Concerning what works are accepted of God, and what works are not accepted brought forth by the Creature.
Whatsoever work man is moved and led unto by the Spirit of God, and guided and ruled in the practice of, to speak or act whatsoever by the same Spirit (which moves and leads into all the works of righteousness, and not into any evil) this is acceptable in the sight of the Lord, and these works are well pleasing to him: where the Lord goes before, and is the leader in all things, and this man and his works who is led with the Spirit of the Father is justified and accepted of God, and not for the creatures sake, who respects not the person of any but for his own Name sake, because they are wrought in him through faith, and is moved unto, and guided in by his own Spirit, and they arise from Gods righteousness revealed in the creature, and not from the righteousness of the creature, for man being changed and replanted into the living Vine, and the root being good, every work which springiest forth from it is good also, and accepted of God, because the root is so: But whatsoever works are brought forth by any creature, though the same in appearance which are accepted of God from another, yet not being moved unto
and accepted of God, because the root is so: But whatsoever works are brought forth by any creature, though the same in appearance which are accepted of God from another, yet not being moved unto, nor guided in by the Spirit of the Father, but brought forth in the will and wisdom of the creature, which is from below, and acted in imitation from the Saints words; these works are not accepted and well pleasing unto God, but is offence unto him, and sin against him, even the sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination unto him, and if a man come before the Lord with thousands of Rams, and ten thousand of Rivers of Oils, and if he give the fruit of his body for the sin of the soul, and cover the Altar with tears, and is not led with a measure of Gods Spirit, none of all these works are accepted; nor his preaching, praying baptism, nor breaking of bread, nor any other observances towards God whatsoever, are not good in his sight but evil, and to be contented, and the root from whence they spring; because man is in the enmity against him, and not changed out of the old root, nor in that state is not led with the holy Spirit of the Father; and the root being bad, the branches are evil, and none are accepted of God in any thing which they perform towards him, but such as are in Christ Jesus, the second Adam, and such are new creatures, so that it is not for the creatures sake that any work is accepted of, or offence against God, but only for his Name sake, and because of being guided, or not of being guided with the measure of Gods pure Spirit: Therefore is man and his works good and accepted; or evil and not regarded, but condemned of God.
It's good to hear from you Richard , I was worried because you have been absent from us for a while . I pray that God will grant you a speedy and full recovery , I pray that God will continue to strengthen and sustain you , physically ,mentally , emotionally and spiritually . Much love in Christ .
Many thanks GiGi, Nice to know that someone is thinking of me. Although I haven't been as active lately. I am every day on the prayer side. When you are too busy and hectic, you don't forget the Lord Jesus. But there will be less profit To share a word, witness unfortunately, it feels empty when it is like that.
I am still somehow being spiritually attacked in my sleep. Went through some strange dreams-since this is a public platform probably better not to get into it. One of them though was associated with the fifth trumpet and I dream often about telling others about the Tribulation and preparing for the Rapture.
Since I had about 6 people contact me from my church I am confident the Lord is going to work mightily there in time; as to my own walk matures perhaps I am in an intense season of testing.
You are certainly appreciated; only the Lord can ultimately console me in these valleys. Trying to put into words some of this stuff is hard. It did seem there was literally a Satanist near my room at thehospital as well as other strange goings on. Still the Lord revealed to me a couple Christians as it seems if someone is a believer I just ask and get a positive response.
The enemy has tried as hard as he can to continue to have me love myself and the world but I have resisted things for quite some time so apparently he is angry.
That's it for now. I guess all this helps me to focus on what I say but saddens me that it seems I am still lost sometimes; I don't have dreams of anything of the Lord it seems. I have gotten pretty adept when for instance I dream of some beautiful woman not to be drawn in and enticed; the mind of Christ thankfully taking command over the flesh.
SOrry don't want to be too long here. It is almost laughable to me how some act like our state ( Jer. 17:9) isn't utterly hopeless without Christ. We need to trust God that whatever He has no matter how uninteresting it seems compared to the enemies bait is indeed worthwhile and joyful in the end.
Anyway hopefully I will have worthy; not worthless words in further commentaries and live by example.
Hi, Yes, I understand translation differences. Cling vs touch are similar, however I believe he could ascend at will and was not subject to time restrictions as he walked by power from the grave.
I don't see where the verses you referenced conflict in any way with what I said or the verses I quoted.
If God has "saved" us, i.e. we have become Born Again, we will ENDURE TO THE END. We will have an earnest ongoing desire to be obedient to the Law of God and we will more and more turn away from sin in our life; not in order that God will "save" us, but because we have a "want to" in our Soul to obey Him.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Then God will COMPLETE our Salvation at the Last Day when we receive our Resurrected Spiritual Bodies.
Here are some other verses for your consideration:
John 3:3-8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
The spirit is what goes to be with God, the soul goes to the grave.
Heb 4:12 Tells us "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the ((dividing)) asunder ((of soul and spirit)), and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart".
The word (dividing) is #3311; it means a separation, to part, to disunite, differ, difference between.
This clearly tells us the soul and spirit will be separated, disunited, there is difference between them.
The spirit goes to be with God who gave it (Eccle 12:7) ( 2 Cor 5:8) This spirit is what Christ brings back with Him in ( 1 Thess 4:14)
The soul goes to the grave ( Ps 44:25) ( Ps 49:15) ( Ps 89:48) and in ( Acts 2:27) The word (hell) in this verse is #86; it means the place or state of departed souls.
The soul will rise from the grave at the return of Christ to meet the Lord in the air ( Jn 5:28-29) ( 1 Thess 4:13-17) and be reunited with the spirit that returns with Christ.
This is not my opinion David but it is the truth from Scripture.
If this is not Biblically correct then please show where it is not correct. If it is correct then please accept it as it is the Truth.
We should all see truth when presented with truth, IF we are being led by the Holy Spirit, Right?
I do not mean to offend anyone, but we are very quickly running out of time.
Hello, Richard, so sorry that appendicitis was the cause of your ailments, but thankful that you checked yourself in at the hospital to have it treated in a timely way. It can be deadly if not treated and also a blocked bowel can also be deadly or else one could lose the bowel below the blockage and end up with a colostomy bag. So, I am thankful that your surgery went well and you are on the mend. It is normal after major abdominal surgery to not lift anything past 5-10 lbs. for 6 weeks. it's amazing how much we use our core abdominal muscles for so much of the activities we do without even thinking: balance, sitting and standing up from a sit, standing and walking, turning over in bed, etc. Take it easy my friend.
I am so glad you brought this situation to us for prayer.
When one is hospitalized one gets a real picture of all that the staff need to do for patients everyday round the clock, working long shifts of 10-12 hours. Nurse and nurse's assistants do so much for patient care. And the skill and expertise of doctors is valuable. I, for one, am not afraid of medical treatments because I know that there are so many things that can go wrong with our bodies that need such care. The errors of the medical staff are small in comparison to what can go wrong with our bodies all by itself.
You were in the hospital 10-11 days.
That's a long time! Bet it feels good to be home finally even if you are still somewhat weak. I pray that you will have someone over to help you with some tasks. Be careful and sensible in your recovery, Richard, and I will pray that you recover well and heal without any troubles. You've had enough trouble in this episode for sure.
Concerning Faith, this testimony I give unto the World.
Faith is the gift of God, and by it Christ is received and enjoyed; it is the substance of things hoped for, and the very evidence of things not seen, gives the creature to believe God in all what he hath promised, all that which is acted and spoken in it, is well pleasing unto God, and that which is done without sin; it is the strength of the creature to act for God, in all things it is that whereby the world is overcome, and all the powers of hell and death, it is the armor against the Devil, and the defense of all the children of God, by it they overcome all their enemies, and through it they reign over all the world, it carries through all sufferings and tribulations with joy and patience: Faith is an act of God in the creature, through it peace and righteousness and the crown of life is received from God, by Faith all things are received that are received of God by any of his children: He that hath Faith sees and feels the Lords presence at all times, and through Faith we do and suffer gladly for the name of Christ in all things, and this is thus far our testimony given by the Spirit of the Father, of these things of which we have received the knowledge from God, who hath given us his treasure, and we have this treasure in earthen vessels, even the knowledge of these things which are eternal, which is not our own, but the Lords to give forth according to his moving's, and of those things have we handled, tasted and felt.
Concerning the new Covenant, and how man comes to the knowledge of God, this testimony I give.
The Covenant of God is unity betwixt God and man, and a binding each to other to serve each other, the one is bound to obey, and submit, and worship; and the other to blesse, and keep, and lead, and preserve; this Covenant is established with his own seed for ever, and there is no teacher but God, all is taught of him, from the least to the greatest, who are in this Covenant, his just Law is written in their heart to condemn all transgression, and his pure Spirit is put into the inward parts, to be the rule and guide of life in all things, and none need to say know the Lord, but all knows him in the Spirit, and worships him, and obeys him, and follows him in spirit, and in truth, and such are come into peace and reconciliation and God and the Covenant with Hell and death is broken: and in this Covenant, there is no Priest nor offering but Christ Jesus the high Priest of God, the one offering for sin, he takes away sin and makes intercession, and in it is no temple, but our bodies are the temple of God, and he dwells in us, and walks in us, and there is no circumcision but the circumcision of the heart, which is the putting away of all the uncleanness of the flesh, nor in it there is no means of salvation but Christ the only way the truth and the life, and none comes to the Father but by him, he declares of the Father and there is no light but the light of the Lamb, all that are saved shall walk in the light of the Lamb, and there shall be no need of any other light, no need of the light of the Sun, nor of the Moon, nor of a candle, but the Lord is unto them an everlasting
light, and God alone is their glory, and this Covenant is for ever, and cannot alter nor change, but is sure unto the seed of his own inheritance, but he that is born of the flesh hath no part in it, who is shut out from the knowledge of God, who is not known to the wisdom of this World, which is foolishness' with God; and the knowledge of God is received no other way but only by the revelation of Jesus Christ, and by the working of the Spirit of the Father in the heart, he opens the blind eye, and unstops the deaf ear, and changes the heart, and causes it to understand, and he removes that which hath stood in the way betwixt God and the creature, which hath caused ignorance in the creature, that the Lord could not be seen nor perceived. Christ Jesus the second Adam lighteth every man and all mankind that cometh into the world with the true light, but some hates the light, and they will not come to the light, least their deeds should be reproved, and their deeds are evil, and they are in a condemned estate, and such cannot receive Christ nor the knowledge of God, but such who love the light with which Christ hath enlightened them, they bring all their deeds to the light, and walks in the light, and their deeds are wrought in God never to be condemned, and such as loves the light receives Christ and the knowledge of God, which is eternal life, and none comes to the knowledge of God, and of Christ any other way but through the light of Christ, and by the operation of the Spirit of God, and evil is condemned out of the heart, and the heart is made clean by the word of God, and the knowledge of God is received into the clean heart, and nor into the impure, for without holiness none shall see God; nor ever come to the knowledge of him, neither can the knowledge of God be received by the traditions of men or any outward observance in the will of man, but only by the teachings of the eternal Spirit, is the living God known in the creature
Concerning all creatures that God made, this testimony I give unto all the World.
ALL creatures that God made in their creation and beginning was very good in his sight that made them, and unto man that was to use them, and no creature was evil or defiled in its creation, but mankind transgressing against his Maker, he became evil, and did evil in the sight of the Lord, and he being possessed with evil and corrupted, he makes all creatures evil in his exercise of them, and he corrupts them and perverts them to another end than wherefore they were created, and by the creatures, dishonors the Creator, who should have honored him by them, and they are become a curse unto man and not a blessing, though in themselves are neither cursed, nor evil, nor defiled, but is become so unto man, because of his transgression and disobedience; for he being in the curse and defiled, all things are so unto him, and in his exercise of them he is wicked, abusing them upon the lust to satisfy his devilish mind, and ruling over them in oppression and cruelty, and hard heartedness, and not in the wisdom of
God as he ought, and he subverts them out from their pure virtue, feeding his lust in pride and voluptuousness, with that which should keep him from hunger and nakedness', and so pleasing the lust in all things more than satisfying pure nature, and this ought not to be, for it is out of the covenant of God, in which all creatures was made, and in which they stand, except the creature man, who is degenerated out of Gods covenant, and subverts all things to his own end, and not unto the glory of God, while he continues in that state unreconciled to God, but man being restored, and redeemed, and renewed again into covenant with God, through the condemning of the evil, then all creatures to him are restored, and made blessed, the curse being removed out of his own heart, the creatures are no longer cursed to him, but good and decent, and enjoyed, and received in the covenant of God in the life and virtue by which they were created, and by the wisdom which they were made, man comes to order them, and exercise himself in them, and no more are they spent upon the lust, nor on the vain mind, nor ruled over in oppression, but all that is condemned, and all creatures are seen to be the Lords, and the whole earth is his and the fullness thereof, and the abuse of all creatures is ceased, and they are enjoyed in their pure virtue to feed and to cloth the creature, and not to be destroyed upon the lust, but for the health's-sake are they used to the glory of the Creator, and unto the end wherefore he created them, and are pure as they were in the beginning; and the blessing is felt which is more than all creatures.
>The Bible is very clear that when Christ applies His Salvation to one of His Elect and they become "saved", they become Born Again, they are given ETERNAL LIFE at that moment.
I agree with the sleep until Jesus comes, because that's what the Bible says.
However, are these verses that say we'll not be saved now but later conflict with your view?
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
IN THE LAST TIME, not NOW.
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
THE END
Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
DOES NOT SAY HE THAT ENDURE NOW, IS SAVED NOW. IT SAYS UNTO THE END, WHICH MEANS THE END, NOT NOW.
Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
PATIENCE. IF YOURE SAVED NOW WHY NEED PATIENCE. YE "MIGHT" RECEIVE.. ITS CONDITIONAL.
Above are 4 verses saying we're saved later, not now. Can you find 4 or more verses that say we're saved now and not later?
Chap 14 A Standard lifted up & an Ensign unto all Nations
Concerning the Devil and Damnation, this testimony I give to all people.
There is a Devil which is out of the truth, who abode not in the truth but is a liar from the beginning, and the father of all evil and evil doing, and the author of all unrighteousness, and whatsoever is contrary to God in thought, word, and action, he is the enmity against God and against all good, and by his power subverts creatures and things to another end than wherefore they were created, even to the dishonor of the Creator, he is the god of this world, the Prince of darkness, and he rules King in all the children's of the first Adam, who are in evil: he was the cause of the first transgression, and is the cause of disobedience to God to this day in all people, who are led by him, moving all them to envy, wrath, pride, whoredom, drunkenness', theft, and murder, and all the works of darkness, sin, and death, he is the fountain and root of all these, and the leader and ruler in the exercise of them, and of every evil word and work whatsoever which are contrary to God, he abode not in the truth, and he hath led all mankind out of truth into all deceit and unrighteousness, and into every evil way, and he dwells in darkness, and inhabits in thick darkness, and is out of the light, and is separate from the presence of God for ever bound in chains of darkness and ignorance, and unbelief and he hath power in the earthly part of man, and a law in the members, and he possesses him that is born
Chap 14 A Standard lifted up & an Ensign unto all Nations
of the flesh, & his covenant is with him who is not born of the seed of God, who cannot sin, such are in covenant with God, and renewed into his image, but such as are not, hath the Devil power in to captivate and lead their minds into vanity, and their affections and desires into all that which is evil, by which the Spirit of God the Creator of all things is grieved and his soul vexed, and all murder and deceitful works of the world; and all whatsoever is contrary to God in words, thoughts, or actions, is of the Devil that wicked one, and from him and all that follow his moving, and worketh evil thereby, they serve him and obey him, he is their God and their King, and they are his people, and his subjects, he is their father, and they are his children, he is their root, and they are his off-spring, and brings forth fruit unto him, and serves and worships him, and not the true God that made all things, and all such must be cast into utter darkness with him, and shall have their portion with him in the bottomless pit of darkness' for ever and ever, where there is no end of woe, and sorrow, and misery, for in the anger of God there the worm dies nor, nor the fire is not quenched, and out of that there is no redemption for the unclean; and all such who are led of him, who is out of the truth and in evil, are judged, and condemned, and damned by him, who is the Truth, who judged righteously; and as he hath not ceased to work evil, and to draw the children of men into evil, for he continually tempted to lead from God into rebellion against him. And they that are led by him are destroyed, and he shall not cease to sorrow, woe, and misery for ever, as he hath not ceased to work evil, he lived and moves in the anger of God, his beginning was in it, and all his works are in it, and it shall be the reward of him, and all that obey him in the separation from Gods everlasting presence, for ever and ever.
The "touch me not" comment, was actually more along the lines of " don't detain me, or don't cling to me and hold me up, one of the many "translation" dilemmas we encounter.
To GIGI and anyone else praying for me; I just was released after admitting myself for Appendicitis Aug 11 today. The intense spiritual stuff going on in my subconscious and real life as well certainly made prayers appreciated.
I thought it would be prudent here to mention that many have indeed great caution with any medical establishments such as my friend that left the same hospital after he got some special treatment for COVID and after they told him he wouldn't survive it.
Certain places indeed have been so bad with either getting the wrong patient with ID mixed up and other terrible standards that I can see the reason for skepticism. Clearly in my case I needed the treatment I got; mainly afterwards to clear out the blocked colon. There were a few things I think were somewhat improperly done; but overall I have a newfound respect for the nurses in particular who have to juggle between many patients and remember all the details of the job; as well as must be there all hours to fill in; etc. Several individuals were Christians where I was; between one of the young medical student trainees who was willing to walk me as well as one patient and someone else who I asked sensing that they were a godly woman.
Mercifully my insurance covers enough so that I can get through payment (my parents will help). I am asking in prayer that my workplace can accommodate a few weeks without heavy lifting; not exactly sure deadline but one doctor said 6 weeks; when the surgeon has a follow up appointment he will discuss those things; that is my only restraint. I am sadly going to take a respite from by 2 Bible Studies for a month as well; the groups are quite small but people have great interest.
Looks like one or two folks have done some extended studies on this site when I was gone. Primarily understanding my own selfish nature after being hooked up to tubes and IV lines I realize that Christ alone is good in me. ( Jeremiah 17:9).
The Bible is very clear that when Christ applies His Salvation to one of His Elect and they become "saved", they become Born Again, they are given ETERNAL LIFE at that moment. This occurs in their Soul, which then can NEVER DIE. But their Body has not yet become "saved" and will die.
So when the True Believer dies, their Body goes into the grave and corrupts; and must wait the Last Day to be Resurrected a Spiritual Body. But in their Soul, they go immediately to be with Christ in Heaven.
2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at HOME in the body, we are ABSENT from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be ABSENT from the body, and to be PRESENT with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the COMING of our Lord Jesus Christ WITH ALL HIS SAINTS.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-16 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God BRING WITH HIM. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Jude 1:14,15 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, THE LORD COMETH WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINTS, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Thank you, that may very well be what Jesus did and the reason Mary could not touch Him. It goes along with what we are told what Jesus did in Hebrews, whether it was when He first ascended or 40 days later when He ascended on a cloud. It may be one of those things we will not know for sure.
My thoughts were on the feasts Jesus fulfilled, the Passover, the Sacrificial Lamb, the feast of Unleavened Bread, His perfect life with no sin/leaven, and the Feast of First Fruits, the first fruits/firstborn of the dead, and 50 days later the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost with the giving of the Spirit.
Thank you very much sweet Blessed90. I was ready to quit, but by reaching out to my brothers and sisters in Christ it has been of great inspiration for me. I will read out loud healing versus two/three times a day. I pray our Lord Jesus Christ bless you with a 100% healthy body, dear Blessed 90.
18 A Standard lifted up
Concerning what works are accepted of God, and what works are not accepted brought forth by the Creature.
Whatsoever work man is moved and led unto by the Spirit of God, and guided and ruled in the practice of, to speak or act whatsoever by the same Spirit (which moves and leads into all the works of righteousness, and not into any evil) this is acceptable in the sight of the Lord, and these works are well pleasing to him: where the Lord goes before, and is the leader in all things, and this man and his works who is led with the Spirit of the Father is justified and accepted of God, and not for the creatures sake, who respects not the person of any but for his own Name sake, because they are wrought in him through faith, and is moved unto, and guided in by his own Spirit, and they arise from Gods righteousness revealed in the creature, and not from the righteousness of the creature, for man being changed and replanted into the living Vine, and the root being good, every work which springiest forth from it is good also, and accepted of God, because the root is so: But whatsoever works are brought forth by any creature, though the same in appearance which are accepted of God from another, yet not being moved unto
and accepted of God, because the root is so: But whatsoever works are brought forth by any creature, though the same in appearance which are accepted of God from another, yet not being moved unto, nor guided in by the Spirit of the Father, but brought forth in the will and wisdom of the creature, which is from below, and acted in imitation from the Saints words; these works are not accepted and well pleasing unto God, but is offence unto him, and sin against him, even the sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination unto him, and if a man come before the Lord with thousands of Rams, and ten thousand of Rivers of Oils, and if he give the fruit of his body for the sin of the soul, and cover the Altar with tears, and is not led with a measure of Gods Spirit, none of all these works are accepted; nor his preaching, praying baptism, nor breaking of bread, nor any other observances towards God whatsoever, are not good in his sight but evil, and to be contented, and the root from whence they spring; because man is in the enmity against him, and not changed out of the old root, nor in that state is not led with the holy Spirit of the Father; and the root being bad, the branches are evil, and none are accepted of God in any thing which they perform towards him, but such as are in Christ Jesus, the second Adam, and such are new creatures, so that it is not for the creatures sake that any work is accepted of, or offence against God, but only for his Name sake, and because of being guided, or not of being guided with the measure of Gods pure Spirit: Therefore is man and his works good and accepted; or evil and not regarded, but condemned of God.
Romans 1. Love you all
Since I had about 6 people contact me from my church I am confident the Lord is going to work mightily there in time; as to my own walk matures perhaps I am in an intense season of testing.
You are certainly appreciated; only the Lord can ultimately console me in these valleys. Trying to put into words some of this stuff is hard. It did seem there was literally a Satanist near my room at thehospital as well as other strange goings on. Still the Lord revealed to me a couple Christians as it seems if someone is a believer I just ask and get a positive response.
The enemy has tried as hard as he can to continue to have me love myself and the world but I have resisted things for quite some time so apparently he is angry.
That's it for now. I guess all this helps me to focus on what I say but saddens me that it seems I am still lost sometimes; I don't have dreams of anything of the Lord it seems. I have gotten pretty adept when for instance I dream of some beautiful woman not to be drawn in and enticed; the mind of Christ thankfully taking command over the flesh.
SOrry don't want to be too long here. It is almost laughable to me how some act like our state ( Jer. 17:9) isn't utterly hopeless without Christ. We need to trust God that whatever He has no matter how uninteresting it seems compared to the enemies bait is indeed worthwhile and joyful in the end.
Anyway hopefully I will have worthy; not worthless words in further commentaries and live by example.
Agape; Rich P
I don't see where the verses you referenced conflict in any way with what I said or the verses I quoted.
If God has "saved" us, i.e. we have become Born Again, we will ENDURE TO THE END. We will have an earnest ongoing desire to be obedient to the Law of God and we will more and more turn away from sin in our life; not in order that God will "save" us, but because we have a "want to" in our Soul to obey Him.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Then God will COMPLETE our Salvation at the Last Day when we receive our Resurrected Spiritual Bodies.
Here are some other verses for your consideration:
John 3:3-8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
The soul and spirit are separated at death!
The spirit is what goes to be with God, the soul goes to the grave.
Heb 4:12 Tells us "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the ((dividing)) asunder ((of soul and spirit)), and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart".
The word (dividing) is #3311; it means a separation, to part, to disunite, differ, difference between.
This clearly tells us the soul and spirit will be separated, disunited, there is difference between them.
The spirit goes to be with God who gave it (Eccle 12:7) ( 2 Cor 5:8) This spirit is what Christ brings back with Him in ( 1 Thess 4:14)
The soul goes to the grave ( Ps 44:25) ( Ps 49:15) ( Ps 89:48) and in ( Acts 2:27) The word (hell) in this verse is #86; it means the place or state of departed souls.
The soul will rise from the grave at the return of Christ to meet the Lord in the air ( Jn 5:28-29) ( 1 Thess 4:13-17) and be reunited with the spirit that returns with Christ.
This is not my opinion David but it is the truth from Scripture.
If this is not Biblically correct then please show where it is not correct. If it is correct then please accept it as it is the Truth.
We should all see truth when presented with truth, IF we are being led by the Holy Spirit, Right?
I do not mean to offend anyone, but we are very quickly running out of time.
The Truth matters!
Blessings to you and all who seek His Truth!
I too have prayed for you and your family. It is always good to hear from you, Free.
I am so glad you brought this situation to us for prayer.
When one is hospitalized one gets a real picture of all that the staff need to do for patients everyday round the clock, working long shifts of 10-12 hours. Nurse and nurse's assistants do so much for patient care. And the skill and expertise of doctors is valuable. I, for one, am not afraid of medical treatments because I know that there are so many things that can go wrong with our bodies that need such care. The errors of the medical staff are small in comparison to what can go wrong with our bodies all by itself.
You were in the hospital 10-11 days.
That's a long time! Bet it feels good to be home finally even if you are still somewhat weak. I pray that you will have someone over to help you with some tasks. Be careful and sensible in your recovery, Richard, and I will pray that you recover well and heal without any troubles. You've had enough trouble in this episode for sure.
Thanks for the update. Much love brother.
Concerning Faith, this testimony I give unto the World.
Faith is the gift of God, and by it Christ is received and enjoyed; it is the substance of things hoped for, and the very evidence of things not seen, gives the creature to believe God in all what he hath promised, all that which is acted and spoken in it, is well pleasing unto God, and that which is done without sin; it is the strength of the creature to act for God, in all things it is that whereby the world is overcome, and all the powers of hell and death, it is the armor against the Devil, and the defense of all the children of God, by it they overcome all their enemies, and through it they reign over all the world, it carries through all sufferings and tribulations with joy and patience: Faith is an act of God in the creature, through it peace and righteousness and the crown of life is received from God, by Faith all things are received that are received of God by any of his children: He that hath Faith sees and feels the Lords presence at all times, and through Faith we do and suffer gladly for the name of Christ in all things, and this is thus far our testimony given by the Spirit of the Father, of these things of which we have received the knowledge from God, who hath given us his treasure, and we have this treasure in earthen vessels, even the knowledge of these things which are eternal, which is not our own, but the Lords to give forth according to his moving's, and of those things have we handled, tasted and felt.
Concerning the new Covenant, and how man comes to the knowledge of God, this testimony I give.
The Covenant of God is unity betwixt God and man, and a binding each to other to serve each other, the one is bound to obey, and submit, and worship; and the other to blesse, and keep, and lead, and preserve; this Covenant is established with his own seed for ever, and there is no teacher but God, all is taught of him, from the least to the greatest, who are in this Covenant, his just Law is written in their heart to condemn all transgression, and his pure Spirit is put into the inward parts, to be the rule and guide of life in all things, and none need to say know the Lord, but all knows him in the Spirit, and worships him, and obeys him, and follows him in spirit, and in truth, and such are come into peace and reconciliation and God and the Covenant with Hell and death is broken: and in this Covenant, there is no Priest nor offering but Christ Jesus the high Priest of God, the one offering for sin, he takes away sin and makes intercession, and in it is no temple, but our bodies are the temple of God, and he dwells in us, and walks in us, and there is no circumcision but the circumcision of the heart, which is the putting away of all the uncleanness of the flesh, nor in it there is no means of salvation but Christ the only way the truth and the life, and none comes to the Father but by him, he declares of the Father and there is no light but the light of the Lamb, all that are saved shall walk in the light of the Lamb, and there shall be no need of any other light, no need of the light of the Sun, nor of the Moon, nor of a candle, but the Lord is unto them an everlasting
light, and God alone is their glory, and this Covenant is for ever, and cannot alter nor change, but is sure unto the seed of his own inheritance, but he that is born of the flesh hath no part in it, who is shut out from the knowledge of God, who is not known to the wisdom of this World, which is foolishness' with God; and the knowledge of God is received no other way but only by the revelation of Jesus Christ, and by the working of the Spirit of the Father in the heart, he opens the blind eye, and unstops the deaf ear, and changes the heart, and causes it to understand, and he removes that which hath stood in the way betwixt God and the creature, which hath caused ignorance in the creature, that the Lord could not be seen nor perceived. Christ Jesus the second Adam lighteth every man and all mankind that cometh into the world with the true light, but some hates the light, and they will not come to the light, least their deeds should be reproved, and their deeds are evil, and they are in a condemned estate, and such cannot receive Christ nor the knowledge of God, but such who love the light with which Christ hath enlightened them, they bring all their deeds to the light, and walks in the light, and their deeds are wrought in God never to be condemned, and such as loves the light receives Christ and the knowledge of God, which is eternal life, and none comes to the knowledge of God, and of Christ any other way but through the light of Christ, and by the operation of the Spirit of God, and evil is condemned out of the heart, and the heart is made clean by the word of God, and the knowledge of God is received into the clean heart, and nor into the impure, for without holiness none shall see God; nor ever come to the knowledge of him, neither can the knowledge of God be received by the traditions of men or any outward observance in the will of man, but only by the teachings of the eternal Spirit, is the living God known in the creature
Concerning all creatures that God made, this testimony I give unto all the World.
ALL creatures that God made in their creation and beginning was very good in his sight that made them, and unto man that was to use them, and no creature was evil or defiled in its creation, but mankind transgressing against his Maker, he became evil, and did evil in the sight of the Lord, and he being possessed with evil and corrupted, he makes all creatures evil in his exercise of them, and he corrupts them and perverts them to another end than wherefore they were created, and by the creatures, dishonors the Creator, who should have honored him by them, and they are become a curse unto man and not a blessing, though in themselves are neither cursed, nor evil, nor defiled, but is become so unto man, because of his transgression and disobedience; for he being in the curse and defiled, all things are so unto him, and in his exercise of them he is wicked, abusing them upon the lust to satisfy his devilish mind, and ruling over them in oppression and cruelty, and hard heartedness, and not in the wisdom of
God as he ought, and he subverts them out from their pure virtue, feeding his lust in pride and voluptuousness, with that which should keep him from hunger and nakedness', and so pleasing the lust in all things more than satisfying pure nature, and this ought not to be, for it is out of the covenant of God, in which all creatures was made, and in which they stand, except the creature man, who is degenerated out of Gods covenant, and subverts all things to his own end, and not unto the glory of God, while he continues in that state unreconciled to God, but man being restored, and redeemed, and renewed again into covenant with God, through the condemning of the evil, then all creatures to him are restored, and made blessed, the curse being removed out of his own heart, the creatures are no longer cursed to him, but good and decent, and enjoyed, and received in the covenant of God in the life and virtue by which they were created, and by the wisdom which they were made, man comes to order them, and exercise himself in them, and no more are they spent upon the lust, nor on the vain mind, nor ruled over in oppression, but all that is condemned, and all creatures are seen to be the Lords, and the whole earth is his and the fullness thereof, and the abuse of all creatures is ceased, and they are enjoyed in their pure virtue to feed and to cloth the creature, and not to be destroyed upon the lust, but for the health's-sake are they used to the glory of the Creator, and unto the end wherefore he created them, and are pure as they were in the beginning; and the blessing is felt which is more than all creatures.
I agree with the sleep until Jesus comes, because that's what the Bible says.
However, are these verses that say we'll not be saved now but later conflict with your view?
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
IN THE LAST TIME, not NOW.
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
THE END
Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
DOES NOT SAY HE THAT ENDURE NOW, IS SAVED NOW. IT SAYS UNTO THE END, WHICH MEANS THE END, NOT NOW.
Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
PATIENCE. IF YOURE SAVED NOW WHY NEED PATIENCE. YE "MIGHT" RECEIVE.. ITS CONDITIONAL.
Above are 4 verses saying we're saved later, not now. Can you find 4 or more verses that say we're saved now and not later?
Chap 14 A Standard lifted up & an Ensign unto all Nations
Concerning the Devil and Damnation, this testimony I give to all people.
There is a Devil which is out of the truth, who abode not in the truth but is a liar from the beginning, and the father of all evil and evil doing, and the author of all unrighteousness, and whatsoever is contrary to God in thought, word, and action, he is the enmity against God and against all good, and by his power subverts creatures and things to another end than wherefore they were created, even to the dishonor of the Creator, he is the god of this world, the Prince of darkness, and he rules King in all the children's of the first Adam, who are in evil: he was the cause of the first transgression, and is the cause of disobedience to God to this day in all people, who are led by him, moving all them to envy, wrath, pride, whoredom, drunkenness', theft, and murder, and all the works of darkness, sin, and death, he is the fountain and root of all these, and the leader and ruler in the exercise of them, and of every evil word and work whatsoever which are contrary to God, he abode not in the truth, and he hath led all mankind out of truth into all deceit and unrighteousness, and into every evil way, and he dwells in darkness, and inhabits in thick darkness, and is out of the light, and is separate from the presence of God for ever bound in chains of darkness and ignorance, and unbelief and he hath power in the earthly part of man, and a law in the members, and he possesses him that is born
Chap 14 A Standard lifted up & an Ensign unto all Nations
of the flesh, & his covenant is with him who is not born of the seed of God, who cannot sin, such are in covenant with God, and renewed into his image, but such as are not, hath the Devil power in to captivate and lead their minds into vanity, and their affections and desires into all that which is evil, by which the Spirit of God the Creator of all things is grieved and his soul vexed, and all murder and deceitful works of the world; and all whatsoever is contrary to God in words, thoughts, or actions, is of the Devil that wicked one, and from him and all that follow his moving, and worketh evil thereby, they serve him and obey him, he is their God and their King, and they are his people, and his subjects, he is their father, and they are his children, he is their root, and they are his off-spring, and brings forth fruit unto him, and serves and worships him, and not the true God that made all things, and all such must be cast into utter darkness with him, and shall have their portion with him in the bottomless pit of darkness' for ever and ever, where there is no end of woe, and sorrow, and misery, for in the anger of God there the worm dies nor, nor the fire is not quenched, and out of that there is no redemption for the unclean; and all such who are led of him, who is out of the truth and in evil, are judged, and condemned, and damned by him, who is the Truth, who judged righteously; and as he hath not ceased to work evil, and to draw the children of men into evil, for he continually tempted to lead from God into rebellion against him. And they that are led by him are destroyed, and he shall not cease to sorrow, woe, and misery for ever, as he hath not ceased to work evil, he lived and moves in the anger of God, his beginning was in it, and all his works are in it, and it shall be the reward of him, and all that obey him in the separation from Gods everlasting presence, for ever and ever.
To GIGI and anyone else praying for me; I just was released after admitting myself for Appendicitis Aug 11 today. The intense spiritual stuff going on in my subconscious and real life as well certainly made prayers appreciated.
I thought it would be prudent here to mention that many have indeed great caution with any medical establishments such as my friend that left the same hospital after he got some special treatment for COVID and after they told him he wouldn't survive it.
Certain places indeed have been so bad with either getting the wrong patient with ID mixed up and other terrible standards that I can see the reason for skepticism. Clearly in my case I needed the treatment I got; mainly afterwards to clear out the blocked colon. There were a few things I think were somewhat improperly done; but overall I have a newfound respect for the nurses in particular who have to juggle between many patients and remember all the details of the job; as well as must be there all hours to fill in; etc. Several individuals were Christians where I was; between one of the young medical student trainees who was willing to walk me as well as one patient and someone else who I asked sensing that they were a godly woman.
Mercifully my insurance covers enough so that I can get through payment (my parents will help). I am asking in prayer that my workplace can accommodate a few weeks without heavy lifting; not exactly sure deadline but one doctor said 6 weeks; when the surgeon has a follow up appointment he will discuss those things; that is my only restraint. I am sadly going to take a respite from by 2 Bible Studies for a month as well; the groups are quite small but people have great interest.
Looks like one or two folks have done some extended studies on this site when I was gone. Primarily understanding my own selfish nature after being hooked up to tubes and IV lines I realize that Christ alone is good in me. ( Jeremiah 17:9).
Please find this video which I have listed the name below and watch to the end.
Truth is Christ
(NEW) Jaw-dropping 666 Discovery utterly Proves the King James Bible is God's Preserved Word.
Please watch it, do not be deceived by modern versions.
God Bless all who seek His Truth!
The Bible is very clear that when Christ applies His Salvation to one of His Elect and they become "saved", they become Born Again, they are given ETERNAL LIFE at that moment. This occurs in their Soul, which then can NEVER DIE. But their Body has not yet become "saved" and will die.
So when the True Believer dies, their Body goes into the grave and corrupts; and must wait the Last Day to be Resurrected a Spiritual Body. But in their Soul, they go immediately to be with Christ in Heaven.
2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at HOME in the body, we are ABSENT from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be ABSENT from the body, and to be PRESENT with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the COMING of our Lord Jesus Christ WITH ALL HIS SAINTS.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-16 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God BRING WITH HIM. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Jude 1:14,15 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, THE LORD COMETH WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINTS, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Thank you,
God bless,
RLW
Thank you, that may very well be what Jesus did and the reason Mary could not touch Him. It goes along with what we are told what Jesus did in Hebrews, whether it was when He first ascended or 40 days later when He ascended on a cloud. It may be one of those things we will not know for sure.
My thoughts were on the feasts Jesus fulfilled, the Passover, the Sacrificial Lamb, the feast of Unleavened Bread, His perfect life with no sin/leaven, and the Feast of First Fruits, the first fruits/firstborn of the dead, and 50 days later the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost with the giving of the Spirit.
Thanks again, God bless,
RLW