I pray that you will read for yourself, for Hell is not An Abstract the same as the Bible which is Living the True Word of God.
As you read the theory then comes the practical and in the practical, there is two option you are either a righteous man through the repentance at the cross or You're a sinner living in your sins in this world that is passing away with its Lust.
A Tree is Tree whether it is Still standing or fallen and where it falls there it lays.
First of all I believe the Bible is the word of God, it is true it is pure and without abomination
It is written in
Proverbs 8:7
7.For my mouth shall speak truth;
And wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8.All the words of my mouth are in righteousness.
There is nothing froward or perverse in them.
Hell is a real place and not an abstract and it was never created for man but for the devil and his fallen angels.
In the book of Ezekiel chapter 32, The Lord spoke to His prophet Ezekiel and gave him word of Judgment to bring to pharaoh king of Egypt.
And from verse 2 to 18 the judgment is issued to the king and all the land of Egypt
But at the start of Chapter 32:18,
Prophets Ezekiel receives the word of the Lord where he is informed to weep for Egypt and all its people and at the same time God revels Hell to us in this verse where Egypt is to be cast down to the depth of the earth. Egypt and famous nations which are going down to the pit.
As we continue to read, we see that those Egyptian will be placed among those killed by the sword and those famous nation such Assyria is there, The Elams, The endomites Etc.all who are killed by the sword.
In Verse 23
The Lord point this for us That in Hell there is(Recesses of the Pit,)
And the meaning of recesses is this
1.The depths or innermost part of something
2. a small space created by building part of a wall further back from the rest.
All this indicating apportion or section a cage a cell in hell where this people are held.
Another thing that stands out from this verse is that Those who are in hell they caused terror in the Land of the Living, again showing they are not living but are dead.
In Verse 24 the last part we see the wording are in continue present tense indication this action is still happing. And I will quote the last the part on this Verse. Which is in
Ezekeil 32:24
yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit.
The Generation of Jesus Christ sets names of places, persons and events all in the orbit of the only begotten Son who as the Word became flesh draws them into him, past present and future. So the three wise men from the east to worship 'the king of the Jews' and the queen of Sheba coming from the south to hear Solomon relate to him in their respective generations. "The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here."(12:42) Faith is like gravitational force holding each generation in his context. For this reason King Herod, the little horn, the beast stand condemned as enemies of Christ for their injury against the holiness of God.
Faith marks Jesus as the son of God so his kingdom bears no comparison to what apostate Israel may have labored under false expectations of a Messiah-King. "My kingdom is not of this world" and heavenly Zion bears no relation to what preoccupied in the minds of Orthodox Jewry. Mountain of the Lord is founded on the foundation stone, which is Zion (Is.28:16). Micah prophesied,"And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem." ( Micah 4:2)
For the reasons mentioned above the significance of Bethlehem stands in context of the bread from heaven cast upon the waters before the worlds began and not with a literal place. Wherever bread is mentioned in the gospels as in the case of the Last Supper it is broken by Jesus and given about signifying his body broken for mankind.
Herod "and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under,"
Historical Herod was capable of this crime despits of this moniker as the Great, as Constantine the Great was. On a flimsy charge of suspicion he had his son murdered. They belong to enemies to Christ,"Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,/Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;/ Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."(2 Ti.3:3-5) Herod would have had many killed at his death for the sheer pervesity of spirit. Yet he was in his time revered by a section of Jews who called themselves as Herodians. Constantin was of the same stripe. When Satan takes over the worldly worthies and places a crown on them, one may be sure there shall be much blood letting. God does not apportion so many innocents slaughtered by so and so but it is part and parcel of the same sin that entered into the world because of man's disobedience.. All judgment s left to the Son for whom a day is decreed and each shall give account of their deeds. Till then the slaughter of innocents whether 15 or more does not merit any special mention.
Scholars who doubt the veracity of Matthew's account err for the simple reason that the numbers are provided by the Spirit who hold both worlds as one. "And they went out, they and all their hosts with them, much people, even as the sand that is upon the sea shore in multitude, with horses and chariots very many."(Josh.11:4)
By Law of Gradation all the martyrs are grouped on one side within the frame of reference to the Son against those perpetrators of the crime. In the divine Will the emblem of the slain Lamb refers to the blood offering of his firstborn in fulness of time. Weigh against this the death of frstborn in Egypt. (Ex.12:29)
I beg to differ with regards to Elijah, and please check the quote from St Paul Col.1:16-17. I follow KJV and read comparing spiritual with spiritual and as St Peter says,"As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God./f any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God" (1 Pe.4:11) So we are discussing the matter as oracles of God. (2 Co.5:20) What does St Paul mean with 'And if Christ be in you? (Rom.8:10) is it not that he died to sin and the world and lives now in heavenly places. There is only one place for a Bible preacher or a teacher. to be his ambassador or a double. Elijah was one and I by the grace of God strive to be one. So my own talents,'glory', ego, appetites are hid in Christ. Every believer worth his salt has been sanctified by the word, Thy word is truth, Jesus said. As a Bible preacher, I am sure you agree? Jesus sent his disciples Matt.10:40 Luke 10:16. Principle of Association is eternal as the word is eternal. So Elijah, St Paul,you and me are as double or Associates with Jesus Christ. He.13:8
Hope you are ok , I can guess why you have gone :) . I will miss you . Stay strong in the Truth and the love of God . See you one fine day , much love in Christ .
Jesus showed who he was to the multitudes on hoping they will believe but they did not. He fed them, healed them and when he preached to them they ran away.
John 6:5When Jesus then lifted up his eyes, and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?
6 And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.
7 Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little.
8 One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him,
9 There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?
10 And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.
11 And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.
12 When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.
13 Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.
14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
Jesus did not want to attract attention that is the last thing he needed to be an earthly king when he is already our heavenly king. This was all prophesied in Isaiah 8:16-17. If Jesus was made an earthly king, God would have lost his only Son.
Isaiah 8:16] Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
[17] And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
Don't know where you get your teaching Elijiah serves as a double for the Son. Not bible. John the Baptist had the sane spirit as Elijiah which means he had the same words. Elijiah himself did not come down to John the Baptist, John had the same spirit as Elijiah. Elijiah visited Jesus and he will be coming back with Moses according to Revelation 11:6. Elijiah did not physically serve as a double for Jesus. That is like saying your earthly mother is serving as a double for your sister. It don't work that way. Samething in the bible. It is the spirit of words Elijiah that people had and not his person.
Rev 11:6] These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Malachi 4:5] Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
[6] And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Matthew 17:10] And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[11] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[12] But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
[13] Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Mark 9:4] And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
[5] And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
[6] For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
[7] And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
The battle is sure agianst ourselves as our own mind wants to take us out of the bible word. A carnal mind is sin abd death. Your own mind is your own worse enemy, never mind the devil. Your ownself can get you out of the bible and loose your salvation. Don't know where you get your gospel from? It is a very perverted Gospel what you preach and not a gospel that Paul preached.
Romans 8:[5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Galations 5:17] For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
[18] But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Dors not cancel what Jesus said or what Paul says to sin no more. 1st John 1:8 is not at all saying "if we say we have no sin that we commit everyday we deceive ourselves. 1st John 1:8 is referring to 1st John 1:3-4 writing to people how to have fellowship with John to be called a Christian and not a sinner any more as all sin is of the devil period 1st John 3:8. When we come to Christ we where all sinners as all has come short of the glory of God Romans 3:23. John is giving out the plan of salvation how to be saved.
All means all not just one or two things in your life. Jesus never died for one sin or two things he died so all sin can be washed forgiven and forgotten.
Get out of get into verse 9 to confess your sin. If you want to be in verse 8 be my guess, you are going to roast, you are going to burn. Verse 9 tells me he is just and able to forgive all sin and NOT just not one or two things.
1st John 1:9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[10] If we say that we have not sinn((ed)), we make him a liar, and his word is not in us
According to the bible in 1st John 1:6, you are the liar as you claim salvation, you claim fellowship to be a brother of Jesus Christ, and yet you are still walking like the devil hand in hand with him. Obviously, you were told a lie believing you are walking with Jesus when in reality you are walking with the devil in sin.
1st John 1:6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness,((sin)) we lie, and do not the truth:
[7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
We are to be dead unto sin once Romans 6:10-12. Jesus died unto sin once and not over and over to sin and repent as you are calling Jesus a liar and putting him to an open shame. No sinner can make heaven no matter how you slice it as all sin is of the devil.
There is nothing new under the sun. Amen. I shall answer this part,"Jesus feeding the multitude was to show who he was the new King of the Jews the Son of God the messiah as promised, this was foreshadowing Jesus. According to 2nd Kings 4:38-44. He was not there to the will of God which is complete and for this reason he avoided being made a king by a section of the people John 6 :14-15. He categorically rejected the idea and he testified,"My kingdom is not of this world" ( John 18:36)
God sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions" (Ps.107:20) Prophet Isaiah connects this to the word gone out of his mouth that shall never return to him in void. (Is.55:11) So Elijah raising the son or Elisha healing the pottage were all done as a stand in for Jesus who is the Word become flesh.
Multiplying of loaves in the Gospel must be set in context of Ec.11:1-2. "Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days./ Give a portion to seven, and also to eight." The same verse from Isaiah and the Spirit refers to the manner Jesus died ,perfecting the will concerning him (number seven) and preaching unto souls in prison (number eight). Narrative mode of the Spirit and usage of numbers have been covered so the newness to which you allude makes our born again experience as 'new'. It is only in terms of it. The new heaven and new earth is subjective experience of every saint redeemed from the earth. God shall never require correction or recall of his will. (Re.21:1)
Ge.1:1 is annotated by He.11:3 His word made the worlds appear by faith. The earth is the visible image of God so the Preacher says, "The earth abides forever"(Ec.1:4) All things are set in context of the Son. "All things were created by him, and for him:/ And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.(Col.1:16-17) So Elisha serves as a double for the Son, and every other holy men of old.
Thank you! The seed that was sown among thorns never brought fruit to perfection also. Also, St. John 1 said we have received of his fulness. I thought I was the only one that ran across the scriptures you gave. It is easier life to live under the cross and our failures than to follow the gospel be transformed by the Holy Spirit and live under His direction. The keep continuing in failure is really no better than the old law. Hebrews 10:1 "For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect".
Wikipedia article for Michael, and at the Protestant section it states:
Citing Hengstenberg, John A. Lees, in International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, states: "The earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael with the pre-incarnate Christ, finding support for their view, not only in the juxtaposition of the 'child' and the archangel in Rev 12:1-17, but also in the attributes ascribed to him in Daniel." Charles Haddon Spurgeon, a Trinitarian, stated that Jesus is Michael "the only Archangel", and that he is God the Son, and co-equal to the Father. In Spurgeon's view, "archangel" means "head of the angels" rather than "head angel," and is a title similar to "Prince or Leader of the host." ( Daniel 8:11)
I'm sorry, my mistake, but I don't seem to be able to say what I mean clearly. I understand and agree with what you are teaching in these comments wholeheartedly. What I was asking you was, why in your comments when the 2 Corinthians verses are highlighted in red so you can place your cursor on it and it gives you the whole verse the link doesn't give the verse but says there's no text of those verses in the KJB which, of course, they are.. Maybe you can't see it but even in this last reply it does it. I know you don't mean for it to, but it's basically saying those verses are not in the KJB. I won't bother you anymore with this. I do admire what you have said in your comments that these people in the world are evil and we are to keep ourselves separate from them. Thank you for your patience. :)
I attached a link to a source but this site blocked it. No external links allowed.
The Protestant church called Seventh Day Adventists teach on this point. Go to: Seventh Day Adventist Church Biblical Research Institute. Search on the Adventist website: is Michael another name for Jesus. Dated February 13, 2012.
The Seventh Day Adventists chose this name because they keep the seventh day sabbath. The Adventists eagerly look forward the soon return of Christ. Additionally, they teach the three angels message from Revelation. "Worship God, Babylon has fallen, come out of her, my people".
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished,and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh Day GOD ended his work which he had made;and he rested on the seventh Day from all his work which he had made.3 And GOD blessed the seventh Day,and sanctified it:because that in it GOD had rested from all His work which GOD created and made.
In fact,in the beginning,i.e. in JESUS was the Word,the Word is GOD,understand?And by/through JESUS all things created by GOD the Father were made by JESUS;and without JESUS was not any thing made that was made,understand?
On the other hand, when GOD planned to restore or restitution ALL THINGS in six Days- Acts 3:20-21-, and to rest in the seventh Day, in fact ALL THINS which GOD described in His plan- Genesis 1- He called those things which were not as though they were. GOD is Omnipotent, Ominscient and Ominpresent.When GOD said in to rest in the seventh Day, He was speaking and revealing of His rest in this CURRENT MILLENNIUM,that is the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day.
For your better understanding, you must remember that JESUS,the Greater Light, was sent by GOD the Father around 4000 years after Adam,or around 2000 years ago.In fact it still was the fourth Day, understand? GOD,the Father,was still WORKING when He sent JESUS here,understand?Even my Lord JESUS said and revealed that the Father still was working- John 5:17:
JESUS said still in the fourth Day:My Father worketh hitherto,and I work.In fact,the sixth Day has just ended,we have just entered the seventh and last Day,we are living in the beginning of the last millennium,the blessed seventh and last Day of the rest of GOD the Father.From now on JESUS takes command of the Universe
Be careful and get ready.From Adam until JESUS passed around 4000 years
From JESUS until this current time have passed around 2000 years.The sixth GOD's Day just finished.We are living exactly the turn of the sixth to the seventh Day.
You are not understanding what I am saying. Jesus ETERNAL. He is the WORD. Jesus created everything. Jesus is God.Jesus is not a created being. Since Jesus is eternal, what was he doing before born? Think about it. What was he doing?
His name was Michael the archangel. The leader of the angels. God was living among his creation, the angels.
YOU CANNOT HAVE FAITH WITHOUT PRODUCING GOOD WORKS.
James, 1:25- But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed
James, 2:14- What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
James, 2:18- 18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
James, 2:22-Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
James, 2:24 -Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
James, 2:26-For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
EVENTUALLY
If works are not present after knowing the truth in the word of God and accepting it, it is because your faith is false.
(Faith = believe)in the word of God and put it into(practice = works)so the works come automatically otherwise it is faith does not come from God and this faith cannot save you!!
THE FAITH
GRACE
REPENTANCE
PRACTICE GOOD WORKS
BAD WORK = SIN
GOOD WORK = SAVE AND SANCTIFY
It is good works that demonstrate that a person is saved
You cannot(BELIEVE = FAITH)in the word without
(PRACTICE = WORK)and you cannot(PRACTICE = WORK)without having heard, received and believed in the word.
Pay attention to what follows to fully understand all of the words of the Lord who teaches us in righteousness and mercy through his son Jesus Christ.
ATTENTION: Beware of false teachers, pastors, prophets.
HERE IS THE CONTROVERSIAL VERSE
Ephesians, 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
(it is by grace that you are saved);
FOR WHAT
Because it is used without taking into consideration the entire Bible.
LET'S START, FOLLOW ME WITH YOUR BIBLE!
Titus, 1:16 They professthat they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Ephesians, 2:10- For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Philippians, 1:6 - Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Hebrews, 13:21 - 21] Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Titus, 2:7- In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing
Colossians, 1:10- That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
WARNING
Romans, 13:12 -The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the worksof darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Ephesians, 5:11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works ofdarkness, but rather reprove them.
GOD JUDGES WHAT????
1 Peter, 1:17- 17] And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Romans, 2:6 - Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
YOU CANNOT HAVE FAITH WITHOUT PRODUCING GOOD WORKS.
As a preacher you can preach the greatest message, and be loved of all.
You can have degrees, and be skilled in writing, and be the most influential, and still have your name blotted out of the LAMBS book of life.
All those things are good, but unfortunately not good enough for our LORD.
My credentials are in heaven.
Conclusion
I pray that you will read for yourself, for Hell is not An Abstract the same as the Bible which is Living the True Word of God.
As you read the theory then comes the practical and in the practical, there is two option you are either a righteous man through the repentance at the cross or You're a sinner living in your sins in this world that is passing away with its Lust.
A Tree is Tree whether it is Still standing or fallen and where it falls there it lays.
Says the Preacher who was king over Jerusalem.
Hi
First of all I believe the Bible is the word of God, it is true it is pure and without abomination
It is written in
Proverbs 8:7
7.For my mouth shall speak truth;
And wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8.All the words of my mouth are in righteousness.
There is nothing froward or perverse in them.
Hell is a real place and not an abstract and it was never created for man but for the devil and his fallen angels.
In the book of Ezekiel chapter 32, The Lord spoke to His prophet Ezekiel and gave him word of Judgment to bring to pharaoh king of Egypt.
And from verse 2 to 18 the judgment is issued to the king and all the land of Egypt
But at the start of Chapter 32:18,
Prophets Ezekiel receives the word of the Lord where he is informed to weep for Egypt and all its people and at the same time God revels Hell to us in this verse where Egypt is to be cast down to the depth of the earth. Egypt and famous nations which are going down to the pit.
As we continue to read, we see that those Egyptian will be placed among those killed by the sword and those famous nation such Assyria is there, The Elams, The endomites Etc.all who are killed by the sword.
In Verse 23
The Lord point this for us That in Hell there is(Recesses of the Pit,)
And the meaning of recesses is this
1.The depths or innermost part of something
2. a small space created by building part of a wall further back from the rest.
All this indicating apportion or section a cage a cell in hell where this people are held.
Another thing that stands out from this verse is that Those who are in hell they caused terror in the Land of the Living, again showing they are not living but are dead.
In Verse 24 the last part we see the wording are in continue present tense indication this action is still happing. And I will quote the last the part on this Verse. Which is in
Ezekeil 32:24
yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit.
Conclusion
The Generation of Jesus Christ sets names of places, persons and events all in the orbit of the only begotten Son who as the Word became flesh draws them into him, past present and future. So the three wise men from the east to worship 'the king of the Jews' and the queen of Sheba coming from the south to hear Solomon relate to him in their respective generations. "The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here."(12:42) Faith is like gravitational force holding each generation in his context. For this reason King Herod, the little horn, the beast stand condemned as enemies of Christ for their injury against the holiness of God.
Faith marks Jesus as the son of God so his kingdom bears no comparison to what apostate Israel may have labored under false expectations of a Messiah-King. "My kingdom is not of this world" and heavenly Zion bears no relation to what preoccupied in the minds of Orthodox Jewry. Mountain of the Lord is founded on the foundation stone, which is Zion (Is.28:16). Micah prophesied,"And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem." ( Micah 4:2)
For the reasons mentioned above the significance of Bethlehem stands in context of the bread from heaven cast upon the waters before the worlds began and not with a literal place. Wherever bread is mentioned in the gospels as in the case of the Last Supper it is broken by Jesus and given about signifying his body broken for mankind.
Herod "and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under,"
Historical Herod was capable of this crime despits of this moniker as the Great, as Constantine the Great was. On a flimsy charge of suspicion he had his son murdered. They belong to enemies to Christ,"Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,/Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;/ Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."(2 Ti.3:3-5) Herod would have had many killed at his death for the sheer pervesity of spirit. Yet he was in his time revered by a section of Jews who called themselves as Herodians. Constantin was of the same stripe. When Satan takes over the worldly worthies and places a crown on them, one may be sure there shall be much blood letting. God does not apportion so many innocents slaughtered by so and so but it is part and parcel of the same sin that entered into the world because of man's disobedience.. All judgment s left to the Son for whom a day is decreed and each shall give account of their deeds. Till then the slaughter of innocents whether 15 or more does not merit any special mention.
Scholars who doubt the veracity of Matthew's account err for the simple reason that the numbers are provided by the Spirit who hold both worlds as one. "And they went out, they and all their hosts with them, much people, even as the sand that is upon the sea shore in multitude, with horses and chariots very many."(Josh.11:4)
By Law of Gradation all the martyrs are grouped on one side within the frame of reference to the Son against those perpetrators of the crime. In the divine Will the emblem of the slain Lamb refers to the blood offering of his firstborn in fulness of time. Weigh against this the death of frstborn in Egypt. (Ex.12:29)
John 6:5When Jesus then lifted up his eyes, and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?
6 And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.
7 Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little.
8 One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him,
9 There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?
10 And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.
11 And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.
12 When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.
13 Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.
14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
Jesus did not want to attract attention that is the last thing he needed to be an earthly king when he is already our heavenly king. This was all prophesied in Isaiah 8:16-17. If Jesus was made an earthly king, God would have lost his only Son.
Isaiah 8:16] Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
[17] And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
Rev 11:6] These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Malachi 4:5] Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
[6] And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Matthew 17:10] And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[11] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[12] But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
[13] Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Mark 9:4] And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
[5] And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
[6] For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
[7] And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Romans 8:[5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Galations 5:17] For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
[18] But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
All means all not just one or two things in your life. Jesus never died for one sin or two things he died so all sin can be washed forgiven and forgotten.
Get out of get into verse 9 to confess your sin. If you want to be in verse 8 be my guess, you are going to roast, you are going to burn. Verse 9 tells me he is just and able to forgive all sin and NOT just not one or two things.
1st John 1:9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[10] If we say that we have not sinn((ed)), we make him a liar, and his word is not in us
According to the bible in 1st John 1:6, you are the liar as you claim salvation, you claim fellowship to be a brother of Jesus Christ, and yet you are still walking like the devil hand in hand with him. Obviously, you were told a lie believing you are walking with Jesus when in reality you are walking with the devil in sin.
1st John 1:6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness,((sin)) we lie, and do not the truth:
[7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
We are to be dead unto sin once Romans 6:10-12. Jesus died unto sin once and not over and over to sin and repent as you are calling Jesus a liar and putting him to an open shame. No sinner can make heaven no matter how you slice it as all sin is of the devil.
God sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions" (Ps.107:20) Prophet Isaiah connects this to the word gone out of his mouth that shall never return to him in void. (Is.55:11) So Elijah raising the son or Elisha healing the pottage were all done as a stand in for Jesus who is the Word become flesh.
Multiplying of loaves in the Gospel must be set in context of Ec.11:1-2. "Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days./ Give a portion to seven, and also to eight." The same verse from Isaiah and the Spirit refers to the manner Jesus died ,perfecting the will concerning him (number seven) and preaching unto souls in prison (number eight). Narrative mode of the Spirit and usage of numbers have been covered so the newness to which you allude makes our born again experience as 'new'. It is only in terms of it. The new heaven and new earth is subjective experience of every saint redeemed from the earth. God shall never require correction or recall of his will. (Re.21:1)
Ge.1:1 is annotated by He.11:3 His word made the worlds appear by faith. The earth is the visible image of God so the Preacher says, "The earth abides forever"(Ec.1:4) All things are set in context of the Son. "All things were created by him, and for him:/ And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.(Col.1:16-17) So Elisha serves as a double for the Son, and every other holy men of old.
Citing Hengstenberg, John A. Lees, in International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, states: "The earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael with the pre-incarnate Christ, finding support for their view, not only in the juxtaposition of the 'child' and the archangel in Rev 12:1-17, but also in the attributes ascribed to him in Daniel." Charles Haddon Spurgeon, a Trinitarian, stated that Jesus is Michael "the only Archangel", and that he is God the Son, and co-equal to the Father. In Spurgeon's view, "archangel" means "head of the angels" rather than "head angel," and is a title similar to "Prince or Leader of the host." ( Daniel 8:11)
John Gill:"and is no other than Christ the Son of God, an uncreated angel who is 'one' or the first of the chief princes."
The early Protestant leaders believed this.
The Protestant church called Seventh Day Adventists teach on this point. Go to: Seventh Day Adventist Church Biblical Research Institute. Search on the Adventist website: is Michael another name for Jesus. Dated February 13, 2012.
The Seventh Day Adventists chose this name because they keep the seventh day sabbath. The Adventists eagerly look forward the soon return of Christ. Additionally, they teach the three angels message from Revelation. "Worship God, Babylon has fallen, come out of her, my people".
Genesis 2:1-3
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished,and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh Day GOD ended his work which he had made;and he rested on the seventh Day from all his work which he had made.3 And GOD blessed the seventh Day,and sanctified it:because that in it GOD had rested from all His work which GOD created and made.
In fact,in the beginning,i.e. in JESUS was the Word,the Word is GOD,understand?And by/through JESUS all things created by GOD the Father were made by JESUS;and without JESUS was not any thing made that was made,understand?
On the other hand, when GOD planned to restore or restitution ALL THINGS in six Days- Acts 3:20-21-, and to rest in the seventh Day, in fact ALL THINS which GOD described in His plan- Genesis 1- He called those things which were not as though they were. GOD is Omnipotent, Ominscient and Ominpresent.When GOD said in to rest in the seventh Day, He was speaking and revealing of His rest in this CURRENT MILLENNIUM,that is the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day.
For your better understanding, you must remember that JESUS,the Greater Light, was sent by GOD the Father around 4000 years after Adam,or around 2000 years ago.In fact it still was the fourth Day, understand? GOD,the Father,was still WORKING when He sent JESUS here,understand?Even my Lord JESUS said and revealed that the Father still was working- John 5:17:
JESUS said still in the fourth Day:My Father worketh hitherto,and I work.In fact,the sixth Day has just ended,we have just entered the seventh and last Day,we are living in the beginning of the last millennium,the blessed seventh and last Day of the rest of GOD the Father.From now on JESUS takes command of the Universe
Be careful and get ready.From Adam until JESUS passed around 4000 years
From JESUS until this current time have passed around 2000 years.The sixth GOD's Day just finished.We are living exactly the turn of the sixth to the seventh Day.
Get ready
His name was Michael the archangel. The leader of the angels. God was living among his creation, the angels.
How is that far fetched?
James, 1:25- But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed
James, 2:14- What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
James, 2:18- 18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
James, 2:22-Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
James, 2:24 -Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
James, 2:26-For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
EVENTUALLY
If works are not present after knowing the truth in the word of God and accepting it, it is because your faith is false.
(Faith = believe)in the word of God and put it into(practice = works)so the works come automatically otherwise it is faith does not come from God and this faith cannot save you!!
THE FAITH
GRACE
REPENTANCE
PRACTICE GOOD WORKS
BAD WORK = SIN
GOOD WORK = SAVE AND SANCTIFY
It is good works that demonstrate that a person is saved
You cannot(BELIEVE = FAITH)in the word without
(PRACTICE = WORK)and you cannot(PRACTICE = WORK)without having heard, received and believed in the word.
So yes if you follow Christ and do the will of the Father we will (abtain) immortality.
Not (abstain) like in the previous post.
ATTENTION: Beware of false teachers, pastors, prophets.
HERE IS THE CONTROVERSIAL VERSE
Ephesians, 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
(it is by grace that you are saved);
FOR WHAT
Because it is used without taking into consideration the entire Bible.
LET'S START, FOLLOW ME WITH YOUR BIBLE!
Titus, 1:16 They professthat they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Ephesians, 2:10- For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Philippians, 1:6 - Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Hebrews, 13:21 - 21] Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Titus, 2:7- In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing
Colossians, 1:10- That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
WARNING
Romans, 13:12 -The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the worksof darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Ephesians, 5:11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works ofdarkness, but rather reprove them.
GOD JUDGES WHAT????
1 Peter, 1:17- 17] And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Romans, 2:6 - Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
YOU CANNOT HAVE FAITH WITHOUT PRODUCING GOOD WORKS.