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  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    "Unity of the Spirit" (2 of 2)

    Adam is a representational figure. When God put enmity between law of the Spirit against law of sin we see the seed of woman coming under the Law of sin and a world of the flesh, seed of it is under the same curse, " and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."(Ge,3:15) This word of the flesh creates a body of evidence marked by death. Our wretchedness comes from this realization, "Who shall deliver me from this body of death?" (Ro.7:24)

    Jesus became the word become flesh in order to destroy the works of the devil.

    Unity of the Spirit brings one Spirit one body under the divine Will of the Father. Thus glory of God is in not only spiritual shadow but is with reference to the body, the spiritual body it is called. It gives each seed divine impetus so to every seed its own body, holiness of which is determined in its association with the Son. Thus in the creation account, where 'seed in itself' speaks of this holy family, (Ge.1:11) God commanded and the effect we read thus: "And it was so." Heaven signifies the will of God and the earth represented by the Son, (the visible image of the invisible God-Col.1:15) sets forth a chain of sequences that we call the church, or in whom is the seed of truth. The new heaven and the new earth, in short refer to the end times when the reconstituted time is no longer required. "That God may be all in all" explains that the Son had fulfilled His will to perfection.(1 Co.15:24-28)
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    "Unity of the Spirit" (1 of 2)

    "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling" (Ep.4:4) God is a Spirit which sets the Law of the body. It is thus the statement need to be interpreted, "Word was God ( John 1:1) so when God framed worlds by his word this unity sanctified both body and the Spirit as one. Consequently the world made to appear can be said thus, "The Word was with God." From this unity of the Spirit the word of God has a source in the voice of the Lord; so has the sign. The earth abideth forever (Ec.1:4) is as eternal as the word settled forever in the heaven.(Ps.119:89) In this context we shall appreciate the Law of the Spirit that governs every atom, micro cosmos as well as cosmos. The Son in whom all the fulness of God dwells therefore would claim, "I and My Father are one." He is the visible image of the invisible God.

    Let us consider the speaker. Jesus Christ is the brightness of the glory of his Father and upholding all things by the word of his power. When he came to the earth his human likeness spelled out what qualified any man who would be admitted in the Fellowship of God and Man. "I am the Way". So the body prepared for him before the worlds began was a spiritual body glory of which was the one covered Adam. It is God who gives the seed a body as He did with Adam. As a result he was sanctified, so felt he no shame because pure conscience of power and glory of the Fellowship dwelt on him as well. This is a spiritual body.

    "For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren," (He.11:2) Adam was created in 'our image and after our likeness' but we see a complete turn: Having to cover his nakedness with an apron of fig leaves indicates the Law of sin became his master instead.
  • Benjamin - 1 year ago
    Please pray for me that I would be delivered from smoking. Oh Lord Jesus, help my unbelief, that I may have the faith to cast away this vile sin that is ruining my health and keeping me from you. Oh Lord, don't let me be a castaway!
  • Donna - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Matthew West sings a song called Don't Stop Praying. Have you heard it? Please listen to it.

    Praying for you. Donna. Please don't give up and please don't let go of God.

    Also, I wanted to ask you, is there anyone you haven't forgiven?

    The Lord does love you and He's not willing that any perish. No not one. That means you. That means me.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Oseas. I've been following this thread & like Adam, am somewhat confused by your claim that the Names of God we read in the Hebrew we have (& what Israel has), are incorrect, indeed satanic.

    You've just written, "Tell me: What Scripture is more accurate? The original Hebrew Scriptures, or the copies of the Hebrew Scriptures that were transcribed in a lot and different translations?" If this is so, i.e. you are quoting from the "original Hebrew", then could you supply your references where you learnt this so I may research this as well? Because it certainly is a serious matter if both Jews & Christians (then and now) are reading corrupt copies of the original.

    As an example, when speaking with Muslims, I learned that they claim that our Bibles are corrupt, as Jews & Christians (the people of the Book), have changed verses, even removed or added some, making the Bible untrustworthy. So naturally I asked them to show me those changes that were made, & unfortunately but expectedly, they weren't able to, simply because they were parroting what they were told by their imams. In fact, the Qur'an also states that God can remove, change or replace a verse in the Qur'an (2:106; 16:101), but no Muslim can tell us whether what they read presently are true words or false since they might be reading words that have gone through revisions or deletions. Likewise, it is important to know the original, which you refer to, so that we may understand the matter & your belief in it. Thank you.
  • Silverliner - 1 year ago
    Please pray for Strength, Healing, Protection and God's merciful blessings for Stephen, Marian, Carl and Robert. Asking this request in the Most Holy Name of Jesus. Thank you for praying.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oseas, thank you for the response. It seems you wrote a lot of words on the general topic but still I don't see any evidence of your claim being true.

    Your first paragraph, you said the evidence is the Word of God, but the Word of God says God's name is Jehovah and it sounds like you don't like that translation of that verse. The original Hebrew says it too. You said His name isn't there, but it is there. I noticed you used a different English translation- you wrote: "for the strength and praise of the Eternal the Lord was my salvation." This is why I mentioned Strongs that identifies that specific original Hebrew word. Even anti-God, anti-Christian sites like wikipedia agree YHWH is the "the proper name of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible".

    The second paragraph you wrote is quite a scary sounding belief and I would be very careful what words you use about God especially on a public forum that may affect others. Some might perceive this attacking God as a heresy or blasphemy of the holy spirit. That sure would be scary to call God a bad name and spread anti-God information and put your eternity at risk because of some false assumptions.

    Thanks for the interaction, but it seems there's nothing more to discuss on this topic. That's an outrageous claim against God with no evidence to support it. Trying to discredit the KJV on a KJV site is bold and I wonder if there a reason you read the KJV if you don't believe it?

    Pardon me for not remembering your beliefs, but do you consider yourself a Christ follower or affiliate yourself with a certain denomination?
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Adam

    I repeated the original evidence because there is not greater EVIDENCE than the everlasting Word of GOD, is there? The Word is GOD, the invisible, the Omnipotent, and Omniscient and Omnipresent GOD, for me it is He Who is "the Strong's identifier". The Word is self-executing / executable because the Word is GOD, understand? Psalm 33:9 - He -the Word- spake, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast.

    Yes,I stated that the added name Jehovah(a demonic name of Satan)is not in the original Scriptures as being GOD,Father of my Lord JESUS, but as Lucifer,the son of perdition,father of the Jews as said my Lord JESUS- John 8:44-,transfigured as God- Isaiah 14 combined with 2Thes.2:2-3 among other biblical references, and no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Corinthians 11:14. Be careful, for Satan is wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that can be hidden from him, understand? How can the believers fight against the devilish traps and strategies of the Devil if are not knowing so well the depths of Satan?

    You said that If I think there's holes,how am I believe and trust the rest of it and where I draw the line,so I must say that the

    limit of the line is in Genesis 2:16-17 and 3:1 combined with Matthew 16:23.Take a look.By the way,his throat is an open sepulchre

    You said that I'm using a different translation, and asked so how I know its more accurate and not less accurate.Well,well, I used and am using the same source you used to quote Isaiah 12:1-2,right? Tell me:What Scripture is more accurate?The original Hebrew Scriptures,or the copies of the Hebrew Scriptures that were transcribed in a lot and different translations?

    Furthermore, answer your question if I have any more evidence, so let me ask: Is there evidence more truer than the true Word of GOD? The evidence is the Word of GOD. The testimony of GOD is greater.

    As you know,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you Patricia, I appreciate your prayers and concern.
  • Pnovello - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oh my goodness, Gigi, I went back to the internet to learn about your ailments. I had never heard about Behcet.

    Well, when it comes to God nothing is rare, nothing is incurable. We stand together and with great expectation according to God's word we claim healing. In the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

    Sis, take care of yourself, keep me updated and I am praying for you. God bless you. Thank you for praying for me.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Oseas,

    Thanks for the reply but it seems you just repeated your original claim without any evidence for it.

    You said JEHOVAH isn't there, but you're just using a different translation, so how do you know its more accurate and not less accurate?

    Do you have any more evidence?
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ph.3:21

    Here are some corrections. in the first para:first line

    please read as "God is a Spirit while Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God." the last two lines, "The ground was cursed by sin so all the evil of our earthly existence owes to it. Without God, they are under judgment."

    Third para: "Moses would want to avoid taking up the onerous task of leading a nation of stiff-necked people and use the excuse of having impediment in speech."
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ph.3:21 "Our vile body"

    "Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself."

    God is a Spirit while Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible body. This is made distinct by two worlds framed by the word of God by which DNA of a believer is determined by faith.(He.11:3) The first man is earthy and Adam is fashioned from dust of the ground. The Lord from heaven is the Son whose glorious body is manifested by the power of God the Father. Proof of it was that death could not hold him back. Adam represents the earthy more so by his sin of obedience provides a body under curse. The ground was cursed by sin so all the evil of our earthly existence owe to it. Without God stopping it it is under judgment.

    St Paul speaks of those who are under no condemnation because the Law of the Spirit has set them free. On one hand we have MTP, malformed babies, LGBTQ which are all part of the collateral damage of the fall of man.

    Moses would want to take up the onerous task of leading a nation of stiff-necked peopl and use the excuse of having impediment in speech. Oh no He who made mouth of a man was there to prove it had nothing to do with His holiness. Holy is His name. His Son saw to that the glorious body of Moses overcame all physical challenges.

    In short in the world of the Spirit we are surrounded by the glorious spiritual body of the Son,"according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself."Evangelicalst who cause division for pro-Life and anti-Abortion laws say they have faith in Jesus Christ but deny the power thereof. They serve Satan in causing divisions.. "Beware of dogs" St Paul calls them. They traduce the disenfranchised people of color and other ethnicities as slackers and free loaders. It is thus we have children of light and children of wrath. ( 1 John 3:8)
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Certainly will, David. May the Lord place Addylyn back on her feet again soon.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Mike I will pray for you today.

    Dear Heavenly Father, take Mike in Your arms and help him be positive as to this situation following the seizure. Bring healing to his body, especially his brain that caused the seizure to occur. Give Mike confidence, peace, and the faith to go forward after this event. May You surround him with Your powerful healing and restoration in HIs body and soul that He may praise You and lay His life before You with trust and hope in You always. We ask this of You Father, in the name of Jesus, Amen.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Daniel, I am agreeing in prayer for healing to your body to enable you to walk and breathe well again. May it be so in Jesus' name. Amen.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Richard, I have prayed for you and for this revival.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Greetings is Christ JESUS

    Adam

    As you know, the Bible is about two Covenants- The OT and NT.

    What we are commenting is about the OT, not about the NT, for there is not that NAME or nickname in the NT. Remember: You quoted Isaiah 12:1-2.

    Isaiah 16:-1-2 in the OT -Nevin'im(Prophets) Yeshayahu(Isaiah) is written as follow:

    1 And you shall say on that day, I will thank You, O Lord, for You were wroth with me, may Your wrath turn away and may You comfort me.

    2 Here is the God of my salvation, I shall trust and not fear; for the strength and praise of the Eternal the Lord was my salvation.

    In fact that name was added in the translations inadvertently, but the name you have mentioned it is not the only fictitious name or nickname added in the OT (not added in the Bible as a whole-OT&NT), there are several others: I have listed YHWH, Yahweh, Yehovah,Elohim, Adonai, HaShem, Yahusha, YEHshia, Jehovah, YEHvah, these names are not NAMES of GOD, quite the opposite, all these names listed are strictly the names of the father of the Jews- John 8:44 combined with Revelation 12:3-4.

    JESUS in His prayer to the Father, said: John 17:6 - I have manifested thy NAME unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: ... -->What's NAME?)
  • Donna - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Isaiah 40:31

    Go and sit at His feet and ask Him to show you. I pray right now in the name of Jesus that the Lord would ignite some hope within you. That you would sit at His feet and let His love wash over you. Let the blood of Jesus wash away all YOUR sin, and renew your mind!

    Wait, I say, upon the Lord. Sit at His feet and ask to drink from the cup in His hand. His will for you. He will show you. You might have to press in to Him. It might take some doing on your part. When you seek Him with all your heart you will find Him. Go into the Word and get a passage that encourages you and ride it like a surf board into the presence of the Lord God Almighty. Let the Word renew your mind.

    You're not the only one who has felt like they were drowning in the deep waters of despair. So I lift you up in prayer this morning asking the Lord to touch you. In Jesus name!

    With love, your sister in Christ.

    You CAN make it and you CAN overcome.
  • Richard Peterman - 1 year ago
    Help me to stay away from temptations ans to keep Jesus first and foremost in my life in that I may lead others to Christ without having fear to speak as Moses did. There is also an upcoming revival that I will be a part of and please pray that there will be multitudes of participants that come to this event.
  • Sharon Crosby - 1 year ago
    I want take this time to say THANK YOU!!!!! Thank you for your forever Son who came to save a wreck like me. I once was lost, but now I am found and I am truly thankful for the blessings you bestowed upon me. Forgive me for my lack of attention, forgive me for my flaws, Lord forgive me for my daily mistakes. I am just so happy that I have a true friend in you. Lord, continue to guide my daughter in the right directions. I am so proud of the lady she is becoming & she loves you so very much, so Lord Thank You!!!!!
  • Daniel Chrzanowski - 1 year ago
    I am fragile, I cannot even walk, I am short of breath, I don't know what happened so let us pray together, agree in my petition, and let us rebuke the devil or whatever is behind that state in the powerful Name of the Lord! Let us command that immobility, lack of power to leave my body in the Mighty Name of Jesus
  • Mike G - 1 year ago
    Recently had bad seizure.pray for me that I see.the positives and not all the negatives.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    1 Co.15:29 "Baptism for the dead"

    "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"

    Baptism for the dead, there is nothing to be afraid of and dying daily is not a sacrament but comes under the department of works. What is baptism but an act of faith? Faith without works is dead. So what shall we make of the doctrine of man which Evangelical refers to their activism? On one hand they repudiate 'works' the labor of love done in Christ but with both hand embrace Christian nationalism, Pro-life movement and 'prosperity'? "For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name," (He.6:10-15) so works done toward his name must be done with "the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end." This inheritance of promises is unlocked by his name than 'active' faith preached by imposter religion to loosen the tight fist of God. It is thus Satan has deceived them and their prosperity theology is a classic example.

    If you died to the world of sin and the world you are as St Paul says,"I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily." (1 Co.15:30-31). The Nicene creed says, "I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins." For those children of disobedience who fight for faith but in works do the devil's business, stoke cultural wars and help as one famous preacher in the late 60s helped the US President's Southern agenda by publicly stating that all rapists should be castrated merely shows the malaise of the mainstream Christianity feeding upon the Pagan Rome for its growth. Where death worked for saints in the time of St Paul we have now a pastor, here is the quote, "We know that Scripture does not teach that baptism regenerates a person. We are saved by grace alone through faith alone ( Eph. 2:8-9). Nor does Scripture indicate that water baptism is required for a person to be saved." Faith+works
  • David Allen - 1 year ago
    please pray for my daughter Jessica and Addilyn my granddaughter in your prayers , Addie is sick and funning high fever , please remember me in your prayers
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    1Co.15:28 "God is One" (2 of 2)

    "And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."(Matt.3:9)This reference though indirect tells us of the spirit of foreknowledge that laces human speech, a manifestation of the grace of God. John the Baptist knew it well what holiness of God entailed. Moses pleaded because of his slowness in speech but what did God tell him? Aaron was his older sibling yet "And thou shalt be to him instead of God." God made him as he was and in his Son he shall be to Aaron an angel, in place of God. It is thus God gave the revelation of Jesus Christ which was revealed to John by his angel. (Re.1:1;Ex.4:18) This cloud of witnesses are names, and spirits of believers called in his Son. How we live in our earthly tabernacles as St Paul exhorts us has direct bearing."Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord."(2 Co.5:6) Holiness of God is in terms of the body so spitting of Christian pilgrims on the streets by ultra-Orthodox Jews is part of Apartheid that goes on even now.Children of Belial shall never understand then as now. Jeering at baldness of Elisha broughtpunishment on the 42 and now what happens to the lawless Jews is a token of God's wrath. How shall man play with moral imperatives keeping of which is one manner of giving glory to God. St Paul here refers of his spiritual body which is present before the Lord.

    1 Co.15 "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." Here we see the resurrection rendered representational in Christ. When we are dead to sin should we not live in heavenly places than seeking praise of man? Our lives are as many branches to the true Vine.

    Whether in body or in spirit Jesus showed obedience as the key verse tells us "that God may be all in all."
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    1 Co.15:28 "God is one" (1 of 2)

    "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    In De.6:4-6 we have Moses addressing the nation of Israel in particular. Failure of Israel was that their hearts were not right before God. "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:/And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might./And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart"

    When God fed them with the angel's food they lusted after meat. When God presented the bread from heaven they would not receive him. It was thus their heart remained like reprobate silver only fit for slag heap.

    St Paul in the key verse speaks of the unity of the Spirit, ""That God may be all in all." God is a Spirit and Will of God sets His holiness in its several modes so in his Son the same Fullness circulates to draw analogy from water cycle how water is exchanged (cycled) through Earth's land, ocean, and atmosphere but water always exists in all three phases., and this unity of God shall be maintained. When Jesus Christ was manifested it was for this purpose. "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."( 1John 3:8)

    In His Son we we were blessed and by the same token when God prepared a body for his Son we all were foreseen in this spiritual body, a building of God eternal in heavens. So St Paul kept this and walked in faith. (2 Co.5:1). This is called the cloud of witnesses. John the Baptist alluded to it . "And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."(Matt.3:9). This reference though indirect tells us of the spirit of foreknowledge that laces human speech,
  • Patricia - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen. E. Amen. God bless you. Thank You Heavenly Father, Thank You Jesus Christ and Thank You Holy Spirit.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you Ronald, indeed a brother in Christ. Certainly, no offence taken at all. You have shared what you clearly believe from the Word, as I have also done (and btw not from tradition). Actually, I oppose 'tradition' as a basis for belief or action in matters spiritual; so it takes much study & prayer on my part in either accepting or rejecting what is generally accepted by the Church to what is actually given in the Bible. Maybe, that is why I never 'perfectly fit' into any congregation - but again, does anyone if they're honest?

    So, in one sense, it becomes a personal matter until the Spirit sheds His Light to bring us understanding. And as I mentioned earlier, we may, even with our differences on this subject, might still be closer in agreement than we realize. After all, you do believe, I trust, that it was God Who placed His Holy Seed in Mary, so immediately we know that this was no ordinary human birth. The matter then surrounds whether this Seed was first in another Form within God's Person Who was also involved in creation & very likely in other Works of God, or not. As you wrote, we will know all these things "at the end of the road". Blessings to you & yours, in Christ Jesus and thanks again for a good lively discussion.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Chris,

    I thank you for even discussing this and whether you consider me a brother I consider you one. All I have replied to you is the truth from my understanding of Scripture. In your reply, I feel I have offended you and that was not my goal. Like I said from the beginning is to convey my understanding of the Scripture. Your understanding is for your conscience. If you choose one road and I choose another we will find the answer at the end of the road. But if we are not willing to empty our minds as we know nothing, in prayer study, we choose tradition over truth.

    Love you brother.

    God bless,

    RLW


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