each other and we should be uplifting encouraging and supporting each other along the way . This world is full of awful people who will drag us down and cause us all kinds of pain and sufferings , that shouldn't be how it is between fellow Christians . Jesus died for me , but not just for me , for you and you and you also , I must keep this in mind when posting to people on here . Jesus loves you and even if you get on my nerves sometimes I must must must love you also :) ! You are my brother or my sister , you belong to Christ and he wants you in his Father's Kingdom , so I must treat you with affection and kindness . For his sake we must be patient and kind to each other even if we believe that others are in some way in the wrong we must still be kind . As I said , we are all works in progress , none more than me :) .
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Deuteronomy 6:4 Ephesians 4:5 1 Timothy 2:5 Galatians 3:20 Rom 3:30 James 2:19 Luke 18:19
  • Texsis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes Mr. Davis, the devil Will give you things that will make you think you love Jesus & want to spread Gods word incorrectly. For he knows if he puffs you up, like a prosperity teacher, you'll be hot on fire for teaching as they do, UNbiblical.

    His spirit in us gives us peace that passes all understanding so we are not asshamed to seek to receive more of Him or sharing His true word.! So Never be scared to share scripture in fear of sounding smart. We are to guide ppl to trust in His word not our understanding.

    With brotherly live..Ok, lets get real-I exsperienced standing in a garage & I'm still not a car.! Even if ppl understand our ways, they may choose to believe otherwise. Freewill is a gift we all share. Cuz w/out Gods prospective hand, evil creeps in & we grow up the wrong vine & begin twisting His words causing one to stumble.

    If I were ever to cause someone to stray from Christ, I would pray to be more humbling so I don't open my mouth w/out my heart & I'd think twice so as not to loose my way missing the narrow road. Like, I recently learned I have the gift of prophetic dreams tho some think its of satan so I only share when a life is in danger. Not even then if Im not sure who it was to be shared with so as not to boast. For everyone sees Him w/Their own heart. The heart He gave us that grows in His time & for His purpose. Not relying on our own understanding cuz yur own flesh can & will deceive you.!

    When God allows you the ability to listen w/your heart you'll know what I mean. Till then, all the tongues in the world fall on deaf ears. We are merely to love God w/all our being & love and pray for others especially our enemy. Yet facts are facts & those are what to concern oneself with. Christ DBR should be our main focus so when He IS truly w/us, (not just a dream or exsperience making us proud yet Him making is wise), we'll know then how to truly guide others. God bless 'Texsis'.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good day, S. Spencer.

    Please go back and read my original reply to Jema. In it I said that he received these revelations straight from

    Christ when he was 3 years in the desert. This agrees with what you said in this reply.

    I said that Paul was intellectually gifted. You said he was brilliant. We agree on this.

    The difference here is that I believe that God used the natural talents He had created in Paul in His ministry once he was converted.

    You say that God used none of these natural talents after conversion.

    So, we disagree on this matter. That's o.k.

    The rest of what you posted about me was unnecessary and demeaning of my character. You do not know my mind or heart when I was replying to you. Only God does. I submit to the Holy Spirit as you do. So, I take offense at you presuming to know my mind and heart and for slandering me on this forum.

    But I do forgive you and love you in Christ. We both know that love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:8

    Let's move on from this thread. It would be best to do so.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Gigi.

    Where we had differences is when you said you disagree with me and said, Paul was a very intelligent man prior to his conversion with many skills and abilities THAT GOD USED AFTER HIS CONVERSION.

    We both agree he was an intelligent man.

    But my original answer to Gema Question "where did Paul get this specific information from at that time ? I guess Paul was wise for his time.

    My answer was he Got it from Christ, But would only understand the things of God by the Holyspirit.

    His Wordly wisdom that he possessed knew not the things of God.

    God set aside his intellect and spoke plainly so it wouldn't affect the work of God.

    Paul said let him that Glory Glory in the Lord.

    "The minute we put our eyes on the minister we take our eyes off the Lord.

    This is a big deal in the Church today.

    God bless.
  • Cthorge01 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Praying with you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Jema.

    We make up ONE body, and correction is supposed to be for help. God administered "the gift" to the Church.

    We had nothing to bring to it!

    We need to understand what Lord means to us.

    What is he Lord over? Our lives, We live for him as he lives IN US.

    And how do he Lord over our lives?

    By his Spirit!

    We're not ready for ministry until we receive Jesus.

    God stands outside of time and he knows who will come to him.

    God's preparation for that person may start early.

    But once that preparation is displayed where the rubber meets the road, It will glorify God, Not that Person/Vessel.

    By the way;

    I made a few mistakes in my last post!

    Where I said "I consider myself to be a very smart man but that didn't but sickness did.

    Somehow I left out a word or two and never proof read this and went right on to bed.

    I meant to say, I consider myself to be a very smart man but that didn't cause any Spitual growth in my life.

    but sickness did.

    When I got sick I got serious and Christ strengthened me!

    When I was made weak, I became strong! It's a testimony hard to believe but I believe it was just for me and me only. Not one to share.

    When I retired my two small businesses, I began to grow spiritually and like most of us, I have a long way to go.

    Before then I got in the way of myself.

    We start out as empty vessels!

    We need the filling of the Holyspirit and The word of God every step of the way.

    When one emphasize in their doctrine there is no need for the Holyspirit as if they have already been supernaturally gifted with worldly wisdom, they're actually saying there is no need for God!!

    And next you will see glory seeking and pride in their walk.

    We're sowing to the flesh!

    our ability to do good in our own power with our bodies, is poisoned with sin. It can't grow the good crop of righteousness and eternal life.

    We've all been guilty of this I sure.

    It's a life time struggle to get rid of pride.

    This is a very important topic.

    Back to work.

    GB


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