I need prayer for strength I'm trying to stop taking pain meds and it's been a struggle I've had 7 surgeries in the last year so I'm in pain but I need to stop taking them and I need prayers please
Pray for my soul. Demonic attacks coming my way. I am having problems in this area coming from demonic encounters. Depression and oppression giving headway upon my temple frame. I am a woman of God called out by God to do his work. God has called me into the office of a Prophet. There are many things I am still learning about this office. Help me however the Lord leads. Forever grateful and God bless.
I read the article you shared and would like to clarify a few points regarding the Passover. According to Luke 22:15-16, Jesus wanted to eat the Passover with His disciples before He suffered, but He did not partake in it He knew He would die at the same time as the Passover lambs, so He would not be there on the 15th.
In Exodus 12, we see that lambs were killed on the 14th of Nisan, known as Passover Day, which is also a preparation day for the 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread that begins on the 15th. The Passover meal was consumed on the night of the 15th.
John 18:28 shows that on the 14th, the same day Jesus had the Last Supper in the morning the priests would not enter the judgment hall because they would be defiled and could not catch the blood of the Passover lambs and pour it into the altar or eat the Passover if they were defiled.
The article's author is mistaken in claiming that Jesus and His disciples ate the Passover on Tuesday, as Scripture does not support this.
In summary, the 14th of Nisan is Passover Day and a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which begins on the 15th. The lambs were killed in the evening of the 14th any time after the sun started to go down.
Scripture is clear there were 5 days from when Jesus rode into Jerusalem to when He was crucified, the Scriptures should show if studied in my other post. He rode in on the first day of the week and He was crucified on the fifth day of the week this is what the Scripture tells us.
Prayer for protection from things trying to hurt me and ask for protection for me and all of my loved ones I pray for daily and often. I ask for prayer to complete my homework today and ask for protection me for this weekend while I am at drill. I ask for a good day for me and all of my family members I pray for daily and often and ask for protection from things trying to hinder me. I ask for all of these things in Lord Jesus Christ Name, amen.
Hi David A Smith, I will pray for you and your wife. I also had to go through this with my wife. Please keep praying and also read Romans through Philemon for doctrine and for instruction for to live by grace . Motivationaldoc on YouTube has great stuff for vertical. This Doctor must be bless from God, it helps us on a lot on health problems.
Here's a verse that will help you and you're wife get through this in Christ Jesus. God is good and he will make it come to pass.
Psalm 37:5
Commit thy way unto theLord; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
How you doing " E" ? I will pray for you. There are so many mountains God wants us to climb and sometimes it seems impossible, there's hope through the Lord Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit . We may not get a answer or it may not go the way we want it to go , God's ways are always right. Keep studying Romans through Philemon for doctrine and to grow in grace and pray none stop.
Please read this verse and remember God will make it pass what ever it is.
Psalm 37:5
Commit thy way unto theLord; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
Sadly, no, Jesus rose on Saturday just as the sun began to set.
You are very close to the correct timeline though.
Rather than explain myself, I will allow someone who has already done the research and fact checking to do it for me this time. I am tired and have been awake for many hours or I would normally do it myself.
To get a detailed and concise narrative with scriptural context copy and paste the following into your browser and hit return then click the first link to United Church of God and you will receive the context of what I believe, even though I am not a member of this organization.
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Please share your thoughts after you finish reading. Thanks.
Please remember me and my family my daughters and their families in your prayers please my mom and Magda and Tonya and her new born baby in your prayers
And the latter's (Chrysostom) Homilies on Galatians 2:17 is particularly telling, which I quote here:
"For though few are now circumcised, yet, by fasting and observing the sabbath with the Jews, they equally exclude themselves from grace... You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul's words, that the observance of the law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews? Is it that you fear the Law and abandonment of its letter? But you would not entertain this fear, did you not disparage faith as weak, and by itself powerless to save. A fear to omit the sabbath plainly shows that you fear the Law as still in force; and if the Law is needful, it is so as a whole, not in part, nor in one commandment only; and if as a whole, the righteousness which is by faith is little by little shut out. If you keep the sabbath, why not also be circumcised? And if circumcised, why not also offer sacrifices? If the Law is to be observed, it must be observed as a whole, or not at all."
Just forwarding the above, not only for the abolishing of the Law as pertaining to its currency post-Cross, but more particularly, that rejecting the Sabbath is not some new thing, but an observance by the early Church & those who belonged or taught since those days.
Thanks again for the reply, Woe. I have already shared why I believe the first day of the week was Jesus' resurrection day - and from the Scriptures given. And yes, I have received the evidence you have shared, & found it faulty in light of the Scriptures. Even 'God establishing the Sabbath Day at the close of Creation', is incorrect, as we only read that 'God rested (ceased) from His Work, blessed the seventh day and sanctified it (set it apart)' ( Genesis 2:1-3). But the Sabbath was only given at Mt Sinai to His people. If we say that Genesis 26:5 proves without doubt that the Laws & Sabbath remembrance was given to & observed by Abraham, then this belief must only be an assumption, since there is no Scripture to tell us what was given to Abraham. Even if I had to guess what Laws, commands & statutes were given to him, mine too would just be a guess - and that is the sort of thing I avoid most vehemently, as it only breeds error & simply adds fuel to those desperately searching for verses to support their position.
The only clear Scripture relating to Christ's resurrection on the first day of the week is found in Mark 16:9 (to which we have found disagreement previously). Maybe a Greek scholar can confirm how they understand that verse, (taken from my Lexicon), whether
'Anastas de proi prote sabbatou, ephane proton Maria te Magdalene..' is read better,
or Anastas de, proi prote sabbatou ephane proton Maria te Magdalene..' is better read? Maybe, that might help us further.
The RCC may have changed the day of worship, according to them I presume, but Church history informs us that the early Church fathers in general, believed that the First Day of the Week was the occasion to worship & commune together. The Didache (Teachings of the Apostles), Ignatius of Antioch (AD 110), Justin Martyr (AD 155), & John Chrysostom (AD 395), are a few who held that view. Cont'd on Page 2.
Thank you Woe, all that you have written here is correct & I fully concur. We need to seriously consider what we read in the Bible, and by the Spirit's Help, to rightly understand it and divide it. Though, as we are here in a Bible Site to discuss matters pertaining to the Bible & our Christian walk, what we exchange here between each other, is purely to disseminate what we have learned & understood from the Word. And yes, the mirror needs to be continually before our faces, to see whether what we say to another, doesn't in fact bear upon us as well.
That is why, when in a discussion such as this, I take all Scripture into account, ensuring the basic elements of the subject are foundational. I find that if the foundation is incorrect or wobbly, then whatever is built thereon will very likely totter over & crumble. So, even when I say that the Decalogue, or all of God's Commandments were given to Israel & no one else, I know that it will immediately raise eyebrows by those who believe (or, taught) otherwise. And that is why we then delve into the Word to learn further. So, even through extensive discussions we might never come to agreement (& this is most often the case), we at least have presented arguments in support of our beliefs, for our learning, understanding & for any other interested reader's benefit. So no Ego here, neither with you nor me, just bringing out the Word of God.
But only the righteousness of the Law could be fulfilled in us - how? By holding onto the Law of sin & death? No, by those being led by God's Spirit, He Who applies the Law in a continual, greater & more perfect measure in those who belong to Christ.
And yes, God's Laws are eternal ("till the heavens & earth pass away"), but Jesus has fulfilled them for us perfectly (not just the sacrificial aspects only but what Israel & us could never keep from the Decalogue) & thus He was the only Sacrifice that could avail for us. If Jesus failed, we would fail because of the Law's demands - and there would be no hope for mankind. Why should we appeal to a Law that only revealed our sin & brought death, rather, we ought to listen & obey the Spirit of Life Who tells us daily, constantly how to obey & please the Father.
So, I understand your reference to Revelation 21:1-5, pertaining to the Law that is eternal. But do we neglect the many passages, which I've already quoted, that show us the finality of the Law & its demands at the Cross, as Jesus ushered in the New Covenant administered by the Life-giving Spirit (without the Law's weaknesses & leading men to death)?
Woe, since your responses are scattered in this thread, I will refer to them individually rather than collectively.
We again refer to Matthew 5:17-20. The questions we must ask when reading this passage (or, any passage of Scripture) is, 'what is being referred to here?' Verse 17: 'Law & the Prophets'. Jesus is referring to what we understand is the breakdown of the Tanakh, namely, the Torah (the Law - Pentateuch), the Nevi'im (the Prophetical Books), and the Ketuvim (the Writings - others). Here, Jesus speaks only of the Torah & Nevi'im, and these He would not destroy (nor will they ever be destroyed), until all is fulfilled by Him. If you agree to this understanding, then we have a basis to proceed.
The Law that Jesus referred to, was not simply the Ten Commandments, but all the Law of God given to Israel, just as 'the Prophets' could not be restricted to certain prophetical books but to all that was given to Israel for their present & future state. If we restrict the Law to the Decalogue only, then we are presuming that this was of much greater worth than the other Laws given by God. Whereas, the Decalogue was a brief snapshot given to a people, once under the rigors of slavery & hardship, who had all but forgotten the Living God Who had never forgotten them. The Decalogue was a reminder to them of God's essential requirements for His people as they made their way to idolatrous Canaan, also showing to them that the Law could not ever bring about the desired outcome for holy living, simply because sinful flesh can never fulfil what that Law demanded (being "weak through the flesh"); that the Law should have pointed to them of their need of a coming Savior, to condemn sin in the flesh, providing an escape from a Law that only entrapped the soul, not giving life (see Romans 8:3,4). Onto Page 2.
I hope you don't mind. Concerning the crucifixion and resurrection days, if we compare all the gospels, all four give the clearest truth.
In John 12:1-12, we learn that six days before Passover, Jesus visited the house of Mary, Martha, and Lazarus in Bethany. The following day, He rode into Jerusalem, five days before Passover. This event was significant because it coincided with the 10th of Nisan, the day the lambs were selected and held until the 14th when they would be sacrificed for Passover, the same time Jesus died on the cross, Exodus 12:1-14. These Passover lambs were eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread the day Israel went out of Egypt.
Sunday Matthew 21:1-17, Mark 11:1-11, Luke 19:28-22:7, and John 12:12-50.
Monday, Matthew 21:18-19Mark 11:12-19 This was the 11th, four days before Passover the 2nd day of the week.
Tuesday, Matthew 21:20 to 26:2 Mark 11:20 to 14:2 This was the 12th, three days before Passover, the third day of the week.
Wednesday, Matthew 26:6-16Mark 14:3-11Luke 22:1-6 This was the 13th, and at sunset is Passover day the 14th. The Last Supper, the arrest, sent to Pilot, the crucifixion, and placed in the tomb were all on the 14th, Passover day. Friday would be the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Jesus was in the tomb Thur. Day, Fri, Night, Fri. Day, Sat. Night, Sat. Day, Sun. Night, three days, and three nights. Jesus rose on the first day of the week and fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits, Leviticus 23:10-14 This coincides with what Jesus told Mary, touch me not, He had not ascended to His Father, John 20:17. The Feast of First Fruits as we see is on the first day after the Sabbath after Passover Day.
If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, the women could have gone to the tomb on Friday because Friday is a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath.
Lord Jesus I'm overwhelmed, worn out and weary and so I pray based on Psalm 61:2 "From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed: lead me to the rock that is higher than I." Asking for extra strong protection and breakthrough for us and all in need. Please help K (you know everything), H and L (you know), myself (you know) and also at church (speak to M). Bless, protect and empower our week of prayer and fasting. Thank you.
Prayer for a complete deliverance and ask that all doors that I have opened are closed and ask for grace for opening them. I ask for intercession that all of these doors are closed and I can get free from all of the manipulations that have been hindering my life from them. I ask for all of these things in Lord Jesus Christ Name, amen.
It is my belief that the 3 heads of the Eagle in 2 Esdras 11 are the three primary religious factions that were prominent at the time. In my opening comment about Mystery Babylon being Rome I didn't expand on this.
Islam, Christianity and Judaism were these three factions. History shows that they all played a major role in Asia Minor, the Levant and Israel. The entire region was under the rule of these three throughout history and can be confirmed through the study of such. The center head of the Eagle I believe is Israel as indicated by the scattering of the people at the destruction of the 2nd temple and the other empires conquering of it. The head on the right consumes the head on the left, so I think this was the Ottoman Empire overtaking the Byzantine Empire. In order of context of history this melds well, but without going back and looking and studying more and going through what I already have researched again I am going to be moderate in my solidification of my stance on this.
Notably also, Esdras is told that the vision of the Eagle is the same as the vision given to the prophet Daniel.
The feathers and wings are in fact rulers of the monarchies, republic's and empires of these three religious factions or of the center head or a combination of the three. In any case, most of what pertains to this vision has already taken place, up until the lion roars. Then we have a fourth beast mentioned, which I believe it the RCC, Mystery Babylon which is the remaining body of the eagle. I do have the identifying characteristics of the historical leaders recorded in a saved file with their counterpart wings and feather, that precisely align with the narrative. I may share those, but the content of the information dealing with that is very large and the allowed room for sharing things on here in the text box is extremely small, so I would need to condense my research first. Also links are not allowed so that presents a challenge to citing my sources and evidence.
Jesus didn't idly tell us that the law wouldn't change. He was talking about God's Ten Commandments not changing. The laws that changed were the temple, the priesthood, the sacrificial days and rites pertaining to them.
Matthew 5 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
All things have not yet been fulfilled and heaven and earth still stand. Below is the fulfillment Jesus was talking about. He wasn't talking about His Crucifixion and Resurrection. The key to understanding that scripture is that heaven and earth must pass away first before the law, Gods Law changes.
Revelation 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Yes, Jesus is High Priest of the order of Melchizedek. He is the only intercessor between man and God. No man on earth holds any position higher than any other man and no man on earth sits in Jesus' stead or can absolve sin. No man is to take on the name Father in a religious fashion. There are only those who study and are on milk and others who are on meat. Then there are others who consume and/or share tainted word and still others who any and all reject religion outright. There are three major religious faction in the world. Islam, Christianity and Judaism. All three are in error and teach deceptive and/or contrary doctrine to Christ.
Judaism seeks to hold onto the Old Covenant which is done away with. Christianity seeks to replace the teaching of Christ with the doctrines of men and Islam seeks to rewrite the biblical narrative into their own false account. All three are called to Convert. If the Commandments of God are taken out of the way, there isn't anything to convert to. Jesus came to establish the law, not do away with it. What law? God's law. Jesus says if you want to enter into life keep the Commandments. They are not burdensome or difficult. This is what He demonstrated to us. Furthermore, before Abraham and Moses, there was also other ordinances that we know God instituted and meant to be kept. Unclean and Clean animals for example. God says He is Holy, we must be Holy too. He calls unclean animals an abomination. Noah was told to take 7 pair of clean animals onto the Ark. 2 pair of unclean. God established this ordinance. Noah was aware of what unclean and clean animals were. Likewise, Gods 10 Commandments also were established by God prior to the Covenant made with Abraham. Don't think that you can do abominable things or defraud God of what He Commands. There is no law against doing good and following God's law is good. Christ didn't remove God's law. He removed sin laws, days pertaining to them and sacrifice for them.
Prayer for protection from witchcraft and ask for Grace for all of the doors I have open and ask for intercession that all of these doors are closed. I ask for prayer for a protected drill weekend and ask that I have continuous prayer for this weekened and for the rest of this week to complete my homework and that I complete all of it before the end of the week. I ask for prayer to have all of my bills paid on time and I will have the finances to pay them. I ask for increase in finances and debt cancellation. I ask for all of these things in Lord Jesus Christ Name, amen. Thank you all for praying for me and my family and I ask that God will bless you for praying.
The scripture does not tell us that Jesus was resurrected on Sunday. That is a misnomer and a traditional view that people hold, because it is what many religiously derived institutions teach. However it goes against what the scriptures themselves reveal. I have attempted to demonstrate this to you, but you have declined to accept the evidence I shared, which is your right to do. Careful study of the scriptures will reveal the truth and we are warned not to teach false doctrine and deceptive narrative. We won't be held guiltless for doing so. So it is imperative that one claiming to be Christian carefully evaluate and discern all aspects of certain events and timing to glean the truth from them. God established the sabbath day at the close of Creation. Scripture reveals to us that God doesn't change. The sabbath was instituted prior to the Creation of man. It is man that broke the covenant and it is man that thinks he can change God's Sabbath day. It is the Anti Christ that seeks to change times and laws. What laws? God's Commandments. What times? The Sabbath day. The one Commandment that tell us to REMEMBER what day God sanctified.
The RCC admits that they changed the day of worship to Sunday. However, God never gave man the authority to do so. This change was not enacted by Christ. Nor was Christ resurrected on Sunday. People make these claims because they are ignorant of the other scriptures that help reveal these things. Many simply look at the scriptures surrounding the crucifixion timeline, never considering there is other scripture elsewhere that provide necessary keys to establishing that timeline correctly. So they err due to their ego driven ignorance, thinking they understand things when in reality they lack the wisdom and due diligence to discover these hidden things to reveal the mystery and importance of including those thing into the crucifixion narrative. There is a narrow path that is missed by a majority of people and most enter the broad path.
As Christians we all learn at different levels of degree on what the scriptures reveal. Many only listen to what they are told is truth without studying the word themselves. Even those that do study often read into scripture things they want it to say or impart their own agenda that deviates from what is said. None of us are perfectly endowed with the knowledge and ability to discern all aspects of how the scripture and these things affect ones faith and belief in what they know or think they know. I can be wrong, you can be wrong, others can be wrong. The most important thing anyone who studies and shares scripture needs to remember is that faith is a personal discovery process that is a never ending journey comprised of multifaceted and numerous avenues of exploration. A true Christian will not only challenge others to evaluate their understanding of what they think they know, but also challenge themselves to continually re-asses their own understanding and knowledge on matters pertaining to what they study, learn & share. There also is no shortage of people who use religion and scripture to defraud others and promote lies or misconceptions intentionally or otherwise. Some do it for a paycheck, others do it for ego and still others do it out of spite for religion itself and many do it out of ignorance. As scripture says; God will judge us all and some are on milk, while others are eating the meat. When views clash in discussion it's easy to want to push the narrative you might hold and attempt to force it on someone else who might see things in different aspect, leading to unprofitable and damaging consequence. We all are ultimately convinced in our own mind what is right or what is wrong and God will sort us all out at the appointed time. Not all people who claim the name of Christ belong to him. He knows who are his and who are not. So until God sorts it out, there will always be division & varying degree of faith and spiritual discernment. Don't let Ego play.
Yes, it is always good to pray for our leaders, countrymen, and our nation. May truth and justice prevail. May our leaders be protected from harm from opponents, and may God bring revival to our nation that produces repentance, faith, and love for God and neighbors.
Day 23 January 23, 2025 Lamentations 3:22-23 KJV God's Faithfulness West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
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I Pray thanking God for his steadfast faithfulness in my life.
Lamentations 3:22 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" God's mercy to all the world reassures Affirmation of Faith. God wanting to save you." A refrence example scripture Jeremiah 30:11 KJV. "For the Lord is good Psalms 100:5 KJV."
Principle Holy: To all religions. Always performaning righteousness, holiness in actions "to do it" of God. To have faith, hope, love."
Lamentations 3:23 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" God is always there for you everyday." Surety amd Savior to his people. The Bible to be the Inspired and only infallible written Word of God.
Please remember my daughters and their families in your prayers please remember my mother as well and please continue to Pray for Tonya and her new baby they are in the hospital and slowly doing better Praise GOD for that and please pray for Magda for quick safe travel here
Asking for prayers for the traumatized political hostages that were just released after being illegally arrested and tortured for 4 years under the Biden administration. This is the same political cult that tries hard to normalize horrific sin that God despises like child abuse, murdering babies, euthenasia, pedophilia, violence through its antifa and blm divisions and human trafficking, resulting in losing 300,000 children. God does not stand for this sodom and gomorrah-like lawless behavior. They deny and lie and push propaganda that some actually believe is true. The lies from satan are circulating not because they are true, but its followers want to believe they are true. Someone even circulated a lie on this forum by falsely claiming that peaceful unarmed protestors "destroyed the Capitol." Truth tellers know the Capitol building was not destroyed. Pray that scales will fall off the eyes of the blind and that God's people will embrace the truth and stop lying. Pray for protection for the current administration that the cult won't keep scheming to harm him much like the self-righteous Pharisees in the days of Jesus. They claim to be offended by the truth, but lies are offensive to God.
I read the article you shared and would like to clarify a few points regarding the Passover. According to Luke 22:15-16, Jesus wanted to eat the Passover with His disciples before He suffered, but He did not partake in it He knew He would die at the same time as the Passover lambs, so He would not be there on the 15th.
In Exodus 12, we see that lambs were killed on the 14th of Nisan, known as Passover Day, which is also a preparation day for the 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread that begins on the 15th. The Passover meal was consumed on the night of the 15th.
John 18:28 shows that on the 14th, the same day Jesus had the Last Supper in the morning the priests would not enter the judgment hall because they would be defiled and could not catch the blood of the Passover lambs and pour it into the altar or eat the Passover if they were defiled.
The article's author is mistaken in claiming that Jesus and His disciples ate the Passover on Tuesday, as Scripture does not support this.
In summary, the 14th of Nisan is Passover Day and a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which begins on the 15th. The lambs were killed in the evening of the 14th any time after the sun started to go down.
Scripture is clear there were 5 days from when Jesus rode into Jerusalem to when He was crucified, the Scriptures should show if studied in my other post. He rode in on the first day of the week and He was crucified on the fifth day of the week this is what the Scripture tells us.
God bless,
RLW
Here's a verse that will help you and you're wife get through this in Christ Jesus. God is good and he will make it come to pass.
Psalm 37:5
Commit thy way unto theLord; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
God bless ....
Ray
Please read this verse and remember God will make it pass what ever it is.
Psalm 37:5
Commit thy way unto theLord; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
Ray, in Christ Jesus
Sadly, no, Jesus rose on Saturday just as the sun began to set.
You are very close to the correct timeline though.
Rather than explain myself, I will allow someone who has already done the research and fact checking to do it for me this time. I am tired and have been awake for many hours or I would normally do it myself.
To get a detailed and concise narrative with scriptural context copy and paste the following into your browser and hit return then click the first link to United Church of God and you will receive the context of what I believe, even though I am not a member of this organization.
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Please share your thoughts after you finish reading. Thanks.
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Colossians 3:13 KJV
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" How to forgive yourself, to Repent, Correction to be in the Love of God. To want & do, obey God and follow him. Ephesians 4:32 KJV
Encourages not to be circumstances, also this pertaining to allowing people to enter into God's Church to see Jesus Christ, learn and believe.
2 Corinthians 2:10 KJV To see and believe in Jesus Christ is God
We believe that the only means of being cleansed from sin is through repentance and faith is the precious Blood of Jesus Christ.
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And the latter's (Chrysostom) Homilies on Galatians 2:17 is particularly telling, which I quote here:
"For though few are now circumcised, yet, by fasting and observing the sabbath with the Jews, they equally exclude themselves from grace... You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul's words, that the observance of the law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews? Is it that you fear the Law and abandonment of its letter? But you would not entertain this fear, did you not disparage faith as weak, and by itself powerless to save. A fear to omit the sabbath plainly shows that you fear the Law as still in force; and if the Law is needful, it is so as a whole, not in part, nor in one commandment only; and if as a whole, the righteousness which is by faith is little by little shut out. If you keep the sabbath, why not also be circumcised? And if circumcised, why not also offer sacrifices? If the Law is to be observed, it must be observed as a whole, or not at all."
Just forwarding the above, not only for the abolishing of the Law as pertaining to its currency post-Cross, but more particularly, that rejecting the Sabbath is not some new thing, but an observance by the early Church & those who belonged or taught since those days.
Thanks again for the reply, Woe. I have already shared why I believe the first day of the week was Jesus' resurrection day - and from the Scriptures given. And yes, I have received the evidence you have shared, & found it faulty in light of the Scriptures. Even 'God establishing the Sabbath Day at the close of Creation', is incorrect, as we only read that 'God rested (ceased) from His Work, blessed the seventh day and sanctified it (set it apart)' ( Genesis 2:1-3). But the Sabbath was only given at Mt Sinai to His people. If we say that Genesis 26:5 proves without doubt that the Laws & Sabbath remembrance was given to & observed by Abraham, then this belief must only be an assumption, since there is no Scripture to tell us what was given to Abraham. Even if I had to guess what Laws, commands & statutes were given to him, mine too would just be a guess - and that is the sort of thing I avoid most vehemently, as it only breeds error & simply adds fuel to those desperately searching for verses to support their position.
The only clear Scripture relating to Christ's resurrection on the first day of the week is found in Mark 16:9 (to which we have found disagreement previously). Maybe a Greek scholar can confirm how they understand that verse, (taken from my Lexicon), whether
'Anastas de proi prote sabbatou, ephane proton Maria te Magdalene..' is read better,
or Anastas de, proi prote sabbatou ephane proton Maria te Magdalene..' is better read? Maybe, that might help us further.
The RCC may have changed the day of worship, according to them I presume, but Church history informs us that the early Church fathers in general, believed that the First Day of the Week was the occasion to worship & commune together. The Didache (Teachings of the Apostles), Ignatius of Antioch (AD 110), Justin Martyr (AD 155), & John Chrysostom (AD 395), are a few who held that view. Cont'd on Page 2.
That is why, when in a discussion such as this, I take all Scripture into account, ensuring the basic elements of the subject are foundational. I find that if the foundation is incorrect or wobbly, then whatever is built thereon will very likely totter over & crumble. So, even when I say that the Decalogue, or all of God's Commandments were given to Israel & no one else, I know that it will immediately raise eyebrows by those who believe (or, taught) otherwise. And that is why we then delve into the Word to learn further. So, even through extensive discussions we might never come to agreement (& this is most often the case), we at least have presented arguments in support of our beliefs, for our learning, understanding & for any other interested reader's benefit. So no Ego here, neither with you nor me, just bringing out the Word of God.
But only the righteousness of the Law could be fulfilled in us - how? By holding onto the Law of sin & death? No, by those being led by God's Spirit, He Who applies the Law in a continual, greater & more perfect measure in those who belong to Christ.
And yes, God's Laws are eternal ("till the heavens & earth pass away"), but Jesus has fulfilled them for us perfectly (not just the sacrificial aspects only but what Israel & us could never keep from the Decalogue) & thus He was the only Sacrifice that could avail for us. If Jesus failed, we would fail because of the Law's demands - and there would be no hope for mankind. Why should we appeal to a Law that only revealed our sin & brought death, rather, we ought to listen & obey the Spirit of Life Who tells us daily, constantly how to obey & please the Father.
So, I understand your reference to Revelation 21:1-5, pertaining to the Law that is eternal. But do we neglect the many passages, which I've already quoted, that show us the finality of the Law & its demands at the Cross, as Jesus ushered in the New Covenant administered by the Life-giving Spirit (without the Law's weaknesses & leading men to death)?
Woe, since your responses are scattered in this thread, I will refer to them individually rather than collectively.
We again refer to Matthew 5:17-20. The questions we must ask when reading this passage (or, any passage of Scripture) is, 'what is being referred to here?' Verse 17: 'Law & the Prophets'. Jesus is referring to what we understand is the breakdown of the Tanakh, namely, the Torah (the Law - Pentateuch), the Nevi'im (the Prophetical Books), and the Ketuvim (the Writings - others). Here, Jesus speaks only of the Torah & Nevi'im, and these He would not destroy (nor will they ever be destroyed), until all is fulfilled by Him. If you agree to this understanding, then we have a basis to proceed.
The Law that Jesus referred to, was not simply the Ten Commandments, but all the Law of God given to Israel, just as 'the Prophets' could not be restricted to certain prophetical books but to all that was given to Israel for their present & future state. If we restrict the Law to the Decalogue only, then we are presuming that this was of much greater worth than the other Laws given by God. Whereas, the Decalogue was a brief snapshot given to a people, once under the rigors of slavery & hardship, who had all but forgotten the Living God Who had never forgotten them. The Decalogue was a reminder to them of God's essential requirements for His people as they made their way to idolatrous Canaan, also showing to them that the Law could not ever bring about the desired outcome for holy living, simply because sinful flesh can never fulfil what that Law demanded (being "weak through the flesh"); that the Law should have pointed to them of their need of a coming Savior, to condemn sin in the flesh, providing an escape from a Law that only entrapped the soul, not giving life (see Romans 8:3,4). Onto Page 2.
I hope you don't mind. Concerning the crucifixion and resurrection days, if we compare all the gospels, all four give the clearest truth.
In John 12:1-12, we learn that six days before Passover, Jesus visited the house of Mary, Martha, and Lazarus in Bethany. The following day, He rode into Jerusalem, five days before Passover. This event was significant because it coincided with the 10th of Nisan, the day the lambs were selected and held until the 14th when they would be sacrificed for Passover, the same time Jesus died on the cross, Exodus 12:1-14. These Passover lambs were eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread the day Israel went out of Egypt.
Sunday Matthew 21:1-17, Mark 11:1-11, Luke 19:28-22:7, and John 12:12-50.
Monday, Matthew 21:18-19 Mark 11:12-19 This was the 11th, four days before Passover the 2nd day of the week.
Tuesday, Matthew 21:20 to 26:2 Mark 11:20 to 14:2 This was the 12th, three days before Passover, the third day of the week.
Wednesday, Matthew 26:6-16 Mark 14:3-11 Luke 22:1-6 This was the 13th, and at sunset is Passover day the 14th. The Last Supper, the arrest, sent to Pilot, the crucifixion, and placed in the tomb were all on the 14th, Passover day. Friday would be the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Jesus was in the tomb Thur. Day, Fri, Night, Fri. Day, Sat. Night, Sat. Day, Sun. Night, three days, and three nights. Jesus rose on the first day of the week and fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits, Leviticus 23:10-14 This coincides with what Jesus told Mary, touch me not, He had not ascended to His Father, John 20:17. The Feast of First Fruits as we see is on the first day after the Sabbath after Passover Day.
If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, the women could have gone to the tomb on Friday because Friday is a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath.
God bless,
RLW
Islam, Christianity and Judaism were these three factions. History shows that they all played a major role in Asia Minor, the Levant and Israel. The entire region was under the rule of these three throughout history and can be confirmed through the study of such. The center head of the Eagle I believe is Israel as indicated by the scattering of the people at the destruction of the 2nd temple and the other empires conquering of it. The head on the right consumes the head on the left, so I think this was the Ottoman Empire overtaking the Byzantine Empire. In order of context of history this melds well, but without going back and looking and studying more and going through what I already have researched again I am going to be moderate in my solidification of my stance on this.
Notably also, Esdras is told that the vision of the Eagle is the same as the vision given to the prophet Daniel.
The feathers and wings are in fact rulers of the monarchies, republic's and empires of these three religious factions or of the center head or a combination of the three. In any case, most of what pertains to this vision has already taken place, up until the lion roars. Then we have a fourth beast mentioned, which I believe it the RCC, Mystery Babylon which is the remaining body of the eagle. I do have the identifying characteristics of the historical leaders recorded in a saved file with their counterpart wings and feather, that precisely align with the narrative. I may share those, but the content of the information dealing with that is very large and the allowed room for sharing things on here in the text box is extremely small, so I would need to condense my research first. Also links are not allowed so that presents a challenge to citing my sources and evidence.
Matthew 5 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
All things have not yet been fulfilled and heaven and earth still stand. Below is the fulfillment Jesus was talking about. He wasn't talking about His Crucifixion and Resurrection. The key to understanding that scripture is that heaven and earth must pass away first before the law, Gods Law changes.
Revelation 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Yes, Jesus is High Priest of the order of Melchizedek. He is the only intercessor between man and God. No man on earth holds any position higher than any other man and no man on earth sits in Jesus' stead or can absolve sin. No man is to take on the name Father in a religious fashion. There are only those who study and are on milk and others who are on meat. Then there are others who consume and/or share tainted word and still others who any and all reject religion outright. There are three major religious faction in the world. Islam, Christianity and Judaism. All three are in error and teach deceptive and/or contrary doctrine to Christ.
Judaism seeks to hold onto the Old Covenant which is done away with. Christianity seeks to replace the teaching of Christ with the doctrines of men and Islam seeks to rewrite the biblical narrative into their own false account. All three are called to Convert. If the Commandments of God are taken out of the way, there isn't anything to convert to. Jesus came to establish the law, not do away with it. What law? God's law. Jesus says if you want to enter into life keep the Commandments. They are not burdensome or difficult. This is what He demonstrated to us. Furthermore, before Abraham and Moses, there was also other ordinances that we know God instituted and meant to be kept. Unclean and Clean animals for example. God says He is Holy, we must be Holy too. He calls unclean animals an abomination. Noah was told to take 7 pair of clean animals onto the Ark. 2 pair of unclean. God established this ordinance. Noah was aware of what unclean and clean animals were. Likewise, Gods 10 Commandments also were established by God prior to the Covenant made with Abraham. Don't think that you can do abominable things or defraud God of what He Commands. There is no law against doing good and following God's law is good. Christ didn't remove God's law. He removed sin laws, days pertaining to them and sacrifice for them.
The RCC admits that they changed the day of worship to Sunday. However, God never gave man the authority to do so. This change was not enacted by Christ. Nor was Christ resurrected on Sunday. People make these claims because they are ignorant of the other scriptures that help reveal these things. Many simply look at the scriptures surrounding the crucifixion timeline, never considering there is other scripture elsewhere that provide necessary keys to establishing that timeline correctly. So they err due to their ego driven ignorance, thinking they understand things when in reality they lack the wisdom and due diligence to discover these hidden things to reveal the mystery and importance of including those thing into the crucifixion narrative. There is a narrow path that is missed by a majority of people and most enter the broad path.
Yes, it is always good to pray for our leaders, countrymen, and our nation. May truth and justice prevail. May our leaders be protected from harm from opponents, and may God bring revival to our nation that produces repentance, faith, and love for God and neighbors.
Me being a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California
I Pray thanking God for his steadfast faithfulness in my life.
Lamentations 3:22 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" God's mercy to all the world reassures Affirmation of Faith. God wanting to save you." A refrence example scripture Jeremiah 30:11 KJV. "For the Lord is good Psalms 100:5 KJV."
Principle Holy: To all religions. Always performaning righteousness, holiness in actions "to do it" of God. To have faith, hope, love."
Lamentations 3:23 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" God is always there for you everyday." Surety amd Savior to his people. The Bible to be the Inspired and only infallible written Word of God.
Word Spoken and Written by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY