Jesus gave a definition, "because my word hath no place in you." ( John 8:37) He is a fool who rather cancel God from his calculations so he has a free hand to do evil. "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works,"(Ps.14:1). In Ps.119 we read, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee."(v.11) The word of God is not simply word but the similitude of the Lord as God referred to Moses. It is abiding in Christ. Moses wanted to see the face of God which was not appropriate for him. Moses shall only see the back parts which from several other examples refers to the Advent of his Son. "And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by." (Ex.33:22) The slain Lamb is worthy to open the book "a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."(Re.5:1).This glory of God that was to follow already was in his heart. "to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." Moses was well aware of it." But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."(De.30:11-14). Coming back to the key verse the ungodly simply set the glory of God to nought.
Instead he preferred to sit with the babblers idling their time whose words would not even peel an onion; ungodly has counsel how to make his nation great but if you come anywhere near his orbit you may end up doing jail time, that is for sure; do not even stand among those who have plans to rid the 'vermins' rapists and undesirables from the border and little do they know they themselves will be knocking at the borders of the lands of others sooner or later." The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men."(Ps.11:4) The ungodly are the chaff, which the wind driveth away.'
Here's one of many examples of how Nakedness is used in scripture.
Ezekiel 23:29, "And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.
Luke 9:60 - Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
I want to point something out here because Luke 9:59 in our English text would lead us to believe that this man's father had died, which is not the case
And then we get to this verse, and Jesus wouldn't even let him bury his father. That is kind of tough! Well, we know from the scriptures, in Deuteronomy 21:23, it tells us that once a person died, they had to be buried before sunset, on the day of the death.
So, if this man's father had already died, he would not be out listening to the teachings of Jesus. He would be attending the funeral and burying his father.
But rather, as Matthew's account tells us, that the phrase itself in the Greek text represents the Hebraism, that basically says "let me go back until my father dies so I get my inheritance."
You see, in those days you stayed around the house. And when the father died, then you took over the business, and you took over the estate.
And what he what he saying is "I'm really not free to leave. I have got some financial interests that I cannot leave. You see if I leave now, I leave all my inheritance, and so I can't do that!"
Do you understand what's happening here? Jesus is fixed towards Jerusalem. He is telling the disciples that you get fixed on Jesus and you follow Him.
But look at all the things that challenge that relationship. You have got conveniences. You've got, "Gee, I have waited my whole life to get the inheritance from my father, and now Jesus is asking me to follow Him, and if I do, I am going to lose all that inheritance." Yup! Let the spiritual dead bury their own dead. You go preach the Kingdom!
Luke 9:31 - Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Literally, the Greek word for decease is the word exodus. It's the word death. It's the same word used in Hebrews 11:20 to talk about the children of Israel and their exodus out of Egypt. That's exactly what this word is supposed to make a reference to. The Lord's exodus is the fulfillment of the exodus in the Old Testament.
Luke 9:51 - And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
He steadfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem! The word steadfastly in the Greek means a fixed established position. When it was time to go and die, Jesus was fixed to go to Jerusalem. You couldn't get Him off track.
Luke 9:3 - And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.
The word staves mean walking sticks. And scrip means money bag.
Luke 9:26 - For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
The word ashamed in Greek means to withdraw. That is what people do when they are ashamed or embarrassed, they kind of withdraw. So, Jesus says you withdraw from me and my word, when you stand before me in judgment, I will withdraw from you.
Luke 9:29 - And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
Now here's where the Greek text really brings out the meaning of this verse:
And as he was praying, the fashion, (literally outward appearance), of his countenance, or face, was altered. Here in the Greek text, it just uses the word HETEROS. His face became different.
But even with the Greek word HETEROS, meaning different in kind than He was before. It wasn't a physical change. It was a physical change into a Spiritual change.
Matthew uses the word METAMORPHOSIS, meaning completely transformed. So, he went from the physical to the Spiritual. And then it says about His clothing, it says that His raiment, or His clothing was white and glistering.
The Greek word for glistering represents emitting a light, not reflecting but emitting. The light was actually coming out from Him. And it is the word that is used to describe lightening.
So, you can imagine what the scene was like. It was not reflected light. It was not a spotlight coming out of heaven to shine on Jesus. He was literally transformed into His body of glory in front of them.
The difference between Adam before he ate of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and Christ.
The usage of the word "NAKEDNESS" in the Bible.
I have shared this before, perhaps a few years ago. This is a view I hold and is open for correction so please offer your "Scriptural" take on this perhaps you can bring more light on the subject.
Naked in the Bible often means uncovered "Spiritually"
When we read Genesis 2:25 "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
And then Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. (This happens after they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.)
It's reasonable to think this is beyond being destitute of clothing.
Naked in the Bible often means uncovered Spiritually.
The word for naked is "erom", which means more than just unclothed, can also carry the idea of being guilty, exposed, and vulnerable to God's judgment.
So the question is, When did Adam become uncovered according to scripture?
When he sinned or when he was he born?
Note; I'm not asking when did he disobey God's commandment not to eat of the fruit, that was in Genesis 3. He was declared naked in chapter 2.
What did the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil do the Adam and Eve in declaring their eyes where opened?
Notice God's immediate response to their dilemma in Verses 3:10-11
"And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, BECAUSE I WAS NAKED; and I hid myself.
And he said, WHO TOLD THEE THAT THOU WAST NAKED? HAST THOU EATEN OF THE TREE, WHEREOF I COMMANDED THEE THAT THOU SHOULDEST NOT EAT?
God asked, "Who told thee that thou was naked?
That answer is, that got Knowledge of that from eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
So is this "unclothed state" something they were in previously?
Please read over your Scriptural answers carefully.
Luke 8:19 - Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press.
This word "press" is not talking about newspaper reporters. But of course, you already know that! This is the word OCHLON which means the throng of the crowd.
Luke 8:23 - But as they sailed he fell asleep: and there came down a storm of wind on the lake; and they were filled with water, and were in jeopardy.
There came down a storm of wind on the lake; It's called a LAILOPS, which is hurricane force, hurricane force that sits almost 600 ft. below sea level, the Sea of Galilee.
Luke 8:27 - And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
The word devils is literally the word demons. He wore no clothes. That is one of the characteristics in the bible of demonized people. They don't like to keep their clothes on.
That doesn't mean that all people that don't want to keep their clothes on are demonized! He had devils or demons for a long time. He didn't wear any clothes, and he didn't live in any house. He lived in the tombs, the cemetery, where dead people are buried.
Luke 8:29 - (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)
This word "fetters" in the Greek means shackles.
Luke 8:30 - And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
Legion means 6,000.
Luke 8:31 - And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.
And they, (the demons), besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep. That is the abyss where the demons are going to wind up as we know from the book of Revelation, the ABUSSO, the bottomless pit.
Luke 8:8 - And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
The term "let him hear" is not an invitation or a challenge. In the Greek text, it is a command. The one having ears to hear, and He says, hear! And what Jesus is doing is activating people's hearing, the ones who have a heart or an ear to hear, He is actually giving them the ability to do so.
Luke 8:14 - And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
The word "cares" is the word MERIMNA. It is usually translated anxiety or worry. MERIMNA, just as the general definition, means "to occupy the attention of the mind." Not to occupy the mind, but to occupy the attention of the mind. That is Satan's only weapon against a believer. That is what the Bible presents. Once you become a Christian, once you know Christ, Satan can't take your soul away from Jesus Christ. All he can do is keep our minds occupied and distracted from the things of the Lord in order to keeps us from growing spiritually.
Luke 8:16 - No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light.
In the King James text, every time you see the word candle, it is the literally the word lamp in all of its uses. And a candle stick is a lamp stand. It wasn't a candle.
No one when he has lighted a lamp, covers it with a vessel, or puts it under his bed; (that is pretty comical), but he sets it on a lamp stand, in order that those who enter in may see the light. I mean that is what it is for, so that you can see.
Luke 8:2 - And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
Secondly in Verse 2, it tells us that there were certain women who were also part of this ministry caravan campaigning from city to city. It also gives us their condition, that they were healed of evil spirits and infirmities. Infirmities is usually translated sicknesses in the scripture.
But whenever it says devils or demons and sickness, Luke the physician is linking the two together, some kind of physical condition that has been brought about by demonic activity. Not all physical illness is from demons, or from sin. Well, actually the fallen nature, yes. But not all sickness is because of sin.
But Luke is linking these two together for us to tell us that these are people who were demonically affected, if not possessed, and they were healed of evil spirits and infirmities. The word infirmity literally means to be without strength. It is not the word for disease. It is the word for sickness, and it just means to be without strength.
Luke 8:4 - And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
A parable (PARA BOLE) is a commonly known event, known to man or in the community like farming, and other stories that are common to the everyday person, and taking a spiritual truth and putting it alongside of a common everyday story.
Not everything in the stories pertain to spiritual truth, but the heart of the stories does, and Jesus often used farming terms to express His truths.
I will start with a rather general statement that as we get closer to the time of the end and the Antichrist; there will be more and more apparent prophecies that come true as to specific things that happen but the conclusion that he is Christ or some great person of course will be a lie.
In my assessment therefore the scriptures used whether in a false or true prophecy bring an element of truth of something that ultimately will be fulfilled; hence as I say the poison always is most effective with something good mixed in. With all the similar manifestations in the last days such as fire coming out of the sky mimicking the work of the 2 Prophets; as well as the apparent "resurrection" of Antichrist we see how Satan both imitates or is a substitute for Christ but his character is totally against it.
In the spiritual dimension demons can be involved with nations; institutions or individuals and thus cause an apparent "self fulfilling" prophecy as God permits to delude men. The Lord in His Word has prophecies which often have more than one phase of fulfillment before the end and general things which characterize the end of the age in the birth pang timeframe. Such things are predicted by true and false prophets themselves. I would also say that until the end of the church age the Lord is holding back very definite things which may begin to show up as a foreshadowing of the Tribulation (such as plagues; warfare; etc.) People have debated for instance the prophecy of Agabus and how much church preparation avoided a crisis. We could legitimately have insight in a conditional sort of thing which is of course also scriptural as a general TENET. I often warn people that certain sins cause us to reap what we so which in a way is prophetic; perhaps more like a word of knowledge.
With all the proven falsehoods of almost all the so called popular prophets I lean closer to a cessationist mindset; but will not have the audacity to say God can't do something.
So, when we consider what someone might say, "The Father is not the Son", I wonder how are they interpreting 'the One God now revealed in His Son'? We believe that the Son is the coming of God in the flesh to fulfil the Father's Will in Salvation, but to another, the Son is still distinct from the Father (by position & material) and by virtue of Him being on Earth while the Father is in Heaven - therefore in this belief, the Father is not the Son. So even this can be correct, though the core of it is still that God was fully in Jesus His Son. Or, Jesus only became Divine after His God-generated Birth - which certainly makes distinction between the God in Heaven & the Jesus on Earth. And yet another belief: that if the Son is truly God come in the flesh, then God must be absent in Heaven, that Jesus is now the only God by His coming. But then the question to refute this belief, to Whom then is Jesus talking, praying & crying to during His Earthly sojourn? To Himself? So, I mention all this, so that through discussion on these pages, anyone who believes things that differ to our belief might through discussion, & using the Word, come to a better understanding of the Truth.
And I am sorry, unlike you, I tend to be a 'wordy person', simply so that I can better express my beliefs or answers given to another, without misunderstanding, or hopefully to minimize it. Thank you again for your input Everett & every blessing.
Thanks again Everett for those many Scriptures showing the fullness of God in Christ Jesus - the Man Jesus is indeed the Immanuel of God. Yet, when I read of beliefs of others on this important doctrine that God cannot take on human flesh or even your quote of "The Father is not the Son, etc", I always try to understand exactly what is being said/believed by that person & how that belief is supported. Sometimes the way we express ourselves may not be quite the same in another's hearing.
Invariably, those who do actually use the Scriptures to support their belief, will either read those verses in a different way to support their position, or some might even twist them to force them to reveal something not intended in the verses. So, when you say that you're "in the right place", you should be aware that not all who come here interpret the Scriptures in the same way. I always keep this in the back of my mind when reading the Bible: correct biblical hermeneutics is a primary (major) issue in reading & understanding Scripture, because what mechanisms we use to correctly understand the Word will form the basis of what we believe. And at the very core of this is that Scripture must be read as it is given, without adding our own interpretations/biases/hidden meanings to it (and knowing the original languages of course greatly helps). Only when the Word is giving us types or shadows, or even further clarification as we read in Jesus' parables, can we diverge from our simple reading of it & embrace the fuller meaning.
"Are there prophets that exist in today's world aside from having the gift of prophecy? Or are they one in the same?
I believe if one "must" have the gift of prophecy to be a Prophet.
No the question is, are Prophets around today.
I would say No.
Here's what Paul in Ephesians 2:20 says about the Church of God.
"And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Before the Canon of scripture was completed the prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord in the OT and to the early believers.
Today we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible.
Does God reveal truth to someone in a way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Yes! He does this to all of us.
However, That doesn't make us a foretelling Prophet.
Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible then it us written before hand and it's not a foretelling supernatural message.
Hebrews 1:1-2 reads, " God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
As you know, Luke is fairly long. I am about three quarters of the way through but thought I would go ahead and post as I go. Thanks again for the encouragement.
Dear Walter, I will be praying for your recovery from the stroke and to be delivered from depression. These are two difficult conditions to experience and go through. I pray that the Lord will bring you through these things in the best of ways.
My now wife cried herself to sleep praying for a husband. She asked, "who would have me?" (She had two teenage boys.) That night she had a dream that she was walking down a road alone. As she walked, a man came up and began walking with her. After a short while, the man placed his hand in hers and they continued walking to the end of the road. Once there, the man turned to her and gave her a hug. She told me that she could still feel the hug as she woke up. I'm not sure how long it was before she met me, but when she did, she said I was the man in the dream. God confirmed that she was the right one for me as I was driving to a job about 30 min from home. (We had already met but since she lived in another town, we didn't get to spend much time together.) This particular morning, I was praying about whether she was the one God wanted for me. I was really seeking God on this matter and by this time the tears were flowing. (I had a paper towel that I had folded twice, now it was square.) I had already wiped my tears away twice, but this time as I prayed, "God I don't know who she's supposed to be with, but I've got to know if she's the one for me" I wiped my eyes.This time I was surprised as it felt like something crawled across my face. When I looked at the paper towel there was a strand of her hair poking out. I unfolded the towel and it was as if I had laid it across the towel before folding it up. It was then God spoke in my spirit, "she's the one." I told her the story and that's when I learned she had dreamt about me. We just celebrated ten years together. There's more but for lack of time and space, I'll end it here. Lisa, I don't know you, but I know our God, and He is Just and faithful. If you will keep God at the center of your life, and then at the center of your marriage, He will make a way. He certainly did for my wife and I. Trust God and His timing. I'll be praying, God Bless
I was having a discussion with members of my Sunday school class about prophets. Are there prophets that exist in today's world aside from having the gift of prophecy? Or are they one in the same?
Thank you kindly for two lovely posts, with which I wholeheartedly agree, and that is why I am here. Everywhere I go, all I get is the three-leaf clover with the words, "The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father." For crying out loud! God is one. I point out, trying to keep it simple, that we are in the image of God, that we are body, soul, and spirit while being one person, and that God cannot be divided.
I show all the scriptures; these are just a few, but they get brushed aside. What sincere Christian would do such a thing?
1. All the fullness of the Godhead dwells in Christ, for in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. [ Col 2:9]
2. All of God is in Christ. [To wit, that God was in Christ] 2Co 5:19]
3. All the fullness of the Father dwells in Christ. [For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell, Col 1:19]
4. God was manifested in the flesh. [And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, 1Ti 3:16]
5. God dwelt among us. [And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, Joh 1:14]
6. Jesus is the Mighty God and the Everlasting Father. Isa 9.
7. All things were created by Jesus. Col 1:16.
8. Jesus is God with us (Immanuel). Matt 1.
Anyway, it looks like I am in the right place, and I am glad-just one thing. I am not a wordy person, and I like to keep it simple. With Christian love, thank you. Everett.
6And at midnight(at the turn from he sixth to the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day)there was a cry made,Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to MEET Him.
Acts 1:8-11
8But ye shall receive power,after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you:and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem,and in all Judaea,and in Samaria,and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9And when JESUS had spoken these things,while they beheld,He was taken up;and a CLOUD received JESUS out of their sight.
10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as JESUS went up, behold,TWO MEN stood by them in white apparel; (Comment: Would the two men had been Gabriel and Michael- Daniel 12:6-13 combined with Genesis 19:1-3and 12-15?By the way,what is the difference between sea & river in the Scriptures?Being the sea=waters=peoples and nations,and multitudes of all tongues,and the waters of the river:Who are them?Are not them exclusively the elected people of GOD redeemed by JESUS- John 7:38-, or even His Church,His body?)
11The two men said:Ye men of Galilee,why stand ye gazing up into heaven?this same JESUS,which is taken up from you into heaven, shall SO COME IN LIKE MANNER(in the same place,and the same CLOUD- Matthew 24:30)as ye have seen JESUS go into heaven.
1Thes.4:16-18
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,with the voice of the archangel,and with the trump of GOD:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud,to meet the Lord in the air(in the ineffable, indescribable,unspeakable environment of the 3rd heaven)and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Matt. 25:10 ->And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came;and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage:and the door was shut.
The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD, GOD Himself,self-executing.Great mystery-> Matthew 11:27
Need prayer for my niece who is on a trip with her mom (my sister) and my sister is acting horribly. My niece has suffered so much all throughout her life because of my sister's behavior and the incredibly hurtful things she says to her. We have been praying for so many years and its taking a toll on my niece and her fledgling faith (she is not allowed to go to church). Pray for a miracle. Asking for us all for extra strong protection and breakthrough concerning salvation (those not saved), healing, deliverance and to live lives pleasing to the Lord and to walk in His authority and power. Asking for us and all in need. Thank you.
Hi Everett. My understanding is that the word 'Trinity' (also referred as Triunity) and the word 'Triune' mean the same thing. Some people find the word 'Trinity' offensive, simply because in their minds it denotes a belief in 'three gods'. But with explanation, that erroneous belief can be corrected.
I note that you have given those words different meanings. So in my understanding, I don't believe that 'Trinity' speaks of three individuals or three gods, but the One God Who expresses Himself in the ways we read of in the Bible: and that is by His Spirit & by His Word. And both are fully within the Godhead revealing God to us in His Fullness.
The Spirit & the Word do not 'operate' independently, using their own Will or purposes to accomplish their tasks. All that the Word has accomplished, whether at the first by revelation to the prophets ( Hebrews 1:1), and now made flesh ( John 1:1,14) to be called the Son of God ( Hebrews 1:2), is what I understand from the Scriptures.
Likewise, the Spirit of God was sent out to infill people to understand & proclaim God's Word and now to baptize repentant sinners who have turned to God through faith in Jesus Christ. That the Word & the Spirit have been sent out by the Father, doesn't mean that God is now deficient in any way, remaining helpless, but all that the Father speaks & accomplishes is done by Himself alone by His Word & Spirit. I hope that I have given you a clear understanding of my position on this doctrine.
Pray for me and my husband, we are both sick with sinus infection. Pray for all my children and grandchildren, they are lost without Christ. Pray for our government to be saved and all sinners all over the world.
The Spirit makes an unbroken narrative thread from the beginning till eternity. In Ex.15:27 the Spirit gives us 12 wells at Elim."where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten palm trees: and they encamped there by the waters." The number 12 foreshadows Christ exhorting,"In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink." ( John 7:37). What Moses qualifies as 'my speech' refers to him. This is 'my doctrine, the Gospel of Christ. Up and Down and Across the Gospel has the tag 12 and it does not change.
At Elim there were 70 palm trees (7x10) and they signify trees of righteousness. We have 70 elders upon whom God sent the Spirit and they were the Associates of Moses. This Seventy foreshadows the seventy other disciples whom Jesus sent to preach. ( Luke 10:1)
"And theLordsaid unto Moses, Gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Israel, /And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone."(Nu.11:7-8)
Compare the vision of Ezekiel with Re.22:1-2 "And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine."(Ez.47:12)
The living waters beginning from heaven holds both heaven and the earth as one and this pure river of water of life gives us what everlasting to everlasting would mean. (Col.1:17).What does this signify? Up and Down and Across can only be understood in him.
Jesus gave a definition, "because my word hath no place in you." ( John 8:37) He is a fool who rather cancel God from his calculations so he has a free hand to do evil. "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works,"(Ps.14:1). In Ps.119 we read, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee."(v.11) The word of God is not simply word but the similitude of the Lord as God referred to Moses. It is abiding in Christ. Moses wanted to see the face of God which was not appropriate for him. Moses shall only see the back parts which from several other examples refers to the Advent of his Son. "And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by." (Ex.33:22) The slain Lamb is worthy to open the book "a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."(Re.5:1).This glory of God that was to follow already was in his heart. "to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." Moses was well aware of it." But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."(De.30:11-14). Coming back to the key verse the ungodly simply set the glory of God to nought.
Instead he preferred to sit with the babblers idling their time whose words would not even peel an onion; ungodly has counsel how to make his nation great but if you come anywhere near his orbit you may end up doing jail time, that is for sure; do not even stand among those who have plans to rid the 'vermins' rapists and undesirables from the border and little do they know they themselves will be knocking at the borders of the lands of others sooner or later." The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men."(Ps.11:4) The ungodly are the chaff, which the wind driveth away.'
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A difference between Adam and Christ.
Part 2a.
Here's one of many examples of how Nakedness is used in scripture.
Ezekiel 23:29, "And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.
To be continued.
God bless.
Luke 9:60 - Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
I want to point something out here because Luke 9:59 in our English text would lead us to believe that this man's father had died, which is not the case
And then we get to this verse, and Jesus wouldn't even let him bury his father. That is kind of tough! Well, we know from the scriptures, in Deuteronomy 21:23, it tells us that once a person died, they had to be buried before sunset, on the day of the death.
So, if this man's father had already died, he would not be out listening to the teachings of Jesus. He would be attending the funeral and burying his father.
But rather, as Matthew's account tells us, that the phrase itself in the Greek text represents the Hebraism, that basically says "let me go back until my father dies so I get my inheritance."
You see, in those days you stayed around the house. And when the father died, then you took over the business, and you took over the estate.
And what he what he saying is "I'm really not free to leave. I have got some financial interests that I cannot leave. You see if I leave now, I leave all my inheritance, and so I can't do that!"
Do you understand what's happening here? Jesus is fixed towards Jerusalem. He is telling the disciples that you get fixed on Jesus and you follow Him.
But look at all the things that challenge that relationship. You have got conveniences. You've got, "Gee, I have waited my whole life to get the inheritance from my father, and now Jesus is asking me to follow Him, and if I do, I am going to lose all that inheritance." Yup! Let the spiritual dead bury their own dead. You go preach the Kingdom!
Luke 9:31 - Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Literally, the Greek word for decease is the word exodus. It's the word death. It's the same word used in Hebrews 11:20 to talk about the children of Israel and their exodus out of Egypt. That's exactly what this word is supposed to make a reference to. The Lord's exodus is the fulfillment of the exodus in the Old Testament.
Luke 9:51 - And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
He steadfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem! The word steadfastly in the Greek means a fixed established position. When it was time to go and die, Jesus was fixed to go to Jerusalem. You couldn't get Him off track.
Luke 9:3 - And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.
The word staves mean walking sticks. And scrip means money bag.
Luke 9:26 - For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
The word ashamed in Greek means to withdraw. That is what people do when they are ashamed or embarrassed, they kind of withdraw. So, Jesus says you withdraw from me and my word, when you stand before me in judgment, I will withdraw from you.
Luke 9:29 - And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
Now here's where the Greek text really brings out the meaning of this verse:
And as he was praying, the fashion, (literally outward appearance), of his countenance, or face, was altered. Here in the Greek text, it just uses the word HETEROS. His face became different.
But even with the Greek word HETEROS, meaning different in kind than He was before. It wasn't a physical change. It was a physical change into a Spiritual change.
Matthew uses the word METAMORPHOSIS, meaning completely transformed. So, he went from the physical to the Spiritual. And then it says about His clothing, it says that His raiment, or His clothing was white and glistering.
The Greek word for glistering represents emitting a light, not reflecting but emitting. The light was actually coming out from Him. And it is the word that is used to describe lightening.
So, you can imagine what the scene was like. It was not reflected light. It was not a spotlight coming out of heaven to shine on Jesus. He was literally transformed into His body of glory in front of them.
The usage of the word "NAKEDNESS" in the Bible.
I have shared this before, perhaps a few years ago. This is a view I hold and is open for correction so please offer your "Scriptural" take on this perhaps you can bring more light on the subject.
Naked in the Bible often means uncovered "Spiritually"
When we read Genesis 2:25 "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
And then Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. (This happens after they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.)
It's reasonable to think this is beyond being destitute of clothing.
Naked in the Bible often means uncovered Spiritually.
The word for naked is "erom", which means more than just unclothed, can also carry the idea of being guilty, exposed, and vulnerable to God's judgment.
So the question is, When did Adam become uncovered according to scripture?
When he sinned or when he was he born?
Note; I'm not asking when did he disobey God's commandment not to eat of the fruit, that was in Genesis 3. He was declared naked in chapter 2.
What did the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil do the Adam and Eve in declaring their eyes where opened?
Notice God's immediate response to their dilemma in Verses 3:10-11
"And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, BECAUSE I WAS NAKED; and I hid myself.
And he said, WHO TOLD THEE THAT THOU WAST NAKED? HAST THOU EATEN OF THE TREE, WHEREOF I COMMANDED THEE THAT THOU SHOULDEST NOT EAT?
God asked, "Who told thee that thou was naked?
That answer is, that got Knowledge of that from eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
So is this "unclothed state" something they were in previously?
Please read over your Scriptural answers carefully.
Thanks and God bless.
Luke 8:19 - Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press.
This word "press" is not talking about newspaper reporters. But of course, you already know that! This is the word OCHLON which means the throng of the crowd.
Luke 8:23 - But as they sailed he fell asleep: and there came down a storm of wind on the lake; and they were filled with water, and were in jeopardy.
There came down a storm of wind on the lake; It's called a LAILOPS, which is hurricane force, hurricane force that sits almost 600 ft. below sea level, the Sea of Galilee.
Luke 8:27 - And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
The word devils is literally the word demons. He wore no clothes. That is one of the characteristics in the bible of demonized people. They don't like to keep their clothes on.
That doesn't mean that all people that don't want to keep their clothes on are demonized! He had devils or demons for a long time. He didn't wear any clothes, and he didn't live in any house. He lived in the tombs, the cemetery, where dead people are buried.
Luke 8:29 - (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)
This word "fetters" in the Greek means shackles.
Luke 8:30 - And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
Legion means 6,000.
Luke 8:31 - And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.
And they, (the demons), besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep. That is the abyss where the demons are going to wind up as we know from the book of Revelation, the ABUSSO, the bottomless pit.
Luke 8:8 - And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
The term "let him hear" is not an invitation or a challenge. In the Greek text, it is a command. The one having ears to hear, and He says, hear! And what Jesus is doing is activating people's hearing, the ones who have a heart or an ear to hear, He is actually giving them the ability to do so.
Luke 8:14 - And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
The word "cares" is the word MERIMNA. It is usually translated anxiety or worry. MERIMNA, just as the general definition, means "to occupy the attention of the mind." Not to occupy the mind, but to occupy the attention of the mind. That is Satan's only weapon against a believer. That is what the Bible presents. Once you become a Christian, once you know Christ, Satan can't take your soul away from Jesus Christ. All he can do is keep our minds occupied and distracted from the things of the Lord in order to keeps us from growing spiritually.
Luke 8:16 - No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light.
In the King James text, every time you see the word candle, it is the literally the word lamp in all of its uses. And a candle stick is a lamp stand. It wasn't a candle.
No one when he has lighted a lamp, covers it with a vessel, or puts it under his bed; (that is pretty comical), but he sets it on a lamp stand, in order that those who enter in may see the light. I mean that is what it is for, so that you can see.
Luke 8:2 - And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
Secondly in Verse 2, it tells us that there were certain women who were also part of this ministry caravan campaigning from city to city. It also gives us their condition, that they were healed of evil spirits and infirmities. Infirmities is usually translated sicknesses in the scripture.
But whenever it says devils or demons and sickness, Luke the physician is linking the two together, some kind of physical condition that has been brought about by demonic activity. Not all physical illness is from demons, or from sin. Well, actually the fallen nature, yes. But not all sickness is because of sin.
But Luke is linking these two together for us to tell us that these are people who were demonically affected, if not possessed, and they were healed of evil spirits and infirmities. The word infirmity literally means to be without strength. It is not the word for disease. It is the word for sickness, and it just means to be without strength.
Luke 8:4 - And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
A parable (PARA BOLE) is a commonly known event, known to man or in the community like farming, and other stories that are common to the everyday person, and taking a spiritual truth and putting it alongside of a common everyday story.
Not everything in the stories pertain to spiritual truth, but the heart of the stories does, and Jesus often used farming terms to express His truths.
In my assessment therefore the scriptures used whether in a false or true prophecy bring an element of truth of something that ultimately will be fulfilled; hence as I say the poison always is most effective with something good mixed in. With all the similar manifestations in the last days such as fire coming out of the sky mimicking the work of the 2 Prophets; as well as the apparent "resurrection" of Antichrist we see how Satan both imitates or is a substitute for Christ but his character is totally against it.
In the spiritual dimension demons can be involved with nations; institutions or individuals and thus cause an apparent "self fulfilling" prophecy as God permits to delude men. The Lord in His Word has prophecies which often have more than one phase of fulfillment before the end and general things which characterize the end of the age in the birth pang timeframe. Such things are predicted by true and false prophets themselves. I would also say that until the end of the church age the Lord is holding back very definite things which may begin to show up as a foreshadowing of the Tribulation (such as plagues; warfare; etc.) People have debated for instance the prophecy of Agabus and how much church preparation avoided a crisis. We could legitimately have insight in a conditional sort of thing which is of course also scriptural as a general TENET. I often warn people that certain sins cause us to reap what we so which in a way is prophetic; perhaps more like a word of knowledge.
With all the proven falsehoods of almost all the so called popular prophets I lean closer to a cessationist mindset; but will not have the audacity to say God can't do something.
So, when we consider what someone might say, "The Father is not the Son", I wonder how are they interpreting 'the One God now revealed in His Son'? We believe that the Son is the coming of God in the flesh to fulfil the Father's Will in Salvation, but to another, the Son is still distinct from the Father (by position & material) and by virtue of Him being on Earth while the Father is in Heaven - therefore in this belief, the Father is not the Son. So even this can be correct, though the core of it is still that God was fully in Jesus His Son. Or, Jesus only became Divine after His God-generated Birth - which certainly makes distinction between the God in Heaven & the Jesus on Earth. And yet another belief: that if the Son is truly God come in the flesh, then God must be absent in Heaven, that Jesus is now the only God by His coming. But then the question to refute this belief, to Whom then is Jesus talking, praying & crying to during His Earthly sojourn? To Himself? So, I mention all this, so that through discussion on these pages, anyone who believes things that differ to our belief might through discussion, & using the Word, come to a better understanding of the Truth.
And I am sorry, unlike you, I tend to be a 'wordy person', simply so that I can better express my beliefs or answers given to another, without misunderstanding, or hopefully to minimize it. Thank you again for your input Everett & every blessing.
Thanks again Everett for those many Scriptures showing the fullness of God in Christ Jesus - the Man Jesus is indeed the Immanuel of God. Yet, when I read of beliefs of others on this important doctrine that God cannot take on human flesh or even your quote of "The Father is not the Son, etc", I always try to understand exactly what is being said/believed by that person & how that belief is supported. Sometimes the way we express ourselves may not be quite the same in another's hearing.
Invariably, those who do actually use the Scriptures to support their belief, will either read those verses in a different way to support their position, or some might even twist them to force them to reveal something not intended in the verses. So, when you say that you're "in the right place", you should be aware that not all who come here interpret the Scriptures in the same way. I always keep this in the back of my mind when reading the Bible: correct biblical hermeneutics is a primary (major) issue in reading & understanding Scripture, because what mechanisms we use to correctly understand the Word will form the basis of what we believe. And at the very core of this is that Scripture must be read as it is given, without adding our own interpretations/biases/hidden meanings to it (and knowing the original languages of course greatly helps). Only when the Word is giving us types or shadows, or even further clarification as we read in Jesus' parables, can we diverge from our simple reading of it & embrace the fuller meaning.
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Welcome to the site!
You asked;
"Are there prophets that exist in today's world aside from having the gift of prophecy? Or are they one in the same?
I believe if one "must" have the gift of prophecy to be a Prophet.
No the question is, are Prophets around today.
I would say No.
Here's what Paul in Ephesians 2:20 says about the Church of God.
"And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Before the Canon of scripture was completed the prophet proclaimed a message from the Lord in the OT and to the early believers.
Today we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible.
Does God reveal truth to someone in a way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Yes! He does this to all of us.
However, That doesn't make us a foretelling Prophet.
Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible then it us written before hand and it's not a foretelling supernatural message.
Hebrews 1:1-2 reads, " God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
I hope this helps.
God bless.
As you know, Luke is fairly long. I am about three quarters of the way through but thought I would go ahead and post as I go. Thanks again for the encouragement.
Blessings to you also!
I show all the scriptures; these are just a few, but they get brushed aside. What sincere Christian would do such a thing?
1. All the fullness of the Godhead dwells in Christ, for in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. [ Col 2:9]
2. All of God is in Christ. [To wit, that God was in Christ] 2Co 5:19]
3. All the fullness of the Father dwells in Christ. [For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell, Col 1:19]
4. God was manifested in the flesh. [And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, 1Ti 3:16]
5. God dwelt among us. [And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, Joh 1:14]
6. Jesus is the Mighty God and the Everlasting Father. Isa 9.
7. All things were created by Jesus. Col 1:16.
8. Jesus is God with us (Immanuel). Matt 1.
Anyway, it looks like I am in the right place, and I am glad-just one thing. I am not a wordy person, and I like to keep it simple. With Christian love, thank you. Everett.
6And at midnight(at the turn from he sixth to the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day)there was a cry made,Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to MEET Him.
Acts 1:8-11
8But ye shall receive power,after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you:and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem,and in all Judaea,and in Samaria,and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9And when JESUS had spoken these things,while they beheld,He was taken up;and a CLOUD received JESUS out of their sight.
10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as JESUS went up, behold,TWO MEN stood by them in white apparel; (Comment: Would the two men had been Gabriel and Michael- Daniel 12:6-13 combined with Genesis 19:1-3and 12-15?By the way,what is the difference between sea & river in the Scriptures?Being the sea=waters=peoples and nations,and multitudes of all tongues,and the waters of the river:Who are them?Are not them exclusively the elected people of GOD redeemed by JESUS- John 7:38-, or even His Church,His body?)
11The two men said:Ye men of Galilee,why stand ye gazing up into heaven?this same JESUS,which is taken up from you into heaven, shall SO COME IN LIKE MANNER(in the same place,and the same CLOUD- Matthew 24:30)as ye have seen JESUS go into heaven.
1Thes.4:16-18
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,with the voice of the archangel,and with the trump of GOD:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud,to meet the Lord in the air(in the ineffable, indescribable,unspeakable environment of the 3rd heaven)and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Matt. 25:10 ->And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came;and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage:and the door was shut.
The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD, GOD Himself,self-executing.Great mystery-> Matthew 11:27
I note that you have given those words different meanings. So in my understanding, I don't believe that 'Trinity' speaks of three individuals or three gods, but the One God Who expresses Himself in the ways we read of in the Bible: and that is by His Spirit & by His Word. And both are fully within the Godhead revealing God to us in His Fullness.
The Spirit & the Word do not 'operate' independently, using their own Will or purposes to accomplish their tasks. All that the Word has accomplished, whether at the first by revelation to the prophets ( Hebrews 1:1), and now made flesh ( John 1:1,14) to be called the Son of God ( Hebrews 1:2), is what I understand from the Scriptures.
Likewise, the Spirit of God was sent out to infill people to understand & proclaim God's Word and now to baptize repentant sinners who have turned to God through faith in Jesus Christ. That the Word & the Spirit have been sent out by the Father, doesn't mean that God is now deficient in any way, remaining helpless, but all that the Father speaks & accomplishes is done by Himself alone by His Word & Spirit. I hope that I have given you a clear understanding of my position on this doctrine.
Thank you
The Spirit makes an unbroken narrative thread from the beginning till eternity. In Ex.15:27 the Spirit gives us 12 wells at Elim."where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten palm trees: and they encamped there by the waters." The number 12 foreshadows Christ exhorting,"In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink." ( John 7:37). What Moses qualifies as 'my speech' refers to him. This is 'my doctrine, the Gospel of Christ. Up and Down and Across the Gospel has the tag 12 and it does not change.
At Elim there were 70 palm trees (7x10) and they signify trees of righteousness. We have 70 elders upon whom God sent the Spirit and they were the Associates of Moses. This Seventy foreshadows the seventy other disciples whom Jesus sent to preach. ( Luke 10:1)
"And theLordsaid unto Moses, Gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Israel, /And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone."(Nu.11:7-8)
Compare the vision of Ezekiel with Re.22:1-2 "And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine."(Ez.47:12)
The living waters beginning from heaven holds both heaven and the earth as one and this pure river of water of life gives us what everlasting to everlasting would mean. (Col.1:17).What does this signify? Up and Down and Across can only be understood in him.