Firstly the anc grks had no word for "translate" like in mod. grk, they used the word "interprete" instead, see Matthew 5:40-41.
Secondly, lets see the verse in 1 Cor 14:13, "Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.". I honestly do not think that Paul suggests here to christians in Corinth to learn foreign languages. It seems to me that he suggests that they pray to God to give them the interpretation of what is said.
Lets see another verse, 1 Cor 12:7-11, where Paul speaks about spiritual gifts that God gives to His church. Verses 10-11, "(10) To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;TO ANOTHER THE INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES: (11) But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."
So interpretation of tongues is a spiritual gift given by the Spirit. Of course one who understands the language that is spoken can also interprete but in such a case it is not the gift that is working but the knowledge of that man.
Whether people in various congregations seem to you that they don't speak in real tongues, that has nothing to do with what is written. And it is written that God gives interpretation of tongues no matter how people use that gift, properly or not.
When they first called those who taught and followed Christ, Christians.
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
Lots of people, church goers, different denominations. All saying they're are Christians, when there is only One Christ.
Glory to God on earth as it is in Heaven. God Bless and keep striving.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The words, scripture, prophecy, and a book all = The KJB.
( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..
(words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.
( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)
( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..
(book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.
( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
(scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.
(prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.
( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.
( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
(preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
Forgot to mention Finis Dake, they got some old clips of him on YouTube. Audio recording with assorted Bible questions. The Bible he really teaches is not hard. Check him out, you will as I learn that it is not a complicated book. Once you do, you be in the Bible understanding scriptures like it was intended to be. Won't need commentary after, just a dictionary once in a while. God Bless again Brother.
You most certainly can, otherwise we could live a life of sin and go to Heaven. But it ain't the case, we got to cut the sin out. Grace from God in Prayer through Jesus Christ our Salvation and the Holy Spirit. When a Christian commits a sin, he/she trangesses the law. When we ask for forgiveness of our sins, We Pray to God Our Father, anything you ask Him ask in my Name Jesus said. So anytime we pray, we have to ask in the Name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And the Holy Spirit.
When someone sins, they say without saying to GOD that they don't have faith in Him. When God says He will lead a way of escape, not giving you too much you can't handle. And we can do all things through Christ, we just got to do our part and RESIST the temptations of the devil and he will flee.
Romans 6:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
But like the Prodigal son or the lost sheep. If you do sin, repent and go forth and sin no more. Grace and Salvation will always be there for those who want it. So ya, you can lose your salvation, which is to be saved from sin. When one is in sin, they like I said above ask God in prayer for forgiveness...
We just got to keep away from the sin business as a Pastor once said. If you stumble, get up, keep on striving.
I encourage you to look up a fella who since passed away. His name Finis Dake, we got to get rid of that idea that the Bible is hard to understand. Basic Bible teaching, made me realize English is a peculiar language. God Bless and Keep on striving, being Christlike in anything you do.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
You were a JOINT HEIR with Christ at his RESURRECTION.
Only ONE BODY was raised at his resurrection.
You became the body of Christ, no longer having a heart of stone, but Christ gave you his heart, no longer a carnal mind, Christ gave you his mind.
Your carnal mind is DESTROYED by constantly repeating the scriptures that affirm the WORKS of his resurrection.
John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou gavest me; I HAVE GIVEN THEM, that they may be ONE as we are ONE.
Isaiah 59:21 As for me (the Father), this is my covenant with them (his creation, by the works of the cross of Christ), the words that I (the Father) have put in your (Christ's) mouth, SHALL NOT depart out of your (Christ's) mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED (being resurrected as joint heirs with Christ), nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED, henceforth and forever.
The wages of SIN (unbelief) is DEATH.
The gift of BELIEF is eternal LIFE.
1 Timothy 6:16 Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light......
John 17:22 .... that they may be ONE, as we are ONE.
Acts 2:1 through verse 11, they all heard their own "language".. it lists the various countries from where many of those people who listened were from. Verse 8 says.. and how hear we every man in our own tongue (language), wherein we were born? Tongues are not applicable in a congregation where everyone speaks the same "language". If there is a "language" difference the interpreter should understand both languages, through the direction of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit will provide the "understanding" if it is needed.
Conclusion on my reply on the David and Goliath issue in 2 Samuel 21:19: and I quote the text note, "l 19" (referring to the word Jaare-Oregim) "Or son of Jair the weaver." "m 19 Hebrew and Septuagant; 1 Chron. 20:5 son of Jair killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath."
the footnote: "Elhanan...... killed Goliath. See NIV text note" (above paragraph). "Since it is clear from 1 Sa 17 that David killed Goliath, an earlier copyist probably misread the Hebrew for "Lamhi the brother of" (see 1 Ch 20:5) "as the Bethlehemite" (in Hebrew the word for "killed" stands first in the clause). Jaare Oregim. The Hebrew for "Oregim" also occurs at the end of the verse, where it is translated "weavers." An earlier copyist probably inserted it in the name by mistake, since 1 Ch.20:5 reads "Jair" (apparently correctly) instead of "Jaare-Oregim."
What I'm perceiving is that the KJV writers added "the brother of" because it obviously didn't make sense in the original writings, or those that the KJV copyist/s were translating from, that David AND his brother killed Goliath at different times. Actually, it was the NIV writers who put forth the effort , made evident by the text and footnotes, to clear up the matter. I don't see anything purposely deceptive here that warrants the term "corrupt," in regards to the NIV.
Yet, I could be totally off the mark here, since I'm not, and don't claim to be an authority in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc; nor one who desires to decipher nearly every word or passage, for that matter, from the Bible; not my gift. I do though, genuinely appreciate and am grateful for those who do. I've learned much from you. Sincere thanks, and I encourage you to continue this gift you've been blessed with.
When time allows I'll try to address the issue you brought to attention from Mark.
To clarify something, I have also a King James Bible which I use.
To get the point of answering your questions: My KJV says in 1 Samuel 17:49, "And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth." The word "it" has a different font, meaning, I think, it was added for easier understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV I have says, "As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell face down on the ground.
I don't see anything so far that causes any confusion to the meaning as to what occurred here. David slew Goliath.
My KJV in 2 Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaerogim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. The words "the brother of" are also in a different font, as to give indication they were added for clarification. Also the word "was", referring to the spear has a different font.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV says, "In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gitite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.
So yes, there is some confusion here. But the "corrupt" NIV text note and footnote appears to clean it up.
Exactly right. All modern Christians are hypocrites, they just have no awareness of it. They ALL adhere to 9 of the 10 Commandments of God, the Commandments that Jesus Christ Himself taught and obeyed, but the 4th Commandment is repulsive to them. They ALL believe in keeping and obeying all the 9 Commandments, and even expect all other professed Christians to do the same, but they condemn Commandment-keeping and preach that nobody should ever keep the 10 Commandments or they will somehow be sent to hell by God - for obeying His Commandments mind you!
The issue is a woeful lack of knowledge of the Scriptures. God says that His very own people, those who call themselves by His Name - Christians - will be destroyed for a lack of knowledge ( Hos. 4:6). He says that it is a failure on their part to develop a love for the Truth that will be their downfall. He says that He will afflict them with a strong delusion causing them to believe in grievous lies (2 Thes. 2:10-11) which will lead them far astray from Him and His reward of Eternal Life in Paradise where He and all the heavenly angels reside. He defines what it means to be a saint and what it truly takes to receive Salvation when He refers to the saints who patiently endured misery and hardship in their lives due to their steadfast obedience to the 10 Commandments.( Rev. 14:12)
Yes, there are few Christians who live today as Jesus lived ( 1 Jn. 2:6), obeying the 10 Commandments and enduring whatever hardship may come as reward for their efforts. They walk the narrow path with Jesus Christ at their side and they carry a message of Truth, a message of obedience and endurance for all to witness so that no one will have any excuse of ignorance when the time comes to say "Lord, Lord ..." and they will be rejected by the Great Judge for their working of sin into the surrounding society.
Please pray for me. I have employees at work that are treating me in the wrong. i had one employee that hold the truth, and she was involved in the situation. God bless you.
I would appreciate prayers for problems with mental health and with sin: I feel like I am slipping further down a hole, and I am committing grievous sins. God bless
The body cannot heal, because it cannot make itself sick. It NEEDS no healing. Its health or sickness depends entirely on how the mind perceives, and the purpose that the mind would use it for.
When we limit ourselves we are not of one mind, and that is sickness. Yet sickness not of the body, but of the mind. All forms of sickness are signs that the mind is split and does not accept a unified purpose. Healing is the way in which the separation is overcome. Separation is overcome by union. It cannot be overcome by separating. The decision to unite must be unequivocal, or the mind itself is divided and not whole. Sickness and separation must be healed by love and union. Nothing else can heal as God established healing. Without Him there is no healing, for there is NO love.
The body's healing will occur because its cause is gone. And now without a cause, it cannot come again in different form. The body's cause is UNFORGIVENESS of God's Sons. God has only one Son. If all His creations are His Sons, then everyone must be an integral part of the whole Sonship; and the Sonship in Its Oneness transcends the sum of its parts.
Attempt not to ask the Holy Spirit to heal the body, for this would merely be to accept the ego's belief that the body is the proper aim of healing. Ask, rather, that the Holy Spirit teach you the right PERCEPTION of the body, for perception alone can be distorted. Only perception can be sick, because only perception can be wrong.
When I was a child, I recall birds flying into my living room window, resulting in the same effect as you've described. Mom said that it was due to the effects of them eating the tiny red berries from a bush outside; they seemed to make them a bit goofy.
I'm unaware of what and whose teachings you are referring to, but I will speak in regards to your main concern about the cause of bodily afflictions. But before I do, I must say that what I say is not readily accepted by many, and may appear as offensive. But, be assured, I include myself, of course, when I appear to suffer in the body.
Sickness is merely another example of our insistence on asking guidance of a teacher who does not know the answer. It is a way of demonstrating we can be hurt. It is a witness to our frailty, our vulnerability, and our extreme need to depend on this external guidance. Yet the body is healed when we come to God WITHOUT it and join the Mind in which all healing rests.
Sickness is a sign, a shadow of an evil thought that seems to have reality and to be just, according to the usage of the world. It is external proof of inner "sins" and witnesses to unforgiving thoughts that injure and would hurt the Son of God. Sickness is meaningful only if the two basic premises on which the ego's interpretation are true; that the body is for attack, and that you are a body. Without these premises sickness is inconceivable.
The guiltless mind cannot suffer. Being sane, the mind heals the body because it (the mind) has been healed. The sane mind cannot conceive of illness because it cannot conceive of attacking anyone or anything. Therefore, our health is the result of our desire to see out brother with no blood upon his hands, nor guilt upon his heart made heavy with the proof of sin. Love cannot suffer, because love cannot attack. The remembrance of love therefore brings invulnerability with it.
The wages of sin = Death and everlasting torment in hell.
Salvation is a very important question, and should be of the utmost importance in every Christians life.
Don't trust your salvation to anyone. There is "no shortcut" or "free ticket" to salvation! Read the bible for yourself, and learn to pray directly to God thru his Son Jesus Christ, and IF you are sincere, you will learn the answer to your salvation question from God himself.
I can point out a very important verse regarding losing salvation:
Hebrews 10:26
"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Learn to Fear God.
Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."
Learn to Love God.
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
In summary, Become obedient to God, Repent from sin, Fear God, Love God, read your bible and pray, and you will be doing well.
Great question! How do you interpret something you don't understand? You can't. It is impossible to interpret something without first understanding what is being spoken.
Something that might help in understanding 1 Corinthians 14:13 is that the word interpret means explain. It does not mean translate. There are three point-blank facts the bible teaches on speaking in tongues.
Number 1: It is a known language. Not necessarily known to the person speaking, but it is a human language.
Number 2: It is a sign.
Number 3: It is to unbelievers, not believers.
The only example given to us is in Acts 2:1-13. Those who were speaking in tongues were speaking in known languages. There was no need for anyone to interpret or translate the tongues being spoken. In fact, in Acts 2:8, it says "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"
You see, they were not looking for someone to interpret or translate what was being said. Those who were speaking in tongues were speaking in known languages and it was understood by those who were hearing them speak. Acts 2:9-11 gives us a list of the languages from which they were speaking. And then Acts 2:12 says that "they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?"
So, they were all amazed, and they were in doubt, saying one to another, what does this mean? Again, they weren't asking for anyone to interpret what they heard. They were needing an explanation. They're not asking what they were saying when they asked, "what does this mean?" They said we can hear them in our own languages, but what does this mean? They admit that it's a miracle, but they really don't know what's going on.
It's sad that what many call "speaking in tongues" today is not the tongues the bible teaches. The tongues in the bible were actual known human languages, not a bunch of babbling gibberish sounds that no one, not even the person speaking can understand.
Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man.
God has many warnings in scripture regarding not making idols of created beings or heavenly objects such as the moon and stars. This verse shows how God cannot be reduced to a man made concept or picture.
Colossians 1:15 states: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." This verse is discussing Christ who although He came in a man is part of the Godhead; so certainly we shouldn't have images of Him either; especially to be venerated or worshipped. As to whether; say a stained glass window is equally offensive we have to look to the heart of those who are attending a church service; as sadly some even with such an object as that will find some feature that seems to have some supernatural light in the image which is idolotry. The same could be said for the Apostles on such imagery; a Protestant wouldn't have any desire normally to make it an idol; but other denominations such as Greek Orthodox have statues of "saints" which clearly constitute worship that is against scripture.
John 1:18 states that no man has ever seen God but in Christ we in a sense see Him. His attributes including the Godhead are said to be clear from creation ( Romans 1:20). This was said to be known from the time of Creation according to the beginning of this verse. This shows that only later the nations departed from the knowledge that Adam and his immediate descendants would have instilled in them; there was deliberate rebellion against the Creator throughout the earth; both after the garden and after the flood with the tower of Babel and then God confusing the languages and scattering men throughout the earth (see Genesis 10:25 on likely splitting off of continents and dispersion of men).
I was prayerfully considering whether of not to reply to your post concerning me. The only thing I would like to know is waht I have said that you think is unscriptural in my post concerning God's Holiness.
If you would please let me know this, I would appreciate it.
Still on the theme of God's Being and aspects that begin with "I"
I want to address that He is completely "INDEPENDENT"
This involves that He is completely self-sufficient within Himself and also completely free of anyone or anything outside of Himself. No one can force His will nor make demands of Him. He owns everything and everyone, but does not rely on anything or anyone He has made for anything. He has no need of anything outside of Himself. He is completely self-satisfied and self-determining. No one can inform him of anything He does not already know or give Him anything he needs. All of His decisions come from the endless fountain of His wisdom and pre-determined design for what He has created. He is Self-existing-His life comes from within Himself. His life is not something separate from Himself but wholly Who He Is-LIFE. This aspect of His being-self-existence, freedom, and independence, self-sustenance, and self-satisfaction is called 'aseity' in theology.
Yet, in His love, He desires us, not because He needs us, because we need Him and He is what will satisfy us in all ways. He has everything we truly need and He supplies us with our daily provision and with loving families and friends to share His love with. He freely gives without compulsion to His children bought by Christ for His glory.
Act 17:24-28 speaks to this freedom from need and God's independence from what exists outside of Himself.
God speaks to Job of His sovereignty and independence in chapter 38.
When we attempt to describe Who God is as to His essential nature, there is much overlap with the words and their meanings that we use to describe Him. This is because He is a Whole, all that we could say of Him mis Who He is in His Essence and Everything that is true of Him is necessary of His essential nature to be a unified whole Being.
Heavenly Father, I agree with Gigi. We ask in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ for his wife to choose salvation. Holy Spirit, open up her spiritual eyes that she see by giving up herself to God, she will have a blessed life. Amen
Good Morning, I want to add another post on the nature of God for the letter "I"
"INFINITE"
God is infinite in every way. So when I said that God is holy, His holiness is not bound by any limitation. Therefore, in regards to His separateness or uniqueness as part of being holy, there is no one now or will there ever be anyone who equals Him in His holiness. We are made holy, set apart in Christ, and also being sanctified in this life, and in eternity we will be sinless and made completely whole as glorified humans. But God is in a class by Himself. We cannot 'become like the Most High' as Satan wished to become. Our holiness in humanly, His is Divine.
God is infinite in wisdom, understanding and knowledge. He is infinite in love and goodness, This is true of all attributes. If He did not possess these attributes to the infinite degree, then there would be room for growth in His character because He is changeless. Therefore He is forever boundless and unlimited in all that He is. Time and space do not limit Him.
He is infinite Life and boundless. All life comes from Him. Eternally He is supreme in all that He is. His power, presence, and knowledge is without limit.
Psalm 147:5 speaks of His infinite knowledge. 1 Kings 8:27 says that God cannot be contained either by time, space, or any other way. Eph. 3:8 says that His the riches of His Being are unfathomable.
Dear Heavenly Father, we are asking You today in the name of Jesus to soften Fallmorning's wife's heart to respond to the gospel of Jesus and believe. Holy Spirit, please do Your work of regeneration in her heart and implant faith so that she will come to Jesus in faith and commitment that comes from conversion. Jesus, draw near to this wife and woo her to You. Amen.
In the love of God, I came to you from the learning you have of the letter, hoping that by this lowly means it would speak to your heart of these teaching you have spoken of that are contrary to Scriptures. Whether it has reach you or not, will thoroughly remain to be seen. Godly sorrow of repentance is what God is looking for here, which in His longsuffering love is mercifully offering to you. You spoke out publicly, it would have been appropriate to publicly confess & denounce this evil, but you choose to say, "I'm not led to reply" covering yourself & not with God's Spirit
Friend, there's a spirit leading you, but its not Holy, & your teaching is a witness to it.
Richard
By your statement; " we are eventually going to be sinless but we are being sanctified now while on earth"
It appears your confirming this unfounded scriptural belief of continuing in sin as a way of life unto death. Where do you read of this type of sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience in the Scripture?
If I'm wrong please correct me, but if not, you strengthening yourself, her & others in unbelief & joining with her in this heresy
John 5:44 you're preferring & honoring one another, than the Truth of God's words, dishonoring God, His sacrifice & the life of Christ. Who's life says 1Pet 4:1 read the context of this Scripture for His people G3973
A primary verb ("pause"); to stop (transitively or intransitively), i.e. Restrain, quit, desist, come to an end -- cease, leave, refrain. is no longer stirred by its incitements and seductions,
Finally & to all
In all that God has so graciously reveal on this subject in past conversations, I had hope that though you may not be as of now a believer in holiness of heart in this life, one would consider these truths & at least cease to be a advocator of this heresy.
for it is one thing to not believe & quiet another to be a teacher of it.
Let me give you my understanding about that.
Firstly the anc grks had no word for "translate" like in mod. grk, they used the word "interprete" instead, see Matthew 5:40-41.
Secondly, lets see the verse in 1 Cor 14:13, "Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.". I honestly do not think that Paul suggests here to christians in Corinth to learn foreign languages. It seems to me that he suggests that they pray to God to give them the interpretation of what is said.
Lets see another verse, 1 Cor 12:7-11, where Paul speaks about spiritual gifts that God gives to His church. Verses 10-11, "(10) To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;TO ANOTHER THE INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES: (11) But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."
So interpretation of tongues is a spiritual gift given by the Spirit. Of course one who understands the language that is spoken can also interprete but in such a case it is not the gift that is working but the knowledge of that man.
Whether people in various congregations seem to you that they don't speak in real tongues, that has nothing to do with what is written. And it is written that God gives interpretation of tongues no matter how people use that gift, properly or not.
GBU
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
Lots of people, church goers, different denominations. All saying they're are Christians, when there is only One Christ.
Glory to God on earth as it is in Heaven. God Bless and keep striving.
Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..
(words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.
( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)
( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..
(book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.
( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
(scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.
(prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.
( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.
( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
(preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
When someone sins, they say without saying to GOD that they don't have faith in Him. When God says He will lead a way of escape, not giving you too much you can't handle. And we can do all things through Christ, we just got to do our part and RESIST the temptations of the devil and he will flee.
Romans 6:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
But like the Prodigal son or the lost sheep. If you do sin, repent and go forth and sin no more. Grace and Salvation will always be there for those who want it. So ya, you can lose your salvation, which is to be saved from sin. When one is in sin, they like I said above ask God in prayer for forgiveness...
We just got to keep away from the sin business as a Pastor once said. If you stumble, get up, keep on striving.
I encourage you to look up a fella who since passed away. His name Finis Dake, we got to get rid of that idea that the Bible is hard to understand. Basic Bible teaching, made me realize English is a peculiar language. God Bless and Keep on striving, being Christlike in anything you do.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
What is salvation?
What are you SAVED from?
Your saved from DEATH.
How are you SAVED from DEATH?
You were a JOINT HEIR with Christ at his RESURRECTION.
Only ONE BODY was raised at his resurrection.
You became the body of Christ, no longer having a heart of stone, but Christ gave you his heart, no longer a carnal mind, Christ gave you his mind.
Your carnal mind is DESTROYED by constantly repeating the scriptures that affirm the WORKS of his resurrection.
John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou gavest me; I HAVE GIVEN THEM, that they may be ONE as we are ONE.
Isaiah 59:21 As for me (the Father), this is my covenant with them (his creation, by the works of the cross of Christ), the words that I (the Father) have put in your (Christ's) mouth, SHALL NOT depart out of your (Christ's) mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED (being resurrected as joint heirs with Christ), nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED, henceforth and forever.
The wages of SIN (unbelief) is DEATH.
The gift of BELIEF is eternal LIFE.
1 Timothy 6:16 Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light......
John 17:22 .... that they may be ONE, as we are ONE.
God BLESS YOU as LIGHT replaces DARKNESS!
Conclusion on my reply on the David and Goliath issue in 2 Samuel 21:19: and I quote the text note, "l 19" (referring to the word Jaare-Oregim) "Or son of Jair the weaver." "m 19 Hebrew and Septuagant; 1 Chron. 20:5 son of Jair killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath."
the footnote: "Elhanan...... killed Goliath. See NIV text note" (above paragraph). "Since it is clear from 1 Sa 17 that David killed Goliath, an earlier copyist probably misread the Hebrew for "Lamhi the brother of" (see 1 Ch 20:5) "as the Bethlehemite" (in Hebrew the word for "killed" stands first in the clause). Jaare Oregim. The Hebrew for "Oregim" also occurs at the end of the verse, where it is translated "weavers." An earlier copyist probably inserted it in the name by mistake, since 1 Ch.20:5 reads "Jair" (apparently correctly) instead of "Jaare-Oregim."
What I'm perceiving is that the KJV writers added "the brother of" because it obviously didn't make sense in the original writings, or those that the KJV copyist/s were translating from, that David AND his brother killed Goliath at different times. Actually, it was the NIV writers who put forth the effort , made evident by the text and footnotes, to clear up the matter. I don't see anything purposely deceptive here that warrants the term "corrupt," in regards to the NIV.
Yet, I could be totally off the mark here, since I'm not, and don't claim to be an authority in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc; nor one who desires to decipher nearly every word or passage, for that matter, from the Bible; not my gift. I do though, genuinely appreciate and am grateful for those who do. I've learned much from you. Sincere thanks, and I encourage you to continue this gift you've been blessed with.
When time allows I'll try to address the issue you brought to attention from Mark.
Peace
To clarify something, I have also a King James Bible which I use.
To get the point of answering your questions: My KJV says in 1 Samuel 17:49, "And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth." The word "it" has a different font, meaning, I think, it was added for easier understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV I have says, "As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell face down on the ground.
I don't see anything so far that causes any confusion to the meaning as to what occurred here. David slew Goliath.
My KJV in 2 Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaerogim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. The words "the brother of" are also in a different font, as to give indication they were added for clarification. Also the word "was", referring to the spear has a different font.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV says, "In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gitite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.
So yes, there is some confusion here. But the "corrupt" NIV text note and footnote appears to clean it up.
I'll send it on another page.
Peace
The issue is a woeful lack of knowledge of the Scriptures. God says that His very own people, those who call themselves by His Name - Christians - will be destroyed for a lack of knowledge ( Hos. 4:6). He says that it is a failure on their part to develop a love for the Truth that will be their downfall. He says that He will afflict them with a strong delusion causing them to believe in grievous lies (2 Thes. 2:10-11) which will lead them far astray from Him and His reward of Eternal Life in Paradise where He and all the heavenly angels reside. He defines what it means to be a saint and what it truly takes to receive Salvation when He refers to the saints who patiently endured misery and hardship in their lives due to their steadfast obedience to the 10 Commandments.( Rev. 14:12)
Yes, there are few Christians who live today as Jesus lived ( 1 Jn. 2:6), obeying the 10 Commandments and enduring whatever hardship may come as reward for their efforts. They walk the narrow path with Jesus Christ at their side and they carry a message of Truth, a message of obedience and endurance for all to witness so that no one will have any excuse of ignorance when the time comes to say "Lord, Lord ..." and they will be rejected by the Great Judge for their working of sin into the surrounding society.
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The body cannot heal, because it cannot make itself sick. It NEEDS no healing. Its health or sickness depends entirely on how the mind perceives, and the purpose that the mind would use it for.
When we limit ourselves we are not of one mind, and that is sickness. Yet sickness not of the body, but of the mind. All forms of sickness are signs that the mind is split and does not accept a unified purpose. Healing is the way in which the separation is overcome. Separation is overcome by union. It cannot be overcome by separating. The decision to unite must be unequivocal, or the mind itself is divided and not whole. Sickness and separation must be healed by love and union. Nothing else can heal as God established healing. Without Him there is no healing, for there is NO love.
The body's healing will occur because its cause is gone. And now without a cause, it cannot come again in different form. The body's cause is UNFORGIVENESS of God's Sons. God has only one Son. If all His creations are His Sons, then everyone must be an integral part of the whole Sonship; and the Sonship in Its Oneness transcends the sum of its parts.
Attempt not to ask the Holy Spirit to heal the body, for this would merely be to accept the ego's belief that the body is the proper aim of healing. Ask, rather, that the Holy Spirit teach you the right PERCEPTION of the body, for perception alone can be distorted. Only perception can be sick, because only perception can be wrong.
Peace
When I was a child, I recall birds flying into my living room window, resulting in the same effect as you've described. Mom said that it was due to the effects of them eating the tiny red berries from a bush outside; they seemed to make them a bit goofy.
I'm unaware of what and whose teachings you are referring to, but I will speak in regards to your main concern about the cause of bodily afflictions. But before I do, I must say that what I say is not readily accepted by many, and may appear as offensive. But, be assured, I include myself, of course, when I appear to suffer in the body.
Sickness is merely another example of our insistence on asking guidance of a teacher who does not know the answer. It is a way of demonstrating we can be hurt. It is a witness to our frailty, our vulnerability, and our extreme need to depend on this external guidance. Yet the body is healed when we come to God WITHOUT it and join the Mind in which all healing rests.
Sickness is a sign, a shadow of an evil thought that seems to have reality and to be just, according to the usage of the world. It is external proof of inner "sins" and witnesses to unforgiving thoughts that injure and would hurt the Son of God. Sickness is meaningful only if the two basic premises on which the ego's interpretation are true; that the body is for attack, and that you are a body. Without these premises sickness is inconceivable.
The guiltless mind cannot suffer. Being sane, the mind heals the body because it (the mind) has been healed. The sane mind cannot conceive of illness because it cannot conceive of attacking anyone or anything. Therefore, our health is the result of our desire to see out brother with no blood upon his hands, nor guilt upon his heart made heavy with the proof of sin. Love cannot suffer, because love cannot attack. The remembrance of love therefore brings invulnerability with it.
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Salvation is a very important question, and should be of the utmost importance in every Christians life.
Don't trust your salvation to anyone. There is "no shortcut" or "free ticket" to salvation! Read the bible for yourself, and learn to pray directly to God thru his Son Jesus Christ, and IF you are sincere, you will learn the answer to your salvation question from God himself.
I can point out a very important verse regarding losing salvation:
Hebrews 10:26
"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Learn to Fear God.
Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."
Learn to Love God.
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
In summary, Become obedient to God, Repent from sin, Fear God, Love God, read your bible and pray, and you will be doing well.
Some say you can, others say you can't. What are your thoughts?
Great question! How do you interpret something you don't understand? You can't. It is impossible to interpret something without first understanding what is being spoken.
Something that might help in understanding 1 Corinthians 14:13 is that the word interpret means explain. It does not mean translate. There are three point-blank facts the bible teaches on speaking in tongues.
Number 1: It is a known language. Not necessarily known to the person speaking, but it is a human language.
Number 2: It is a sign.
Number 3: It is to unbelievers, not believers.
The only example given to us is in Acts 2:1-13. Those who were speaking in tongues were speaking in known languages. There was no need for anyone to interpret or translate the tongues being spoken. In fact, in Acts 2:8, it says "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"
You see, they were not looking for someone to interpret or translate what was being said. Those who were speaking in tongues were speaking in known languages and it was understood by those who were hearing them speak. Acts 2:9-11 gives us a list of the languages from which they were speaking. And then Acts 2:12 says that "they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?"
So, they were all amazed, and they were in doubt, saying one to another, what does this mean? Again, they weren't asking for anyone to interpret what they heard. They were needing an explanation. They're not asking what they were saying when they asked, "what does this mean?" They said we can hear them in our own languages, but what does this mean? They admit that it's a miracle, but they really don't know what's going on.
It's sad that what many call "speaking in tongues" today is not the tongues the bible teaches. The tongues in the bible were actual known human languages, not a bunch of babbling gibberish sounds that no one, not even the person speaking can understand.
Hope this helps!
Acts 17:29 states:
Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man.
God has many warnings in scripture regarding not making idols of created beings or heavenly objects such as the moon and stars. This verse shows how God cannot be reduced to a man made concept or picture.
Colossians 1:15 states: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." This verse is discussing Christ who although He came in a man is part of the Godhead; so certainly we shouldn't have images of Him either; especially to be venerated or worshipped. As to whether; say a stained glass window is equally offensive we have to look to the heart of those who are attending a church service; as sadly some even with such an object as that will find some feature that seems to have some supernatural light in the image which is idolotry. The same could be said for the Apostles on such imagery; a Protestant wouldn't have any desire normally to make it an idol; but other denominations such as Greek Orthodox have statues of "saints" which clearly constitute worship that is against scripture.
John 1:18 states that no man has ever seen God but in Christ we in a sense see Him. His attributes including the Godhead are said to be clear from creation ( Romans 1:20). This was said to be known from the time of Creation according to the beginning of this verse. This shows that only later the nations departed from the knowledge that Adam and his immediate descendants would have instilled in them; there was deliberate rebellion against the Creator throughout the earth; both after the garden and after the flood with the tower of Babel and then God confusing the languages and scattering men throughout the earth (see Genesis 10:25 on likely splitting off of continents and dispersion of men).
I was prayerfully considering whether of not to reply to your post concerning me. The only thing I would like to know is waht I have said that you think is unscriptural in my post concerning God's Holiness.
If you would please let me know this, I would appreciate it.
I want to address that He is completely "INDEPENDENT"
This involves that He is completely self-sufficient within Himself and also completely free of anyone or anything outside of Himself. No one can force His will nor make demands of Him. He owns everything and everyone, but does not rely on anything or anyone He has made for anything. He has no need of anything outside of Himself. He is completely self-satisfied and self-determining. No one can inform him of anything He does not already know or give Him anything he needs. All of His decisions come from the endless fountain of His wisdom and pre-determined design for what He has created. He is Self-existing-His life comes from within Himself. His life is not something separate from Himself but wholly Who He Is-LIFE. This aspect of His being-self-existence, freedom, and independence, self-sustenance, and self-satisfaction is called 'aseity' in theology.
Yet, in His love, He desires us, not because He needs us, because we need Him and He is what will satisfy us in all ways. He has everything we truly need and He supplies us with our daily provision and with loving families and friends to share His love with. He freely gives without compulsion to His children bought by Christ for His glory.
Act 17:24-28 speaks to this freedom from need and God's independence from what exists outside of Himself.
God speaks to Job of His sovereignty and independence in chapter 38.
When we attempt to describe Who God is as to His essential nature, there is much overlap with the words and their meanings that we use to describe Him. This is because He is a Whole, all that we could say of Him mis Who He is in His Essence and Everything that is true of Him is necessary of His essential nature to be a unified whole Being.
"INFINITE"
God is infinite in every way. So when I said that God is holy, His holiness is not bound by any limitation. Therefore, in regards to His separateness or uniqueness as part of being holy, there is no one now or will there ever be anyone who equals Him in His holiness. We are made holy, set apart in Christ, and also being sanctified in this life, and in eternity we will be sinless and made completely whole as glorified humans. But God is in a class by Himself. We cannot 'become like the Most High' as Satan wished to become. Our holiness in humanly, His is Divine.
God is infinite in wisdom, understanding and knowledge. He is infinite in love and goodness, This is true of all attributes. If He did not possess these attributes to the infinite degree, then there would be room for growth in His character because He is changeless. Therefore He is forever boundless and unlimited in all that He is. Time and space do not limit Him.
He is infinite Life and boundless. All life comes from Him. Eternally He is supreme in all that He is. His power, presence, and knowledge is without limit.
Psalm 147:5 speaks of His infinite knowledge. 1 Kings 8:27 says that God cannot be contained either by time, space, or any other way. Eph. 3:8 says that His the riches of His Being are unfathomable.
Dear Heavenly Father, we are asking You today in the name of Jesus to soften Fallmorning's wife's heart to respond to the gospel of Jesus and believe. Holy Spirit, please do Your work of regeneration in her heart and implant faith so that she will come to Jesus in faith and commitment that comes from conversion. Jesus, draw near to this wife and woo her to You. Amen.
As I read both of your post & waited
Here is what I received, John 5:44
Gigi
In the love of God, I came to you from the learning you have of the letter, hoping that by this lowly means it would speak to your heart of these teaching you have spoken of that are contrary to Scriptures. Whether it has reach you or not, will thoroughly remain to be seen. Godly sorrow of repentance is what God is looking for here, which in His longsuffering love is mercifully offering to you. You spoke out publicly, it would have been appropriate to publicly confess & denounce this evil, but you choose to say, "I'm not led to reply" covering yourself & not with God's Spirit
Friend, there's a spirit leading you, but its not Holy, & your teaching is a witness to it.
Richard
By your statement; " we are eventually going to be sinless but we are being sanctified now while on earth"
It appears your confirming this unfounded scriptural belief of continuing in sin as a way of life unto death. Where do you read of this type of sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience in the Scripture?
If I'm wrong please correct me, but if not, you strengthening yourself, her & others in unbelief & joining with her in this heresy
John 5:44 you're preferring & honoring one another, than the Truth of God's words, dishonoring God, His sacrifice & the life of Christ. Who's life says 1Pet 4:1 read the context of this Scripture for His people G3973
A primary verb ("pause"); to stop (transitively or intransitively), i.e. Restrain, quit, desist, come to an end -- cease, leave, refrain. is no longer stirred by its incitements and seductions,
Finally & to all
In all that God has so graciously reveal on this subject in past conversations, I had hope that though you may not be as of now a believer in holiness of heart in this life, one would consider these truths & at least cease to be a advocator of this heresy.
for it is one thing to not believe & quiet another to be a teacher of it.