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  • Frankie J - 1 year ago
    Cont,,, No Cross No Crown

    IV. This miserable defection from primitive times, when the glory of Christianity was the purity of its professors, I cannot but call the second and worst part of the Jewish tragedy upon the blessed Saviour of mankind. For the Jews, from the power of ignorance, and the extreme prejudice they were under to the unworldly way of his appearance, would not acknowledge him when he came, but for two or three years persecuted, and finally crucified him in one day. But the false Christians' cruelty lasts longer: they have first, with Judas, professed him, and then, for these many ages, most basely betrayed, persecuted, and crucified him, by a perpetual apostasy in manners, from the self-denial and holiness of his doctrine; their lives giving the lie to their faith. These are they that the author of the epistle to the Hebrews tells us, "Crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to open shame:" Hebrews 6:6 whose defiled hearts John in his Revelation styles, "The streets of Sodom and Egypt, spiritually so called, where also our Lord was crucified." Rev11:8 And as Christ said of old, a man's enemies are those of his own house, so Christ's enemies now are chiefly those of his own profession; they spit upon him, they nail and pierce him, they crown him with thorns, and give him gall and vinegar to drink. Matt27:34 Nor is it hard to apprehend; for they that live in the same evil nature and principle the Jews did, that crucified him outwardly, must needs crucify him inwardly; since they that reject the grace now in their own hearts, are one in stock and generation with the hard-hearted Jews, that resisted the grace that then appeared in and by Christ.

    conti....
  • Frankie J - 1 year ago
    No Cross No Crown William Penn

    Though the knowledge and obedience of the doctrine of the cross of Christ be of infinite moment to the souls of men, for that is the only door to true Christianity, and that path the ancients ever trod to blessedness; yet, with extreme affliction let me say, it is so little understood, so much neglected, and what is worse, so bitterly contradicted by the vanity, superstition, and intemperance of professed Christians, that we must either renounce to believe what the Lord Jesus hath told us, that whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after him, cannot be his disciple; Luke 14:27 or, admitting that for truth, conclude, that the generality of Christendom do miserably deceive and disappoint themselves in the great business of Christianity, and their own salvation.

    II. For, let us be never so tender and charitable in the survey of those nations that entitle themselves to any interest in the holy name of Christ, if we will but be just too, we must needs acknowledge, that after all the gracious advantages of light, and obligations to fidelity, which these latter ages of the world have received by the coming, life, doctrine, miracles, death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ, with the gifts of his Holy Spirit; to which add the writings, labours, and martyrdom of his dear followers in all times, there seems very little left of Christianity but the name; which being now usurped by the old heathen nature and life, makes the professors of it but true heathens in disguise. For though they worship not the same idols, they worship Christ with the same heart: and they can never do otherwise, whilst they live in the same lusts. So that the unmortified Christian and the heathen are of the same religion. For though they have different objects to which they do direct their prayers, that adoration in both is but forced and ceremonious, and the deity they truly worship is the god of the world, the great lord of lusts: to him they bow
  • Frankie J - 1 year ago
    No Cross No Crown continues

    with the whole powers of soul and sense. What shall we eat? What shall we drink? What shall we wear? And how shall we pass away our time? Which[3] way may we gather wealth, increase our power, enlarge our territories, and dignify and perpetuate our names and families in the earth? Which base sensuality is most pathetically expressed and comprised by the beloved Apostle John, in these words: "The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life," which, says he, "are not of the Father, but of the world, that lieth in wickedness." (1 John, ii. 16.)

    III. It is a mournful reflection, but a truth no confidence can be great enough to deny, that these worldly lusts fill up the study, care, and conversation of wretched Christendom! and, which aggravates the misery, they have grown with time. For as the world is older, it is worse; and the examples of former lewd ages, and their miserable conclusions, have not deterred, but excited ours; so that the people of this seem improvers of the old stock of impiety, and have carried it so much further than example, that instead of advancing in virtue upon better times, they are scandalously fallen below the life of heathens. Their high-mindedness, lasciviousness, uncleanness, drunkenness, swearing, lying, envy, backbiting, cruelty, treachery, covetousness, injustice, and oppression, are so common, and committed with such invention and excess, that they have stumbled and embittered infidels to a degree of scorning that holy religion, to which their good example should have won their affections.

    to be continue.....
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 1 year ago
    River heads require some explanation. Four heads pendant upon the river which shall not yield a satisfactory answer by locating the place names to geography. Instead we need look for significance of the Command number Four. Four signifies Jesus Christ the Word become flesh. Frequently we have a gold rush where the river bed brings gold deposits to surface. "The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold." (Ge.2:11) Hearing of the word of God produces faith.(Ro.10:17). The Spirit gives as to the quality of gold found there. "And the gold of that land is good." Here it is clear what the Spirit is aiming at. It is the most holy faith and it signifies North where the judgment comes from.(Je.1:14). Zion is located there. (Ps.48:2) The Spirit omits altogether what other rivers bring out. There is a gradation that invites comparison to the image in the King's Dream. (Dan.2:32-33)

    "This image's head was of fine gold," This fine gold corresponds to the land of Havilah.

    "His breast and his arms of silver," is of lesser quality(Ethiopia) "His belly and his thighs of brass,"(Assyria) while "His legs of iron" refers to Assyria (Is.8:7) The Spirit made clear of the folly of Israel in trusting Assyria. Jeremiah also refers to it.(Je.2:18) Historically it has revealed and the Spirit points to the manner the church espoused the moribund Imperial Rome to come into being rather than on the promises of God. This refers"His feet part of iron and part of clay".
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I don't see why it should be , if you are doing it as a sport with others and as a way to keep fit it shouldn't be a problem . Just remember that a Christian never initiates violence , what you would be doing is playing a sport with another willing sports person :) .
  • David Allen - 1 year ago
    please remember me and my family in your prayers today
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Jimbob , I'm so glad that we have some one like you on here , some one who has done their research and can present all these facts to us . Many years ago I tried one or two other Bible versions but I was so horrified by the discrepancies , that I gave up on them very quickly and haven't read any other version for about 29 years . Please keep up the posts , just because you don't get much feed back , doesn't mean you are not appreciated , you are ! :) .
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ge,2:10-14

    "And from thence it was parted, and became into four heads."

    Parting of the river into four heads in the parlance of the Spirit is with four directions. In the abstract we came across how God separated the waters above the firmament from waters below.(1:7) Like the sun shining upon the unrighteous and the just alike holiness of God which is perfect makes no distinction with water of life and in four heads what the Spirit signifies is the word of God is for all. "Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters," It is sent forth to all. "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" (Ez.33:11) His mercy is at his terms. By refusing truth and refusing to obey his Will no amount Jesus talk shall save foolish shepherds.

    North south, east and west have different significance than how we view on the earth. The sun of righteousness does not have to rise on the east as we refer to it in our everyday world. Since the matter directions have been covered we shall attend to v.15

    "And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." His stewardship was with regards to his world where he was to discharge his tasks in obedience to His will. Recalling the Isaiah quote the spiritual space of each believer is intended as a place of Rest for God. " Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you."(Is.55:3)
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Stehanie,, I am so glad that your tooth pain is gone. Praise the Lord. you have gone through a lot in this way!

    I will pray for your Mom.

    Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for causing the pain to depart from Stephanie's tooth. We come to You again to ask You to cause Stephanie's Mom's knee pain to depart also. Bring healing to her knee and guide her in what she should do to rehabilitate her knee . We ask this of You Father, in the name of Jesus. Amen.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ge.2:8 "Eden"

    "And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed."

    No one has located where Eden is actually but it is no matter. Fellowship of God with Man has an address for which the Spirit has only supplied the Garden as a reference point. The Son represents for us the Man component in the Fellowship so he is assigned Eden as the word of God says, 'The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool."(Is.66:1). Treat it as the kingdom of the dear Son and it explains where our blessings come from.

    "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden." This river is associated with Jesus Christ which is how the Spirit has added details to the blessedness of the children of God. In the colloquy with the Samaritan woman he makes clear,"but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." It is provided by the grace of Jesus Christ. In the preceding verse he makes a distinction of the water issuing from his domain to the world of the Sprit, the garden and the water at the Jacob's well. " Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again." ( John 4:13-14) The world of the Samaritan woman may have as with the rural life revolved around the village well but receiving Jesus Christ as the Messiah changed her life forever. Her thirst that was never by sated by water she daily drank from is evident, "The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw."(v.15)

    The Spirit instructs us that Adam's world was special because God had planted the garden in his Son for Adam and Eve. Everything pertaining to life and godliness was on the house to want some useless advise from the serpent.

    The truth of the matter is the river beginning at this point shall continue to the last chapter unbroken. (Re.22:1) This pure water of the river of life also serves as the river of time about which the entire God document is fleshed out.
  • RyanL - 1 year ago
    Is Training Jiu jitsu possibly wrong?
  • Stephanie V - 1 year ago
    Thank you so much for your prayers! God is so good!!! My tooth pain is completely gone!

    I also ask for prayer that my mom's knee pain goes away completely, and she won't have to use her knee brace. Thank you again, and may God bless you!
  • Jimbob - 1 year ago
    Another one. Inspired by God, or not?

    The KJB says in ( Col 1:14) "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins".

    The KJB says we have redemption ((THROUGH HIS BLOOD)) Wouldn't that be a TRUE statement?

    The Nasb says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins". The Nasb removes the words (through his blood).

    The Niv says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins". The Niv removes the words (through his blood).

    The Esv says "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins". The Esv removes the words (through his blood).

    The Nlt says "who purchased our freedom and forgave our sins". The Nlt removes the words (through his blood).

    The Gnt says "by whom we are set free, that is, our sins are forgiven". The Gnt removes the words (through his blood).

    Should I go on? I really could!

    Who would put their trust in a bible that removes the blood of Jesus Christ from this verse?

    This is the 3rd post that is without a doubt Biblical proof that modern version bibles are corrupt, and not Inspired by God!

    The KJB has again proven itself to be the Inspired Word of God!

    ( Luke 22:20) Jesus says "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you".

    The word (blood) is #129; it means (the atoning blood of Christ) by implying bloodshed.

    Would someone with good intentions remove those words in all those modern version bibles?

    Or do you think those bibles are what we are warned about in ( Jer 23:36) and ( 2 Tim 4:3-4)? And maybe even ( 1 Tim 4:1)?

    Anybody want to answer those questions?

    Truth matters!
  • Jimbob - 1 year ago
    Another one! Inspired by God, or not?

    The KJB says in ( Jn 7:8) "Go ye up unto the feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come".

    (Jesus say "I go not up YET"

    The Nasb says "I am not going up to this feast"...

    The Niv says "You go to the festival, I am not going up to this festival"...

    The Nlt says "You go on. I'm not going to the festival"...

    The Esv says "You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast"...

    The Gnt says "You go on to the festival. I am not going to this festival"...

    The Csb says "Go up to the festival yourselves. I'm not going up to this festival"...

    All these modern version bibles are saying Jesus is a liar.

    In verse 10 they say this!

    The Nasb says "But when his brothers had gone up to the feast, He Himself also went up"...

    The Niv says "However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also"...

    The Nlt says "But after his brothers left for the festival, Jesus also went"...

    The Esv says "But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up"...

    The Gnt says "After his brothers had gone to the festival, Jesus also went"...

    The Csb says "After his brothers had gone up to the festival, then he also went up"...

    Is Jesus a liar? That IS Blasphemy!!

    All these modern version bibles are saying Jesus Christ was a liar!!!

    The KJB is the only Bible where Jesus said "I go not up yet", NOT UP YET. And then He went, Jesus was NOT A LIAR!

    All the other bibles said "I am not going" Then He went! That would make Him a liar!

    How could anyone possibly trust a bible that claims Jesus was a liar??

    Anybody want to answer that question?

    All modern version bibles are corrupt!!
  • Jimbob - 1 year ago
    Inspiration of God, or not?

    The KJB says in ( Luke 2:33) "And Joseph and his mother marvelled at the things which were spoken of him".

    The Nasb says "And his father and his mother were amazed at the things which were being said about him".

    The Niv says "The child's father and mother marvelled at what was said about him".

    The Esv says "And his father and his mother marvelled at wat was said"...

    The Nlt says "Jesus' parents were amazed at what was beng said"...

    The Csb says "His father and mother were amazed"...

    The Gnt says "The child's father and mother were amazed"...

    All these modern version bibles claim that Joseph was the father of Jesus.

    Was Joseph the father of Jesus?

    That could be considered Blasphemy! Who would trust such a bible as these?

    The KJB is the Inspired Word of God!

    modern version bibles are NOT Inspired by God?
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good thoughts, Jema. We are hoping Ronald will receive what he needs from the Lord soon.
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen,

    Psalms 18:32

    Perfect:

    without blemish, complete, full, perfect, sincerely ity, sound, without spot, undefiled,

    From tamam; entire (literally, figuratively or morally); also (as noun) integrity, truth -- without blemish, complete, full, perfect, sincerely (-ity), sound, without spot, undefiled, upright(-ly),

    what is this to those who continue in sin for life, but regarding iniquity in their hearts, & turn from the Grace of God, Rom 8:2 their prayers are not heard Proverbs 28:9 God is not near them & why? They call not upon Him in Truth, & reject the motions of His Spirit to intercede through them, with sighing & groans that cannot be uttered.

    Oh, if they would only open the hearts to the Light of the Truth that shines in their heart, "enlighening their darkness" the blessings & goodness that God has instore for them,
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    oops, I meant derive, not drive. Typing too fast.
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Patience Dear Ronald , wait for the Lord . Maybe you are supposed to be quiet and still at the moment . Don't be afraid of the dreams etc , I went through a similar thing many years ago , disturbing dreams and sleep paralysis , very scarry . All I did was say the Lord's prayer over and over in my mind , it calmed me and I was soon ok. Think about what you are eating and drinking before bed , taking any meds etc . What ever else you do , don't doubt your Heavenly Father and His love for you . He sees you , all day every day He is right there with you . I find I don't sleep at all well if I don't read my Bible just before bed . When I was struggling with the dreams etc , I slept with a small Bible under my pillow , I'm sure that helped me a lot . Relaxation is the key , don't fear anything , you belong to the Great and Only God Almighty , you are His child and He is watching over you . Try to relax and put yourself entirely in His hands . Thank Him every day and say 'Thy will be done ' and mean it when you say it , give yourself over to Him . He won't desert you for a second . Wait for Him , He will put you where you are supposed to be . Do not be afraid .
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Ronald.

    I am so sorry that you are having such troubles in your thoughts and sleep. Have you talked with your doctor about this? There could be some disfunction going on in your brain in a physical way.

    Also, have you spoken to your pastor and/or elders to pray for you? I would suggest this.

    I am happy to pray for you.

    Dear Heavenly Father, today, in the name of Jesus, we ask that You will heal Ronald in the areas of unwelcome thoughts that are hindering him and also multiple sleep problems that are bothering him, robbing him of sleep and leaving him feeling attacked and unsettled. Father, remove whatever is bringing these things to Ronald, for you are stronger than any illness, disorder, power or principality that can cause these things. You are sovereign over all of these things and we believe that You will help Ronald and bring to Him soundness of mind, purity of thoughts, and restful sleep. Bring Him dreams that honor You and promote spiritual growth. Engage Ronald in healthy thinking and prayer with You as His guide and teacher. Demolish all the wiles of the enemy and bring Ronald peace today and every night and day hereafter. Amen.

    Ronald keep us posted on how you are doing. We will continue to pray for you.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Richard,

    I agree that we are not competing here. I hope I did not give that impression. I was jesting when I said "Tag-you're it."

    It is more like Iron sharpening iron here. We are building one another up in knowledge for what God has revealed about Himself in Scripture. That is wonderful. It would be good to take a few days rest on this. We all need time to digest what is presented in the posts on this forum and take a serious and prayerful look at what people say.

    This line of posting is very exciting for me because I love speaking and listening about Who God is in truth, not what we make Him to be in our minds. Scripture reveals His character and we can know that what He says about Himself is true and does not change. We can depend and trust Him because He is faithful to Himself.

    I hope your new job works out well for you. Let us know how it goes. Also, how are you feeling since your illness? Have you your strength back? I will continue to pray for your wellness and that you find this new job a good fit for you at this time in your life.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Giannis,

    Just reading your posts, I am enjoying them, it is unveiling the truth. I will reply later on them I just want to go over them with prayer and more study. I love what you are posting much can be learned with an open heart.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Rlemmers - 1 year ago
    Dear people,

    I have been struggling for quite a while with this inner dialogue, that seems not my own and tries to override my own logic even when confronting myself with discernment and truth. I'm also being tormented daily in my sleep wether it being manipulated dreams, visions, night mares or sleep paralysis, although I pray every day for protection against it. I could be doing something wrong in prayer. Also I am healing very slow in comparison to some years ago, while I didn't take any of those mRNA vaccines, it seems my health isn't improving much. All in all I am still grateful for what our Heavenly Father gave me, but I feel like my prayers are not being answered and need some help, while I am heading towards a pivot point in my life, where sometimes I feel I could be losing the battle. If you have time, please ask our Heavenly Father to purify me from all unclean spirits and protect me from any future attacks, so that I can start the work (again) that our God the Father has set out for me to do.

    Thank you in advance dear people, may our Heavenly Father bless you with his grace, Amen!

    With kind regards,

    Ronald Lemmers

    The Netherlands

    Gorinchem
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Romans 16:7,

    "Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen (relatives), and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me."

    Ah, so there were people, Paul's relatives that were in Christ before him and certainly prayed for his salvation. And God answered.

    Have a blessed day or night.
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Romans 15:12'

    "And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust."

    Firstly instead of "gentiles" the grk says "nations" (grk ethne). And instead of "trust" it says "hope" (grk elpiousin).

    Which is that reign? A literal reign of Jesus with Israel, as some believe? Or as it seems that it talks about a spiritual kingdom where the other nations really put their hope on Him (for salvation).

    And it goes on in verse 13, thus giving a certainty about which is that kingdom.

    "Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost."
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Romans 15:4,

    "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Romans 14:9,

    "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living."

    How could Christ be Lord of the dead if the soul is not alive but dies together with the flesh?

    Compare the above with Luke 20:38,

    "For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him."

    So really there is not any dead man since their soul is living "unto Him".
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Romans 13:1,

    "1. Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2.Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."

    The grk "exousia" is more properly translated as "authority", than power (gkr kratos or dymamis)

    So Paul asks christians to obey the authorities, in other words the Law of their land.

    The above verse has been used in the past by all kind of rulers (kings, dictators, conquerors, ...even churches like the R/C church) who were trying to establish their authority on people using the belief of a God offered authority, The phrase "by the grace of God, king" relied on those verses and was invented to show to people the "divine right of rulers/kings". But when the Bible talks about " the powers that be are ordained of God", it means the characteristics that God put in people to make organized societies with hierarcy and subjected to rules. Not that God placed some people of His own will to rule others. The latter is true in democratic societies (since God respects our free choise) but not in dictatorships or conquerors or any other forced rule.
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Romans 12:1-2,

    "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."

    Cain offered a sacrifice to God. But it wasn't acceptable unto God. Why not? Because God gave specific instructions on how a sacrifice should be offered, Similarly nowadays (think about the word "holy").
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Whoa nelly! I haven't gotten to completion of the f and g with the infernal 2000 character limit...just took a nap and voila you have about 8 suggestions...

    Why don't you at least put down your f and g ideas first as a posting; or post ALL the aforementioned ideas. Seems as though I was wrong you have the speed AND the detail at a pace that seems to outmatch me in both aspects. Cudos to you; although it is isn't a competition I suppose...

    I guess people may look at these comments anyway. First problem I have is there is so much overlap and sometimes in a particular verse. Would be fun in a way for the children to get some long statement with all the letters to stimulate minds.

    Such works with the saying "Almighty beauty caring "divine essence" of "Father God" who is "holy and invisible; jealous and kind" or something to that affect. Maybe a song..

    At the end of the day it is God's everlasting character which goes beyond or circumstances; the length of our lives from and to all eternity which is our foundation. We as puny man are given an opportunity to represent Him as He shapes and molds us through sanctification to ultimate glorification. I am thinking glorification as an interesting theme both for how Christ was glorified after suffering and then us as "first fruits". I'll give you a day or two to collect your thoughts and maybe finish Zechariah 13 and 14 or post something else in the meanwhile. Starting work Tuesday so likely will slow down posts next week.

    I know some read and rarely comment; it doesn't seem there is a huge audience at any rate. I had thought of how answered prayers could be coordinated as it seems rather sparce with one or two serious requests a day and no clear evidence some are answered that at least are coherent or make sense. There seems to be a lack of answered prayers and that may be a category the site should explore or a subject to post about.

    Agape; bye for now; Rich P


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