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  • BJGibson - In Reply - 9 months ago
    "But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." John 4:14 KJV
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 9 months ago
    I pray you find comfort with the following scriptures.

    "Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee." Isaiah 26:3 KJV

    "But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night." Psalms 1:2 KJV

    "And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink." Genesis 21:19 KJV

    "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28 KJV

    "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." Matthew 6:9 KJV

    "Then they went out to see what was done; and came to Jesus, and found the man, out of whom the devils were departed, sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid." Luke 8:35 KJV
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 9 months ago
    "And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me." Luke 9:23 KJV
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 9 months ago
    "Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word." Psalms 119:170 KJV
  • Mary Ann Burt - 9 months ago
    When you are having these attack from hell, they want you to keep quiet and

    suffer alone, but please start sharing this information and try to help others.

    they threaten you for telling anyone even your family member, but do

    not keep quiet.

    i am writing this message to tell everyone that invisible evil hand spirits are torturing me and other christians. some people are having mental problems, but they are only being attacked by evil spirits from hell. some people may hear voices calling their names, and if they do they come in a soft whisper calling your name. please do not answer these evil spirits just ignore the sound until they go way. they come to torture, rape, and trick you into accepting an invitation to hell without you even knowing you have accepted the invitation. they will also threaten to attack your family members with torture to try to make you accept the invitation to hell yourself.

    please pray for me and all christian! and please read this message and remember it for your own safety. please watch for theses evil inivisible thing that just may touch your body, but you do not see them. they will try to scare you, but do not be afraid. just start praying!

    please remember they come with a soft whisper calling your name! they are coming after christians! if i can save one person from this hellish torture that i am in with these inivisible evil things from hell i will be a very happy christian.
  • Mary Ann Burt - 9 months ago
    When you are having these attack from hell, they want you to keep quiet and

    suffer alone, but please start sharing this information and try to help others.

    they threaten you for telling anyone even your family member, but do

    not keep quiet.

    i am writing this message to tell everyone that invisible evil hand spirits are torturing me and other christians. some people are having mental problems, but they are only being attacked by evil spirits from hell. some people may hear voices calling their names, and if they do they come in a soft whisper calling your name. please do not answer these evil spirits just ignore the sound until they go way. they come to torture, rape, and trick you into accepting an invitation to hell without you even knowing you have accepted the invitation. they will also threaten to attack your family members with torture to try to make you accept the invitation to hell yourself.

    please pray for me and all christian! and please read this message and remember it for your own safety. please watch theses evil inivisble that just may touch your body, but you do not see them. they will try to scare you, but do not be afraid. just start praying!

    please remember they come with a soft whisper calling your name! they are coming after christians! if i can save one person from this hellish torture that i am in with these inivisble evil things from hell i will be a very happy christian.
  • Bennymkje - 9 months ago
    "The Man" (2 of 2)

    "That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him."

    Fulness of times is Person specific. " For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell."(Col.1:19)

    From 'all things in Christ' we shall first consider what are in heaven:

    The Lamb motif where death is appointed for him and the deep sleep of Adam are connected

    In terms of symbolism the slain Lamb is with reference to the Word become flesh. Jesus Christ the Man component in the Father Son relationship. "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."(Re.13:8) compared with this, "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain" Here the body as a memorial signifies the Law of the Spirit given a body. (Re.5:6). In the former we are looking at the world unseen, or the divine Will made to appear. (He.11:3)

    In the fulness of time God sent him. "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman."(Gal.4:4). How does John see him? He is the Lamb of God. As word become flesh he fulfills the word according to the scripture. "He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter," (Is.53:4-8) Fulness of time is as he gives shape to the world unseen.

    Adam is set as a double for Jesus Christ. We shall consider how the Holy Spirit brings the fulness of Christ in the creation of Eve. "And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept." This sleep is to be interpreted from the fulness of Christ, so Eve is a symbol for the body of Christ, the church. "In the fulness of times how do we characterise the body? It is called the Throne of God and of the Lamb.(Re.22:1) There is no temple but we have instead the holy city, "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it."."(Re.21:22-23) Eve has become the Lamb's wife.
  • Bennymkje - 9 months ago
    Ge.2:5 "The Man" (1 of 2)

    "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."

    In this verse we have the everlasting covenant tied to the man who was the recipient of the blessings in his Son (the Man component). Significant is that this Man was already present since the Law of the Spirit has set him as the word become flesh, and who would be sent to the world in the fulness of time. So St Paul says,"God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ," and "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself," (Ep.1:3, 5) Do we ask the Creator why? Faith is what we require. So our works are merely to fulfill "that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." In order to be found without blame we require grace and nothing else He demands by way of works.. From the above Jesus Christ was our Intercessor and Mediator, "According as (God) he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world."

    The everlasting covenant is Fellowship of God with Man. God sent rain upon the earth only after a man was found to till the ground.

    So where was this Garden of Eden? In heavenly places as St Paul mentioned in the above mentioned quote? The same relationship of our being in heavenly places as we read in Col.3:1-4

    "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God./ Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth./ For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God./When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 9 months ago
    amen brother, a very hard burden, a yoke not easily removed. prayers for you, gaurd your eyes at all times.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Very good prayer there Larry. amen to that
  • David Allen - 9 months ago
    please remember me and my family in your prayers today
  • Bennymkje - 9 months ago
    Ez.41:23-26 Two Doors

    "And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, cherubims and palm trees, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks upon the face of the porch without." (v.25)

    There are no loose ends in the God document. Where a motif like palm tree is introduced it shall be set in context of Jesus Christ in whom is the fulness of God. (Col.1:19). Because of its upright trunk palm tree represents righteousness. Seventy palm trees are thus to be interpreted.

    The Body that God has prepared holds memorial in heaven (24 elders and four beasts) which upholds the everlasting covenant. Gospel Of God in heaven is everlasting gospel: and heaven earth and lower parts are equally under its sovereignty so four and twenty elders (8x3=24) forms one part: gospel unto salvation. The living creatures sent forth to uphold the glory of God are represented as memorial before the throne. They represent the judgment aspect of the gospel.

    Two doors when opened make four leaves,- 4 is the command number for the Word. Cherub motif signifies the cloud of witnesses which in turn represent us. "Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven."(Matt.8:10)

    At the brightness of Christ's coming these shall accompany him "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them (those who are asleep) in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:."(1 Thess.4:17)

    "And there were narrow windows and palm trees on the one side and on the other side, on the sides of the porch, and upon the side chambers of the house, and thick planks."
  • Bennymkje - 9 months ago
    Ez.41:23-26 (2 of 2)

    "And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee." The ark of the testimony signifies the word of God which is Person specific. Thus instead of the tree of life we have the ark, a body in remembrance of the body God has prepared for the Son. This serves as a memorial in heaven.

    In the wilderness cherumbim is positioned with their wings extended, "And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims."(25:20-21) In the Ezekiel's vision the wings are replaced by two doors each with two leaves which can be folded. . We shall compare these folding doors with wings of the Four beasts before the throne of heaven, Instead of folding we read that these had eyes, "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy,LordGod Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come."(Re.4:8). Compare them with the living creatures in Ezekiel's vision in Ez.10. They are sent to Jerusalem after the city is judged and the creatures are there to uphold the glory of God. Or rather they are the avenging cherubim. These had eyes round about and had four faces. The two door had instead four leaves. "And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle."(Ez.10:14) The cherubim signify in all these the same truth. Salvation has doors where cherubim alternating with palm trees foreshadow the single measurement with which which the holy city of God shall be measured. (Re.21:17) At Elim the wells of water and palm trees pointed to the gospel of Christ and and trees of righteousness.
  • Bennymkje - 9 months ago
    Ez.41:23-26 (1 of 2)

    "And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors./And the doors had two leaves apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves for the one door, and two leaves for the other door./ And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, cherubims and palm trees."

    The motif of palm tree is taken from Exodus 15:27 "Elim, where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten palm trees:"

    Ezekiel's vision points to the holy city of God.

    Doors generally indicate salvation. "Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD:/ This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter." There are no doors in the holy city. " And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there."(21:25). So Ezekiel's vision anticipates the perfect.

    As sojourners and pilgrims our earthly existence can be compared to the bitter waters of Marah. So what does Elim signify for us? "And they removed from Marah, and came unto Elim: and in Elim were twelve fountains of water, and threescore and ten palm trees; and they pitched there."(Nu.33:9) Door to the redemption of our bodies. Doors carry meaning than what may appear at the surface. Such is the significance of two folding doors mentioned in the vision of the temple in the Book of Ezekiel.

    In the tabernacle of the wilderness, cherubim on either end of the mercy seat had a purpose. " "And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat."(Ex.25:18)" Like the cherubim God placed on the east of the garden they are like sentries to guard the holiness of God represented by the mercy seal and the ark of the testimony. "And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee." The ark of the testimony signifies the word of God which is Person specific.
  • Chris - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Thank you again brother for your comments. I would have much trouble equating 1 Peter 1:23-25 ('being born again by the Word of God') with John 3:5 ('one being born of water'): that as you believe, water here represents the Word of God. Maybe, Ephesians 5:26 ('sanctify & cleanse the Church with the washing of water by the Word') might bear some resemblance of the Word to water.

    Yet, in both cases, I really can't place such a meaning here, since Jesus was answering the question posed to Him by Nicodemus ('how can a man have a second physical birth?'). And so Jesus answered him, not in some mysterious, confusing way, but clearly, that one's birth onto the Earth can only come in a physical way, but to enter God's Kingdom, man needs to be re-born by God's Spirit & not by human involvement. And of course, Nicodemus did not query this (though he may not have fully understood Jesus' Words), rather went on in verse 9 to ask, "How can these things be?" So, I see that water in John 3:5 equates to the physical/the earthly, & the Spirit to the immaterial/heavenly. And Jesus again confirms this in verse 6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh (earthly = water/physical birth); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (heavenly = Spirit/spiritual birth)." Anyway, I will keep your understanding in mind, if I can find some support in my further readings.

    To the rest of your comment, I do find complete agreement, in respect to infant baptism and God's Foreknowledge of those who will respond to the Gospel. GBU.
  • Lary Ambati - 9 months ago
    Dear Heavenly Father,

    I come before you this beautiful morning thanking you for the gift of life. I thank you for always showing me compassion even though I am deeply flawed. May you bless all the work of my hands. May I continue to bloom in adversity and follow your Holy word. May you bless my communities and those who have caused me harm so they may know the wonders of your love.

    Thank you for loving me. Thank you for always choosing me.

    In Jesus name I pray believing and trusting.

    Amen.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Sean Paul

    The King James Version uses Lord because it fortunately is the true translation approved by the Holy Spirit. You did not make mention what verse you have compared, anyway Lord may be JESUS or others biblical personage, as you may know JESUS is the LORD of the lords; who are the others besides JESUS?

    The KJV is correct and true, Biblehub is not, and its translation in this specific case is one among others that will be burned with everlasting fire, because Yahweh is the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist name used by the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism as it was GOD's name, but it is not, it is the name of the father of the Jews- John 8:44KJV-that is their God- 2Thessalonians 2:3-4KJV.

    JESUS said: John 8:41-43KJV

    41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to JESUS, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even GOD.

    42 Jesus said unto them, If GOD were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from GOD(take a look in Hebrews 1:1-4); neither came I of myself, but He sent me.

    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my Word.

    Hebrews 4:12-13KJV

    12 For the Word of GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do. or we must render an account
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    Another day in America: Murder and suicide

    The dual tragedy and evil of murders and suicide take up almost the same amount of people with the 40000 that are killed with guns each year. Briefly looking at the data; it seems mass shootings are way up. Actually; self inflicted suicide has a much higher mortality rate than those who are shot in gun violence who normally are just injured the majority of the time (exception probably the mass shooting events). In PA where I live the sobering fact is that over 900 annually die of suicide by guns and it is supposed to be 90 percent successful as compared with other methods.

    Statistically per capita per 100K the top SIX countries are all island nations. But for sheer numbers Mexico is first; followed by the USA.

    Personally my mother probably at least 30 years ago knew two who died by suicide; and I myself was friends with someone who did the same; and vaguely knew about another (both individuals claimed to know the Lord). In the case of my mother one person was gay and things didn't go down well; in the other case the lady felt her ex husband was stalking her.

    I am sure all of us have been affected one way or another either personally or with close family or friends with these realities.

    Covid was the last thing to kill many; apparently about 40 or 45 died in the nursing home where my current Bible study has been tabled because of the latest; but less lethal outbreak. The danger of the shot is clear too; as one of my friend's cousins died right after taking it (I took the original 2 doses and that was all; guess being as old as the hills it didn't affect me like the young folks.

    This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come ( 2 Tim. 3:1 with laundry list in rest of chapter). No one wants to hear it will get worse but Christians because they know the Lord is coming sooner by the day. Let us pray if He will cause a reduction in this; and if not to bring someone to the Lord even now
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    Another day in America

    My friend who is a Pastor just shared with me tonight about a 90 year old church member who realized the error of her ways after he challenged her hypocrisy. After months of not talking with him; He was in tears when she called him and gave the message and now is able to help her with Bible activities in her residence now that the doors of communication are open. He gave me permission to share this; and there is more to the story as to losses in her life and I may share more later. I should point out my friend has spiritual discernment; this isn't his normal mode

    That was earlier today. Tomorrow we see in D.C. what is supposed to be a gay pride collaboration where international attendes will visit of up to 3 million people according to official estimates; in addition to what's going on the entire month. Next year is supposed to be the 50th Anniversary edition of this madness. With this depravity it seems impossible for any of them to have 90 years of life until they come to repentance; and truth be told many will not even have half of that time with the suicide rates and self destruction this lifestyle brings. Talk about hypocrisy; if pride was as they claim the chief sin of Sodom based on Ezekiel 16:49-50 and pride comes before a fall ( Prov. 16:18); and that was what caused Lucifer's fall in Isaiah 14; and Ezekiel 28 touting this as the emblem of this perversion just adds to their judgment. Is it any wonder when children and toddlers are brought to events and raised this way that this sin just keeps mushrooming? The real wonder is that we see everyday those who come out of it; thanks to the Lord changing men's hearts.

    And that brings me back to my original story. After this lady had almost all her relatives die and she herself became ill; she repented. The same used to be the case with gay people when they lost friends to AIDS. These days there may not be much time before God's destruction in the Tribulation.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hi Momsage.

    I'm aware of your stance on mans ability to become perfect,

    You made that clear a few months ago.

    And, I'm sure you heard mine.

    There is no virtue in revisiting that debate with you and I. Perhaps others may be willing.

    However, I would like to ask you a question or two.

    What is sin?

    If you can become sinless, Would you being sinless wipe away your past transgressions?

    How are we JUSTIFIED by becoming perfect or by Christ atonement?

    God bless you Momsage.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hi SeanPaul. Because Yahweh is the actual Hebrew word which the Old Testament is translated from and the word means Lord.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hi S Spencer: If the sin nature is incurable then what is sanctification, how does the Holy Spirit enter into an unclean temple? You may accept the teaching that we are not wholly sanctified until we are raptured ,when God removes it before we enter in, but I don't see how that can be. I believe we can and must lose our sin nature, after salvation, by simply asking God to remove the desire; the want to sin from us and if we are sincere, ready to truly give up our sinful life, then He sanctifies us wholly and removes the nature of Adam from us. The teaching from the KJB, about the infilling of the Holy Ghost, as happened on the day of Pentecost is for all of God's children; His Church. This marvelous blessing and gift from God was meant for the Church until the rapture. Revelations 19:7-8 7) "Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and HIS WIFE HAS MADE HERSELF READY. 8) And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white." Jesus didn't let His gift fade away as if it was only meant for the early church. It started with the 120 members and the blessing has continued and will continue until the rapture. This gift was given to the Church so she will be a "beautiful bride, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing," when Jesus comes for her.The Adamic nature it one big mess of spots and wrinkles. We will still have faults, character weaknesses, according to the dictionary, which we learn to overcome with the help of the Holy Ghost. Faults are NOT sins.

    I do totally agree about what you say regarding children being born innocent. No matter what their life is before they have come to knowing right from wrong they are not condemned. God Bless :)
  • Ace - 9 months ago
    Prey for me brothers my life is consumed by lust
  • SeanPaul - 9 months ago
    When I use Biblehub to translate they use Yahweh why does KJV use Lord?
  • Andrew Pick - 9 months ago
    Prayer for Andrew Pick

    Healing for bipolar disorder depression and fatigue always also spiritual happiness and strength inner peace and healing for health God to restore everything the enemy stolen from me mentally physically in Jesus's

    Name

    Amen
  • Andrew and Nicole Pick - 9 months ago
    Prayer for Andrew and Nicole Protection in our marriage also Happiness and love and peace also pray for us to have blessed summer full of unexpected blessings maricles supply all our needs physical spiritual and all our prayers to be answered and God to restore everything the enemy stolen from us spiritual, physical and God gives us wisdom and good health and good mental health and God to take care of us financially so we aren't lacking or struggles in Jesus name amen thank you for praying for us
  • SeanPaul - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Gilson,

    Jesus says have faith and believe, At night or anytime a bad memory comes pray this simply prayer, Jesus help me pause for a second and say Thank You Jesus. Remember faith and believe that he has already helped you.

    Also to get the memories out of your head. Read a verse of the bible in the morning when you wake and before you sleep and read the Bible daily. Then your mind will be filled with Gods word!

    If you are like me and have a hard time reading there are Bible apps that will read it for you and your mind will be focused on the voice and not your memory.

    Thank you Jesus
  • Giannis - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Chris, 2/2

    Some say, look at Abraham, look at Paul, God revealed Himself to them directly like He has not done in other people. Yes but He knew they would accept and obey Him. The same way He revealed Himself to Saul the king (as well to other kings), to Judas, to Balaam, to Demas, to name a few. To the Pharisees and Sadducees that had seen so many miracles but still paid the guards of Jesus' tomb to say that the disciples had stolen His body or they wanted to kill Lazarus together with Jesus because they understood that people would believe to Jesus. So it is not a matter of God's will but a matter of people's response to Him. Others say that if God doesn't grand repentance to people, nobody will repent. This is true but we have to understand how that repentance is granted by God. Not in a "magical" (again) way. Miracles are something that God uses for this purpose. His word is another way. His appearance to one is another way God uses, and so on. Often healings is also another way God uses to soften people's heart.. But again the response is not always acceptance by people.

    And something else. There are verses in the scriptures where the word "chosen" in grk has the meaning of "precious, valuable". Like in Matthew 22:14, "For many are called, but few are chosen". Here the proper translation of the grk "eklektos" is precious. Which means that many have been called but few have accepted that invitation and for God they are precious, valuable. It is our response to Him that makes us precious to Him, not a somehow discriminative approach of God whom He selects and whom not.

    Blessings
  • Giannis - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hello Chris, 1/2

    Sory but I quoted that passage incorrectly. You are right, it says "Except a man be born again...".

    As far as my belief in what "water" stands for in John 3:5, is concerned, it means the Word of God. As I said before it is the seed that is sowed by the Sower in all people's heart. When the soil/heart is a good and soft soil then that seed gets inside it and it sprouts, in other words when a heart is soft then the word of God gets inside it and causes repentance and regeneration, 1 Peter 1:23-25 describes that clearly. So without the word of God nothing can be done. I don't agree at all with a "magical" (sorry for the expression, I know many believe it like this) regeneration. There is no possible way that God regenerates infants that most possibly will become atheists afterwards. The idea of predestination the way some believe it leaves me in complete disagreement. If God chooses whom to select and save, then He would have been a racist and discriminative God. But in 1 Timothy 2:2-4 says clearly, " For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;Who will have ALL MEN to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth". So if God wants ALL people to be saved why does He choose some for salvation? Because the whole interpetation of that is wrong, in my opinion. God knows who is going to accept Jesus and had His plans for the salvation of all mankind completed before the foundation of the world. So His choice has to do with our decisions made with our free will. It is obvious in the parable of the Sower and the good seed where Gods tries to plant His seed in every heart. But the result is due to our heart.

    See pt 2
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    Mark 14:41 states And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. This is several verses after today's scripture in Mark 14:38.

    The indwelling Holy Spirit clearly gave the Apostles newfound courage after not only Peter but all the rest of them scattered; fulfilling the prophecy "smite the Shephard and the sheep will be scattered." ( Matt. 26:31). The 11 remaining Disciples apparently fell asleep multiple times and didn't know what to say; and they didn't heed the warning to pray against temptation.

    This frustration on Jesus' part on seeing them short of giving Him strength of consolation in His greatest agony in the Garden ends up being against all of them; something we don't see earlier in His ministry. I could go on with a lengthy description of just how blind they were to Christ's earlier prophecies predicting His death; or their inabililty to realize what Judas was up to; or why He was headed toward Jerusalem. Frankly it is too depressing for me to get into at length. I pray that when other believers are going through life and death issues; at least that we won't shrink back but be a support even risking our lives if necessary.

    This should also serve a warning as to how fast crowds will turn from God; especially in the Tribulation. I have gone at length on how today's presentation of the Gospel tends to be lacking repentance as a requisite for salvation; how sin in general is softened; and how counting the cost of being a true disciple is often ignored. Nonetheless even when a true Gospel is offered; there can be some acceptance in times of prosperity; but we should be alert to things changing fast and prepared for many to fall away in these last days as Timothy warned ( 1 Timothy 4:1). Deceiving spirits will come more often I would say to those already"religious" nominal Christians who aren't discerning.


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