I know you have discussed this belief quite a lot but not very much with me so I hope you don't mind my asking a quick question. I have asked it before, not necessarily of you, without getting a response.
Below I have listed a definition of predestination and foreordaining just to be sure I understand what you mean by this doctrine.
The dictionary defines predestination as: The divine decree foreordaining all souls to either salvation or damnation. And foreordaining as: To determine or appoint beforehand; predestine.
My question: Please explain how God is not an unfair, respecter of souls if He allows some to be born for damnation to hell with no choice of their own, no free will too be able to love God or not.
Perhaps there are others who believe in this doctrine that might want to make a comment also.
A cockatrice is a venomous snake. Perhaps a viper.
And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the COCKATRICE' den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. Isaiah 11:8-10.
Some may protest that God is not fair or just in doing what Romans 9 says concerning having mercy on whom he will have mercy, while not having mercy on others who will go to destruction. But we should not think we are wiser than God and surpass Him in goodness.
We all must be humbled before the cross of Christ and simply be thankful we have been elected to salvation and changed to be vessels of God's mercy to the praise of God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who works all things for good and this goodness comes to the elect because of God's infinite wisdom in saving sinners-Jews and Gentiles alike-providing in Jesus Christ all that is needed for us to be snatched from the kingdom of darkness and brought into God's kingdom of light.
He does all this for us. We cannot make this transfer by our own might, wisdom, will, reason, social status, or ethnicity. God saves from first to last. He alone is our Saviour and we confess Him as LORD and GOD as Thomas did when Jesus appeared to Him after being resurrected, and we serve Him from hearts of gratitude and praise.
(I encourage reading of this article by John Piper: "The Great Work of the Only Wise God" from which I used many of his thoughts in these postings, though I did not footnote correctly.)
In all that God does, He seeks His own glory, which is right and just to do so because He is the best Being we could ever be in right relationship with. God, seeking to be glorified in His grace and mercy in the saints is what benefits us fully. We receive the riches of God in Christ when we are elected and are recipients of His mercy and grace.
At the end of Romans 11 Paul waxes into adoration and praise to God. Perhaps He stopped in his writing of these inspired words to reread and was overwhelmed as He realized that these words show forth the great measureless wisdom of God in saving sinners and keeping His covenant with Israel.
We find this exquisite doxology in verse 33-36
" Oh, the depths of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments; and His ways past finding out!
For who hath known the mind of the Lord; or who hath been His counsellor?
Or who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things, to whom be the glory forever. Amen."
Romans 16:27
"To God only wise, be through Jesus Christ glory forever and ever. Amen."
It is in Jesus Christ that we come to know the wisdom of God. When we are saved and in Christ, we glory in His grace and mercy, for saving a sinner, like me and all the saints. We have nothing to boast about in ourselves. Only we boast in Jesus Christ alone, who saved us for Himself, a holy people, for the praise of His glorious grace and power. He is our wisdom, power, and redemption. He is our greatest treasure. We would know nothing of God's wisdom in creating humanity as He did as vessels of wrath and in His mercy, causing the elect to become vessels of mercy in Jesus Christ. ( Rom. 9:25-29).
at some later time, after the fullness of the elect Gentiles are saved, the Gentiles will be used to share the gospel with the Jews that they may be saved in the same way as the Gentiles, by God's mercy. No one can pridefully say anything about their election because every saved person is saved by the work of God in Christ and come to God with repentance and faith in humbleness of heart.
Vs. 32 is kind of a clincher,
"For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon them."
Every elect person comes to Jesus as a sinner who was in unbelief until they are regenerated by the same Spirit, whether Jew or Gentile, for it is those of the faith of Abraham who are true Israel. ( Gal. 3:28-29)
God's wisdom in consigning every human over to disobedience from Adam up until the last person to be born before Jesus returns rules out any other means of being reconciled to God except by God's mercy. Not because you are an Israelite or a Gentile. Not because you are smart or powerful or noble. Not because you desire to seek God before being regenerated, because no one can seek God without this work of the Holy Spirit which enables one to seek God's mercy and receive it in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Every elect person is dependent on God's mercy, not anything we do. We will forever boast in God's mercy, which is God's ultimate goal in saving sinners, that the glory of His mercy and grace will be fully expressed and manifested in the lives of the saints.
Romans 15:7-9
"Wherefore, receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers, And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy, as it is written," For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and laud Him, all ye peoples."
This most wonderful truth is by many an almost abstract and vague subject with little thought or biblical teaching behind it . There is also a general idea that as soon as you are BORN again you are automatically in the Bride of Christ H is true eve tree born chill God is" called " to that " high calling " it I not automatic which I hope to show anon .
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We read in the scriptures that Jesus is called the " second Adam" . He is thus likened unto te first . Called the second Adam because thee was no other 'Adam ' between the first and second .
The Lord is also. called the " last Adam" idiating there is no our ' Adam' after Him.
As Eve was therefor created out of the body of the first Adam so the Bridef Christ will come out of the midst of "the church which is His body ".
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The whole point of the hardening of the Israelites until the completed elect number (fullness) of Gentiles shall come to Christ and then Israel will be saved is so that the Jews will not be full of conceit, and neither are the Gentiles to be full of conceit. Jew and Gentile elect alike are to be stripped of their pride due to the wisdom of God in saving Gentiles and Jews, in bringing elect Gentiles into the covenant of Abraham and keeping this covenant with the elect Israelites.
Verse 28-29
"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes (Gentiles), but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance."
God does not fail in keeping His promises or takes back His gifts to the elect. He is faithful and ever-so-wise.
God's Wisdom in the Glory of His Mercy
Vs. 30-31
"For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet now obtained mercy through their (Israel's) unbelief. Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy (in the same way that Gentiles received God's mercy by faith in Jesus)."
Given the way the Jews of Jesus' day separated themselves fastidiously from Gentiles and disregarded them with loathing, if the Jews had believed in Jesus, would they have taken the gospel to the Gentiles or would they have thought that only they are chosen of God. God had to show the Jews that He elects Gentiles as well as Israelites to salvation. By sending Paul and the apostles out to preach the gospel to the Gentile world after the rejection of the Jews, God, in His wisdom, overcame this obstacle of the Jews concerning the Gentiles. Peter was given a clear vision on the rooftop that the Gospel is for the Gentiles also, not just for the Jews who believe in Jesus. this barrier needed to be broken down, and this was done by the wisdom of God bringing Gentiles to faith when the Jews disbelieved and then,
The whole point of the hardening of the Israelites until the completed elect number (fullness) of Gentiles shall come to Christ and then Israel will be saved is so that the Jews will not be full of conceit, and neither are the Gentiles to be full of conceit. Jew and Gentile elect alike are to be stripped of their pride due to the wisdom of God in saving Gentiles and Jews, in bringing elect Gentiles into the covenant of Abraham and keeping this covenant with the elect Israelites.
Verse 28-29
"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes (Gentiles), but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance."
God does not fail in keeping His promises or takes back His gifts to the elect. He is faithful and ever-so-wise.
God's Wisdom in the Glory of His Mercy
Vs. 30-31
"For as ye in times past have not beileved God, yet now obtained mercy through their (Israel's) unbelief. Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy (in the same way that Gentiles received God's mercy by faith in Jesus)."
Given the way the Jews of Jesus' day separated themselves fastidiously from Gentiles and disregarded them with loathing, if the Jews had believed in Jesus, would they have taken the gospel to the Gentiles or would they have thought that only they are chosen of God. God had to show the Jews that He elects Gentiles as well as Israelites to salvation. By sending Paul and the apostles out to preach the gospel to the Gentile world after the rejection of the Jews, God, in His wisdom, overcame this obstacle of the Jews concerning the Gentiles. Peter was given a clear vision on the rooftop that the Gospel is for the Gentiles also, not just for the Jews who believe in Jesus. this barrier needed to be broken down, and this was done by the wisdom of God bringing Gentiles to faith when the Jews disbelieved and then,
In this summary we will find the ultimate goal of God in keeping the covenant is the same as in saving Gentiles. God's wisdom in the way He keeps the covenant with Israel is to strip them of any sense of boasting before God. just as He does in the saving of Gentiles.
Every one, whether Jewish or non-Jewish must be humbled and have no grounds for boasting in themselves before God. As we stand before God (as He is everywhere present, we are always standing before Him) God's goal is to shut our mouths from boasting before Him because He alone deserves all the praise and glory. We must never think too highly of ourselves than we ought. We have been bought by Jesus at immense price. As we read in Revelation again and again about the angels and saints bowing to God the Father, Son (the Lamb) and Holy Spirit in continual praise and worship with little thought to ourselves, we are reminded how unworthy we are of the grace God has given us and how worthy He is to receive all praise and honor, wisdom and strength forever.
God's Wisdom in Destroying Human Pride
Look at Romans 11:25-27.
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in." (vs, 25)
Here Paul is warning the Gentiles not to be proud about being ingrafted into the cultivated olive tree (Israe) by faith, because they can be cut out of the tree just as some unfruitful Israelites were because they lacked faith, while those natural Israelites who turn from unbelief to believe in the gospel and put their faith in Jesus, their Messiah, will be grafted back in.
"And so (in like manner as the Gentiles) all of Israel shall be saved, as it is written, 'There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.' (vs 26-27)
Romans chapters 1-8 speaks to how God savs sinners. Chapters 9-11 speaks of the widsom of God in how He keeps His covenant with Israel
Romans 9:4-7
"Who are the Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises. whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, in Isaac shall thy seed be called."
The issue as this chapter begins is whether or not God has failed to keep His covenant with Israel. Has the word and promise God made to Abraham failed? If the Gentiles are being saved by Israel's Messiah yet, as for the Jews, they have turned away from Jesus and rejected Him and the Way God in His infinite wisdom chose for them to be saved in Christ. If Gentiles are becoming children of Abraham by faith alone ( Gal. 3:7; Rom2 :24-29) and Jews rejecting Jesus are cast into outer darkness ( Mt. 8-11-12), then has the covenant God made with Abraham and reconfirmed over and over again in the OT amidst horrendous disobedience of the Israelites, fallen?
Paul affirms that" NO!", it has not failed. God does not reneg on His promises. God's way of staying faithful to His covenant with Israel while saving the Gentiles is so counterintuitive and so extraordinary that at the end of chapter 11, Paul breaks out in his doxology concerning the unfathomable wisdom of God.
Like the way of saving Gentiles through Christ, God's way keeping and fulfilling the covenant with Israel is infinitely wise, too. The end of chapter 11 sums up God's wisdom in both saving Gentiles and in keeping the covenant with Israel.
In the first para read "The Law of the Spirit determines where to work first and there is no cardinal direction as we know in terms of geography. But The Law recognises Time and Space but the holiness of God.'
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"The Law of the Spirit determines where to work first and there is no cardinal direction as we know in terms of geography. But The Law recognises Time and Space in relation to man ('in the beginning') nothing else besides the holiness of God."
" I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour
In the post under estranged from the womb was the statement, quote,
"We benefit from divine revelation. When we received the good news we fulfilled one part of the Law which called forth a world unseen," unquote. This unseen world relates to heaven. So the covenant between God and Man has under day one spiritual underpinning is set up, and this verse refers to it. "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." (Ge.1:2-5) The Law of the Spirit determines where to work first and there is no cardinal direction as we know in terms of geography. But The Law recognises Time and Space but the holiness of God. This is given a concrete imagery in the slain Lamb " stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." In order to explain this we need our own body for analogy. Gut microbes as parasites thrive within us, for instance impact specific function in host nutrient metabolism and protects from harmful pathogens that to all intent and purpose can be called our fifth organ. In short we live in parallel worlds. God created man on the sixth day, and what does it tell us? "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."(Pr.16:4)
The Holy Spirit does not have to spell out the fall of Lucifer or when the Spirit refers to the covering cherub, when iniquity was found in him. Neither do we know how Prince of Tyrus became manifest as the body of the unclean spirit.The wicked world under the law of sin is a parallel world that we have to resist. As long as the flesh rules us it is there. "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."(Re.6:8; Ez.28:18)
So sorry. I misunderstood what you wrote. Yes, once a soul has accepted Jesus as their Savior they are the ones who hear His voice and follow because they are His. Sinners don't listen to Him. Again, so sorry. Gid Bless :)
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies".
We benefit from divine revelation. When we received the good news we fulfilled one part of the Law which called forth a world unseen. The World made to appear shall be on the eternal will of God, the template of Truth and righteousness. The Law of the Spirit does not accept the law of sin. So we can safely say the wicked are estranged from the womb of Time. So you and you did not simply lurch into this world by some happy coincidence. When we received the truth we accepted the path of righteousness
" And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose./For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son."(Ro.8:28-29)
The Law of the Spirit is to establish the holiness of the Lord. So there is a purpose when the word of God says, "Be ye holy, for I am holy." It is the Law so nowhere in his kingdom the wicked who tells lies may hide, as Jonah tried to hide among the sailors of the ship bound for Tarshish.Can anyone escape from God? The wicked follow the law of sin and they are judged as unfit for the purpose even before they were born. It is what the story of Jacob and Esau teaches.""Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."(Mal.1:3)
" Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:/According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love"
Who is the father of lies? Satan of course. There is no truth in him.( John 8:44)Jesus faulted the Jews who rejected him. They were a wicked lot. ": yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil ."
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."
Revelation 1:8 Context
5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 9I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
WE ARE IN LAST FIVE SECONDS OF THE 12 HOUR. LORD JESUS COME.....
I am going to break for the night. I will get back to this topic tomorrow and discuss how God wisely keeps HIs covenant with Israel, gleaning from John Pipers same article.
We have no grounds to glory in ourselves before God in relation to our salvation. Not in our wisdom, knowledge, reason, wills, intellect, nor ethnicity. All sinners have nothing to bring to God that would gain our salvation. God is credited with the totality of our salvation.
Verses 30-31 speaks to the reason for boasting. We are to boast in Jesus who is for us wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption.
Beware of thinking that there could have been a better way for God to bring salvation to elect sinners. None of us have enough wisdom or knowledge to counsel God. His ways are higher than any creature. Instead, we should bow our heads with humble hearts and admit that God does all things well! The elect of God are to forever boast in God alone through Christ alone. He is our champion! He is our Savior! His love for us is unmatched in that He chose to die for us to redeem sinners who were enemies of God and dead in sin. Oh, the glory of the wise ways of God!
We must always push aside our ego and sense of accomplishment concerning our relationship with God. He has done all that is needed for us to be reconciled to Him. Therefore, we should seek to be truly humbled and broken before God looking only to Him for the salvation which is only in God alone and not in any idea of man or action of man or any other way we could think to have grounds to boast before God. Jesus, the divine Son of God, who became one of us, is the only Person who lived a human life that has any grounds to glory in His own works.
So, let's keep our focus on Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith. Think high thoughts of God, not thinking that He is very like us. He is far exalted above us and worthy of all our praise and worship.
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not manywise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are; THAT NO FLESH SHOULD GLORY IN HIS PRESENCE.
But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption."
Here Paul connects the work of Jesus Christ with the wisdom of God. In this passage God in His wisdom soundly rejects the possibility of salvation being based on the wisdom or intellect or knowledge of sinners. Nor can salvation be found by sinners through signs, as the Jews sought.
Rather, God chose to save sinners through the foolishness of a crucified Messiah. And just at the time this plan was most foolish in the eyes of mankind, Jesus is said to be the wisdom of God. And at the time when Jesus seemed to be the weakest in the eyes of mankind, Jesus is said to be the power of God. God chose to express His infinite wisdom in in the form of human foolishness and weakness.
And why was it wise for God to save sinners in this way? It was the way to achieve His ultimate goal. And what is that goal? Verse 29 identifies this goal as being so that no human can ever boast (glory) in the presence of God.
God's wise choices in the way He saves sinners in the death of Jesus, in how He chose sinners to be saved before the cross and called sinners after the cross were infinitely wise. He planned for sinners to be chosen, purchased, called, and saved in this manner so that sinners are stripped of any sense of self-boasting.
God always knows the greatest goal in any situation and the perfect way to achieve it. Therefore, His way to save sinners is perfect in every way. This way is through the incarnation of God the Son, Jesus, in His perfectly lived human life, in His terrible suffering and death on the cross, and in His glorious and triumphant resurrection from the dead. In this way, sinners are made humble and God is glorified. It is the perfect plan and there can be no other way that is better tha what God in His wisdom decided before creation in the covenant to save sinners. If there was a better way, then God would have done that, but there is no other way to accomplish God's greatest goal in saving sinners that through Jesus Christ and His work.
In this post on GOD IS WISE I will draw from John Piper's article mentioned above: "The Great Work of the Only Wise God"
because it is really an excellent one in addressing God's wisdom in saving sinners and in keeping His covenant with Israel.
The Work of Christ and the Wisdom of God
1 Corinthians 1:18-31
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved, it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where is the wise? where is the scribe" where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom. But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jew a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
"reads, " I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved!!!
Now they follow him!
They follow him BECAUSE they belong to him. "THEY AND ONLY THEY" HEAR HIS VOICE.
Those that are not his does not hear his voice and they don't follow him."
So what happens to those who don't hear his voice and they don't follow Him (through no fault of their own since they don't have free will)? I have asked this question many times of people who believe this and I've never received an answer.
Hello Kuivaala: It's nice too meet you. I believe the people who post on this dissuasion platform are very loving and caring children of God, including me. I do love the Lord deeply.
We, in ourselves are not worthy when it comes to just ourselves, however, the sacrificial blood of Jesus does make us as God's children worthy of God's love and His salvation. In that way you are worthy. indeed, if you are born again and have accepted Jesus as your Savior then feel worthy in His sight.
Acts 5:41 - "And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name."
2 Thessalonian 1:11 - "Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Colossians 1:10 "That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;" I hope these few scriptures help. If you go to a website called Bible Hub, if you don't have it already, you can find more verses. Just put "worthy of God" in the search bar.
I would like to ask you, if you don't mind, what do you mean by "shaking" Hello Kuivaala: It's nice too meet you. I believe the people who post on this dissuasion platform are very loving and caring children of God, including me. I do love the Lord deeply.
We, in ourselves are not worthy when it comes to just ourselves, however, the sacrificial blood of Jesus does make us as God's children worthy of God's love and His salvation. In that way you are worthy. indeed, if you are born again and have accepted Jesus as your Savior then feel worthy in His sight.
Acts 5:41 - "And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer s? God Bless :) Ann
God alone has infinite wisdom. This includes reason, logic, knowledge, and judgment.
He is the only Wise God ( Rom 16:27; Job 12:37; Pr. 3:19; Jude 25)
Rom. 16:25-27 is Paul's doxology to God, summing up this book of Scripture, proclaiming the infinite wisdom of God.
Jude 25 reiterates what Paul says in the above verse: to the only wise God our Saviour be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen
There are many aspects to God's wisdom: Job 12:37 tells us that with God are wisdom and might, to Him belong counsel and understanding. Pr. 3:19 says that God in wisdom founded the earth and in understanding He established the heavens.
John Piper in "The Great Work of the only Wise God" defines wisdom as "knowing what the greatest goal is in any situation and knowing the best way to achieve it. It is different than knowledge, but it assumes knowledge. They overlap. you cannot exercise wisdom without knowledge...On the other hand, you can have a lot of knowledge but not have wisdom."
But God is perfect in knowledge and uses this perfect, infinite knowledge to make will and execute the wisest actions.
In this post I want to focus on two aspects of God's wisdom: 1) in the way He saves sinners and 2) the way He keeps His covenant with Israel.
so, let's look at Rom. 11:33-36
Oh, the depths of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out. For who hath known the mind of the Lord? and who hath been His counsellor? Or who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things: to Him be glory forever. Amen."
This is a phenomenal statement! Unless God reveals it to us, we cannot know His wisdom in what He has done in history. We are dependent upon His revelation to us to know God's wisdom. We do not have the capacity to just know it with our own faculties. cont. to Pt. 2
I know you have discussed this belief quite a lot but not very much with me so I hope you don't mind my asking a quick question. I have asked it before, not necessarily of you, without getting a response.
Below I have listed a definition of predestination and foreordaining just to be sure I understand what you mean by this doctrine.
The dictionary defines predestination as: The divine decree foreordaining all souls to either salvation or damnation. And foreordaining as: To determine or appoint beforehand; predestine.
My question: Please explain how God is not an unfair, respecter of souls if He allows some to be born for damnation to hell with no choice of their own, no free will too be able to love God or not.
Perhaps there are others who believe in this doctrine that might want to make a comment also.
God Bless :)
A cockatrice is a venomous snake. Perhaps a viper.
And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the COCKATRICE' den.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. Isaiah 11:8-10.
Blessings.
Some may protest that God is not fair or just in doing what Romans 9 says concerning having mercy on whom he will have mercy, while not having mercy on others who will go to destruction. But we should not think we are wiser than God and surpass Him in goodness.
We all must be humbled before the cross of Christ and simply be thankful we have been elected to salvation and changed to be vessels of God's mercy to the praise of God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who works all things for good and this goodness comes to the elect because of God's infinite wisdom in saving sinners-Jews and Gentiles alike-providing in Jesus Christ all that is needed for us to be snatched from the kingdom of darkness and brought into God's kingdom of light.
He does all this for us. We cannot make this transfer by our own might, wisdom, will, reason, social status, or ethnicity. God saves from first to last. He alone is our Saviour and we confess Him as LORD and GOD as Thomas did when Jesus appeared to Him after being resurrected, and we serve Him from hearts of gratitude and praise.
(I encourage reading of this article by John Piper: "The Great Work of the Only Wise God" from which I used many of his thoughts in these postings, though I did not footnote correctly.)
Pt. 9
In all that God does, He seeks His own glory, which is right and just to do so because He is the best Being we could ever be in right relationship with. God, seeking to be glorified in His grace and mercy in the saints is what benefits us fully. We receive the riches of God in Christ when we are elected and are recipients of His mercy and grace.
At the end of Romans 11 Paul waxes into adoration and praise to God. Perhaps He stopped in his writing of these inspired words to reread and was overwhelmed as He realized that these words show forth the great measureless wisdom of God in saving sinners and keeping His covenant with Israel.
We find this exquisite doxology in verse 33-36
" Oh, the depths of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments; and His ways past finding out!
For who hath known the mind of the Lord; or who hath been His counsellor?
Or who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things, to whom be the glory forever. Amen."
Romans 16:27
"To God only wise, be through Jesus Christ glory forever and ever. Amen."
It is in Jesus Christ that we come to know the wisdom of God. When we are saved and in Christ, we glory in His grace and mercy, for saving a sinner, like me and all the saints. We have nothing to boast about in ourselves. Only we boast in Jesus Christ alone, who saved us for Himself, a holy people, for the praise of His glorious grace and power. He is our wisdom, power, and redemption. He is our greatest treasure. We would know nothing of God's wisdom in creating humanity as He did as vessels of wrath and in His mercy, causing the elect to become vessels of mercy in Jesus Christ. ( Rom. 9:25-29).
See Pt. 10
Pt. 8
at some later time, after the fullness of the elect Gentiles are saved, the Gentiles will be used to share the gospel with the Jews that they may be saved in the same way as the Gentiles, by God's mercy. No one can pridefully say anything about their election because every saved person is saved by the work of God in Christ and come to God with repentance and faith in humbleness of heart.
Vs. 32 is kind of a clincher,
"For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon them."
Every elect person comes to Jesus as a sinner who was in unbelief until they are regenerated by the same Spirit, whether Jew or Gentile, for it is those of the faith of Abraham who are true Israel. ( Gal. 3:28-29)
God's wisdom in consigning every human over to disobedience from Adam up until the last person to be born before Jesus returns rules out any other means of being reconciled to God except by God's mercy. Not because you are an Israelite or a Gentile. Not because you are smart or powerful or noble. Not because you desire to seek God before being regenerated, because no one can seek God without this work of the Holy Spirit which enables one to seek God's mercy and receive it in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Every elect person is dependent on God's mercy, not anything we do. We will forever boast in God's mercy, which is God's ultimate goal in saving sinners, that the glory of His mercy and grace will be fully expressed and manifested in the lives of the saints.
Romans 15:7-9
"Wherefore, receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers, And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy, as it is written," For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and laud Him, all ye peoples."
See Pt. 9
There is no need of an apology. I do see how that can be misinterpreted.
The way you put it is exactly the way I have it.
God bless you.
This most wonderful truth is by many an almost abstract and vague subject with little thought or biblical teaching behind it . There is also a general idea that as soon as you are BORN again you are automatically in the Bride of Christ H is true eve tree born chill God is" called " to that " high calling " it I not automatic which I hope to show anon .
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We read in the scriptures that Jesus is called the " second Adam" . He is thus likened unto te first . Called the second Adam because thee was no other 'Adam ' between the first and second .
The Lord is also. called the " last Adam" idiating there is no our ' Adam' after Him.
As Eve was therefor created out of the body of the first Adam so the Bridef Christ will come out of the midst of "the church which is His body ".
.to be continue
Pt. 7
The whole point of the hardening of the Israelites until the completed elect number (fullness) of Gentiles shall come to Christ and then Israel will be saved is so that the Jews will not be full of conceit, and neither are the Gentiles to be full of conceit. Jew and Gentile elect alike are to be stripped of their pride due to the wisdom of God in saving Gentiles and Jews, in bringing elect Gentiles into the covenant of Abraham and keeping this covenant with the elect Israelites.
Verse 28-29
"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes (Gentiles), but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance."
God does not fail in keeping His promises or takes back His gifts to the elect. He is faithful and ever-so-wise.
God's Wisdom in the Glory of His Mercy
Vs. 30-31
"For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet now obtained mercy through their (Israel's) unbelief. Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy (in the same way that Gentiles received God's mercy by faith in Jesus)."
Given the way the Jews of Jesus' day separated themselves fastidiously from Gentiles and disregarded them with loathing, if the Jews had believed in Jesus, would they have taken the gospel to the Gentiles or would they have thought that only they are chosen of God. God had to show the Jews that He elects Gentiles as well as Israelites to salvation. By sending Paul and the apostles out to preach the gospel to the Gentile world after the rejection of the Jews, God, in His wisdom, overcame this obstacle of the Jews concerning the Gentiles. Peter was given a clear vision on the rooftop that the Gospel is for the Gentiles also, not just for the Jews who believe in Jesus. this barrier needed to be broken down, and this was done by the wisdom of God bringing Gentiles to faith when the Jews disbelieved and then,
See Pt. 8
Pt. 7
The whole point of the hardening of the Israelites until the completed elect number (fullness) of Gentiles shall come to Christ and then Israel will be saved is so that the Jews will not be full of conceit, and neither are the Gentiles to be full of conceit. Jew and Gentile elect alike are to be stripped of their pride due to the wisdom of God in saving Gentiles and Jews, in bringing elect Gentiles into the covenant of Abraham and keeping this covenant with the elect Israelites.
Verse 28-29
"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes (Gentiles), but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance."
God does not fail in keeping His promises or takes back His gifts to the elect. He is faithful and ever-so-wise.
God's Wisdom in the Glory of His Mercy
Vs. 30-31
"For as ye in times past have not beileved God, yet now obtained mercy through their (Israel's) unbelief. Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy (in the same way that Gentiles received God's mercy by faith in Jesus)."
Given the way the Jews of Jesus' day separated themselves fastidiously from Gentiles and disregarded them with loathing, if the Jews had believed in Jesus, would they have taken the gospel to the Gentiles or would they have thought that only they are chosen of God. God had to show the Jews that He elects Gentiles as well as Israelites to salvation. By sending Paul and the apostles out to preach the gospel to the Gentile world after the rejection of the Jews, God, in His wisdom, overcame this obstacle of the Jews concerning the Gentiles. Peter was given a clear vision on the rooftop that the Gospel is for the Gentiles also, not just for the Jews who believe in Jesus. this barrier needed to be broken down, and this was done by the wisdom of God bringing Gentiles to faith when the Jews disbelieved and then,
See Pt. 8
PT. 6
In this summary we will find the ultimate goal of God in keeping the covenant is the same as in saving Gentiles. God's wisdom in the way He keeps the covenant with Israel is to strip them of any sense of boasting before God. just as He does in the saving of Gentiles.
Every one, whether Jewish or non-Jewish must be humbled and have no grounds for boasting in themselves before God. As we stand before God (as He is everywhere present, we are always standing before Him) God's goal is to shut our mouths from boasting before Him because He alone deserves all the praise and glory. We must never think too highly of ourselves than we ought. We have been bought by Jesus at immense price. As we read in Revelation again and again about the angels and saints bowing to God the Father, Son (the Lamb) and Holy Spirit in continual praise and worship with little thought to ourselves, we are reminded how unworthy we are of the grace God has given us and how worthy He is to receive all praise and honor, wisdom and strength forever.
God's Wisdom in Destroying Human Pride
Look at Romans 11:25-27.
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in." (vs, 25)
Here Paul is warning the Gentiles not to be proud about being ingrafted into the cultivated olive tree (Israe) by faith, because they can be cut out of the tree just as some unfruitful Israelites were because they lacked faith, while those natural Israelites who turn from unbelief to believe in the gospel and put their faith in Jesus, their Messiah, will be grafted back in.
"And so (in like manner as the Gentiles) all of Israel shall be saved, as it is written, 'There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.' (vs 26-27)
see Pt. 7
Pt. 5
God's Wisdom in Keeping Covenant Wtih Israel
Romans chapters 1-8 speaks to how God savs sinners. Chapters 9-11 speaks of the widsom of God in how He keeps His covenant with Israel
Romans 9:4-7
"Who are the Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises. whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, in Isaac shall thy seed be called."
The issue as this chapter begins is whether or not God has failed to keep His covenant with Israel. Has the word and promise God made to Abraham failed? If the Gentiles are being saved by Israel's Messiah yet, as for the Jews, they have turned away from Jesus and rejected Him and the Way God in His infinite wisdom chose for them to be saved in Christ. If Gentiles are becoming children of Abraham by faith alone ( Gal. 3:7; Rom2 :24-29) and Jews rejecting Jesus are cast into outer darkness ( Mt. 8-11-12), then has the covenant God made with Abraham and reconfirmed over and over again in the OT amidst horrendous disobedience of the Israelites, fallen?
Paul affirms that" NO!", it has not failed. God does not reneg on His promises. God's way of staying faithful to His covenant with Israel while saving the Gentiles is so counterintuitive and so extraordinary that at the end of chapter 11, Paul breaks out in his doxology concerning the unfathomable wisdom of God.
Like the way of saving Gentiles through Christ, God's way keeping and fulfilling the covenant with Israel is infinitely wise, too. The end of chapter 11 sums up God's wisdom in both saving Gentiles and in keeping the covenant with Israel.
Continue to Pt. 6
In the first para read "The Law of the Spirit determines where to work first and there is no cardinal direction as we know in terms of geography. But The Law recognises Time and Space but the holiness of God.'
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"The Law of the Spirit determines where to work first and there is no cardinal direction as we know in terms of geography. But The Law recognises Time and Space in relation to man ('in the beginning') nothing else besides the holiness of God."
" I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour
In the post under estranged from the womb was the statement, quote,
"We benefit from divine revelation. When we received the good news we fulfilled one part of the Law which called forth a world unseen," unquote. This unseen world relates to heaven. So the covenant between God and Man has under day one spiritual underpinning is set up, and this verse refers to it. "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." (Ge.1:2-5) The Law of the Spirit determines where to work first and there is no cardinal direction as we know in terms of geography. But The Law recognises Time and Space but the holiness of God. This is given a concrete imagery in the slain Lamb " stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." In order to explain this we need our own body for analogy. Gut microbes as parasites thrive within us, for instance impact specific function in host nutrient metabolism and protects from harmful pathogens that to all intent and purpose can be called our fifth organ. In short we live in parallel worlds. God created man on the sixth day, and what does it tell us? "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."(Pr.16:4)
The Holy Spirit does not have to spell out the fall of Lucifer or when the Spirit refers to the covering cherub, when iniquity was found in him. Neither do we know how Prince of Tyrus became manifest as the body of the unclean spirit.The wicked world under the law of sin is a parallel world that we have to resist. As long as the flesh rules us it is there. "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."(Re.6:8; Ez.28:18)
May we all learn and desire to trust and obey You in everything we are called to do. Matthew 28:18-20
September 7, 2024
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies".
We benefit from divine revelation. When we received the good news we fulfilled one part of the Law which called forth a world unseen. The World made to appear shall be on the eternal will of God, the template of Truth and righteousness. The Law of the Spirit does not accept the law of sin. So we can safely say the wicked are estranged from the womb of Time. So you and you did not simply lurch into this world by some happy coincidence. When we received the truth we accepted the path of righteousness
" And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose./For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son."(Ro.8:28-29)
The Law of the Spirit is to establish the holiness of the Lord. So there is a purpose when the word of God says, "Be ye holy, for I am holy." It is the Law so nowhere in his kingdom the wicked who tells lies may hide, as Jonah tried to hide among the sailors of the ship bound for Tarshish.Can anyone escape from God? The wicked follow the law of sin and they are judged as unfit for the purpose even before they were born. It is what the story of Jacob and Esau teaches.""Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."(Mal.1:3)
" Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:/According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love"
Who is the father of lies? Satan of course. There is no truth in him.( John 8:44)Jesus faulted the Jews who rejected him. They were a wicked lot. ": yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil ."
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."
Revelation 1:8 Context
5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 9I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
WE ARE IN LAST FIVE SECONDS OF THE 12 HOUR. LORD JESUS COME.....
Pt. 4
We have no grounds to glory in ourselves before God in relation to our salvation. Not in our wisdom, knowledge, reason, wills, intellect, nor ethnicity. All sinners have nothing to bring to God that would gain our salvation. God is credited with the totality of our salvation.
Verses 30-31 speaks to the reason for boasting. We are to boast in Jesus who is for us wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption.
Beware of thinking that there could have been a better way for God to bring salvation to elect sinners. None of us have enough wisdom or knowledge to counsel God. His ways are higher than any creature. Instead, we should bow our heads with humble hearts and admit that God does all things well! The elect of God are to forever boast in God alone through Christ alone. He is our champion! He is our Savior! His love for us is unmatched in that He chose to die for us to redeem sinners who were enemies of God and dead in sin. Oh, the glory of the wise ways of God!
We must always push aside our ego and sense of accomplishment concerning our relationship with God. He has done all that is needed for us to be reconciled to Him. Therefore, we should seek to be truly humbled and broken before God looking only to Him for the salvation which is only in God alone and not in any idea of man or action of man or any other way we could think to have grounds to boast before God. Jesus, the divine Son of God, who became one of us, is the only Person who lived a human life that has any grounds to glory in His own works.
So, let's keep our focus on Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith. Think high thoughts of God, not thinking that He is very like us. He is far exalted above us and worthy of all our praise and worship.
Pt. 3
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not manywise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are; THAT NO FLESH SHOULD GLORY IN HIS PRESENCE.
But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption."
Here Paul connects the work of Jesus Christ with the wisdom of God. In this passage God in His wisdom soundly rejects the possibility of salvation being based on the wisdom or intellect or knowledge of sinners. Nor can salvation be found by sinners through signs, as the Jews sought.
Rather, God chose to save sinners through the foolishness of a crucified Messiah. And just at the time this plan was most foolish in the eyes of mankind, Jesus is said to be the wisdom of God. And at the time when Jesus seemed to be the weakest in the eyes of mankind, Jesus is said to be the power of God. God chose to express His infinite wisdom in in the form of human foolishness and weakness.
And why was it wise for God to save sinners in this way? It was the way to achieve His ultimate goal. And what is that goal? Verse 29 identifies this goal as being so that no human can ever boast (glory) in the presence of God.
God's wise choices in the way He saves sinners in the death of Jesus, in how He chose sinners to be saved before the cross and called sinners after the cross were infinitely wise. He planned for sinners to be chosen, purchased, called, and saved in this manner so that sinners are stripped of any sense of self-boasting.
See Pt. 4
I don't know anyone that don't have freewill.
Neither did I ever said they didn't.
I don't quite understand your question, can you elaborate?
Thanks
PT. 2
God always knows the greatest goal in any situation and the perfect way to achieve it. Therefore, His way to save sinners is perfect in every way. This way is through the incarnation of God the Son, Jesus, in His perfectly lived human life, in His terrible suffering and death on the cross, and in His glorious and triumphant resurrection from the dead. In this way, sinners are made humble and God is glorified. It is the perfect plan and there can be no other way that is better tha what God in His wisdom decided before creation in the covenant to save sinners. If there was a better way, then God would have done that, but there is no other way to accomplish God's greatest goal in saving sinners that through Jesus Christ and His work.
In this post on GOD IS WISE I will draw from John Piper's article mentioned above: "The Great Work of the Only Wise God"
because it is really an excellent one in addressing God's wisdom in saving sinners and in keeping His covenant with Israel.
The Work of Christ and the Wisdom of God
1 Corinthians 1:18-31
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved, it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where is the wise? where is the scribe" where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom. But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jew a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Continue to Part 3
Amen Bennymkje.
John 10:9
"reads, " I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved!!!
Now they follow him!
They follow him BECAUSE they belong to him. "THEY AND ONLY THEY" HEAR HIS VOICE.
Those that are not his does not hear his voice and they don't follow him."
So what happens to those who don't hear his voice and they don't follow Him (through no fault of their own since they don't have free will)? I have asked this question many times of people who believe this and I've never received an answer.
God Bless :)
We, in ourselves are not worthy when it comes to just ourselves, however, the sacrificial blood of Jesus does make us as God's children worthy of God's love and His salvation. In that way you are worthy. indeed, if you are born again and have accepted Jesus as your Savior then feel worthy in His sight.
Acts 5:41 - "And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name."
2 Thessalonian 1:11 - "Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Colossians 1:10 "That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;" I hope these few scriptures help. If you go to a website called Bible Hub, if you don't have it already, you can find more verses. Just put "worthy of God" in the search bar.
I would like to ask you, if you don't mind, what do you mean by "shaking" Hello Kuivaala: It's nice too meet you. I believe the people who post on this dissuasion platform are very loving and caring children of God, including me. I do love the Lord deeply.
We, in ourselves are not worthy when it comes to just ourselves, however, the sacrificial blood of Jesus does make us as God's children worthy of God's love and His salvation. In that way you are worthy. indeed, if you are born again and have accepted Jesus as your Savior then feel worthy in His sight.
Acts 5:41 - "And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer s? God Bless :) Ann
God alone has infinite wisdom. This includes reason, logic, knowledge, and judgment.
He is the only Wise God ( Rom 16:27; Job 12:37; Pr. 3:19; Jude 25)
Rom. 16:25-27 is Paul's doxology to God, summing up this book of Scripture, proclaiming the infinite wisdom of God.
Jude 25 reiterates what Paul says in the above verse: to the only wise God our Saviour be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen
There are many aspects to God's wisdom: Job 12:37 tells us that with God are wisdom and might, to Him belong counsel and understanding. Pr. 3:19 says that God in wisdom founded the earth and in understanding He established the heavens.
John Piper in "The Great Work of the only Wise God" defines wisdom as "knowing what the greatest goal is in any situation and knowing the best way to achieve it. It is different than knowledge, but it assumes knowledge. They overlap. you cannot exercise wisdom without knowledge...On the other hand, you can have a lot of knowledge but not have wisdom."
But God is perfect in knowledge and uses this perfect, infinite knowledge to make will and execute the wisest actions.
In this post I want to focus on two aspects of God's wisdom: 1) in the way He saves sinners and 2) the way He keeps His covenant with Israel.
so, let's look at Rom. 11:33-36
Oh, the depths of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out. For who hath known the mind of the Lord? and who hath been His counsellor? Or who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things: to Him be glory forever. Amen."
This is a phenomenal statement! Unless God reveals it to us, we cannot know His wisdom in what He has done in history. We are dependent upon His revelation to us to know God's wisdom. We do not have the capacity to just know it with our own faculties. cont. to Pt. 2