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  • Chris - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Brother Giannis. If I may humbly interject here, your last sentence, "I don't believe in transubstantiation but the bread and wine become Flesh and Blood of Jesus "by faith", confused me; I probably had the same reaction to it as some of Jesus' disciples to His words, "this is a hard saying; who can hear it"?

    The way I understand it, is that those who believe in transubstantiation (the conversion (materially) of the bread & wine into the Body & Blood of Jesus at consecration) also need to do so IN faith. Why? Because if they are honest with themselves, they still physically see & taste the wafer & the wine and not as their natural senses would if tasting actual flesh & blood. And this then requires them to express faith that through consecration, the elements turn into the actual (presence of Christ). For Faith "is the evidence of things not seen".

    So this fine line between what the RCC believes & what you have shared as your belief, is very intriguing to me - my finite mind can't discern the difference between the two understandings. If you care to brother, could you give some more detail on how I should understand your position better?
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Thanks Brother Ronald.

    This is a interesting study that I haven't spent a whole lot of time on.

    What I do find interesting is-

    Jesus was our passover and he was crucified on the observed day those lambs were slain.

    Jesus is the first fruit of the ressurection.

    the feast of the first fruits predicts the resurrection of Christ and his fulfillment of the feast is on that observed day.

    Not only are these feast predictive, they are fulfilled on the day they were observed.
  • Ruben - 1 month ago
    Please pray for my return to The LORD. Please pray for The LORD to heal my backsliding and body. Please pray for my deliverance from my enemies and from any bondages or strongholds that I am under. Please pray for The LORD to help me through the trials I am going through and for His protection on me. Also, please pray that The LORD provides for all of my spiritual, material, and financial needs. Please pray that The LORD gives me the victory over all things.
  • JAC - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi, Christian,

    I've read your prayer request, and I will stand in the gap on your behalf in Jesus' name. 01.25.2025 @ 1:43PM.

    Thanks for sharing. Your personal request will go onto a 24-hour prayer wall with global prayer warriors from around the globe. Be blessed and stay in prayer.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi S Spencer.

    Thanks, brother. I hope all is well. I'm unsure about the Year of Jubilee; it might be worth looking into since we know it was a reason for the Babylonian exile.

    In my opinion, what makes this topic challenging is that during the time of Christ, the Jews referred to the festival as 8 days by two different names: the Feast of Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. This distinction can be seen in Matthew 26:17 and Luke 22:1, while Mark 14:12 mentions the first day of Unleavened Bread as the time when they killed the Passover lamb.

    Today, we see all eight days on the calendar referred to as Passover. However, this is not how it was originally structured. Passover day is the 14th, when the Passover lambs were sacrificed, and it is also the day Jesus was crucified. This day is not a Sabbath or holy convocation or a feast; rather, it is a preparation day for the seven-day Feast of Unleavened Bread, which runs from the 15th to the 21st. The first and last days of this feast are designated Sabbaths, as noted in Exodus 12:16.

    The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is the Sabbath that John mentioned. Jesus had to be placed in the tomb before sunset on Thursday, which was Passover day. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the 15th (Friday), is referred to by John as a "high day" or "high Sabbath." Consequently, both Friday and Saturday were considered Sabbaths.

    Not sure why the Sabbath is plural, but Scripture is clear there were two Sabbaths, Friday the first day of Unleavened Bread, and Saturday, an annual Sabbath, and a weekly Sabbath.

    Have a great day.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - 1 month ago
    Hi old friend, Welcome back.

    Blessings and peace to you.

    God bless you.
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 month ago
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  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 month ago
    COGIC SUNDAY SCHOOL BOOK 1/26/25

    Daniel 1:5,8-17, Matthew 6:16-18 KJV COGIC WORSHIP 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV I worship a God of results,fasting to please him, sustenance, to see God. A God that strengthens physically , wisdom, discernment, skills.A God associated with food Acts 15:9 KJV that teaches, and are good eating habits. My Interpetation:" God's word to be fulfilled, rest upon me- Jesus Christ being antidote, salvation-hallelujah."Christian Press COGIC Quoted " Fasting Kosher diet are distinct religious practices associated with eating and drinking." Fasting are many ways and to health concerns-Devotion to God. Jesus Christ is God as and to do old testament holy bible customs.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hello Giannis,

    Thank you for the post. My answer to your question is yes. I do believe Jesus was speaking figuratively at the last supper. Did Jesus give His literal blood and flesh to them to eat and drink? I have to say no. As far as the bread and wine becoming the flesh and blood of Jesus "by faith," as you mentioned, one would have to be fully persuaded (faith) that these elements are indeed His literal body and blood. I do come to that conclusion.

    You're referring to 1 Corinthians Chapter 11, specifically Verse 29 which reads, "For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body."

    It doesn't say anything about them having a sin. It says if they do it unworthily. It was the manner in which they were participating. When they took the bread and drank the cup, they were not discerning that these elements represented the Lord's body. They were eating it like it was a meal.

    Jesus set it up so that when we take the bread or drink the cup, He said do this in remembrance of me. When we participate in communion, we are doing it to remember what Christ has done for us, that He was crucified for us, that He gave His body and He gave His blood at the cross, not at the last supper.

    In Luke 22:19, Jesus takes the bread, gives thanks, breaks it and gives it to them and says, "This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me."

    From a Hebrew perspective, that little phrase "This is my body" is a very typical Hebrew metaphorical usage of using your body. He's not saying that the bread became His body. He says this is to be done in remembrance of what I've done for you. If you believe that the elements taken in communion are the literal body and blood of Jesus, then I suppose we are in disagreement on this one my brother.

    Blessings to you in Christ!
  • Christian - 1 month ago
    Prayer for help completing my homework and that I will stay focus on God and not the world. I ask for a breakthrough in finding a good women to date and that I will meet her soon. I ask for protection from witchcraft and ask that God will fight this battle for me and that this will end for me as soon as possible. I ask for protection from monitoring spirits and things coming against me trying to hinder my life. I ask for protection from things hindering my prayers and ask for great intercession that this can get resolved as soon as possible. I ask for a financial increase and debt cancellation. I ask protection over me and all of my family members I pray for daily and often and that God will Bless all of our needs. I ask for healing for all of us and ask for great prayer and healing for my mom and that she will get the breakthrough of healing she have been praying for. I ask for all of these things Lord Jesus Christ Name, amen. Thank you all for praying and I ask God to bless all who pray for us in Lord Jesus Christ Name, amen.
  • MotherMac - 1 month ago
    Psalms 95:6 verse of the day_

    Let us not

    forget to pray daily.

    "O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker."

    Luke 18:1

    "And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;"

    Psalms 19:14

    "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer."

    Psalms 66:16-20

    "16. Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul.

    17I cried unto him with my mouth, and he was extolled with my tongue. 18If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me: 19But verily God hath heard me; he hath attended to the voice of my prayer.

    20Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me."

    In Jesus name we pray. Amen!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Thanks so much Brother Giannis!

    I've never looked deeply into it due to lack of time and resources.

    When it comes to this topic I'm glad we all can agree on what's important.

    Christ died and was raised on the 3rd day!

    Blessings to you Brother and thanks for all that you do.
  • Suzanne - 1 month ago
    Pray for myself, Samantha, Hunter, Victoria, Mike, Colleen, Michael David, Anna Claire, Josh, Jay, Bree, President Trump, America, Kaylee.

    Pray for Health, Safety, Financial Breakthrough, Love, Peace.

    For the Lords Wisdom and HIS Knowledge, in Jesus name, I pray, Yes and Amen
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hello Jesse.

    I will not comment on John 6:60-65. It is obvious there that Jesus speaks figuratively ( although there are other opinions). But does He also speak figuratively when he had the last supper with His disciples and gave them His Blood and Flesh.

    Paul says to Corinthians that if someone eats His flesh and drinks His blood having a sin then they get damned. How is it possible that an emblem causes harm? It doesn't seem logical. But if they are indeed His Blood and Flesh then it makes sense Because holy things get inside a sinful body. It is like in the OT when a priest was to enter the Holy of Holies being uncleaned. He was in danger of falling dead. I don't believe in transubstantiation but the bread and wine become Flesh and Blood of Jesus "by faith".
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi Spencer

    Matthew 28:1, "In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre."

    Let's see the grk." Opse(late or after) de Savvaton(the Sabbaths), te epephoskouse(as it begun to light) eis mian Savvaton(towards the first of Sabbaths)..."

    Lets write it in English. Late (of after) the Sabbaths as it begun to give light towards the first of Sabbaths..."

    Well it seems that we have a contradiction here. Because initially it says that the Sabbath was to be gone or just gone and next it says that as the Sabbath was gone the first of the Sabbaths was or just started to show. Why is this?

    Because the first Sabbath is meant to be the day Sabbath and the second Sabbath is meant as a week. So the KJV correctly translated as "the first day of the week"

    Compare it with Luke 23:54 and it gets very clear. According to Luke it was late at Friday (Preparation) not long before the Sabbath starts (which means not long before getting dark)

    The plural form has to do with how the Jews expressed it in their language. Every language doesn't express meanings in an identical to all languages form.
  • David Allen - 1 month ago
    Please remember my daughters and their young families in your prayers Please pray for Magda W please pray for my mother and please pray for Vita Robinson i had a call last night the was rushed to hospital
  • David Allen - In Reply - 1 month ago
    GiGi Thank you Sister for your prayers on this , the bible teaches us that if we ask anything in his name he will do it , I know that means anything in his will, so we should not pray for a winning lottery ticket , or a new boat ect , but we are to pray for others , to lift them up before GOD , Paul teaches us to Pray without ceasing, in this busy world all of us need to take some time from everything around us and detach from this world to pray , so thank you for your prayers for Magda who is a horrible situation and stuck in such a horrible place , your prayers and the prayers of others is all we can do , Just pray and turn it over to GOD , I am so glad your family is doing well as you , we serve such a Loving and caring GOD and the blessing he gives is uncountable, GOD bless you and your Family Sister GiGi your brother in Christ David
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi Fuji. That's a good question & worthy comparison of the two Scriptures you gave.

    My understanding is this: From those passages, I see how the Jews & Jesus viewed who their Father was; and secondly, what were the works that resulted from that relationship to God their Father.

    1. The Jews sought to kill Jesus because He both broke the Sabbath & called God His Father, making Himself equal with God. The Jews considered both Abraham and God as their Father, one in a biological sense, & the other (God) Whom they worshiped, obeyed & historically with them. However, Jesus showed that His relationship with God, as Father, was different: Jesus did what God required of Him & what God would have done Himself. The Jews believed that any type of work (i.e. what they established as work) was in contravention to God's Sabbath requirements. Jesus basically intimated that God did cease from His creation Work on the seventh day, but to do good for another, to render assistance to the injured, or even heal (as Jesus did) did not contravene the 4th Commandment. So the claim by Jesus that 'as His Father would have worked on the Sabbath to heal, so He had the authority to do likewise', spoke to the Jews that this was not just a claim to God's Fatherhood as they believed, but Jesus' claim that of equality (as Jesus claimed that He does all of God's Works (vv 19,20), He can raise the dead (v 21), in Judgement & in Honor (vv 22,23), etc.)

    2. In the second passage, the question again arises of the genuineness of their relationship with God their Father. This matter came up when they asked Jesus, "Where is thy Father?" ( John 8:19). Their claim to be of Abraham's seed (v 33), but their works to kill Jesus proved that their father was the devil (v 44), since this was neither the works of Abraham nor God. So the Jews claim here that God was their Father was erroneous, as the relationship was not rooted in accepting Jesus' Works & Words from God, but rather doing the works of the Devil.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi Brother Ronald.

    Nicely laid out!

    I also believe there were 2 Sabbaths that week. "The weekly Sabbath and perhaps the yearly"

    Matthew 28:1 may suggest that.

    "In the end of the "SABBATH" as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre..

    From my research "Which may or may not be correct " In the original the Sabbath used here in this verse is in the Plural. (Sabbaths)

    Also, this may have been the year of Jubilee

    Jesus may have made reference to this in

    Luke 4:18-19. "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

    To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

    Just a thought

    God bless you Brother.
  • Fuji - In Reply - 1 month ago
    It is a hard thing to watch some one you love struggle in this life . I have a family member , a middle aged Christian man , who has finally after many years admitted he has a problem with alcohol and cocaine . He's just gone into rehab . We are all so pleased and proud of him for having the strength to admit what we have all known for many years . He doesn't blame God for any of his troubles , he accepts responsibility for his own actions and choices and is determined to make it up to his family and himself . He knows how gracious God has been to him in not letting him totally ruin his own life and the lives of his loved ones , he's still alive and reasonably healthy , for that he thanks God . He's confessed his sins , asked God to forgive him and help him rebuild his life . Yes , for sure God wants us to ask Him for help when we need it , but if anyone helped you out in a big way , you wouldn't forget about them the next day would you ? I'm sure you wouldn't and so we must remember every day , how much good God has done for us and how much worse things could be without His love and mercy in our lives . We need to remember our Father in Heaven every day and thank Him every day and do our best to be obedient loving children every day . Addiction is a terrible struggle , I'm glad for you that your son is still alive , where there is life there is hope . I hope you and your son , with God's help , can build better lives and be closer to your Saviour and each other . Draw strength from Him .
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi Woe,

    I understand there are different understandings on this, many go with the tradition Jesus was crucified and put in the tomb on Friday and rose on the first day/Sunday. Others like yourself hold that Jesus was crucified and placed in the tomb on Wednesday and rose on Saturday before sunset.

    The whole account is in all four gospels the Scriptures I listed in my first post if we study it. It was 6 days before Passover day when Jesus went to Bethany the following day He rode into Jerusalem on the first day of the week 5 days from Passover day. Jesus went back to Bethany that night. The next day Jesus returned to Jerusalem, the second day of the week/Monday.

    Jesus returned to Bethany that night and returned to Jerusalem the next morning the third day of the week/Tuesday. Jesus returned to Bethany that night and returned to Jerusalem the next morning the fourth day of the week/Wednesday.

    Jesus left the temple and went with His disciples to the Mount of Olives where we read the Sermon on the Mount. He sent Peter and John to make ready the upper room where they had the Last Supper this would be the beginning of the fifth day of the week/Thursday.

    This was Passover day when the lambs were to be killed, and preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread a holy convocation/Sabbath, John 19:31 John calls it a high day. That is the reason they had to put Jesus in a tomb, not because of the weekly Sabbath but the first day of the feast, there were two Sabbaths back-to-back.

    Jesus rose on the first day of the week/Sunday on the Feast of Firstfruits, the first day after the weekly Sabbath after Passover, Leviticus 23:10-14.

    People then and today call Passover or the feast of Unleavened Bread an 8-day feast but the first day is the 14th Passover day when Jesus was crucified, a preparation day. The 15th and 21st are the Sabbath days or holy convocations.

    Not sure I can say anymore, in the scriptures are the truth what Jesus did is what matters.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Fuji - 1 month ago
    Here's a question for everyone , I'm stumped by this ! Compare John chapter 5 verse 18 to John chapter 8 verse 41 . What's going on here ? Any help please ?
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi Donna. I just came across this post from you & have already responded, in a small way, to your later post on this very sad situation of your son. I can now understand some of the problems you mentioned here & will keep both him & yourself in prayer.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hello DLHenri-2025. I was so sad to read of your son's plight & with you as his Mom carrying the pain in your own heart. You've shared details of his situation, though without enquiring why some of those things happened to him, we can only consider his predicament & God's Concern in his matters.

    Of course, wherever possible your son should have people to assist him. The DSHS & the hospitals are not helping here, but he too seems to refuse treatment, so it shows how troubled his mind is & the strong sense of hopelessness he carries. Whether you or another close friend/relative has some suitable room for him (keeping his disabilities in mind), or a carer to help with food preparation, bathing, etc., are avenues to be explored. But from the Lord's View, we don't fully understand why God does intervene in some way for some & not others, or even His delays are for reasons we are not acquainted with - He doesn't tell us these things. There have been many people over the centuries (even to biblical days) who have suffered much, or even have died in pain or ignoble deaths, with a seemingly quiet unresponsive God in attendance. Whatever our lot in life, for good or bad, God requires our full love & submission to Him at all costs - we must leave the other (lesser) matters to Him, He Who does all things according to His Will. I know that these words can't help much to alleviate the pain of your son or yourself, but we must continue to trust God for help or for sustaining in times of trouble - He requires this of us. Hardships, we all face in some way - ours is not to question God's action or inaction, but to know that we belong to Him as His blood-bought children, & we are to remain faithful to Him in spite of anything that comes before us. Life is never fair to any of us - but God is faithful Who promises to carry us through; and yes, He gives us help from people & materially as well as part of His blessings. May the Lord help you both to press on looking upward.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 month ago
    That was very encouraging to read brother Marcus. The LORD will surely be with you & bless you for your earnestness to grow in love for Him & striving to live a life pleasing to Him. Continually wait on His Spirit within you to help you, guide you, & strengthen you - for that is why He is given by the Father to those who love Him. And always hide God's Word in your heart, reading & meditating on those words from Heaven, that will truly be 'a lamp unto your feet, a light to your path' in life & in times of testing & trouble. His Word is truly 'alive & powerful, even sharper than any double-edged sword, able to even slice between soul & spirit'. He has already sanctified (set apart) you unto Himself as His child - now that ongoing work of sanctification by His Spirit will always continue in you as you abide in Him, keeping Him uppermost in your thoughts, plans, & affections. I can see that you mean real business with the Lord this time; I pray nothing will cause you to lose your focus & divert you from your most precious heavenly blessings right from God's Throne.
  • Chris - In Reply on James 1 - 1 month ago
    Hello DLHenri-2025. I concur with what Fuji has shared with you & would like to add the following for your encouragement. Yes, the Letter by James, as all other writings given to us, both show us our sin, God's hatred of all things evil (within & without), but also His great Plan of Salvation in & through Himself for lost mankind. If we are truly saved (born again by His Spirit by repentance & hungering after holy & eternal things), then we know that we have been called by God to receive His Salvation & given power to lead this new, special & holy life. Sure, sin will always knock at our door, particularly seeking out weak, vulnerable entrances to cause us to fall, resulting in us even doubting the validity of what God has done in us. And God knows this too well, as Psalm 103:13,14 reminds us. He doesn't expect us to get victory in our strength alone, for we are weak against the enemy of our souls. That is why He gave His Holy Spirit to give us power, direction, even 'a way of escape', if we are truly waiting on Him. And sometimes, this takes time, a long time, to mature & develop the same hatred for anything of sin & spots from the world.

    I would encourage you to take time to read through Paul's letter to the Ephesians, & particularly chapters 1 and 2. In there, he clearly affirms the strong & eternal position we have in Christ Jesus, & nothing, but nothing, can alter that. Why? Because you are chosen & He has changed you. The same Paul, when he was severely buffeted to despair of life ( 2 Corinthians 12:7-10), whether by some sin, doubt or fear, was assured by the Lord that 'God's Grace was sufficient (given in sufficient measure) for him to bear up - God's Strength will be perfected (in Greek, 'completed/accomplished') through Paul's weakness. We can all truly be encouraged by the Promises of God which can be realized in reality. Don't give up dear one, stay true to the Lord in spite of your trials - He never fails - He will not let you down. With prayers.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Thank you Fuji for your further comments here. I fully agree what you wrote about the uniqueness of the Gospels, and I too am particularly fond of John's Gospel as he recalls events & wisdom that are particularly pertinent to understanding the Nature of Jesus & His relationship to the Father. The one thing that always makes me sad, is that my hunger for more details of the events portrayed in the Gospels are not given. And I suppose rightly so, as John 21:25 declares to us. So, I need to learn to be more content with what is given, and of course, the tremendous insights in the epistles, allowing the Holy Spirit to teach & comfort my heart through all that's in the Word & from Himself.

    I used to live & work (ministry) in Karachi, Pakistan for a little while before being 'shown the door'. There are approx. 3000 mosques in Karachi alone, of various sizes & importance. And as you wrote, there would always be a mosque nearby for those folk, particularly to the diligent who need to drop everything five times a day to go to prayer. So, in non-Islamic countries, where mosques are very much fewer in number, it would be reasonable for them to live as close as possible to their place of prayer & the meeting of their other needs. Blessings.
  • Fuji - In Reply on James 1 - 1 month ago
    Hello there ! Don't be discouraged ! James is the kind of book that makes even the most devoted Christian examine themselves very carefully . Every time I read it I feel guilty , as if James was looking right into me as he wrote it ! It seems to me that James has listed all my faults and failings and is rebuking me personally . I'm sure this is intentional , it's easy for us to sometimes be a bit self satisfied and pleased with ourselves , imagining that we are better than we actually are . To me , the book of James is there to bring me back down to the reality of who and what I actually am , a sinner , in need of God's mercy and forgiveness every day . It's like a report card that says ' must do better ' and it's addressed to us all , not just you and not just me . Take it on the chin and vow to do better tomorrow , every day !
  • Marcus - 1 month ago
    Greetings, brothers and sisters in Christ. I have recently received the Lord Jesus into my life after not putting all my faith in Him. Yet now I have made the conscious decision to devote my life to Him and strive to live a holy life. I would really appreciate any prayers for me to be sanctified by the Word of God and His Spirit and to be able to grow as a Christian. Thank you all and hallelujah!
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 month ago
    David,

    I will pray for Magda that God takes care of her amidst difficult and unsafe situations and provide the means for her to return to your circle of family and friends soon.


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