Carleton, just so we're clear, the focal point of this thread is that we are comparing Christ nature and Adam's.
We're not talking about whether Adam was saved or not.
I believe Christ was God. That says enough about his nature.
I believe Adam was a living soul. Huge difference!
With that being said here's Your Quote.
" Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life."
This verse shows that Life is good, and it includes spiritual life as it is made in the likeness of the Spirit of God as everything was in the beginning. End quote.
Sorry Carleton but I can't agree with that.
For one, if Adam was created in the likeness of the Spirit of God, then there would be no need for a rebirth to enter the Kingdom of God.
The scripture is clear that the first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45.
I believe Job 33:4 speaks of creation not salvation. God breathed in Adam nostrils, and he became a living soul.
God's creativity is the handiwork of the Spirit - the same Spirit who hovered over the waters at creation ( Genesis 1:2)
Christ was a quickening Spirit, clothed with light and gave us "including Adam" his spirit.
Satan was able to trip up Adam by way of Eve "his bride" because they were Naked.
Satan had power over Christ!
Satan goes after the bride Christ, but Christ is our shepherd, and we have his Spirit in us. We're clothed in Christ righteousness.
I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. Isaiah 61:10.
I need prayer for strength and healing, God alone knowss its so much different things,i want to be free ,feel loved,fully love myself and feel comfortable ,happy and warm.I want to have a deep realtionship with God,but have a fear of adversity and failure,i feel like i'm drownig.
God is just and God had sent Nathan to rebuke David whose sin despised his holy Name so it had to be cleansed forthwith. "Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife" and the key to the civil war breaking out between the father and son may be buried under political causes and Old vs. New and many other reason. It is same as the border and Immigration issues that bedevil American policies. The numbers deportations and political upheavals are merely sideshow that prevent the ungodly from understanding the truth. Then as now.
Ahitophel's advise was sound one. Did not God say earlier through Nathan the same? "Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.:(vv.10-11) Ahitophel was suggesting the same. How come then his idea caused him to hang himself. Ahitophel had left off from following God and his wisdom was corrupted. He had to be numero uno and not God. The word of God had already set off events to pay Absalom, Ahitophel and also David. God reinstated David in his favor but consequences of sin will follow Solomon, Adonijah and the very division of the kingdom itself. "For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people./It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."(He.10:30-31)
Ahitophel must be seen as a warning to those false shepherds who for a pretence serve God but their heart is to be the president's man and wield great prestige and power as a result. God shall judge them.
"For the Lord had appointed to defeat the good counsel of Ahithophel, to the intent that the Lord might bring evil upon Absalom".
Absalom was a young man in a hurry. He wanted to sit on the throne of his father, indifferent to the fact that God had put him there in the first place for him to make a case out of it.He had no say in it.
David was chosen by divine grace. Nathan refers to this in his rebuke, "Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight?"(2 Sa.12:7-14). Nathan was only a mouthpiece so he speaks,"Thus saith the Lord God of Israel," and having said 'And Nathan departed unto his house'.
Ahithophel was of a different mould. He was well aware of the perks that went with being 'king whisperer'. King shall hear only what he in his sagacity would speak. So his motives were different from that of Nathan. We see the same in our times, and men of God who are carefully making their moves in order to be considered as celebrity preachers. Naturally they miss what the word of God shall do. In their end their fall, when it comes, is as spectacular but a sordid one, even as it befell Judas Iscariot.
What was the key to the problem between the father and son? King David lusted after another man's wife, so much so he did it legally as a king could,"thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon." He engineered his death to look like as a casualty of skirmish, and he did it cleverly. So Nathan would say,"For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun." God forgives the penitent David but the word of God has been setting all the traps for Ahitophel who was riding high in the royal circle to switch sides when Absalom's star was on the rise. Disaster on Absalom was also in the cards.
Uriah, an Hittite has to be avenged. Gentile or Jew no matter. God is Just.
Saul's heart was like a dry place as against the fruitful garden, enclosed garden. "A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed"( Song. 4:12). An evil spirit came over him riding the wings of his hatred. It is not from God but heart of whosoever departs from God is open to it. "And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul." We have another passage, "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none./Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished./Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation."(Matt.12:43-45). King Saul became an enemy of God while King David went from strength to strength. Because he well attended to his heart. When we see the present times it is a stark warning what the Spirit is leading the wicked and adulterous generation to. We ought to possess our souls in patience. Jesus said how our understanding buds forth. "And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;/And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how./For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear."(Mark.4:26-28)
Jesus knew the son of perdition among the twelve but as theWord become flesh, he would not judge him. It would be his humanity getting the better of his deity, a sin. So helet Judas the benefit of the word sown in his own heart. He was responsible for producing the tree. Either figs or thistles? "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."(Matt.7:20)
"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation."
The kingdom within, is a spiritual space which is called heart. Not anatomical but the same landscape for God a Spirit to work with. In the wilderness Israel was fed with manna, this angel's food has colour and taste, "And the manna was as coriander seed, and the colour thereof as the colour of bdellium."(Nu.11:7) Of the latter we find mentioned i"And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone." Ge.2:12. The river of God is the river of time and every heart has access to it. God formed all hearts alike, so we shall consider the quality as within our reach.(Ps.33:15) bdellium is called 'pearl' since it is resinous gummy substance and as with amber oozes from certain species of trees. Those who are planted by God shall understand how one grows in knowledge of the holy. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and a heart not well attended to surely is common as is observable. "I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;/And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down." (Pr.24:30-31)You see them all the time busy chasing prosperity or their patriotic spirit hyphenate Christ with some Theudas or Judas and their base. They loudly pledge support for them from the pulpit. It is thus they have neglected their fields for the enemy to sleep in some tares. These slackers are asleep, yet their eyes wide awake.
When we see the former POTUS rant over the crowd size of his political opponent do we not see in the manner King Saul envied young David? "And Saul was very wroth, and the saying displeased him; and he said, They have ascribed unto David ten thousands, and to me they have ascribed but thousands"(1 Sa.18:8)
"And they (the disciples) understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken."
There was certainly a problem between Jesus and his disciples. He knew them but they believed in him yet they did not understood his miracles neither their significance. After the marriage at Cana we have this passage. " But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,/And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man."( John 2:24-25). He knew where he came from and where he was going. As the true Light he walked in the light of his Father,- the Father of lights. So there was no shades or subtle difference in the tints that his earthly ministry presented. "When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone." ( John 6:15) Was it not in the Bible spoken? The angel was not joking, he said,"and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:/And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." ( Luke 1:33-34) Jesus would not fool himself and he had come to destroy the wicked world and save those few that believed as well as understood him. Merely because Satan "shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time" it was a trick. His kingdom was 'forever' and not the kind David had inherited.
The disciples believed in Jesus but their understanding had to come in patience. So Isaiah referring to the sure foundation states,"he that believeth shall not make haste". Jesus also explained and it was to happen in their generation ('wicked and adulterous') "In your patience possess ye your souls." It is in the quiet sanctuary the miracle takes place."And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground."
Unfortunatelly you interpreted and misunderstood the content of my post by which I commented my zeal for the Word of GOD;The Word is GOD,GOD Himself,and GOD is Truth.What I meant in my reply to Momsage, it was to clarify why in my preachings I assert"In JESUS GOD created heavens(plural) instead "heaven"(singular)-Gen.1:1-, and I showed the own GOD is who said and revealed this to Moses,as is written in the Torah that was written by him,a Hebrew Bible,Berechit-Genesis-1:1-2,that's the original source of universal translations of the Bible,the Holy Scriptures,with their eventual imperfections or failings.
You misinterpreted my post to Momsage,and consequently accused me by saying"I have a knack of twisting words" what is not true once I sought the original source-GOD Himself,as a proof of my assertion, and you made a comparison of my zeal for the Word of GOD with a supposed zeal of Satan for the Word of GOD, saying unto me "You have a zeal so has Satan".You shouldn't never say Satan has zealous for the Word of GOD,what you say and wrote is not true,for the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD is Truth,and Satan was a murderer from the beginning,and he NEVER abode in Truth,because there is no Truth in him.When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar,and the father of it- John 8:44KJV.
You said:
"Consider this in good spirit.You have a zeal so has Satan.But humility was never in him." But what do you consider a good spirit? For me a good Spirit and humility is GOD-JESUS, the Spirit of Truth, this explains why "humility was never in Satan" as you say.
You said: "Whether you are right or not, it would have given a shine to your Christian spirit to be gentle and considerate" But we cannot replace the Word of GOD, so let no man beguile you being puffed up by his fleshly mind.Take a look what happened with Peter being gentle- Matthew 16:22-23.
You said:"You told what you have settled as the truth. But is it truth?"
Brother Jesse. Just got to this point in your work here & took note of this Greek word, Nous (of the brain/mind). It's interesting that we, probably unknowingly, use the same Greek word in our language today. An example of this would be: 'Anyone with a bit of nous would have known what to do in that situation'. Obviously, I never knew this was a Greek word that we are using today - now I know - and thanks again. GBU.
Now here's the application of Luke 24:16: we crossed the road to get into our vehicle, but just thought to turn around to again check on this cleric. We could clearly see him on the other side of the road, but the Lord intervened on our behalf & 'held his eyes' in a special way. Luke 24:13-16, tells us that the two actually saw another man begin walking with them towards Emmaus but their eyes were 'held' so they couldn't perceive who he was.
In our case, this cleric, who was standing not more than 30 feet from us, wasn't able to see us at all. We stood there looking at him, but his head was just swinging from side-to-side searching for us, probably wondering how we could just disappear into thin air. We touched ourselves ensuring that we were still flesh & blood & having ascertained that, we then got into our vehicle & drove off, leaving him there confused wondering how we could just disappear. I wonder whether this encounter would have prompted him to enquire further into this mysterious, maybe Divine, Act to eventually secure his soul. So, I just share this to give a present-day proof of how the Spirit of God can 'hold' the eyes, even withhold the wicked acts of men, to fulfil His Will, showing Himself Sovereign in both our lives & also before the eyes & hearts of those without Christ. Every blessing to you dear brother.
Thanks again brother Jesse for these very worthwhile snippets from the original language that our 17th Century brethren were unable to capture in the English of their day. I join with bro S. Spencer, and I'm sure many others, who appreciate your giving us a better understanding of what we are reading, using both the original language & noting the influence of culture that bore upon it.
From your reference to Luke 24:16 & the meaning of 'holden' (krateo?), I was moved to recall a personal example of this wonderful power & provision of the Lord, that we are often unaware of or even goes unnoticed as the Spirit of the Lord works on the behalf of His children.
This happened back in 1990 while in ministry in Pakistan, as a Christian brother (from the Netherlands) & I were sharing the Gospel to Muslims by tract/book distribution & sales in a particular market-place in Karachi. My young Dutch brother was soon cornered by a particularly aggressive young Muslim cleric, who was spewing out his anger against our presence & in spreading these 'Christian lies'. We stood there hoping that he would calm down & we could then continue on with the work (for we still had a number of shops to visit). Unfortunately, he ordered us out of the area, & with the support of the increasing vocal crowd, we slowly began to leave. I kept checking behind me & observed that we were still being followed by this cleric. I tried to stall this progress by diverting to have a cup of tea at a small tea shop, but he was adamant that we keep going away from the area. As we neared our vehicle on the opposite side of the road, I just asked the Lord that somehow he would not take note of the van & its licence plate (which could then be reported to the police & cause our work to stall). Onto Page 2.
Luke 24:39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
It says, "that it is I myself," but literally in the Greek text it is I AM. That's His name. Handle me and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. The Lord was in a special form where He could appear and disappear. He could come though locked doors. He could go anywhere and do anything. And yet He says He is not spirit.
He has flesh and bones, but this would not be His glorified body when he gets to heaven because heaven cannot inherit flesh and blood. He is telling them, look at my hands and my feet. It's the I AM!
Luke 24:45 - Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
The word for understanding is the word NOUS. There are several Greek words that describe the function of the brain and its abilities. And in Greek, NOUS represents the perceptive abilities of the mind, to perceive something, not just know it with knowledge, but to perceive its truth.
At the end of 1 Corinthians Chapter 2, it says those who are saved have the mind of Christ, and the word is NOUS. Under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit, His Spirit ministers the Lord's perceptions to me.
I can know what He perceives and know it to be true in the spirit realm. Not mystically, but as it is in truth. Even here, it tells us that Jesus ministered to them from the scriptures, but they didn't understand it until the Lord opened up their understanding.
We don't realize that it's a privilege to not only be saved, but for the Lord to say you have a heart and a mind and desire for my word, therefore I am going to give you that desire, and I am going to open up your mind, and by my Spirit, I'm going to cause you to perceive my truth from my word. A human being in their natural state cannot do that.
That's all I have for Luke. I will begin posting on John soon, Lord willing!
Luke 24:11 - And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
And their words seemed to them as idle tales. It is a medical term for the description of somebody who is delirious from a fever. You are delirious, idle tales, and they believed them not.
Now that is kind of an unfortunate translation because it doesn't say in the Greek text that they did not believe them. It just says that they were without persuasion. They wouldn't be persuaded.
Luke 24:12 - Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
So, Peter ran to the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves. And in the Greek text it indicates, along with some other phrases from John's gospel, that the grave clothes were still wrapped. They were still in the same shape of the body but there was no body in it.
Luke 24:13 - And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
Threescore would be 60, and the Greek word is the word STADIA where we get our English word stadium from. Now one STADIA is 606 feet and 9 inches. So that was 60 STADIA away, so it was exactly 6.89 miles. The Bible rounds it off to seven, but about 7 miles away, 7 miles northwest of Jerusalem, was this little village called Emmaus.
Luke 24:16 - But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
The word "holden" is the word for grip. The Lord held their eyes, not physically, but so that they could not recognize Him! They had to be made without capacity to recognize Him because He was recognizable. But it is interesting that He kept them from recognizing Him so that he could have this conversation with them as He is walking.
Luke 23:35 - And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
The rulers derided him, which is the Greek word for "to stick up the nose." They scoffed at Him, a smug mocking at Him, saying He saved others; let Him save himself, if He be Christ, the chosen of God.
That is a fulfillment of Psalm 22:6-7, and Psalm 22:16-17.
Luke 23:41 - And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
The Greek word for "nothing amiss" means He's done nothing out of place. He has done everything perfectly!
Luke 23:43 - And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Many people have discussed where paradise is. First of all, it is a Persian word. That is where the word paradise came from. In the New Testament, not only is it here, but it's also found in 2 Corinthians 12:3, where Paul says that he was caught up in the third heaven into paradise. And again, in Revelation 2:7, where it is the reward for those overcomers, those that overcome the evil.
It is also used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament for the Garden of Eden. It is called PARADISO, paradise, same word! But that doesn't answer the question where is it? Well, right before the term "in paradise" you have your answer. You will be with "me" in paradise.
Wherever Jesus is, it is paradise. Where was Jesus that day or that night or the next day? Wherever Jesus was, he was with Him, and that's paradise.
Luke 22:52 - Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?
The word "staves" in the Greek means clubs.
Luke 23:3 - And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
The phrase "Thou sayest it" is actually an idiom that means, "You are saying correctly!"
Luke 23:27 - And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.
And there followed Him a great company of people, and the word "followed" is what is called an Imperfect Tense in Greek which means they were continuously following, and of women, which also were mourning, that is what bewailed means, and lamenting.
Those also are Imperfect Tenses. This is a group of women that were loyal to, and following Jesus, and believing in Jesus. They were continually following Him. They even followed Him after they took Him down off the cross, as they wanted to see where He was going to be laid, and they were continually morning and continually lamenting, as they were following.
Luke 23:33 - And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
Calvary is the Latin term for the Aramaic Golgotha. Golgotha is the Aramaic, and Calvary is the Latin. The Greek word is CRANION. It is where we get our word cranium from, the skull. That is what all these words mean. Calvary, Golgotha, and CRANION mean the skull. So, all three names are making reference to the same place.
Luke 21:32 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
The word "generation" is the word GENEA which means a race or kind of people. It has no association with years. Jesus is making reference to the Jewish people. This generation (this race of people) shall not pass away until all be fulfilled.
Luke 21:34 - And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
Some people get very upset because there is no surfing or drunkenness. But this is the word surfeiting, which is a Greek word that has to do with indulging yourself so much that you have a hangover the next day. Indulging, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, again the word cares is the word that I introduced to you a couple times before. It is the word MERIMNA which has to do with the occupation of the attention of the mind. It is when people in their mind, they are so fixed on the things of this earthly life, and so that day come upon you unexpectedly.
Luke 22:31 - And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
The word desired is an Aorist Participle with an adverb that means "has now desired," and it means that Satan has asked one time. He has gotten permission. If this were translated correctly into English it would say, Satan has desired to have you and has been given permission.
Luke 22:44 - And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
Medical experts have attempted to give us a detailed account of this, how blood can mix with sweat. The Greek text says that His sweat was so thick that it was as thick as blood. It doesn't say anything about blood, but "as it were" great drops of blood. It doesn't say it was blood falling to the ground. The agony was so great!
Luke 21:15 - For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
For I will give you a mouth, (meaning I'll give you the words), and the wisdom, that's the knowledge and understanding, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay (that is, contradict nor resist). That's quite a promise!
I've heard of some Bible schools that actually promote this verse for people in the ministry. They say that you don't need to study the Bible. The Holy Spirit will tell you what to say when you have to get up and preach. That is not the context by which Jesus is speaking.
Paul even said study to show yourself approved of God, a workman that's not ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Luke 21:18 - But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
Basically, it is a Hebraism. It is a Hebraism that basically says they might be able to kill the body but cannot kill the soul. This is God's protection and provision over you. There will not be anything done to you that's done outside of the will of God. It will be all because of the will of God.
Luke 21:19 - In your patience possess ye your souls.
In Matthew 24:13, Matthew said that "he who endures to the end will be saved." They are both saying the same thing. But I like this as an explanation. In your patience you possess your soul. The word for patience is HUPOMENO which means to remain under.
Patience in the King James has to do with remaining under circumstances. Long suffering has to do with patience towards people because long suffering means to be slow in human reaction to other people. But HUPOMENO means to remain under your circumstances.
Okay I need to clarify the point that indeed the unregenerate will along with worshipping the beast also have terror and fear and as scripture states the Beast will force men to take the mark. That forcing means execution for those not worshipping the Beast and taking it; but at first it just means there is no means to obtain food and other needed things without the mark hence it is forcing that as a means of economic transactions. Just how long it will be before men are killed after that could be up for debate.
Those who know Christ therefore are not the cowards mentioned in Revelation 22. We are strong and courageous ONLY because we are redeemed; else how can anyone bear to think of God's judgments and the pains of hell? Scripture states in Isaiah that those who can dwell in the everlasting fire are the redeemed; in other words those who the second death won't touch.
When I lived in another city I warned my Pastor at the time that we need to very seriously take the prophets literally as to how terrible the end times will be. It seemed he was either focusing on the fulfillments in the past or somehow thinking it surely couldn't be as bad as it seems in the future judgments. This attitude along with the lax concepts on hell; men's depravity and other important subjects seems to be commonplace today along with many in the replacement theology camp.
It is so easy at least for me to be numb seeing how horrible this world is; as I brought up recently with just the one fact of over 70 MILLION abortions worldwide a year. God has in a few specific cases clearly rendered judgment upon particularly wicked men. But judgment day is clearly soon; and the evil fruit getting to full maturity. It is pretty clear that if we think any other way we don't understand the God we claim to believe. ( Proverbs 14:34).
I pray we all focus on the Great Commission and warn others to flee from the wrath to come rather than get too sidetracked.
We can only imagine what had to be going through the minds of the disciples. Such a strong bond was built, and then Jesus tells them that in a little while He would be leaving them. But then we have the provision of the comforter in John 14:25-31. At the time Jesus was telling them these things, He was dwelling with them on the outside in the person of Christ. He is on the outside of them, but after He goes to the Father, He's going to come and dwell on the inside of them. Just as He told them, I am not going to leave you as an orphan. His Spirit that He gives us will forever be with us.
I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the studies I have been working on. I am finished with Luke and should be posting the rest tonight, and then on to John's gospel.
James 1:14 states how each man is drawn away from God by their own lusts and desires. In light of the dream I mentioned the other night which I surely expect many think I am going off the deep end I have had time to consider it and realize that part of it probably stemmed from my prayer that the Lord could remove me or take me away from my current living situation in the Rapture. This led to the nightmare where I indeed did follow something and managed to get outside when before I left my own front yard things were taken from me and I realized that I was under the total control of the Beast system; although not having taken the mark.
Fear of death is something which we need to overcome; not by our own stength but by the Spirit. The opposite; of course is any delusion we have of our own freedoms which after the Rapture will be taken over by the Beast system. Those who are unredeemed will be basically like moths in the dark attracted to the one light bulb present in a room. This is what makes our current situation so frightening that somehow once God's judgments begin the enticement of the world and it's riches and allure will still be sufficient to drown men in perdition. Long after the food supply is cut to starvation levels; and the other seal judgments have transpired the deception of Satan will be so strong that men will willingly serve and worship him. This business of men being forced to take the mark simply doesn't hold water because those who ARE in the Book of Life cannot do such a thing.
Thus; for now we as Christians are targets for Satan's schemes to render us paralyzed and make us think we are also going to be caught up in the net that the rest of the world is going to suffer through. ( Luke 21:35). Let us realize that God as with Paul can use Satan to buffet us; in particular when we have a weakness in our armor due to sin; but as in this case; not always.
The war is won; the battles are fierce but we dare not rely on our own power.
Please bring employment to Victor's brother George very soon. Please let it be a very good job that is both enjoyable and pays well and will take him into retirement. In Jesus name I pray.
Frankly I understand that Jewish days start at Sunset, which is why me and my Family try not to work on Friday nights. I am thankful for your Information, and It gives me something to look into.
It is none of my business to interfere in this. You write, "I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?" I experienced once how you have a knack of twisting words to make yourself the injured party. It was why I refused to answer your comments knowing what you are capable of. Consider this in good spirit. You have a zeal so has Satan. But humility was never in him. Whether you are right or not, it would have given a shine to your Christian spirit to be gentle and considerate. You told what you have settled as the truth. But is it truth?
I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?
In fact, the correct translation of Genesis 1:1 is not heaven(singular),but heavens(plural), according was said and revealed by own GOD to Moses. So for your own good and also of all readers here, and elsewhere, what matters and prevails is what GOD said to Moses, that is the original and true source. What did GOD reveal about heaven/heavens around 2500 years after Adam or 1500 years BC, and Moses wrote, it is as follows:
Genesis - Chapter 1-2 - torah
Verse 1-In the beginning of GOD's creation of the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2-Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of GOD was hovering over the face of the water.
By the way, heaven is a plant, understand? planted by GOD: Isaiah 51:16 combined with Ephesians 1:3-8, among many other biblical references.
16 -> And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
You called me rude, no poblem, it is the consequence of my zealous for the Word of GOD, the Truth. What does the Word of GOD say? Proverbs 27:6->Faithful are the wounds of a friend(or by who loves); but the kisses(something like panegyrize) of an enemy(of who annoy) are deceitful.
2Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Please pray for my brother George. He has been out of work for over a year and a half and is worried about finding a job. He is a programmer and the technology sector has been hit hard by the recession. He is also worried about finding work because of his age (he's 59). Please pray for him to find a job. Thank you.
Thanks for your patients.
Part 1.
Carleton, just so we're clear, the focal point of this thread is that we are comparing Christ nature and Adam's.
We're not talking about whether Adam was saved or not.
I believe Christ was God. That says enough about his nature.
I believe Adam was a living soul. Huge difference!
With that being said here's Your Quote.
" Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life."
This verse shows that Life is good, and it includes spiritual life as it is made in the likeness of the Spirit of God as everything was in the beginning. End quote.
Sorry Carleton but I can't agree with that.
For one, if Adam was created in the likeness of the Spirit of God, then there would be no need for a rebirth to enter the Kingdom of God.
The scripture is clear that the first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45.
I believe Job 33:4 speaks of creation not salvation. God breathed in Adam nostrils, and he became a living soul.
God's creativity is the handiwork of the Spirit - the same Spirit who hovered over the waters at creation ( Genesis 1:2)
Christ was a quickening Spirit, clothed with light and gave us "including Adam" his spirit.
Satan was able to trip up Adam by way of Eve "his bride" because they were Naked.
Satan had power over Christ!
Satan goes after the bride Christ, but Christ is our shepherd, and we have his Spirit in us. We're clothed in Christ righteousness.
I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. Isaiah 61:10.
See part 2.
God is just and God had sent Nathan to rebuke David whose sin despised his holy Name so it had to be cleansed forthwith. "Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife" and the key to the civil war breaking out between the father and son may be buried under political causes and Old vs. New and many other reason. It is same as the border and Immigration issues that bedevil American policies. The numbers deportations and political upheavals are merely sideshow that prevent the ungodly from understanding the truth. Then as now.
Ahitophel's advise was sound one. Did not God say earlier through Nathan the same? "Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.:(vv.10-11) Ahitophel was suggesting the same. How come then his idea caused him to hang himself. Ahitophel had left off from following God and his wisdom was corrupted. He had to be numero uno and not God. The word of God had already set off events to pay Absalom, Ahitophel and also David. God reinstated David in his favor but consequences of sin will follow Solomon, Adonijah and the very division of the kingdom itself. "For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people./It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."(He.10:30-31)
Ahitophel must be seen as a warning to those false shepherds who for a pretence serve God but their heart is to be the president's man and wield great prestige and power as a result. God shall judge them.
"For the Lord had appointed to defeat the good counsel of Ahithophel, to the intent that the Lord might bring evil upon Absalom".
Absalom was a young man in a hurry. He wanted to sit on the throne of his father, indifferent to the fact that God had put him there in the first place for him to make a case out of it.He had no say in it.
David was chosen by divine grace. Nathan refers to this in his rebuke, "Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight?"(2 Sa.12:7-14). Nathan was only a mouthpiece so he speaks,"Thus saith the Lord God of Israel," and having said 'And Nathan departed unto his house'.
Ahithophel was of a different mould. He was well aware of the perks that went with being 'king whisperer'. King shall hear only what he in his sagacity would speak. So his motives were different from that of Nathan. We see the same in our times, and men of God who are carefully making their moves in order to be considered as celebrity preachers. Naturally they miss what the word of God shall do. In their end their fall, when it comes, is as spectacular but a sordid one, even as it befell Judas Iscariot.
What was the key to the problem between the father and son? King David lusted after another man's wife, so much so he did it legally as a king could,"thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon." He engineered his death to look like as a casualty of skirmish, and he did it cleverly. So Nathan would say,"For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun." God forgives the penitent David but the word of God has been setting all the traps for Ahitophel who was riding high in the royal circle to switch sides when Absalom's star was on the rise. Disaster on Absalom was also in the cards.
Uriah, an Hittite has to be avenged. Gentile or Jew no matter. God is Just.
Saul's heart was like a dry place as against the fruitful garden, enclosed garden. "A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed"( Song. 4:12). An evil spirit came over him riding the wings of his hatred. It is not from God but heart of whosoever departs from God is open to it. "And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul." We have another passage, "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none./Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished./Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation."(Matt.12:43-45). King Saul became an enemy of God while King David went from strength to strength. Because he well attended to his heart. When we see the present times it is a stark warning what the Spirit is leading the wicked and adulterous generation to. We ought to possess our souls in patience. Jesus said how our understanding buds forth. "And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;/And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how./For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear."(Mark.4:26-28)
Jesus knew the son of perdition among the twelve but as theWord become flesh, he would not judge him. It would be his humanity getting the better of his deity, a sin. So helet Judas the benefit of the word sown in his own heart. He was responsible for producing the tree. Either figs or thistles? "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."(Matt.7:20)
"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation."
The kingdom within, is a spiritual space which is called heart. Not anatomical but the same landscape for God a Spirit to work with. In the wilderness Israel was fed with manna, this angel's food has colour and taste, "And the manna was as coriander seed, and the colour thereof as the colour of bdellium."(Nu.11:7) Of the latter we find mentioned i"And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone." Ge.2:12. The river of God is the river of time and every heart has access to it. God formed all hearts alike, so we shall consider the quality as within our reach.(Ps.33:15) bdellium is called 'pearl' since it is resinous gummy substance and as with amber oozes from certain species of trees. Those who are planted by God shall understand how one grows in knowledge of the holy. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and a heart not well attended to surely is common as is observable. "I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;/And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down." (Pr.24:30-31)You see them all the time busy chasing prosperity or their patriotic spirit hyphenate Christ with some Theudas or Judas and their base. They loudly pledge support for them from the pulpit. It is thus they have neglected their fields for the enemy to sleep in some tares. These slackers are asleep, yet their eyes wide awake.
When we see the former POTUS rant over the crowd size of his political opponent do we not see in the manner King Saul envied young David? "And Saul was very wroth, and the saying displeased him; and he said, They have ascribed unto David ten thousands, and to me they have ascribed but thousands"(1 Sa.18:8)
"And they (the disciples) understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken."
There was certainly a problem between Jesus and his disciples. He knew them but they believed in him yet they did not understood his miracles neither their significance. After the marriage at Cana we have this passage. " But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,/And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man."( John 2:24-25). He knew where he came from and where he was going. As the true Light he walked in the light of his Father,- the Father of lights. So there was no shades or subtle difference in the tints that his earthly ministry presented. "When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone." ( John 6:15) Was it not in the Bible spoken? The angel was not joking, he said,"and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:/And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." ( Luke 1:33-34) Jesus would not fool himself and he had come to destroy the wicked world and save those few that believed as well as understood him. Merely because Satan "shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time" it was a trick. His kingdom was 'forever' and not the kind David had inherited.
The disciples believed in Jesus but their understanding had to come in patience. So Isaiah referring to the sure foundation states,"he that believeth shall not make haste". Jesus also explained and it was to happen in their generation ('wicked and adulterous') "In your patience possess ye your souls." It is in the quiet sanctuary the miracle takes place."And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground."
Silence is golden.
You misinterpreted my post to Momsage,and consequently accused me by saying"I have a knack of twisting words" what is not true once I sought the original source-GOD Himself,as a proof of my assertion, and you made a comparison of my zeal for the Word of GOD with a supposed zeal of Satan for the Word of GOD, saying unto me "You have a zeal so has Satan".You shouldn't never say Satan has zealous for the Word of GOD,what you say and wrote is not true,for the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD is Truth,and Satan was a murderer from the beginning,and he NEVER abode in Truth,because there is no Truth in him.When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar,and the father of it- John 8:44KJV.
You said:
"Consider this in good spirit.You have a zeal so has Satan.But humility was never in him." But what do you consider a good spirit? For me a good Spirit and humility is GOD-JESUS, the Spirit of Truth, this explains why "humility was never in Satan" as you say.
You said: "Whether you are right or not, it would have given a shine to your Christian spirit to be gentle and considerate" But we cannot replace the Word of GOD, so let no man beguile you being puffed up by his fleshly mind.Take a look what happened with Peter being gentle- Matthew 16:22-23.
You said:"You told what you have settled as the truth. But is it truth?"
I showed what GOD said, GOD is Truth.
Now here's the application of Luke 24:16: we crossed the road to get into our vehicle, but just thought to turn around to again check on this cleric. We could clearly see him on the other side of the road, but the Lord intervened on our behalf & 'held his eyes' in a special way. Luke 24:13-16, tells us that the two actually saw another man begin walking with them towards Emmaus but their eyes were 'held' so they couldn't perceive who he was.
In our case, this cleric, who was standing not more than 30 feet from us, wasn't able to see us at all. We stood there looking at him, but his head was just swinging from side-to-side searching for us, probably wondering how we could just disappear into thin air. We touched ourselves ensuring that we were still flesh & blood & having ascertained that, we then got into our vehicle & drove off, leaving him there confused wondering how we could just disappear. I wonder whether this encounter would have prompted him to enquire further into this mysterious, maybe Divine, Act to eventually secure his soul. So, I just share this to give a present-day proof of how the Spirit of God can 'hold' the eyes, even withhold the wicked acts of men, to fulfil His Will, showing Himself Sovereign in both our lives & also before the eyes & hearts of those without Christ. Every blessing to you dear brother.
Thanks again brother Jesse for these very worthwhile snippets from the original language that our 17th Century brethren were unable to capture in the English of their day. I join with bro S. Spencer, and I'm sure many others, who appreciate your giving us a better understanding of what we are reading, using both the original language & noting the influence of culture that bore upon it.
From your reference to Luke 24:16 & the meaning of 'holden' (krateo?), I was moved to recall a personal example of this wonderful power & provision of the Lord, that we are often unaware of or even goes unnoticed as the Spirit of the Lord works on the behalf of His children.
This happened back in 1990 while in ministry in Pakistan, as a Christian brother (from the Netherlands) & I were sharing the Gospel to Muslims by tract/book distribution & sales in a particular market-place in Karachi. My young Dutch brother was soon cornered by a particularly aggressive young Muslim cleric, who was spewing out his anger against our presence & in spreading these 'Christian lies'. We stood there hoping that he would calm down & we could then continue on with the work (for we still had a number of shops to visit). Unfortunately, he ordered us out of the area, & with the support of the increasing vocal crowd, we slowly began to leave. I kept checking behind me & observed that we were still being followed by this cleric. I tried to stall this progress by diverting to have a cup of tea at a small tea shop, but he was adamant that we keep going away from the area. As we neared our vehicle on the opposite side of the road, I just asked the Lord that somehow he would not take note of the van & its licence plate (which could then be reported to the police & cause our work to stall). Onto Page 2.
Luke 24:39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
It says, "that it is I myself," but literally in the Greek text it is I AM. That's His name. Handle me and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. The Lord was in a special form where He could appear and disappear. He could come though locked doors. He could go anywhere and do anything. And yet He says He is not spirit.
He has flesh and bones, but this would not be His glorified body when he gets to heaven because heaven cannot inherit flesh and blood. He is telling them, look at my hands and my feet. It's the I AM!
Luke 24:45 - Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
The word for understanding is the word NOUS. There are several Greek words that describe the function of the brain and its abilities. And in Greek, NOUS represents the perceptive abilities of the mind, to perceive something, not just know it with knowledge, but to perceive its truth.
At the end of 1 Corinthians Chapter 2, it says those who are saved have the mind of Christ, and the word is NOUS. Under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit, His Spirit ministers the Lord's perceptions to me.
I can know what He perceives and know it to be true in the spirit realm. Not mystically, but as it is in truth. Even here, it tells us that Jesus ministered to them from the scriptures, but they didn't understand it until the Lord opened up their understanding.
We don't realize that it's a privilege to not only be saved, but for the Lord to say you have a heart and a mind and desire for my word, therefore I am going to give you that desire, and I am going to open up your mind, and by my Spirit, I'm going to cause you to perceive my truth from my word. A human being in their natural state cannot do that.
That's all I have for Luke. I will begin posting on John soon, Lord willing!
Luke 24:11 - And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
And their words seemed to them as idle tales. It is a medical term for the description of somebody who is delirious from a fever. You are delirious, idle tales, and they believed them not.
Now that is kind of an unfortunate translation because it doesn't say in the Greek text that they did not believe them. It just says that they were without persuasion. They wouldn't be persuaded.
Luke 24:12 - Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
So, Peter ran to the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves. And in the Greek text it indicates, along with some other phrases from John's gospel, that the grave clothes were still wrapped. They were still in the same shape of the body but there was no body in it.
Luke 24:13 - And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
Threescore would be 60, and the Greek word is the word STADIA where we get our English word stadium from. Now one STADIA is 606 feet and 9 inches. So that was 60 STADIA away, so it was exactly 6.89 miles. The Bible rounds it off to seven, but about 7 miles away, 7 miles northwest of Jerusalem, was this little village called Emmaus.
Luke 24:16 - But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
The word "holden" is the word for grip. The Lord held their eyes, not physically, but so that they could not recognize Him! They had to be made without capacity to recognize Him because He was recognizable. But it is interesting that He kept them from recognizing Him so that he could have this conversation with them as He is walking.
Luke 23:35 - And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
The rulers derided him, which is the Greek word for "to stick up the nose." They scoffed at Him, a smug mocking at Him, saying He saved others; let Him save himself, if He be Christ, the chosen of God.
That is a fulfillment of Psalm 22:6-7, and Psalm 22:16-17.
Luke 23:41 - And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
The Greek word for "nothing amiss" means He's done nothing out of place. He has done everything perfectly!
Luke 23:43 - And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Many people have discussed where paradise is. First of all, it is a Persian word. That is where the word paradise came from. In the New Testament, not only is it here, but it's also found in 2 Corinthians 12:3, where Paul says that he was caught up in the third heaven into paradise. And again, in Revelation 2:7, where it is the reward for those overcomers, those that overcome the evil.
It is also used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament for the Garden of Eden. It is called PARADISO, paradise, same word! But that doesn't answer the question where is it? Well, right before the term "in paradise" you have your answer. You will be with "me" in paradise.
Wherever Jesus is, it is paradise. Where was Jesus that day or that night or the next day? Wherever Jesus was, he was with Him, and that's paradise.
Luke 22:52 - Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?
The word "staves" in the Greek means clubs.
Luke 23:3 - And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
The phrase "Thou sayest it" is actually an idiom that means, "You are saying correctly!"
Luke 23:27 - And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.
And there followed Him a great company of people, and the word "followed" is what is called an Imperfect Tense in Greek which means they were continuously following, and of women, which also were mourning, that is what bewailed means, and lamenting.
Those also are Imperfect Tenses. This is a group of women that were loyal to, and following Jesus, and believing in Jesus. They were continually following Him. They even followed Him after they took Him down off the cross, as they wanted to see where He was going to be laid, and they were continually morning and continually lamenting, as they were following.
Luke 23:33 - And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
Calvary is the Latin term for the Aramaic Golgotha. Golgotha is the Aramaic, and Calvary is the Latin. The Greek word is CRANION. It is where we get our word cranium from, the skull. That is what all these words mean. Calvary, Golgotha, and CRANION mean the skull. So, all three names are making reference to the same place.
Luke 21:32 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
The word "generation" is the word GENEA which means a race or kind of people. It has no association with years. Jesus is making reference to the Jewish people. This generation (this race of people) shall not pass away until all be fulfilled.
Luke 21:34 - And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
Some people get very upset because there is no surfing or drunkenness. But this is the word surfeiting, which is a Greek word that has to do with indulging yourself so much that you have a hangover the next day. Indulging, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, again the word cares is the word that I introduced to you a couple times before. It is the word MERIMNA which has to do with the occupation of the attention of the mind. It is when people in their mind, they are so fixed on the things of this earthly life, and so that day come upon you unexpectedly.
Luke 22:31 - And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
The word desired is an Aorist Participle with an adverb that means "has now desired," and it means that Satan has asked one time. He has gotten permission. If this were translated correctly into English it would say, Satan has desired to have you and has been given permission.
Luke 22:44 - And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
Medical experts have attempted to give us a detailed account of this, how blood can mix with sweat. The Greek text says that His sweat was so thick that it was as thick as blood. It doesn't say anything about blood, but "as it were" great drops of blood. It doesn't say it was blood falling to the ground. The agony was so great!
Luke 21:15 - For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
For I will give you a mouth, (meaning I'll give you the words), and the wisdom, that's the knowledge and understanding, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay (that is, contradict nor resist). That's quite a promise!
I've heard of some Bible schools that actually promote this verse for people in the ministry. They say that you don't need to study the Bible. The Holy Spirit will tell you what to say when you have to get up and preach. That is not the context by which Jesus is speaking.
Paul even said study to show yourself approved of God, a workman that's not ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Luke 21:18 - But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
Basically, it is a Hebraism. It is a Hebraism that basically says they might be able to kill the body but cannot kill the soul. This is God's protection and provision over you. There will not be anything done to you that's done outside of the will of God. It will be all because of the will of God.
Luke 21:19 - In your patience possess ye your souls.
In Matthew 24:13, Matthew said that "he who endures to the end will be saved." They are both saying the same thing. But I like this as an explanation. In your patience you possess your soul. The word for patience is HUPOMENO which means to remain under.
Patience in the King James has to do with remaining under circumstances. Long suffering has to do with patience towards people because long suffering means to be slow in human reaction to other people. But HUPOMENO means to remain under your circumstances.
Okay I need to clarify the point that indeed the unregenerate will along with worshipping the beast also have terror and fear and as scripture states the Beast will force men to take the mark. That forcing means execution for those not worshipping the Beast and taking it; but at first it just means there is no means to obtain food and other needed things without the mark hence it is forcing that as a means of economic transactions. Just how long it will be before men are killed after that could be up for debate.
Those who know Christ therefore are not the cowards mentioned in Revelation 22. We are strong and courageous ONLY because we are redeemed; else how can anyone bear to think of God's judgments and the pains of hell? Scripture states in Isaiah that those who can dwell in the everlasting fire are the redeemed; in other words those who the second death won't touch.
When I lived in another city I warned my Pastor at the time that we need to very seriously take the prophets literally as to how terrible the end times will be. It seemed he was either focusing on the fulfillments in the past or somehow thinking it surely couldn't be as bad as it seems in the future judgments. This attitude along with the lax concepts on hell; men's depravity and other important subjects seems to be commonplace today along with many in the replacement theology camp.
It is so easy at least for me to be numb seeing how horrible this world is; as I brought up recently with just the one fact of over 70 MILLION abortions worldwide a year. God has in a few specific cases clearly rendered judgment upon particularly wicked men. But judgment day is clearly soon; and the evil fruit getting to full maturity. It is pretty clear that if we think any other way we don't understand the God we claim to believe. ( Proverbs 14:34).
I pray we all focus on the Great Commission and warn others to flee from the wrath to come rather than get too sidetracked.
Agape.
We can only imagine what had to be going through the minds of the disciples. Such a strong bond was built, and then Jesus tells them that in a little while He would be leaving them. But then we have the provision of the comforter in John 14:25-31. At the time Jesus was telling them these things, He was dwelling with them on the outside in the person of Christ. He is on the outside of them, but after He goes to the Father, He's going to come and dwell on the inside of them. Just as He told them, I am not going to leave you as an orphan. His Spirit that He gives us will forever be with us.
I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the studies I have been working on. I am finished with Luke and should be posting the rest tonight, and then on to John's gospel.
God Bless you also my brother!
Fear of death is something which we need to overcome; not by our own stength but by the Spirit. The opposite; of course is any delusion we have of our own freedoms which after the Rapture will be taken over by the Beast system. Those who are unredeemed will be basically like moths in the dark attracted to the one light bulb present in a room. This is what makes our current situation so frightening that somehow once God's judgments begin the enticement of the world and it's riches and allure will still be sufficient to drown men in perdition. Long after the food supply is cut to starvation levels; and the other seal judgments have transpired the deception of Satan will be so strong that men will willingly serve and worship him. This business of men being forced to take the mark simply doesn't hold water because those who ARE in the Book of Life cannot do such a thing.
Thus; for now we as Christians are targets for Satan's schemes to render us paralyzed and make us think we are also going to be caught up in the net that the rest of the world is going to suffer through. ( Luke 21:35). Let us realize that God as with Paul can use Satan to buffet us; in particular when we have a weakness in our armor due to sin; but as in this case; not always.
The war is won; the battles are fierce but we dare not rely on our own power.
Please bring employment to Victor's brother George very soon. Please let it be a very good job that is both enjoyable and pays well and will take him into retirement. In Jesus name I pray.
Frankly I understand that Jewish days start at Sunset, which is why me and my Family try not to work on Friday nights. I am thankful for your Information, and It gives me something to look into.
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JimmyJohns629
I will pray for your sister today. Please keep us informed on how she is doing.
It is none of my business to interfere in this. You write, "I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?" I experienced once how you have a knack of twisting words to make yourself the injured party. It was why I refused to answer your comments knowing what you are capable of. Consider this in good spirit. You have a zeal so has Satan. But humility was never in him. Whether you are right or not, it would have given a shine to your Christian spirit to be gentle and considerate. You told what you have settled as the truth. But is it truth?
Thank you for your reply
I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?
In fact, the correct translation of Genesis 1:1 is not heaven(singular),but heavens(plural), according was said and revealed by own GOD to Moses. So for your own good and also of all readers here, and elsewhere, what matters and prevails is what GOD said to Moses, that is the original and true source. What did GOD reveal about heaven/heavens around 2500 years after Adam or 1500 years BC, and Moses wrote, it is as follows:
Genesis - Chapter 1-2 - torah
Verse 1-In the beginning of GOD's creation of the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2-Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of GOD was hovering over the face of the water.
By the way, heaven is a plant, understand? planted by GOD: Isaiah 51:16 combined with Ephesians 1:3-8, among many other biblical references.
16 -> And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
You called me rude, no poblem, it is the consequence of my zealous for the Word of GOD, the Truth. What does the Word of GOD say? Proverbs 27:6->Faithful are the wounds of a friend(or by who loves); but the kisses(something like panegyrize) of an enemy(of who annoy) are deceitful.
2Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
GOD BLESS